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Post by Pleonast on Feb 23, 2012 15:06:44 GMT -5
BillMc is dead. Nanook was Town, and Drain Bead was Undead. Merestil Haye was a Witchdoctor.
It is now Day Seven. It will last until Tue Feb 28 at the latest.
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Post by Suburban Plankton on Feb 23, 2012 18:00:25 GMT -5
Boy, it's even quieter in here Today than it was last Night...
So, only one kill again. So...in no particular order...
Someone targeted one of the Witches, who was protected The Wolves and Vampire both targeted Bill The Cabal blocked a Night Kill We don't have any more Wolves We don't have a Vampire after all Somebody failed to get in a kill The Town's Secret Power was responsible
Any other possibilities?
From Pleonast's reveals, it is possible that colby could have been the Omega (and last remaining) Wolf, and that his death triggered the 'extra' kill on Night 5. But septimus revealed colby as 'Werewolf', which would imply that the Omega Wolf still remains at large.
So either we have no Vampire after all, or only one kill went through. The remaining players who have not claimed either Witch or Freemason are:
CatInaSuit - claimed Scotsman deon - no claim hirkatbawa - no claim Inner Stickler - claimed Warlock Sister Coyote - claimed Warlock
With no evidence that deon or hirka are participating in this game at all, then our Killer(s) must be among the three others in this group. There also remains the possibility that deon and/or hirka are also non-Town, but I think we can still safely ignore them for the moment.
vote CatInaSuit vote Inner Stickler
Inner Stickler because we had a second Night Kill immediately following his return to the game, suggesting he is the Vampire, and CIAS because I think that one of the three Warlock claims is likely to be true, suggeesting CIAS is the remainaing Wolf.
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Post by special on Feb 23, 2012 18:23:02 GMT -5
CIAS would have to be the Omega, but it is possible
Vote: Inner Stickler
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Post by special on Feb 23, 2012 18:29:36 GMT -5
Could both of the 2 two-kill Nights have been caused by secret powers?
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Post by septimus on Feb 23, 2012 18:31:36 GMT -5
The only way to "add value" to my role as Coroner is to suppress info when appropriate. Is there any possible reason to conceal what I've learned, if anything, about BillMc?
Vote: Inner Stickler [/color] Vote: hirkatbawa [/color] Vote: deon [/color] Vote: Hoopy Frood [/color]
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Post by special on Feb 23, 2012 18:36:05 GMT -5
The only way to "add value" to my role as Coroner is to suppress info when appropriate. Is there any possible reason to conceal what I've learned, if anything, about BillMc? Vote: Inner Stickler [/color] Vote: hirkatbawa [/color] Vote: deon [/color] Vote: Hoopy Frood [/color] [/quote] You have to be the judge of that, but I would think at this point, learning something about the masonry might be important. Like OMG! If they are all lying!
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Post by Suburban Plankton on Feb 23, 2012 18:57:07 GMT -5
The only way to "add value" to my role as Coroner is to suppress info when appropriate. Is there any possible reason to conceal what I've learned, if anything, about BillMc? This strikes me as a very strange question to ask at this point in the game.
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Post by special on Feb 23, 2012 19:05:38 GMT -5
The only way to "add value" to my role as Coroner is to suppress info when appropriate. Is there any possible reason to conceal what I've learned, if anything, about BillMc? This strikes me as a very strange question to ask at this point in the game. says one of the 8 claimed masons.
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Post by septimus on Feb 23, 2012 19:14:36 GMT -5
"BillMc was a Cabalist."
Had BillMc been recruited to become a Cabalist, would Pleo have so informed me? I've sent a PM to Pleo asking this question.
I've assumed (foolishly?) that original Cabalists (rather than recruited Masons) get to pick only one single Day for their Mason disguise. Gnarly confirms a Day 3 Mason shake by Bill. Hoopy claims a Day 4 shake from BillMc, but I think Hoopy has been recruited. Have their been any other Mason reports on Bill?
Inner Stickler has been active continually at SDMB. Is it really likely that, as a Vampire with multiple claimed Townies to choose from, he'd not be doing Night Kills?
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Post by Inner Stickler on Feb 23, 2012 19:31:45 GMT -5
Well, I may as well come clean.
I really AM a warlock, but I also have the townie secret power. Every night I could choose to use it instead of the warlock enchantment on another player and learn their role and all their previous targets and whether their night actions were successful. It also blocks them from using any nonsecret powers. The restriction is that if I use it on a fellow townie, I lose the ability to use it for good. I used it on Night 5 on Drain Bead but then she had to go and die and the witches had also investigated her anyway so that was a great use of my time.
Last night, I investigated Hirka,. He's the town vicar and has targeted no players. And, consequently, I no longer have the secret power.
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Post by special on Feb 23, 2012 19:39:16 GMT -5
Well, I may as well come clean. I really AM a warlock, but I also have the townie secret power. Every night I could choose to use it instead of the warlock enchantment on another player and learn their role and all their previous targets and whether their night actions were successful. It also blocks them from using any nonsecret powers. The restriction is that if I use it on a fellow townie, I lose the ability to use it for good. I used it on Night 5 on Drain Bead but then she had to go and die and the witches had also investigated her anyway so that was a great use of my time. Last night, I investigated Hirka,. He's the town vicar and has targeted no players. And, consequently, I no longer have the secret power. How convienent. Of course, claiming the Town secret power is quite...powerful. I was thinking the power would counteract this influx of Cabalists....
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Post by Idle Thoughts on Feb 23, 2012 19:39:31 GMT -5
We got that SisterCoyote is town...so either she's town or the Omega Wolf, right?
I'm happy with a lynch of her, CIAS, or Inner Stickler.
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Post by Inner Stickler on Feb 23, 2012 19:39:39 GMT -5
Inner Stickler has been active continually at SDMB. Is it really likely that, as a Vampire with multiple claimed Townies to choose from, he'd not be doing Night Kills? If you're insinuating what I think you are, I expect an apology.
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Post by Idle Thoughts on Feb 23, 2012 19:41:00 GMT -5
One of Sis and CIAS must really be town, though since we got Town from both of them.
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Post by special on Feb 23, 2012 19:45:04 GMT -5
Inner Stickler has been active continually at SDMB. Is it really likely that, as a Vampire with multiple claimed Townies to choose from, he'd not be doing Night Kills? If you're insinuating what I think you are, I expect an apology. I think he was insinuating that you aren't the Vampire.
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Post by special on Feb 23, 2012 19:45:20 GMT -5
or maybe not
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Post by septimus on Feb 23, 2012 19:48:58 GMT -5
Maybe I'm gullible, but I'll believe Inner Stickler for now. To replenish my list of Lynchees, I'll add our Scotsman. I'd prefer to Lynch Hoopy or deon, but if we Lynch a truthful Cat, at least he won't die.
Unvote: Inner Stickler [/color] Unvote: hirkatbawa [/color] Vote: CatInaSuit [/color]
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Post by special on Feb 23, 2012 19:52:19 GMT -5
Maybe I'm gullible, but I'll believe Inner Stickler for now. To replenish my list of Lynchees, I'll add our Scotsman. I'd prefer to Lynch Hoopy or deon, but if we Lynch a truthful Cat, at least he won't die. Unvote: Inner Stickler [/color] Unvote: hirkatbawa [/color] Vote: CatInaSuit [/color] [/quote] and you believe in your Cabal reads so much that you don't want to do anything about them?
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Post by septimus on Feb 23, 2012 19:55:49 GMT -5
Inner Stickler has been active continually at SDMB. Is it really likely that, as a Vampire with multiple claimed Townies to choose from, he'd not be doing Night Kills? If you're insinuating what I think you are, I expect an apology. Can you help me parse this? I think you're claiming to have taken no Night action until Night 5. I also think that Vampire is a more important and exciting role than Warlock and, had you been Vampire, you'd have been Killing (and posting Daily as well, if that's a moral necessity). Were these insinuations as expected?
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Post by septimus on Feb 23, 2012 20:08:05 GMT -5
... and you believe in your Cabal reads so much that you don't want to do anything about them? How so? I already have a vote down on Hoopy, though we'd be better off guessing who the Omega Wolf is. BTW, could Omega Wolf be hiding among the Masons? Perhaps Omega Wolf has as secret power the ability to send Mason handshakes?
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Post by special on Feb 23, 2012 20:19:42 GMT -5
If we believe septimus:
Town:
Mr Special Ed - Witch Idle Thoughts - Witch 18. scathach - Killed Night Two - Town - Witch - Zombified Night Four 20. JustBeingGinger - Killed Night One - Zombified Night Three - Town - Freemason 17. septimus - Killed Night Three - Alive Day Five - Coroner 21. Merestil Haye - Killed Night Four - Town - Witchdoctor 06. Nanook - Killed Night Five - Town
Claimed Town: CatInASuit - Scotsman (Investigated Town) Sister Coyote - Warlock (Investigated Town) Inner Stickler - Warlock
Cabal: Hoopy Frood BillMc - Killed Night Six Silver Jan - Lynched Day Four - Cabal (was Town) - Cabalist (was Freemason) gnarlycharlie peekercpa - Lynched Day Six Suburban Plankton Boozahol Squid guiri - Killed Night Three - Cabal (was Town) - Cabalist (was Freemason)
Wolf colby11 - Lynched Day Five - Wolf texcat - Lynched Day Two - Zombified Night Two - Wolf - Alpha Wolf mahaloth - Lynched Day One - Zombified Night One - Wolf - Werewolf Pollux Oil - Lynched Day Three - Wolf - Werewolf
Undead Drain Bead - Killed Night Five - Undead
Unknown hirkatbawa - (claimed Vicar by Inner) deon
Original Masons: JustBeingGinger Hoopy Frood BillMc Silver Jan gnarlycharlie Suburban Plankton Boozahol Squid guiri
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Post by special on Feb 23, 2012 20:27:19 GMT -5
My working hypothesis:
If septimus is honest, All of the Masons are now Cabal. Inner is the Vampire. Hirka and Deon are likely Town, and one of them has the Town secret power. CatInASuit is the Omega Wolf.
I see no reason not to trust him after MHaye's reveal.
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Post by Suburban Plankton on Feb 23, 2012 21:09:24 GMT -5
So the Witches investigated SisC last Night...meaning that they did not protect themselves.
Therefore we have only one killer left (among the active players), or the Cabal blocked someone successfully, or Bill was a really popular target last Night.
Could it be that we have no Vampire (or the Vamp is deon), and that both 'extra' kills were the work of Secret Powers?
Yes, Ed, I know you asked this same question earlier. I guess my response is "hmmm...could be..."
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Post by Sister Coyote on Feb 23, 2012 21:26:09 GMT -5
So the Witches investigated SisC last Night...meaning that they did not protect themselves. Therefore we have only one killer left (among the active players), or the Cabal blocked someone successfully, or Bill was a really popular target last Night. Could it be that we have no Vampire (or the Vamp is deon), and that both 'extra' kills were the work of Secret Powers? Yes, Ed, I know you asked this same question earlier. I guess my response is "hmmm...could be..." The possibility certainly exists. Vote: Inner SticklerVote: Cat in a Suit I'm leaning more toward taking out IS than CIAS, but I think either are viable targets. Or, we lynch into the "mason" pool and see if there are any "true" Masons left.
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Post by Sister Coyote on Feb 23, 2012 21:28:52 GMT -5
... and you believe in your Cabal reads so much that you don't want to do anything about them? How so? I already have a vote down on Hoopy, though we'd be better off guessing who the Omega Wolf is. BTW, could Omega Wolf be hiding among the Masons? Perhaps Omega Wolf has as secret power the ability to send Mason handshakes? Correct me if I'm wrong (and I might well be), but I thought the Omega Wolf's power was about flummoxing any potential Town Detective (and/or the Witches) and that the masons (assuming there ever were any masons, which I suppose there must have been as there was recruitment) wouldn't have gotten back a "true" reading?
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Post by Høøpy Frøød on Feb 24, 2012 0:10:39 GMT -5
Vote: Inner Stickler
I don't believe he's a warlock for a minute. I believe sis is the warlock, and CIAS is the omega.
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Post by CatInASuit on Feb 24, 2012 3:59:37 GMT -5
Ok, let's see what we have and make some sense of it.
1. We have seen all the scum Secret powers in action.
Cabal - recruit Undead - Hide data Wolf - Multiple NK.
There are no other possibilities. The Omega wolf is not going to be fooling freemasons etc. etc.
2. BillMc being a Cabal member. So what. He got recruited on Day 6/Night 6
ALL POWERS RESOLVE SIMULTANEOUSLY
He could quite conceivably handshake as a freemason while being recruited by peekercpa on the Same Day. The other alternative is that we have another Cabal member. In fact I am leaning more towards that option on the ground that just one Cabal is still highly unfair even with a recruit power.
No, the mason ring was quite firm as of the end of Day 6. If boozy comes in, we can confirm gnarlycharlie as being town as of the end of Day 6 as well.
3. Inner Stickler's town secret power claim. Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha...Umm no.
As I said above all powers resolve simultaneously, so you if you had used a secret power on Drain Bead you would have received details for her, even if she had died that Night.
A bit of luck would make the power extraordinarily powerful, and game breaking.
Don't believe it at all.
and even if you did have that power then why didn't you use it on Sister Coyote? If she was scum, you could have confirmed yourself by identifying what she was. If she was town, you could have confirmed yourself by confirming her targets.
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Post by CatInASuit on Feb 24, 2012 4:18:46 GMT -5
Ok state of the game. I believe we have the following remaining scum. 1 Cabal, 1 Undead, 1 Wolf Best guess would be as follows. Cabal - Deon Vampire - Inner Stickler Omega Wolf - Sister Coyote For Note: deon did appear last night, but posted nothing. We will need to kill off the remaning lurkers to be sure, although given that we still have two Witches, the Cabal cannot win. 12 people as follows. Pretty much confirmed town: 7 Idle Thoughts - Witch Special Ed - Witch gnarlycharlie - FM Boozahol Squid - FM Hoopy Frood - FM Suburban Plankton - FM Septimus - Coroner Worst case would be 1 Cabal, 1 Undead, 2 Wolf, 8 Town Day 7 - Lynch Wolf: 8 Town, 1 Wolves, 1 Undead, 1 Cabal Night 7 - two town killed: 6 Town, 1 Wolves, 1 Undead, 1 Cabal Day 8 - Lynch Wolf: 6 Town, 1 Undead, 1 Cabal Night 8 - one town killed: 5 Town, 1 Undead, 2 Cabal (if recruit) If a witch has been killed at this point, we have to kill the Cabal before the undead, which is not a pretty situation. Likely case would be 1 Cabal, 1 Undead, 1 Wolf, 9 Town Day 7 - Lynch Vampire: 9 Town, 1 Wolf, 1 Cabal Night 7 - one town killed: 8 Town, 1 Wolf, 1 Cabal At this point if a Witch has died, then we will need to lynch any cabal before the final wolf, otherwise we try to lynch the wolf. Meh - its all abstract at this point and I doubt anyone will read it. Vote: inner stickler oh and Vote: boozy squid for not claiming last night . . . . Unvote: Boozy Squid
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Post by CatInASuit on Feb 24, 2012 4:25:08 GMT -5
Mason Handshaking Circle of Trust
gnarlycharlie handshakes Suburban Plankton Suburban Plankton handshakes Hoopy Frood Hoopy Frood handshakes Boozahol Squid Boozahol Squid handshakes gnarlycharlie
But I'll bet on them all coming back positively.
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Post by Idle Thoughts on Feb 24, 2012 4:25:45 GMT -5
I'm confused how you'd come up with most of that logic, CIAS. I'm of the same beliefe as Ed...that it's possible/likely that all the masons are Cabal now, so no idea why or how you figure there's just one left.
However, I am content to vote away from that continuing mess and trying to find the Vampire/Omega Wolf.
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