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Post by Pleonast on Mar 1, 2012 15:02:41 GMT -5
Idle Thoughts and Sister Coyote are dead. BillMc was Cabal (recruited from Town). Nanook was a Detective, and Drain Bead was a Necromancer.
Welcome to Day Eight.
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Post by Inner Stickler on Mar 1, 2012 16:06:21 GMT -5
Well, this is interesting. As cabal haven't won, we must still have a vampire, wolf or both. It seems to me that the best course at this juncture is to lynch our way through the masons. We have to eliminate cabal before we risk eliminating the last noncabal/nontown role.
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Post by septimus on Mar 1, 2012 16:11:30 GMT -5
Idle Thoughts was a Witch, and Sister Coyote was an Omega Wolf.
Vote: Hoopy Frood
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Post by Inner Stickler on Mar 1, 2012 16:14:39 GMT -5
We're going for Hoopy again? Ok.
Vote: Hoopy
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Post by Suburban Plankton on Mar 1, 2012 16:24:14 GMT -5
And, Warlock, if the Witches protect toNight, we will protect Idle. (I haven't discussed this with him yet, but I think he'll agree. Besides we can discuss this openly anyway). So, Warlock, then I suggest you enchant me. So what happened here, Ed? Apparently you guys decided not to protect Idle, so you must have investigated someone. What result did you get?
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Post by Inner Stickler on Mar 1, 2012 16:51:11 GMT -5
Confirmed Town 01. Mr Special Ed - Town - Witch 17. septimus - Town - Coroner 15. CatInASuit - Town - Scotsman
Dirty Rotten Cabalists, or Possibly Masons 02. Hoopy Frood - ? - ? 10. gnarlycharlie - ? - ? 16. Suburban Plankton - ? - ? 19. Boozahol Squid - ? - ?
Unloved By All 13. Inner Stickler - Warlock
Absent Unexcused 09. hirkatbawa - is the Vicar, I promise! 25. deon - ? - ?
20. JustBeingGinger - Killed Night One - Town - Freemason 18. scathach - Killed Night Two - Town - Witch 21. Merestil Haye - Killed Night Four - Town - Witchdoctor 06. Nanook - Killed Night Five - Town - Detective 23. Idle Thoughts - killed Night Seven - Town - Witch
22. guiri - Killed Night Three - Cabal (was Town) - Cabalist (was Freemason) 07. Silver Jan - Lynched Day Four - Cabal (was Town) - Cabalist (was Freemason) 11. peekercpa - Lynched Day Six - Cabal (was Town) 03. BillMc - Killed Night Six - Cabal (was Town)
24. mahaloth - Lynched Day One - Wolf - Werewolf 05. texcat - Lynched Day Two - Wolf - Alpha Wolf 12. Pollux Oil - Lynched Day Three - Wolf - Werewolf 04. colby11 - Lynched Day Five - Wolf 14. Sister Coyote - killed Night Seven - Omega Wolf
08. Drain Bead - Killed Night Five - Undead - Necromancer
I am curious as to what the witches did last night as well. With 10 people still alive 5 votes are needed to lynch. If at least one member of the mason group doesn't decide to lynch hoopy, even if all the rest of the active players vote, no lynch will occur. As it appears we do still have 2 active killing roles, I fear that Today will end with no lynch and Tonight another member of town will die giving the mason group control of the vote Tomorrow. They can then direct lynches towards the remaining killing roles and win so whoever is still out there, (I mean you, Vampire!) it's in your best interest to target cabal! Also this would not be a bad time for Hirka to randomly show up again.
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Post by Suburban Plankton on Mar 1, 2012 16:58:16 GMT -5
I am curious as to what the witches did last night as well. With 10 people still alive 5 votes are needed to lynch. If at least one member of the mason group doesn't decide to lynch hoopy, even if all the rest of the active players vote, no lynch will occur. As it appears we do still have 2 active killing roles, I fear that Today will end with no lynch and Tonight another member of town will die giving the mason group control of the vote Tomorrow. They can then direct lynches towards the remaining killing roles and win so whoever is still out there, (I mean you, Vampire!) it's in your best interest to target cabal! Also this would not be a bad time for Hirka to randomly show up again. If either deon or hirka suddenly show up at this point, after 7 Days and Nights of silence, I'm going to raise an eyebrow in the most serious manner I can possibly muster.
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Post by special on Mar 1, 2012 16:59:56 GMT -5
And, Warlock, if the Witches protect toNight, we will protect Idle. (I haven't discussed this with him yet, but I think he'll agree. Besides we can discuss this openly anyway). So, Warlock, then I suggest you enchant me. So what happened here, Ed? Apparently you guys decided not to protect Idle, so you must have investigated someone. What result did you get? My intention was to protect CatInASuit. Idle disagreed. Scathach disagreed. we must agree completely, so I bowed to them. We investigated last Night. We found a Town member. There is no point in delaying the reveal, as I cannot promise I will be alive toMorrow. We investigated Inner. He is Town.
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Post by special on Mar 1, 2012 17:00:17 GMT -5
PS, I always said I loved you Inner, even if I didn't believe you
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Post by special on Mar 1, 2012 17:02:28 GMT -5
Confirmed Town01. Mr Special Ed - Town - Witch 17. septimus - Town - Coroner 15. CatInASuit - Town - Scotsman 13. Inner Stickler - Warlock 09. hirkatbawa - is the Vicar, I promise! Dirty Rotten Cabalists, or Possibly Masons02. Hoopy Frood - ? - ? 10. gnarlycharlie - ? - ? 16. Suburban Plankton - ? - ? 19. Boozahol Squid - ? - ? Absent Unexcused25. deon - ? - ? 20. JustBeingGinger - Killed Night One - Town - Freemason 18. scathach - Killed Night Two - Town - Witch 21. Merestil Haye - Killed Night Four - Town - Witchdoctor 06. Nanook - Killed Night Five - Town - Detective 23. Idle Thoughts - killed Night Seven - Town - Witch22. guiri - Killed Night Three - Cabal (was Town) - Cabalist (was Freemason) 07. Silver Jan - Lynched Day Four - Cabal (was Town) - Cabalist (was Freemason) 11. peekercpa - Lynched Day Six - Cabal (was Town) 03. BillMc - Killed Night Six - Cabal (was Town) 24. mahaloth - Lynched Day One - Wolf - Werewolf 05. texcat - Lynched Day Two - Wolf - Alpha Wolf 12. Pollux Oil - Lynched Day Three - Wolf - Werewolf 04. colby11 - Lynched Day Five - Wolf 14. Sister Coyote - killed Night Seven - Omega Wolf 08. Drain Bead - Killed Night Five - Undead - NecromancerI am curious as to what the witches did last night as well. With 10 people still alive 5 votes are needed to lynch. If at least one member of the mason group doesn't decide to lynch hoopy, even if all the rest of the active players vote, no lynch will occur. As it appears we do still have 2 active killing roles, I fear that Today will end with no lynch and Tonight another member of town will die giving the mason group control of the vote Tomorrow. They can then direct lynches towards the remaining killing roles and win so whoever is still out there, (I mean you, Vampire!) it's in your best interest to target cabal! Also this would not be a bad time for Hirka to randomly show up again. {vote] Hoopy [/b][/color] One of the Masons must be killing. It's possible Sister was the last Wolf. Didn't we once suspect gnarly of being the Vampire?
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Post by special on Mar 1, 2012 17:03:18 GMT -5
crap
Vote: Hoopy
double crap. I meant to edit Inner's post, but I didn't mean to leave it as a quote.
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Post by septimus on Mar 1, 2012 17:03:31 GMT -5
We're going for Hoopy again? Ok. Wish I had a plan. We've got four Cabalists, four active Townies including you, and two absentees. The simplest scenario is that Deon is the Vampire and is Killing while remaining mum. In that case, unless Town cooperates to let Cabal win or vice versa, the Vampire will win after a long boring series of No Lynch days. (All the Vampire need do is alternate kills of Town and Cabal, keeping Hirka alive.) Chances are that I've overlooked something and the situation is quite different. Unfortunately other scenarios are even worse for Town. As I see it, the only real hope is that some of the Masons haven't been recruited yet. But if that's true, why didn't any of them try to help Town yesterDay? deon's last login is 22 Feb. But I just changed my Profile to appear off-line, and I assume my last login will be stuck on March 2 (1) forever now. If deon really is the Night Killer -- and I hope I'm insulting no one -- we could declare "moral victory." I wish Witches had self-protected (Investigation is worth little now), but it might not have mattered -- we'd have still lacked the votes to Lynch either Deon the Vampire or a Cabalist. Apparently you guys decided not to protect Idle, so you must have investigated someone. What result did you get? What difference does it make? We have to Lynch a Cabalist toDay. Your refusal to do so tells us which faction you're in.
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Post by Suburban Plankton on Mar 1, 2012 17:08:54 GMT -5
Apparently you guys decided not to protect Idle, so you must have investigated someone. What result did you get? What difference does it make? We have to Lynch a Cabalist toDay. Your refusal to do so tells us which faction you're in. What difference it makes is that it tells us that Inner Stickler is not, say, the Vampire. That information might come in handy, don't you think? I told you which faction I was in several days ago. I could tell you again, but what difference does it make?
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Post by special on Mar 1, 2012 17:14:11 GMT -5
So, all of the Masons cannot be Cabal, as one of them must be killing (or deon is a scoundrel who plays outside the spirit of the game)
So, let's assumu:
5 Town (1 absent) 3 Cabal/Masons 1 Killing Mason 1 deon
The Killing Mason can't vote with us, because that outs him.
We won't be able to lynch.
4 Voting Town 3 Abstaining Cabal 1 Abstaining Killer 2 Absent
5 votes needed.
He kills a Townie toNight: 3 Voting Town (Voting for Cabal) 3 Abstaining Cabal 1 Abstaining Killer 2 Absent
5 Votes Needed
He continues Killing Town: 2 Voting Town (Voting for Cabal) 3 Voting Cabal (Voting for Killer) 1 Abstaining Killer 2 Absent
4 Votes needed
He kills a Cabal: 2 Voting Town (Cabal) 2 Voting Cabal (Killer) 1 Abstaining Killer 2 Absent
Etc, until only the killer and the absents remain. and he wins.
So, if that's the situation, I concede now.
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If there are still 2 killers, we stand a chance, and Cabal stands a chance, and killers stand a chance. If there are no Cabal left, we still have a chance, and the killers still have a chance, but they are hiding in the Masons, and we will try to kill them.
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Post by special on Mar 1, 2012 17:16:01 GMT -5
The witches had hoped that we would both survive, thereby making a difference.
One of the worst case scenarios was to lose a Town player and the last Wolf (if indeed that happened)
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Post by Inner Stickler on Mar 1, 2012 17:16:14 GMT -5
Interesting trivia: We've had double deaths on Days 4, 6, and 8.
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Post by special on Mar 1, 2012 17:18:37 GMT -5
What difference does it make? We have to Lynch a Cabalist toDay. Your refusal to do so tells us which faction you're in. What difference it makes is that it tells us that Inner Stickler is not, say, the Vampire. That information might come in handy, don't you think? I told you which faction I was in several days ago. I could tell you again, but what difference does it make? By failing to vote for Hoopy, you've confirmed that you are both cabal. You never stated it outright, however, did you?
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Post by special on Mar 1, 2012 17:22:26 GMT -5
Pleo, please do consider ending the game if there is, in fact only 1 active killer alive.
Please, also provide protective services for deon if he is that killer.
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Post by special on Mar 1, 2012 17:25:39 GMT -5
If we have 2 killing roles, they'll have to avoid giving lynch power to the Town or to the Cabal.
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Post by special on Mar 1, 2012 17:27:00 GMT -5
ad if it's something weird like texcat's kill of septimus changed him into a werewolf, well, then I guess we're screwed anyway.
Sorry for all the posts, I'm just trying to let my mind wander into how we have 2 killers.
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Post by Pleonast on Mar 1, 2012 17:27:51 GMT -5
I will end the game when all reasonable paths lead to the same conclusion. We are not at that point.
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Post by special on Mar 1, 2012 17:28:14 GMT -5
It doesn't make sense, or the Masons wouldn't be confirming them.
Maybe the Cabal have an every other Night kill? Maybe they can kill if they have an odd number of players?
Maybe it's kill or recruit and our remaining Masons are hoping to be recruited?
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Post by Suburban Plankton on Mar 1, 2012 17:33:21 GMT -5
The witches had hoped that we would both survive, thereby making a difference. One of the worst case scenarios was to lose a Town player and the last Wolf (if indeed that happened) We still have a Wolf. texcat was an Alpha Wolf. when he died, the Alpha title passed on to the next Werewolf in line. We have not seen another Alpha, and the only dead Wolf who has not been positively (that is, by Pleonast) identified is Sister Coyote, and all indications are that she was the Omega. Therefore, there must be an Alpha Wolf remaining.
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Post by special on Mar 1, 2012 17:34:05 GMT -5
Maybe recruitment wasn't limited to masons?
Maybe those 4 have a Wolf among them who can win as Wolf or as Cabal?
Well, in any case, if the gang of four can kill, the game will officially end soon when they kill off 2 more active players.
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Post by Suburban Plankton on Mar 1, 2012 17:35:20 GMT -5
What difference it makes is that it tells us that Inner Stickler is not, say, the Vampire. That information might come in handy, don't you think? I told you which faction I was in several days ago. I could tell you again, but what difference does it make? By failing to vote for Hoopy, you've confirmed that you are both cabal. You never stated it outright, hoewver, did you? The only person who has stated outright they were Cabal was peeker, I believe. Would it make you feel better if I did?
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Post by special on Mar 1, 2012 17:35:26 GMT -5
The witches had hoped that we would both survive, thereby making a difference. One of the worst case scenarios was to lose a Town player and the last Wolf (if indeed that happened) We still have a Wolf. texcat was an Alpha Wolf. when he died, the Alpha title passed on to the next Werewolf in line. We have not seen another Alpha, and the only dead Wolf who has not been positively (that is, by Pleonast) identified is Sister Coyote, and all indications are that she was the Omega. Therefore, there must be an Alpha Wolf remaining. OK, so who is it? deon? Did septimus become a wolf? And where is the other kill coming from?
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Post by special on Mar 1, 2012 17:37:49 GMT -5
I jsut checked, and that isn't true.
In C4, I was lynched Day 2 as the Alpha. None of the other wolves were listed as Alpha when they died.
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Post by Suburban Plankton on Mar 1, 2012 17:41:19 GMT -5
I jsut checked, and that isn't true. In C4, I was lynched Day 2 as the Alpha. None of the other wolves were listed as Alpha when they died. Were the rules regarding Wolves (that the Alpha title is inherited) the same in that game? because it seems crystal clear here that there is always an Alpha Wolf, unless the Omega is the last Wolf remaining (since it's explicitly stated that the Omega cannot become Alpha). I reaffirm that there must be an Alpha Wolf in the game, or else Pleonast has made an error somewhere along the line.
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Post by Suburban Plankton on Mar 1, 2012 17:42:22 GMT -5
NETA: And my guess is that the Alpha (and last remaining) Wolf is deon
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Post by special on Mar 1, 2012 17:43:25 GMT -5
I jsut checked, and that isn't true. In C4, I was lynched Day 2 as the Alpha. None of the other wolves were listed as Alpha when they died. Were the rules regarding Wolves (that the Alpha title is inherited) the same in that game? because it seems crystal clear here that there is always an Alpha Wolf, unless the Omega is the last Wolf remaining (since it's explicitly stated that the Omega cannot become Alpha). I reaffirm that there must be an Alpha Wolf in the game, or else Pleonast has made an error somewhere along the line. yes, the Alpha title (but not the secret power) passed on to storyteller, who was revealed as a Werewolf
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