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Post by Høøpy Frøød on Mar 1, 2012 20:07:49 GMT -5
You blocked Sister Last Night? Yes. I said that in my reveal post, you know, if you had bothered to actually read the thing rather than dismissing it as malarkey. Nothing I've said in there is dishonest. I mean, if you think it's malarkey, you should actually have a good reason, rather than just dismissing it out of hand. What do you think cabal are trying to accomplish here. You can shout up and down that we are trying to pull something here, but unless you can actually come up with something, it looks as if you and septimus are both working your own angles because you know who's been killing who. What motive if I'm trying to accomplish by pushing for a stalemate? We can't kill. We can't lynch. All we can do is block. What grand scheme are we trying to pull? Sis did not kill last night. Guiri brought up the point that deon might have been killing on behalf of the wolves for a while now. Because it would make sense to designate the absent guy as your killer, since if he's outed as a killer, it's not as if he's really helping your cause much anyway. Guiri asked pleo, and he confirmed that a wolf doesn't have to actively participate at all to be designated a killer. So we essentially had a six of one, half a dozen of the other situation with those two.. It's very likely it's been the wolves targeting the masons/cabal. We didn't want to have them kill yet another one of us, and thereby make it harder for us to bring this to a stalemate. We guessed wrong on the killer, and it ended up actually working to our advantage somewhat, but we were going to push for a stalemate today anyway. Our big fear was no townie dying, and two people dying tonight, thereby guaranteeing town could meet the lynch threshold and win the game. Even losing one cabal as the only night kill wouldn't hurt us too much because the lynch threshold would still be 6, higher than can be achieved without cabal's help. It's now down to 5, but with another townie dead, the end result is the same. But now the killing roles have a bit more complicated situation in that cabal can now win if they don't play this right. If the killing roles take us all out, they will likely hand the game to town, unless it's you and Septimus, in which case one of you will have to kill the other, and town is unlikely to lynch you with your confirmations. However, the wolf cannot kill the vamp. And there is no vig. Which means, the vamp will win this if we can't stop him. And if all cabal are dead, the vamp can't be blocked and will essentially roll through everyone if he's among the confirmed. That's the situation here.
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Post by Høøpy Frøød on Mar 1, 2012 20:09:58 GMT -5
I know I'm not lying. A few hours ago I identified the roles of last Night's victims. In your fictitious world, would a recruited septimus still have Coroner power? Wouldn't be the first time a recruit has been able to keep their power. The masons can't keep their power for obvious reasons. It would break the game. So what if a recruit can identify the dead. It's not a particularly game-breaking power, now is it?
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Post by Høøpy Frøød on Mar 1, 2012 20:20:19 GMT -5
And really, septimus, what does cabal have to gain by trying to pretend their are two killing factions remaining. It actually makes it harder for us to get a stalemate that way.
We'd prefer there was only one.
So I want to hear your theory on what you think we're pulling here by claiming to block Sis when you think we didn't. You can say it's lies, but you haven't really explained our motivation for doing so.
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Post by special on Mar 1, 2012 20:23:01 GMT -5
How about no lynch and you block inner.
Lather. Rinse. Repeat.
If a kill ever happens, ten no lunch and block septimus.
Instead of a Mexican standoff, we can have détente.
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Post by special on Mar 1, 2012 20:24:41 GMT -5
And really, septimus, what does cabal have to gain by trying to pretend their are two killing factions remaining. It actually makes it harder for us to get a stalemate that way. We'd prefer there was only one. So I want to hear your theory on what you think we're pulling here by claiming to block Sis when you think we didn't. You can say it's lies, but you haven't really explained our motivation for doing so. Silly hoppy you needed to block the warlock to let the witch killer go free. You just guessed wrong. Oh, and inner. As long as we have 1 kill, never ever use your power
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Post by septimus on Mar 1, 2012 20:26:18 GMT -5
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Post by special on Mar 1, 2012 20:27:37 GMT -5
I agree. If we lunch toDay it's Cabal.
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Post by special on Mar 1, 2012 20:27:51 GMT -5
Damn autocorrect
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Post by septimus on Mar 1, 2012 20:51:20 GMT -5
"autocorrect" or "auto politically correct"?
It's niggardly of your machine not to let you lynch anyone.
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Post by special on Mar 1, 2012 20:54:23 GMT -5
Cannibalism isn't really politically correct either.
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Post by special on Mar 1, 2012 20:54:58 GMT -5
I still wish that the Town secret power had been something to counteract the potential recruitment of 8 Masons.
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Post by special on Mar 1, 2012 21:00:13 GMT -5
We've played well Here's our lynches:
Wolf Wolf Wolf Cabal Wolf Cabal Scotsman
And the Night Kills: Town Town Town(resurrected)/Cabal Town Town/Undead Cabal Town/Wolf
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Post by special on Mar 1, 2012 21:00:51 GMT -5
and, yeah, cabal didn't block Sister, they blocked someone else.
Deon is the Vampire. Sister was the last Wolf.
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Post by special on Mar 1, 2012 21:09:22 GMT -5
Wolf secret power was an extra kill from the grave. (maybe just after a lynching)
Night 3 was a revenge kill by texcat septimus and guiri had both voted texcat twice Night 5 was a revenge kill by Pollux Oil Drain Bead had voted Pollus Oil 3 times (Nanook had always voted wolves) Night 7 was a revenge kill by colby not seeing who it as....
I dunno, Maybe Texcat culd always revenge kill for any regular wolf death...
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Post by special on Mar 1, 2012 21:15:07 GMT -5
I'm going to PM Pleo and ask if we are allowed to track down an absentee player outside of the thread and encourage them to return to the game.
If he says yes, I will find hirka and bribe him to return and vote for Hoopy.
And Day by Day take out the Cabal and finally deon.
We deserve this win. We played well. We lynched well. We faced a possible Cabal of 9 with only 9 other Town players.
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Post by Inner Stickler on Mar 1, 2012 22:13:20 GMT -5
Oh, and inner. As long as we have 1 kill, never ever use your power Hand to heart, I will not risk killing the one thing standing between cabal and a win.
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Post by Høøpy Frøød on Mar 1, 2012 22:22:55 GMT -5
Silly hoppy you needed to block the warlock to let the witch killer go free. You just guessed wrong. Oh, and inner. As long as we have 1 kill, never ever use your power First of all, spell my goddamned name right. And no, we blocked sis because she was either a warlock or a wolf. The wolves targeted mason/cabal even when it made more sense not to. Since we weren't able to figure out the vamp's play, we targeted the person most apt to benefit us, either in that we don't die, or the vamp takes out a witch. I won't say that the fact that she claimed warlock wasn't a consideration into our thinking. And I get to rub it in yours, Inner's, and Septimus's faces when the game is over and it's proven that we did indeed block Sis last night. But really, the cabal are fine with no lynch. Assuming deon isn't acting behind the scenes, and that no one has been recruited to one of the other factions, there should only be one killing role remaining. Because deon as the last remaining wolf would have to actually submit a kill since Sis can't do so on his behalf anymore. However, without knowing who the vampire is, he can slowly wittle both town and cabal down. If it's Hirka, it's bad play on his part. And really I will never play in another game with him or permit him to ever play in any game I run in that case. Ditto deon if he still submits kills. So yeah, cabal will block one of the active players toNight. We won't say who. Let's see what happens, shall we. Oh, and since we're not going to be lynching we might as well: vote end day
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Post by Inner Stickler on Mar 1, 2012 22:33:11 GMT -5
It actually makes a bit of sense if deon is an inactive wolf and Sister was supplying his targets. That still doesn't explain the extra kills on Days 4,6, and 8. (Since I reject your hypothesis that Hirka is a cloaked vampire. If I don't have faith in my own results, how can I expect others to?)
Anyway, I also agree that if we're not lynching a cabal member, then we may as well end the day.
vote end day
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Post by special on Mar 1, 2012 22:35:47 GMT -5
sorry, it's the autocorrect on my phone. I was at a basketball game.
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Post by Høøpy Frøød on Mar 1, 2012 22:36:46 GMT -5
sorry, it's the autocorrect on my phone. I was at a basketball game. No problem. (And I wasn't actually angry.)
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Post by special on Mar 1, 2012 22:37:13 GMT -5
vote: End Day
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Post by gnarlycharlie on Mar 1, 2012 22:39:22 GMT -5
I'm going to PM Pleo and ask if we are allowed to track down an absentee player outside of the thread and encourage them to return to the game. If he says yes, I will find hirka and bribe him to return and vote for Hoopy. And Day by Day take out the Cabal and finally deon. We deserve this win. We played well. We lynched well. We faced a possible Cabal of 9 with only 9 other Town players. i disagree. killing roles played poorly. furthermore you can't compare a possible 9 to an actual 9. undead and cabal can argue that they have survived starting from 2 and 1 respectively. if there is no stalemate then the ones who have a chance to win are wolves and undead, especially if there is still a vampire.
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Post by gnarlycharlie on Mar 1, 2012 22:40:21 GMT -5
Vote End of Day
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Post by special on Mar 1, 2012 22:42:11 GMT -5
{vote] deon [/b][/color]
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Post by special on Mar 1, 2012 22:42:26 GMT -5
damn, I hate that
Vote: deon
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Post by special on Mar 1, 2012 22:43:11 GMT -5
nah, just kidding
Unvote: deon
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Post by special on Mar 1, 2012 22:43:51 GMT -5
Michel Déon (born August 4, 1919 in Paris) is a French writer.
With Antoine Blondin, Jacques Laurent and Roger Nimier, he belonged to the literary group of the Hussards. He is a novelist as well as a literary columnist.
Over the course of his admirable career, Déon has published over 50 works. He is the recipient of numerous awards, including the Prix Interallié for his 1970 novel, Les Poneys Sauvages (The Wild Ponies). Déon’s 1973 masterpiece, Un Taxi Mauve garnered him international renown when it received the esteemed title of the Grand Prix du roman de l'Académie française. His novels have been translated into numerous languages, delivering his unique voice across cultural and continental boundaries. He is considered one of the most innovative French writers of the 21st century.
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Post by special on Mar 1, 2012 22:44:54 GMT -5
This is odd....search "Hoopy" on wikiepedia
The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (Redirected from Hoopy)
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Post by Inner Stickler on Mar 1, 2012 22:45:17 GMT -5
Geeze louise, Ed.
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Post by Høøpy Frøød on Mar 1, 2012 22:45:18 GMT -5
It actually makes a bit of sense if deon is an inactive wolf and Sister was supplying his targets. That still doesn't explain the extra kills on Days 4,6, and 8. (Since I reject your hypothesis that Hirka is a cloaked vampire. If I don't have faith in my own results, how can I expect others to?) Well, we still haven't ruled out the possibility that you are a vampire with the undead secret power of being able to detect as town. After all, the early kills were no doubt wolves. It wouldn't be the first time in conspiracy a secret "power" has had multiple elements. (Case in point, Cabal last game had both a list of every role out there and the ability to mimic another role.) It's possible that the Alpha wolf had the ability to profane corpses and do a retalitory kill. It just seems eerily convenient that after you start playing again there are extra kills that can't be tied to any faction. It's clearly not town, and clearly not cabal, so it's likely to be vampire. Granted, we thought gnarly was vamp when we stopped blocking him and the "wolf kill from beyond the grave" occurred, so it's not as if cabal weren't wrong. But really, you being a townie-detecting vamp is considerably more likely than a septimus being recruited scenario. You know, you could just out yourself, we all lynch deon, and then we all go on our marry stalemated way. Or, even better, you take deon out toNight. And then the wolves lose flat out. Assuming we don't block you, but we can't really risk you trying to target one of us, now, can we. But, cabal can't win as long both you and deon are alive. And no one can kill the vamp outside of a lynch. But we sure as hell can block a vamp.
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