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Post by lianne on May 20, 2012 10:02:00 GMT -5
why didn't Town stay with their original hunches, like dizzymrslizzy, Pleonast, or Meeko? They all got big votes Day 1… what makes them less suspicious now? Or do they really just go off the most suspicious as time goes on? I asked this in the Day 2 thread - it seems like everyone started afresh rather than going back to their suspicions from before. Although I suppose that would be quite good for me this time! Maybe if they start on me again we can point them towards their Day 1 thoughts instead! Actually cathi had a good point when she said I still think we can get Gad mislynched, we just have to get the ball rolling. Maybe we have a game plan of our own? A blueprint to guide the townies to lynch the way we want? It would be good to have a plan but the danger is that if we all back each other up it will show us up later once a few of us are known to be Scum.
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Post by lianne on May 20, 2012 10:11:44 GMT -5
lianne: It's a game and we win together. No bad feelings I hope Oops sorry didn't reply to this. No it's ok - frustrating but ok lol. You couldn't have changed your vote when it got tight at the end without landing yourself in it. If I do get lynched at some point, remember to use the fact that wombat99 changed her vote to back me up at the very last minute...
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Post by lauriern on May 20, 2012 10:18:41 GMT -5
Hmmm...still re-reading Day 2 and something jumped out at me. Idle said he considers these people inactive: Dyar, Brideofpez, Sharon, and AmyLiz . He also states that he will be subbing in dead players after they die if they are willing to come back in the game.
Do we want this to happen?? Should we vote out at least one of these inactives toNight and maybe one or two each Night?
Will finish reading Day2, then post my third vote.
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Post by lauriern on May 20, 2012 10:29:27 GMT -5
<snip> Phew that was close! Richbeckman I understand that it is sometimes necessary to point out scummy behaviour in other scum although I have to admit that you did occasionally come back to me when the heat was going off me and going onto someone else which I could have done without! We are in the monority and we need to hang on to as many of us as possible and I don't think it is necessary to bus anyone yet. I forgot I wanted to reply to this last night: RichBeckman , I have to agree with Lianne here. There were times that the vote was moving away from her & your post seemed to steer the suspicion back onto her. Remember, we have to play (mostly) as a team and while I understand sometimes needing to bus a teammate, I don't think we need to actively throw each other under that bus. I'm sure you just want to survive (as do we all), but please, don't do it at the expense of the rest of us unless absolutely necessary. We almost lost a teammate and we need all we can get!
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Post by lauriern on May 20, 2012 10:50:04 GMT -5
Also trying to figure out how/why LightFoot was targeted. Lucky shot or Vig kill from someone who knows her playstyle? This post from Septimus makes me wonder:
"LightFoot offered lots of very helpful advice in Day 1. A give-away, though I didn't catch it, might have been her back-to-back posts #551 and #552 in which, by accidentally clicking Post instead of Preview, she showed that she was dithering over her post. (IIRC, she's exposed herself as scum in prior games in a similar way.)"
This seems a possible tell to me?? Did septimus recognize her Scum playstyle and Vig kill her??
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Post by lauriern on May 20, 2012 11:06:28 GMT -5
Hmmmmmm.......He also posted this in Day 2, post #88:
"Kudos to the Vig who knocked off Scum LightFoot ! She sure had me fooled, with very helpful pro-Town posts. It's after-the-fact, of course, but here are back-to-back posts which maybe should have tipped us off:"
<insert lightfoot's posts #551 & #552>
"Notice the fine tuning here, with 'and I agree' disappearing. Such indecision in one's own views is a Scum tell."
He seems awfully sure that this is how LightFoot was targeted. It just makes me wonder if HE was the Vig who killed her.
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Post by lianne on May 20, 2012 11:25:05 GMT -5
Laurie Rn I think you're onto something here. In the same post, septimus says My working hypothesis is that there are 2 Vigs and 3 Scum kills (and Night 1 had a collision between two Killers or a Killer and a Doctor). Read more: www.idlemafia.com/index.cgi?action=userrecentposts&user=septimus#ixzz1vQYbuDu6He is the only person to have guessed there are 3 Scum kills. It's either a lucky guess or he has better information than the rest of Town. Also both times he changed his vote to go for the vote leader which looks like he has something to hide. And he fits the aim of removing some of the more experienced players. Vote: Septimus Note to Idle - this is my 2nd vote of 3.
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Post by lauriern on May 20, 2012 12:00:07 GMT -5
Ugh! This game is driving me insane! Doubting everything I'm thinking, worried I'm going to screw up, why oh why did I sign up for this???...........and yet I LOVE it! ;D I must be some kind of nut. Despite that, I'm thinking my third vote will be for: Vote: septimus I am willing to change one of my 3 votes if there are others who feel that some of the inactives should go.
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Post by cathi on May 20, 2012 12:36:11 GMT -5
Good points, ladies, you're both reading much more carefully than I am. Hm, I'm thinking to switch from Archangel to Septimus on the chance that he's a Town Vig. Also, Silver Jan & Hal seem to be drawing a bead on Lianne. Along with the voting on D2, I'm afraid you might be in real danger. If we take out michellehunter and she can and does take out Lianne with her, will Idle share who she took? Or just that she was Crazy?
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Post by cathi on May 20, 2012 12:44:09 GMT -5
lianne, re: Gad mis-lynch plan -- we would have to plan it carefully. Obviously, we can't all VOTE for him, but we can all TALK about him. Like, "I really don't like that Gad xyz, but I still think Meeko looks scummier" and hope that we build enough of a case that the Townies will lynch him for us. Unless folks think it's safer to just NK him now. Really, unless we're able to take out Town powers, aren't we just killing those we think are a threat? Anyone have any ideas regarding who has the other power roles? I think only Pleo has claimed something so far. Something's niggling at me, I'm going to go read some more and see if I can find it.
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Post by texcat on May 20, 2012 14:04:17 GMT -5
I am back. Sorry, I really thought I would be able to at least keep up with the thread last week, but my internet time was almost zero. I am just about to start reading Day Two.
Very good work killing frances the detective!!! Do we know how Gadarene managed to stay alive?
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Post by Rich Beckman on May 20, 2012 14:30:44 GMT -5
Hmmm...still re-reading Day 2 and something jumped out at me. Idle said he considers these people inactive: Dyar, Brideofpez, Sharon, and AmyLiz . He also states that he will be subbing in dead players after they die if they are willing to come back in the game. Do we want this to happen?? Should we vote out at least one of these inactives toNight and maybe one or two each Night? <snip> I can see the case for this. It does not do a lot of good to kill Guiri, for example, if he just turns around and comes back. However, whoever we kill might choose to not sub back in. Four town players have been killed and none of them have returned. The worst that can happen is someone takes two kills to get rid of them. But if we are using a kill on an inactive, we are using two kills to get rid of them. Also, town does not whether the inactives are town or scum, so those sitting there do represent unknown data points.
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Post by texcat on May 20, 2012 14:39:58 GMT -5
Septimus:
This accuracy is scary. I've got to suspect that he is the Doctor that saved Gadarene.
vote: Septimus
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Post by lianne on May 20, 2012 14:41:55 GMT -5
Cathi I didn't necessarily mean we should be aiming at Gadarene but that we should think about having some sort of game plan when we get this chance to plot, as it were.
texcat from what you say, do you thin we shuold vote Gadarene?
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Post by Rich Beckman on May 20, 2012 14:49:54 GMT -5
Septimus: This accuracy is scary. I've got to suspect that he is the Doctor that saved Gadarene. vote: Septimusbleached Saved Gadarene from who?? We voted to kill frances, Bill, and Sister Coyote. And those three died!! Plus Lightfoot. The likely explanation is that one Vig killed Lightfoot. It is possible that another Vig targeted someone and a Doctor had that person protected, but that is just pure speculation.
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Post by texcat on May 20, 2012 14:51:59 GMT -5
I'm still only at post #124, so I have a long way to go to get caught up. But I'd say it looks to me like Septimus has the role of Doctor, and therefore Septimus is higher up on my list than Gadarene at the moment.
And why is Ed showing up as guest? I guess I'll eventually get there....
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Post by Rich Beckman on May 20, 2012 14:54:20 GMT -5
I believe the vote totals so far are:
Michelle Hunter 4 Guiri 4 Septimus 3 Catinasuit 2 Mahaloth 1 Kagemoto 1 Archangel 1 Meeko 1 Gadarene 1
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Post by texcat on May 20, 2012 14:54:50 GMT -5
Oh crap well I am an idiot... thank you rich! I thought we voted frances, BillMc and Gad.
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Post by Rich Beckman on May 20, 2012 14:57:05 GMT -5
<snip> And why is Ed showing up as guest? I guess I'll eventually get there.... Ed dropped out of the game and deleted his account. Burn out. He has been subbed in for with Archangel. So whatever role Mr. Special Ed had, Archangel now has it.
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Post by texcat on May 20, 2012 16:08:51 GMT -5
Up to #355 now and getting a little woozy. I think I already need a re-read; I seem to be getting Mchlle71 mixed up with MicheleHunter.
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Post by texcat on May 20, 2012 17:30:08 GMT -5
I've had a read through. And will Unvote: Septimus Vote: MicheleHunter
I think MicheleHunter is a good kill since it hopefully will be 2 kills for 1. Let's kill her now while she is still suspecting townies to take out with her.
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Post by lauriern on May 20, 2012 17:38:44 GMT -5
*bleached* I've had a read through. And will Unvote: Septimus [/color] Vote: MicheleHunter [/color] I think MicheleHunter is a good kill since it hopefully will be 2 kills for 1. Let's kill her now while she is still suspecting townies to take out with her. [/quote] Don't forget, we have 3 kills! You have 2 more.
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Post by Idle Thoughts on May 20, 2012 17:41:00 GMT -5
Michele: 5 Guiri: 4 Catinasuit: 2 Septimus: 2 Mahaloth: 1 Kagemoto: 1 Archangel: 1 Meeko: 1 Gadarene: 1
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Post by AmyKay on May 20, 2012 18:00:11 GMT -5
Laurie Rn I think you're onto something here. In the same post, septimus says My working hypothesis is that there are 2 Vigs and 3 Scum kills (and Night 1 had a collision between two Killers or a Killer and a Doctor). Read more: www.idlemafia.com/index.cgi?action=userrecentposts&user=septimus#ixzz1vQYbuDu6He is the only person to have guessed there are 3 Scum kills. It's either a lucky guess or he has better information than the rest of Town. Also both times he changed his vote to go for the vote leader which looks like he has something to hide. And he fits the aim of removing some of the more experienced players. snipped. I would be willing to change my vote to Septimus from either catinasuit or Meeko. But if Meeko doesn't die toNight, though, I really want to pound him hard on Day Three - I need him gone.
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Post by lauriern on May 20, 2012 18:04:33 GMT -5
I would be willing to change my vote to Septimus from either catinasuit or Meeko. But if Meeko doesn't die toNight, though, I really want to pound him hard on Day Three - I need him gone. I hear you - he's really a pill
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Post by AmyKay on May 20, 2012 18:05:07 GMT -5
new question. Idle said on the other Night board that he can start Day 3 early, if all night actions are complete. But, doesn't he need to wait until the said end time anyway? If he doesn't, wouldn't it signal to the Townies that all of the inactives are town? If scum are able to come to a consensus before time is up, that would mean all scum have weighted in, ergo, we have no inactives. right?
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Post by lianne on May 20, 2012 18:07:58 GMT -5
Oh dear Idle is saying he may bring the end of night forward. Several people haven't popped up on here yet. Just in case I miss my chance my 3rd vote goes to
Vote: Gadarene
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Post by Idle Thoughts on May 20, 2012 18:14:17 GMT -5
Noooo, I'm not going to end Night early yet. I was just saying that IT'S A POSSIBILITY. Night never has to last as long as I say it does. If everyone gets their Night actions in early, I could end Night early. Sometimes this is wanted, especially if a lot of people are just waiting around doing nothing. This happens a lot nearing end game when there are less people talking. I was just pointing this out because, so far, a few people have 4-5 votes already...So that makes them a pretty sure thing for being Nightkilled. Really, you just need ONE more person to get to 4 or 5 votes before I'll accept those three as being the ones everyone wants to kill... ..in which case, we could end Night early. But it's fine if you don't want to do that. Sometimes scum like having the whole Night to talk things through. Another thing you all could do (that scum typically do at Night--but that I haven't seen any of YOU do), is use this time to talk about and make plans and strategies about what to do IN THE GAME, the NEXT DAY. : )
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Post by Idle Thoughts on May 20, 2012 18:15:11 GMT -5
Michele: 5 Guiri: 4 Catinasuit: 2 Septimus: 2 Gadarene: 2 Mahaloth: 1 Kagemoto: 1 Archangel: 1 Meeko: 1
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Post by lauriern on May 20, 2012 18:15:35 GMT -5
Idle, When/how would our nightkills be considered complete?
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