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Post by lauriern on May 21, 2012 7:04:16 GMT -5
Just a side note:
I never expected the vote on Michlle 71 to take off the way it did. I made a case & voted thinking she would not end up being lynched since Michele Hunter was under some serious scrutiny. It was never my intent for her to go. I didn't want to be a part of a 2nd mislynch so soon!
Maybe Lianne, Annem & I are not the best ones to prod a mislynch on someone?? We probably shouldn't vote for the mislynch target at all this time.
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Post by Rich Beckman on May 21, 2012 8:13:18 GMT -5
If I move my vote off Guiri and onto Gad, it will break the 3 way tie. I just don't want to be the only one to make the decision. Are we feeling like we want Gad to go now & wait until next time for Guiri? I only have until about noon (EST) to change my vote b/c I have to work tonight. Opinions, please? No, I think Guiri is more important than Gadarene. If the tie remains, then it is left up to random.org and Guiri might still be the kill.
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Post by Rich Beckman on May 21, 2012 8:20:33 GMT -5
Just a side note: Maybe Lianne, Annem & I are not the best ones to prod a mislynch on someone?? We probably shouldn't vote for the mislynch target at all this time. I could not agree more.
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Post by lauriern on May 21, 2012 9:18:09 GMT -5
Lianne, I was just thinking that they seem to be targeting you & letting others go for the "oops, mislynch" posts (especially Wombat99 who voted very last second and flipped the tiebreaker to Michlle71). I wonder if a detective has found out that you are Scum and is pushing for your lynch? (and possibly has found out that Wombat99 is town as well??) Hmmmm... going to go back & see which people are being vocal. I think we need to keep them in mind, especially if you don't make it. I think we need to keep this strategy in mind if any one of us doesn't make it.......
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Post by texcat on May 21, 2012 10:46:43 GMT -5
I think cathi makes a good case for Gadarene. He might have a role. Vote: Gadarene I think that leaves Guiri and Septimus tied in 3rd place.
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Post by texcat on May 21, 2012 11:05:48 GMT -5
One thought for toMorrow... if one or more of our kills don't go through (We do seem to be picking people who might be protected.) An option for claiming when one of us gets in a tight spot might be to claim Doctor. We could claim to have protected whoever did not get killed. This might lure the real Doctor out so that we could kill him, or it might change enough votes to avoid the lynch.
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Post by Pleonast on May 21, 2012 11:23:00 GMT -5
Checking in now. Here are my votes. I haven't read this thread yet... vote michelehunter for having a secret role. Better to kill her now while there's a lot more town than scum. vote aleetha for a random newbie kill. vote septimus for a random oldie kill. <snip> Phew that was close! Richbeckman I understand that it is sometimes necessary to point out scummy behaviour in other scum although I have to admit that you did occasionally come back to me when the heat was going off me and going onto someone else which I could have done without! We are in the monority and we need to hang on to as many of us as possible and I don't think it is necessary to bus anyone yet. I forgot I wanted to reply to this last night: RichBeckman , I have to agree with Lianne here. There were times that the vote was moving away from her & your post seemed to steer the suspicion back onto her. Remember, we have to play (mostly) as a team and while I understand sometimes needing to bus a teammate, I don't think we need to actively throw each other under that bus. I'm sure you just want to survive (as do we all), but please, don't do it at the expense of the rest of us unless absolutely necessary. We almost lost a teammate and we need all we can get! No, no, no! That's exactly how scum get caught. rich must keep pushing a case they feel is legitimate. If lianne gets lynched, rich will be able to rightfully claim to have been an instrumental part of it. If rich dies first, lianne will be able to point to scum trying to lynch them. If a case is made and then backed-off, it will look suspicious. When posting in the town threads, completely forget about who your teammates are. Players can be very clever at sussing out implied relationships. Don't even think about it! Really, you just need ONE more person to get to 4 or 5 votes before I'll accept those three as being the ones everyone wants to kill... Please, please, don't do that. I'm not online on the weekends and if you cut the Night early then you remove my chance to participate at Night.In my opinion, this is bad advice. Scum who coordinate are scum that get lynched. We need to look as disorganized at the town actually is. It's okay to talk about general ideas, but to plan to focus on a player, or draw attention away from another, or any sort of vote coordination will get us lynched. You might not think it's much. It is. You might think you're clever enough to avoid notice. You're not. Someone will figure it out, especially when we're at Day Nine and there's a long history of interactions and votes. Don't be tempted, don't coordinate or plan here. ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ General thoughts on who we're killing--we really need to kill a newbie player. michelehunter doesn't count because of their claim. So while I don't think any of the leading kills are a mistake, I think we can do better.
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Post by Rich Beckman on May 21, 2012 12:07:34 GMT -5
<snip> General thoughts on who we're killing--we really need to kill a newbie player. michelehunter doesn't count because of their claim. So while I don't think any of the leading kills are a mistake, I think we can do better. I use to think we should go after newbies, but I have changed my mind. We are in much better shape to go after the experienced players. At some point, maybe tonight, we are going to target someone who is protected. At that point we need to focus on candidates less likely to be protected. It may be my imagination, but I think it is easier to make scum cases against newbies than against experienced players.
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Post by Rich Beckman on May 21, 2012 12:09:50 GMT -5
I believe the vote now stands at:
Michelle Hunter 7
Gadarene 6
Septimus 6
Guiri 5
CIAS 1
Kagemoto 1
aleetha 1
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Post by Pleonast on May 21, 2012 12:21:50 GMT -5
I use to think we should go after newbies, but I have changed my mind. We are in much better shape to go after the experienced players. At some point, maybe tonight, we are going to target someone who is protected. The problem will be that as the oldie town players get killed, the oldie scum players ( Pleo, texcat, Ulla) will start to stick out. If we go through with the two oldie kills ToNight, then ToMorrow, we really need to take out two newbie players.
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Post by texcat on May 21, 2012 12:22:53 GMT -5
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Post by Rich Beckman on May 21, 2012 12:33:21 GMT -5
The problem will be that as the oldie town players get killed, the oldie scum players ( Pleo, texcat, Ulla) will start to stick out. If we go through with the two oldie kills ToNight, then ToMorrow, we really need to take out two newbie players. Ahhhh...of course. Thanks for the correction.
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Post by Idle Thoughts on May 21, 2012 13:06:22 GMT -5
No worries, Pleo...I wouldn't ever end Night without hearing from you, haha. Michele: 7 Gadarene: 6 Septimus: 6 Guiri: 5 Catinasuit: 1 Kagemoto: 1 Aleetha: 1
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Post by Idle Thoughts on May 21, 2012 13:06:59 GMT -5
So with those votes, Michele, Gad, and Septimus will be the ones killed off.
Night ends in 4 more hours.
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Post by endhoot on May 21, 2012 13:09:09 GMT -5
I agree to kill a newbie player, that is aleetha And the other two are....
Uh... Well... I need to re-read these 4 pages
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Post by Rich Beckman on May 21, 2012 13:16:43 GMT -5
endhoot,
Don't forget you get three votes.
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Post by Rich Beckman on May 21, 2012 13:38:00 GMT -5
<snip> I forgot I wanted to reply to this last night: RichBeckman , I have to agree with Lianne here. There were times that the vote was moving away from her & your post seemed to steer the suspicion back onto her. Remember, we have to play (mostly) as a team and while I understand sometimes needing to bus a teammate, I don't think we need to actively throw each other under that bus. I'm sure you just want to survive (as do we all), but please, don't do it at the expense of the rest of us unless absolutely necessary. We almost lost a teammate and we need all we can get! No, no, no! That's exactly how scum get caught. rich must keep pushing a case they feel is legitimate. If lianne gets lynched, rich will be able to rightfully claim to have been an instrumental part of it. If rich dies first, lianne will be able to point to scum trying to lynch them. If a case is made and then backed-off, it will look suspicious. When posting in the town threads, completely forget about who your teammates are. Players can be very clever at sussing out implied relationships. Don't even think about it! And case in point: Try that again: Phew, that was too close for comfort and sure was frustrating, but even though we managed to avoid a mislynch of me, we still managed to mislynch someone else. you read it one way I read it another...difference of opinions although because I have suspicions about lianne and YOU are trying to defend her I gotta say it lands some suspicion on you as well...just my opinion
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Post by endhoot on May 21, 2012 13:45:11 GMT -5
I think i'll vote for the top three Unvote: aleetha Vote: michelehunter septimus gadarene
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Post by Idle Thoughts on May 21, 2012 14:05:52 GMT -5
Right, that makes 8, 7, and 7 votes for the top three people and everyone, as far as I can tell, has voted save for Mistde.
Anyone object to my starting Day a little early? It's totally fine if not. If you all want to plan or talk things a bit more, that's fine.
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Post by Rich Beckman on May 21, 2012 14:25:36 GMT -5
[green]It is alright with me.
Is Mistde considered qualified for a sub yet, or still considered to be playing but not much?[/green]
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Post by texcat on May 21, 2012 14:29:00 GMT -5
New Day is fine with me.
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Post by Idle Thoughts on May 21, 2012 14:52:49 GMT -5
I'll try to get a sub for mistde...however, two things:
1. I'm worried that if I sub out her (who is a sub HERSELF), that it will look weird. Like, why am I subbing out that particular person so much when there are others who haven't posted once who I haven't even subbed out once? I think that the players will question that and might find it suspicious, actually. If I were playing and saw one person replaced two times when others were just ignored, I'd think that that person was probably a more important role than most.
2. Every side will always have inactive people, it's just a part of the game, ESPECIALLY in one with this many people. I mean, most games just with 20 people will have one or two or three who are inactive. In a game with 60 people, I'd have expected six or more to be inactive. So yeah, there will always be inactive people on both sides...if I replaced the ONE inactive scum, that wouldn't be fair..since that would give scum all active people and town full of inactives still.
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Post by Idle Thoughts on May 21, 2012 15:14:23 GMT -5
Okay, Day three has started....noooo more talky talky. : )
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Post by Pleonast on May 21, 2012 17:03:05 GMT -5
Just a complaint to the mod: it was rather unfair* to allow michelehunter to choose their victim based on information given during Day Three. It would've been better to hold off the Day until they chose their target.
*Unfair based on information currently available to me. Hopefully there's something to balance out the advantage town gained by this little shenanigan.
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Post by AmyKay on May 21, 2012 18:37:31 GMT -5
another complaint: I thought THREE people had to agree to start the day early, and I only see two.
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