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Post by Silver Jan on May 23, 2012 18:15:20 GMT -5
If that's true, then I will point out again that you should show us where and you're more likely to be believed. And, if it's true, you're doing town a service by providing WiFoM about who scum should kill at night. Wow, it is a game Archangel
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Post by Suits101 on May 23, 2012 18:17:00 GMT -5
I think you should do the editing more carefully, the quote that you post is mine not Kagemoto I guess quoting is as problematic for me as it is for others. It shall remain a mystery... Apologies for that misquote.
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Post by Archangel on May 23, 2012 18:17:38 GMT -5
Yeah, I'm thinking she's a mason now because I pointed out that only masons and scum need another board. Being anything other than a mason or scum would not explain why [bold]aleetha[/b] addressed her as janetsinton.
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Post by Archangel on May 23, 2012 18:18:37 GMT -5
And, if it's true, you're doing town a service by providing WiFoM about who scum should kill at night. Wow, it is a game Archangel Um, yeah? A game I play to win?
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Post by Mahaloth on May 23, 2012 19:24:00 GMT -5
Guys, Silver Jan is a mason.
I know because I'm one, too.
Sorry if that is the wrong move, fellow townies. At least we're confirmed now, or will be if one of us is killed at Night. Go ahead, scum, pick one of us off. I dare you! Ha!
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Post by Meeko on May 23, 2012 19:27:00 GMT -5
Guys, Silver Jan is a mason.
I know because I'm one, too. Sorry if that is the wrong move, fellow townies. At least we're confirmed now, or will be if one of us is killed at Night. Go ahead, scum, pick one of us off. I dare you! Ha! This doesn't explain why Silver Jan lied. This doesn't explain the Breadcrumb.
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Post by wombat99 on May 23, 2012 19:33:20 GMT -5
Guys, Silver Jan is a mason.
I know because I'm one, too. Sorry if that is the wrong move, fellow townies. At least we're confirmed now, or will be if one of us is killed at Night. Go ahead, scum, pick one of us off. I dare you! Ha! This doesn't explain why Silver Jan lied. This doesn't explain the Breadcrumb. The breadcrumb could be Day2 #21 where Gadarene says ------------------------ I really don't think the Silver Jan thing is that fruitful to keep pursuing. I'm satisfied with her explanation. ---------------------------
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Post by wombat99 on May 23, 2012 19:34:10 GMT -5
NETA: but yeah I don't get the claiming/unclaiming/claiming either
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Post by Meeko on May 23, 2012 19:35:10 GMT -5
Guys, Silver Jan is a mason.
I know because I'm one, too. Sorry if that is the wrong move, fellow townies. At least we're confirmed now, or will be if one of us is killed at Night. Go ahead, scum, pick one of us off. I dare you! Ha! At least we're confirmed now How's this again, Maha?
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Post by aleetha on May 23, 2012 19:45:36 GMT -5
Yeah, I'm thinking she's a mason now because I pointed out that only masons and scum need another board. Being anything other than a mason or scum would not explain why [bold]aleetha [/b] addressed her as janetsinton. [/quote] I addressed her as janetsinton because the "quote author" states janetsinton not Silver Jan. I just realized it was Silver Jan after I clicked Post Reply button and re-read what I wrote.
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Post by wombat99 on May 23, 2012 19:52:39 GMT -5
This doesn't explain why Silver Jan lied. This doesn't explain the Breadcrumb. The breadcrumb could be Day2 #21 where Gadarene says ------------------------ I really don't think the Silver Jan thing is that fruitful to keep pursuing. I'm satisfied with her explanation. --------------------------- Correcting myself here: that should say Day2 #29
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Post by Mahaloth on May 23, 2012 20:03:02 GMT -5
At least we're confirmed now How's this again, Maha? I know; it's my second game as a confirmed Townie, which should guarantee me NOT getting lynched. After getting lynched early in a few games, anti-lynching karma is apparently swinging my way. Having said that, I don't mind dying if it helps win. I very well may die toNight, but I guess that confirms Jan for everyone. Oh, and I have no idea about Gadarene breadcrumbing. We were supportive of each other, but no actual breadcrumbs from me or Gad as far as I know.
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Post by wombat99 on May 23, 2012 20:04:44 GMT -5
The breadcrumb could be Day2 #21 where Gadarene says ------------------------ I really don't think the Silver Jan thing is that fruitful to keep pursuing. I'm satisfied with her explanation. --------------------------- Correcting myself here: that should say Day2 #29Oh good lord. I'm posting/quoting challenged today. It was Day2 #187. (I was mixing up reply #'s with search # results of Gadarene's posts)
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Post by dizzymrslizzy on May 23, 2012 20:07:35 GMT -5
See now I read through all of D1/N1/D2 and didn't really see any breadcrumbs from Gad about either of you. I did see what could be breadcrumbs for Pleo.....He claimed a Power Roll......Gad was defending not lynching him......Gad got uber defensive when I suggested he was in cahoots with Pleo in D1. *shrug* I'm not seeing a good tell on either of you (Silver Jan, and/or Mahaloth)
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Post by Archangel on May 23, 2012 20:31:01 GMT -5
Yeah, I'm thinking she's a mason now because I pointed out that only masons and scum need another board. Being anything other than a mason or scum would not explain why [bold]aleetha [/b] addressed her as janetsinton. [/quote] I addressed her as janetsinton because the "quote author" states janetsinton not Silver Jan. I just realized it was Silver Jan after I clicked Post Reply button and re-read what I wrote. [/quote] In the post I'm concerned with/seeing (#170 Day Three) the quote shows you quoted Silverjan, not janetsinton.
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Post by Archangel on May 23, 2012 20:32:49 GMT -5
These two post just scream scum to me, didn't you read the beginning of the Day? So I know where my vote would be if it wasn't on Endhoot. BTW this isn't even a FOS or a smudge, it's a straight forward accusation. I admit I missed the post about it. Thanks to starrirain and guiri who explained it well. I'll try to stop skimming. So janetsinton, just because I did not understand about Confirmed Scum can make me sound as scum, ha? Totally Genious! No, damn it, aleetha is right. When you're trying to quote it, it shows as janetsinton. Posting this now, will see what it shows when it posts.
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Post by Suits101 on May 23, 2012 20:33:14 GMT -5
Vote: End Day Early or whatever the command is to end this Day early and talk about other probable Town or Scum.
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Post by aleetha on May 23, 2012 20:34:55 GMT -5
[/color] [/quote] why so hurry, ma'am? why don't you explain something about this? Reading guiri's post at #210 about you, makes think and finally put a suspicion on you. I vote texCat till she comes up with a reason why she vote end day
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Post by Archangel on May 23, 2012 20:36:32 GMT -5
All right, anyone can test the truth of that statement by quoting post #170. Though it does show Silver Jan when posted, it shows janetsinton when you're quoting. Well, Jan, if it makes you feel any better I'm now as frustrated as you are. I apologize for outing you. If it's any consolation, with Mahaloth claiming it does provide WiFoM for scum and if they kill one of you the other is confirmed. I'm inclined to believe you both now because Mahaloth claiming as scum doesn't make a hell of a lot of sense.
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Post by aleetha on May 23, 2012 20:38:47 GMT -5
No, damn it, aleetha is right. When you're trying to quote it, it shows as janetsinton. Posting this now, will see what it shows when it posts. I should explained it in the first place. Sorry At least it made me learn something. I should click Preview button first before publish my comment
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Post by septimus on May 23, 2012 20:45:30 GMT -5
At least we're confirmed now How's this again, Maha? Obviously, Silver Jan and Mahaloth are both Masons, assuming only that we started with at least three Masons ... which I'd say is a certainty in a game this size. If both were Scum, two real Masons would present themselves and denounce them. Outing two Scum and two Masons is a huge win for Town. (BTW, Jan and Maha, would it be smart to tell us now how many Masons there are in toto?) I'm sure you're aware of this, Meeko, why is your vote still on Silver Jan? With three more-or-less confirmed Town Powers (no, I'm not including Pleonast ), I wonder if there's some protocol for the Doctor(s) to apply. Just as an example: Roll a die; Protect Hal Briston if 1,2 or 3 Protect Silver Jan if 4 Protect Mahaloth if 5 Use your own judgment if 6 (I realize it seems self-deprecating to feel one's judgment should only be applied one-sixth of the time; but in my case even that might be too high. ) But the proposal may just reflect my own inexperience. I hope more experienced players will discuss.
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Post by Rich Beckman on May 23, 2012 20:53:06 GMT -5
Oh, and I believe he has cast votes for: <snip> The interesting thing here, Rich, is that my Recollection of the Vote records are different. Please correct me if I am wrong here; Day 1: Pleonast - 6 votes (CatInASuit, BillMc, Meeko, cassiepietz, michelehunter, francescaj) You yourself admit that Pleonast is Unconfirmed. Therefore I regard Day 1 for me as no Harm, No Foul.Day 2: Gadarene - 1 vote ( Meeko) I made a recorded vote against Town. This vote was the only vote Gad had, Gad was not lynched. Day 3: Endhoot - 24 votes (Susan K Murphy, kagemoto, Suits101, michelehunter, meeko, Mahaloth, texcat, wombat99, dizzymrslizzy, crys, richardbeckman, jmj697mn, annem, cassipietz, cathi, supermel, jlrinmke, Silver Jan, colby11, Total Ulla, Septimus, gnarlycharlie, CatInASuit, Paranoia) And I believe we are both voting for Endhoot here. I Regard Day 3 for me (and you) as no harm no foul.
Three of his five votes were for confirmed town. I have only made 3 votes. I have made one recorded vote against a confirmed Town.
Let's compare that to yoursDay 1 : starrirain - 13 votes (Mr Special Ed, colby11, Gadarene, septimus, Pleonast, mchlle71, dizzymrslizzy, lianne, richardbeckman, supermel, jmj697mn, annem, ascime) You made a recorded vote against a confirmed Town. Day 2 : Lianne - 8 votes (guiri, Total Ullz, dizzymrslizzy, annetastic, Septimus, richardbeckman, Susan K Murphy, GnarlyCharlie) You made a recorded vote against a scum. Day 3: Endhoot - 24 votes (Susan K Murphy, kagemoto, Suits101, michelehunter, meeko, Mahaloth, texcat, wombat99, dizzymrslizzy, crys, richardbeckman, jmj697mn, annem, cassipietz, cathi, supermel, jlrinmke, Silver Jan, colby11, Total Ulla, Septimus, gnarlycharlie, CatInASuit, Paranoia) And I believe we are both voting for Endhoot here. I Regard Day 3 for me (and you) as no harm no foul. You too have made one recorded vote against Town. I'm not sure what you are trying to say, when you mention that I've voted for a town. The Difference? Your vote on town added to the mislynch. My vote on Gad did nothing.That all makes sense. I do notice that the only part of my post you address is the one that I added on as an afterthought; hence the "Oh." This will teach me to not do that. If I had thought more about it, I might have left it off.
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Post by texcat on May 23, 2012 20:55:31 GMT -5
The advantage is killing a bad guy instead of a good guy. So far town has lynched two good guys. Why would you want to make it three? Town may not gain much info from the voting record Today, but why postpone that? Do you think that if we vote endhoot Tomorrow or on Day 14 that the voting record will be more informative? texcat, do you think that by Tomorrow or Day 14 your posts will be more informative? I have been patiently awaiting your input on who may or may not be scum, yet your last thought about anyone, other than endhoot, seems to be Suburban and their random vote on dizzy back in D1. TOWN obviously aren't gaining much insight on the Day since people don't seem to want to share their opinions. I'm not trying to be mean, but honestly where is the town mentality here? I see you vote to end Day now, without not a thought on whom else we should be considering. I did take note of the fact that you have a real life and weren't able to play for a bit. But N2, you say you will post more thoughts Tomorrow, yet you fall right in with the crowd, not to mention the subtle pushing about people revealing their roles. Then slip back in to vote end day, with STILL no other suspects. Isn't it some kind of a scum tell to not actually hunt scum? Smudging...a lil perhaps, but I do believe you to be on the scummy side. I welcome thoughts and comments. My thoughts about talking on a day when the lynch is given are much like talking at night. The info does not help town make a decision, but it certainly helps scum make a decision. Let's look at what's happened Today. We've exposed the masons for the scum. Was there any reason to do that Today, or could it have waited until Tomorrow? With one dead mason, they were going to need to claim at some point, but it looks to me like we've just given the scum a bunch of targets. I agree! I was just thinking in the shower about that statment texcat made...how could Hal have know he would prevent a mislynch, being that to my understanding a detective gets to investigate one suspect a night, and he had investigated 2 scum in the 2 nights he had to do so. Thus, there is no way he could have known mchlle71 was not scum since he had not had the chance to investigate her, why on earth would he blow his cover before nightfall for that texcat? So what do you think would have happened if Hal had said Yesterday that he was a detective and that lauriern was scum? We would have lynched lauriern. Not a mislynch. MicheleHunter's role would not have been exposed and she would likely have not been NK'd. Hal could still have investigated endhoot and we would still be killing him Today. It seems to me, especially with this many players, we should be forcing scum to shoot into the dark and not be giving them juicy targets.
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Post by AmyKay on May 23, 2012 20:59:34 GMT -5
All right, anyone can test the truth of that statement by quoting post #170. Though it does show Silver Jan when posted, it shows janetsinton when you're quoting. Well, Jan, if it makes you feel any better I'm now as frustrated as you are. I apologize for outing you. If it's any consolation, with Mahaloth claiming it does provide WiFoM for scum and if they kill one of you the other is confirmed. I'm inclined to believe you both now because Mahaloth claiming as scum doesn't make a hell of a lot of sense. well, I'm inclined to believe archangel's reasoning that Mahaloth and SilverJan are probably masons at this point. As a n00b, I wasn't thinking about them talking off-board at Night, just Scum doing that. So, unvote SilverJan
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Post by supermel on May 23, 2012 21:01:14 GMT -5
texcat, do you think that by Tomorrow or Day 14 your posts will be more informative? I have been patiently awaiting your input on who may or may not be scum, yet your last thought about anyone, other than endhoot, seems to be Suburban and their random vote on dizzy back in D1. TOWN obviously aren't gaining much insight on the Day since people don't seem to want to share their opinions. I'm not trying to be mean, but honestly where is the town mentality here? I see you vote to end Day now, without not a thought on whom else we should be considering. I did take note of the fact that you have a real life and weren't able to play for a bit. But N2, you say you will post more thoughts Tomorrow, yet you fall right in with the crowd, not to mention the subtle pushing about people revealing their roles. Then slip back in to vote end day, with STILL no other suspects. Isn't it some kind of a scum tell to not actually hunt scum? Smudging...a lil perhaps, but I do believe you to be on the scummy side. I welcome thoughts and comments. My thoughts about talking on a day when the lynch is given are much like talking at night. The info does not help town make a decision, but it certainly helps scum make a decision. Let's look at what's happened Today. We've exposed the masons for the scum. Was there any reason to do that Today, or could it have waited until Tomorrow? With one dead mason, they were going to need to claim at some point, but it looks to me like we've just given the scum a bunch of targets. I agree! I was just thinking in the shower about that statment texcat made...how could Hal have know he would prevent a mislynch, being that to my understanding a detective gets to investigate one suspect a night, and he had investigated 2 scum in the 2 nights he had to do so. Thus, there is no way he could have known mchlle71 was not scum since he had not had the chance to investigate her, why on earth would he blow his cover before nightfall for that texcat? So what do you think would have happened if Hal had said Yesterday that he was a detective and that lauriern was scum? We would have lynched lauriern. Not a mislynch. MicheleHunter's role would not have been exposed and she would likely have not been NK'd. Hal could still have investigated endhoot and we would still be killing him Today.It seems to me, especially with this many players, we should be forcing scum to shoot into the dark and not be giving them juicy targets. Who do you mean by 'him' ? ( in bolded part?)
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Post by LadyRogue-II on May 23, 2012 21:10:31 GMT -5
vote endhoot vote end day
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Post by michelehunter on May 23, 2012 21:14:01 GMT -5
-bleached- I agree! I was just thinking in the shower about that statment texcat made...how could Hal have know he would prevent a mislynch, being that to my understanding a detective gets to investigate one suspect a night, and he had investigated 2 scum in the 2 nights he had to do so. Thus, there is no way he could have known mchlle71 was not scum since he had not had the chance to investigate her, why on earth would he blow his cover before nightfall for that texcat? Just my opinion, Hal knew on D2 that there would be a mislynch, he didn't want to out himself as a detective, on D2 he guessed right and gave Michele a choice, except if you look back, players were voting for Endhoot because Michele killed XYZ and she didn't have a choice, people were voting for EndHoot. Wacked theories but.... You're wrong I had every choice, just figured going for the one with no votes was easier?
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Post by Rich Beckman on May 23, 2012 21:20:40 GMT -5
The WOW you provided seems forced / coached. An additional post shortly. Meeko, I had the same exact reaction from RichBeckman's WoW. Archangel, I am making the assumption that by "same reaction" you are referring to the "forced/coached" comment. As to coached, in a way it was, but you, Archangel, were the coach. When you posted this: Re: DAY TWO. [navy]Result #61 on May 18, 2012, 11:49am Archangel[/navy] wrote:One of the first things that I thought of is "That sounds like Meeko." I made a note to review Meeko's post at first opportunity. As to it being "forced". I am not sure how to take that. Without further clarification, I assume it means I am making more of the case than is there. It is funny how people see these things differently. Yesterday's failure to lynch lianne being a great example. To me, the case against lianne was clear as can be. It was equally clear that the case against Mchelle71 was traceable back to a stupid misunderstanding. Obviously, several people saw things differently. I tried to clearly make the case against him as best as I could given my understanding of the game and my abilities. If the case does not add up to scum, that's fine. But I have to say that I am a lot more suspicious of him having worked on that post than I was before I started (the case is stronger than I expected to find), but I can not say how soon, if ever, I will be voting for him.
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Post by Meeko on May 23, 2012 21:49:46 GMT -5
This will teach me to not do that. If I had thought more about it, I might have left it off. I'm not entirely sure how to guarantee that you will understand a second pass at my posts, much less a tenth pass. But fine, I will let you dodge mine, as I dodged yours. I don't think we can or should get anywhere against each other right now, given the other things going on. That is to say, I think that Endroot or Silver Jan are Scum. We can revisit my votes and removed votes on now dead players later.
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Post by Idle Thoughts on May 23, 2012 21:50:17 GMT -5
Endhoot - 26 votes (Susan K Murphy, kagemoto, Suits101, michelehunter, Mahaloth, texcat, wombat99, dizzymrslizzy, crys, richardbeckman, jmj697mn, annem, cassipietz, cathi, supermel, jlrinmke, Silver Jan, colby11, Total Ulla, Septimus, gnarlycharlie, CatInASuit, Paranoia, Archangel, LadyRogue) annem - 2 votes (JustBeingGinger, starrirain, Hal Briston) texcat - 2 votes (guiri, Aleetha) Silver Jan - 1 vote (Meeko) jerelijah - 1 vote (jerelijah) wombat99 - 1 vote (patricia)
End of Day votes: 14 of 23
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