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Post by Meeko on May 31, 2012 5:29:20 GMT -5
I have not abandoned the game, Meeko...so I'll thank you to never think that I have. Right.
Because you are doing a great job with an updated vote count, time remaining in day, and results of the last crazy townie.
I'll never think that you have slacked off on your duties ever again. The long and the short of it is this, I have no clue how to respond to Patricia. Even if she does have a reason. I don't think I'm playing all that different this game. I think you'll find the difference in the player mix and the rampant substitution. If it's not this, then I truly can't play _This_ game, and I'll go and join Ed. I'm not sure what to do when no one gives a shit towards rational play. Of Course it is. Sometimes the best move is not to play.
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Post by michelehunter on May 31, 2012 6:36:17 GMT -5
Has the Crazy kill be confirmed as a Mason yet?
forgive me if it's posted I checked and rechecked and didn't see it
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Post by supermel on May 31, 2012 7:58:40 GMT -5
Going back to re-read, confused about a few things. At this point I was having suspicions about Meeko due to his skimming and voting for texcat after we had cleared up her comment. I am still not convinced though and will hold off on my vote. lots of comments since i last logged in yesterday and I hope there is lots more today- to get a better feel on a few people. Going back to re-read not sure what meeko claimed. Few other thoughts.. the players coming back in new roles is confusing but I'd rather we have more people who are active then roles that aren't being fulfilled. Very hard to get a feel as a new player when there are hardly any posts due to real life, people abandoning the game or people just lurking. It is my goal to do a late day vote- as i would like to see who is still not chiming in and lynch accordingly ...
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Post by cassipietz on May 31, 2012 9:01:26 GMT -5
I have read all these posts 4 times now and I still feel like there is nothing to convince me that anyone being currently voted for is scum...maybe I am not perceptive enough but I am trying to make a decision so here is it... vote textcat I read the case against her in several posts (particularly the with all the links) and it seems like scum to me. While I was close to voting archangel for the reasons I had before, I read the recent posts and they seem townie helpful so I no longer have suspicions about her. I also considered going back to my day one vote of Pleo for being so active and then inactive but then I read that he was sick and read the recent posts which again seem townie to me. Hoping that all my reading will lead to a good town outcome at the end of this day. I think I am starting to pick up on this game a bit more as I thought lianne's night 2 post about it being close set off my scum radar and was correct.
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Post by wombat99 on May 31, 2012 9:02:17 GMT -5
@ Meeko, I think you are being just rude in this game. How many more reasons do you need from Patricia? Unless she is a detective and knows that you are scum I think she has placed a reasonable vote. In fact, if my vote wasn't on LadyRogue I would be very tempted to place a vote on you again. Would this be a good time for Patricia to claim if she *is* a detective?
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Post by cassipietz on May 31, 2012 9:29:59 GMT -5
I have read all these posts 4 times now and I still feel like there is nothing to convince me that anyone being currently voted for is scum...EXCEPT ONE...maybe I am not perceptive enough but I am trying to make a decision so here is it... vote textcatI read the case against her in several posts (particularly the with all the links) and it seems like scum to me. While I was close to voting archangel for the reasons I had before, I read the recent posts and they seem townie helpful so I no longer have suspicions about her. I also considered going back to my day one vote of Pleo for being so active and then inactive but then I read that SHE was sick and read the recent posts which again seem townie to me. Hoping that all my reading will lead to a good town outcome at the end of this day. I think I am starting to pick up on this game a bit more as I thought lianne's night 2 post about it being close set off my scum radar and was correct. I just reread my post when I went to read wombat99's post and realized there were two errors in my post-they have been corrected in all caps
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Post by Pleonast on May 31, 2012 11:06:31 GMT -5
Now for Night Three... And congratulations to you for doing such a great job. You must have excellent scum-radar in this game. Or are scum yourself. Nah, too bold.Actually, for a game with something like 15 scum, sacrificing 2 to set up a good Detective cover is not that bold. Especially when the two scum are newbies with little participation. But unless we get strong evidence that Hal is faking us, it's smarter to assume they're truthful. Give up two scum mates? Scum would never do that. Do I need the sarcasm tag here? Got to agree with Meeko here. It's not likely, but we can't completely ignore the possibility of a false Detective. I have to agree with you here. Why would scum get rid of 2 players that weren't really suspects to most of us for the sake of just one, it doesn't add up. Trading two newbie scum, when there's a lot of scum, to get incredibly great town credit for an experienced scum? That's a risk-reward scenario that some scum might take. But anyway, it's foolish to think the worst. The evidence points to Hal being a Detective. It'd be supremely stupid to either lynch or Vig them. (Although, I'd like to see an explanation of why Hal wanted to end useful discussion on Day Three.)
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Post by Pleonast on May 31, 2012 12:08:48 GMT -5
Yay! Up to the current Day. Wombat99, Town, is dead. Colby11, Town, and a CRAZY TOWNIE, is close to death.guiri, a SERIAL KILLER PFK, who wanted to kill everyone so he could steal the win all for himself, is dead. This is so messed up. First, why is there a third party when the rules clearly state there are two teams? That's rather jerkish. Second, a survivor role in a game this large is really unfair to whoever got stuck with it. Virtually no chance of winning. Third, where are all the Night kills coming from? Did the serial killer have 3 kills? That's ridiculous, but since we know scum only have one kill, it's the only possibility. Unless the moderator is violating their own rules again. This game is not an example of good mafia moderation and/or design. ATTENTION EVERYONE: AMYLIZ421 will now be replaced by GUIRI (version 2.0) Yeah, another revolving door substitution giving a huge advantage to scum if that's the team they're on. Can you at least do a public reveal of old guiri's actions and results so to not give an advantage to whatever team their on now?Can you give us an explanation? I'm just going to be straight forward at this point. Vote: LadyRogueFor the following reasons: -1- She couldn't be bothered to vote on Day 1 or Day 2 -2- She refuses to tell us her thoughts because "others have already shared" Yet we have no clue which direction she leans on anything. -3- She get's really snotty when approached about it and even went as far as trying to deflect the finger at me for pointing it out. This is a good vote. Or a reason for the vote on your buddy? Is it not clear that I'm obsessed? I've commented on Texcat here, here, here, and here. You want us to believe a third party? I know they were killing scum, but that doesn't mean their motivitations were always in alignment with ours. Why don't you come up with your own reasons for voting texcat. (And in the future, give your reasons when you make your post.) I explained this 10 times, sorry to me my role was vanilla, and so nice of you to show up after 4 days while the rest of us did what we could to help town, and to decide what we did was wrong LOL (This is exactly why it's bad to revolve players back in the game.) You didn't explain anything. You weren't participating at that time. A player with the same name as you did, but that player is now out of the game. And despite the explanations, no one need believe them. I didn't, nor did many others. The fact that that role was town, doesn't mean the explanations were believable. They weren't. You ARE NOT more well to do in this game than I am. See, there's your problem in a single sentence. You're comparing yourself to another player. It doesn't matter. What matters is what teams we're on. Make a case about what team you think I'm on. Make a case to convince us what team you're on. Trying to justify yourself with respect to others in irrelevant. ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ Overall impressions. I don't see the case on texcat. It looks like players jumping on a verbal slip that does not look like a slip to me. Or guiri's obsession that looks eerily similar to Meeko's obsession with me. I like the cases on LadyRogue and Meeko. I'd be happy to see either of them lynched. Let me make my votes. vote LadyRoguefor 1: avoiding making votes. and 2: general resistance to giving us their own opinions. unvote LadyRoguevote Meekofor 1: continual hyper-defensiveness of any votes or questions to them. and 2: lack of positive contributions of who they think is scum other than those voting for them.
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Post by patricia on May 31, 2012 12:31:16 GMT -5
Thank you Pleonast for all your clear posts and quotes we newbie really need help to get a feel for the game. I Haven't been able to find any clear scum tells myself this day so until someone else pings me we have like minds on who to vote for today.
I all fairness to Idle - he has been uptodate with this game until Day Four - and there are two days left so maybe you all could cut him some slack - without MODs game like this wouldn't happen at all. SO Thank you Idle for taking the time to run the game for us
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Post by kagemoto on May 31, 2012 12:43:07 GMT -5
At this point we know that the Serial Killer PFK is dead, and there is no Vig in this game (the 2 unknown Roles are likely 2 Crazy Towns and 1 Serial Killer PFK). This means all the Nightkills from Night 4 will be all Scum kills, and the only way to get rid of Scums is by lynching.
I also don't like the fact that ascime's identity has been unconfirmed this long in Day 4. I have no reason not to trust Silver Jan and Mahaloth's Mason claims, but it is just weird that the MOD, who can easily confirm the Crazy kill in a couple of minutes, decide to wait. In my opinion it is very bad MOD practice to act in certain ways, intentionally or not, that that gives WIFOM to players.
Real Life issues now, will be back later.
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Post by guiri on May 31, 2012 13:49:55 GMT -5
@ Pleo, I suspect there'll be plenty or time for you and Idle to hash out your opinion on his moderation of this game once the game has ended, I don't see the benefit of commenting in the game thread. Thanks for the advice on how I should improve my game, noted, I should have included some reasoning. I don't see your problem with my vote though, yes, I was a pfk when I started the case and I'm continuing it now, you can pretend all you want but guiri_v2 is fully aware of guiri_v1's motivations and intentions and you can be sure that I'm not pfk anymore. Guiri_v1 killed Lightfoot, lianne and wombat.
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Post by Pleonast on May 31, 2012 15:26:32 GMT -5
I don't see your problem with my vote though, yes, I was a pfk when I started the case and I'm continuing it now, you can pretend all you want but guiri_v2 is fully aware of guiri_v1's motivations and intentions and you can be sure that I'm not pfk anymore. Guiri_v1 killed Lightfoot, lianne and wombat. Look at your vote from the point of view of someone with no special knowledge. A known third-party, win-stealing player makes a case against another player. The case is not particularly concrete, but based on some rather subjective interpretations. Then a player of unknown alignment takes that case, adds nothing to it, and makes a vote based on it. What are we to make of the player who is using a third-party argument to support their vote? It looks like a me-too vote, and we know it's not a townie me-too. Of course, it's not a scummy me-too, either. But can you see why someone who is not guiri might not be very persuaded by that vote? That the motivations are very suspect?
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Post by Pleonast on May 31, 2012 15:32:31 GMT -5
That reminds me... Is it not clear that I'm obsessed? I've commented on Texcat here, here, here, and here. Reading this case, it seems much better than a case against Meeko. Unvote: Meeko Vote: TexCat You know, I can understand why guiri might use their same argument from a previous life. But why would another player accept the case made by a third party player? septimus, could you expand on why you like the case on texcat? Something more than a "me-too" of the dead third-party player?
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Post by kagemoto on May 31, 2012 15:56:22 GMT -5
Snipped. Okay, not much to comment on Night Two. On to Day Three. The reasons are obvious and wrong. If there is a Vigilante player (or at least someone taking out scum at Night), it's always better to let the Vig kill known scum rather than lynch them. There's two benefits from lynching. 1: we remove a player we think is scum. And 2: we get a record of votes and interactions from deciding the lynch. Lynching known scum when there's a Night-killer who will do it for us completely guts point 2. If we lynch endhoot, we'll gain almost no information from this Day, because scum have a safe vote and town have no incentive to think about other players. And the final problem with lynching known scum when there's a Vig, is that if the Vig is a mandatory killer (they must kill every Night), we're forcing them to take a poorly informed shot. We're trading a lynch decided by lots of interaction for a kill of a player who has no chance to respond. If the Vig kills a power role because we took away their safe kill, our lynch will be a minimal gain. Voting endhoot in Day 3 was nothing wrong. In fact, the quoted analysis is obviously more wrong. Here's the first thing that the analysis is wrong: why was endhoot a known Scum before the end of Day 3? In Day 3 what we had was Hal's claim that, according to his investigation, endhoot is Scum. endhoot was never a known Scum until the MOD confirmed her as a Scum in Night 3. Now let's assume that Hal's claim made endhoot a "known Scum" in Day 3. But again the analysis is wrong, because there may be NO Vigs. We're in Day 4 now, and we now know it is unlikely that we have a Vig in this game, which makes the whole last paragraph of the analysis a joke. Anyways, since this is basically Day 3 analysis, let's assume that there might be a Vig. But still there is a big problem: there are no guaranteed success Vig Nightkills. Even if there is a Vig and there is a "known Scum", how do you know that the Vig's Power would be used to Nightkill the known Scum at Night without interference? By lynching someone else and not the known Scum, you take the risk of mislynching the Vig. Even if the Vig is not mislynched, there is no guarantee that the Vig will follow the Detective's suggestion to kill the known Scum at Night. Even if the Vig will kill the known Scum at Night, there might be other Power interefering with the Vig's Nightkill (Scum Doctor, Redirector, etc.) that the Vig's Nightkill may fail. Lastly, there is no rule preventing players from voting endhoot and talking about other players in Day 3. Information comes from all discussions, not just the voting record. In other words, lynching endhoot does not necessarily mean no useful information is gained in Day 3. Players can always build the case against other players while voting an individual player. In sum, it is always NO better to let the Vig kill known scum rather than lynch the known Scum, and there is nothing wrong lynching endhoot in Day 3. I'm not sure if this is a Scum tell, but the analysis was so obviously flawed that made me uncomfortable.
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Post by Idle Thoughts on May 31, 2012 16:03:39 GMT -5
Right. Because you are doing a great job with an updated vote count, time remaining in day, and results of the last crazy townie. 1. I already said I was busy this week and away for half of it. This has been the only Day so far I have done this. Day 1-3 were fine, as will be Day 5 on. Not to mention, I think I more than made up for it in Day 1-3 when I'd post the vote count more regularly and often than VIRTUALLY ANY OTHER MOD, so don't get on MY back about the vote count when I've already told you I was busy. 4 days of no vote count does not a bad mod make, especially when it's regularly posted all other times. 2. What's wrong with the time remaining in Day? 3. They've already been posted long ago, back when people said "He just killed a Mason." I saw no need to say it a fourth or fifth time.
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Post by Idle Thoughts on May 31, 2012 16:07:13 GMT -5
First, why is there a third party when the rules clearly state there are two teams? That's rather jerkish. Nowhere does it say there are only two teams in this game. You MAY be thinking/confusing the "How to play" topic with thinking there is two teams in this game...but that topic is NOT talking about this game specifically, rather, it's just a general "How to play" rules guide for new people. It is not a SPECIFIC rules thread for this game. Hope that makes sense. Nowhere does it say there are only two teams in this game.
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Post by Idle Thoughts on May 31, 2012 16:11:16 GMT -5
Texcat (5)- Guiri (4), Meeko (46), Suits101 (73), septimus (106), Cassi Meeko (4)- Texcat (49), mahaloth (55), Patricia (128), Pleonast Ladyrogue (3)- dizzymrslizzy (26), Silver Jan (42), cathi (110) Pleonast (1)- oldred (59) Wombat99 (1)- Susan K. Murphy (101) Dizzymrslizzy (1)- Ladyrogue (112)
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Post by Pleonast on May 31, 2012 16:22:19 GMT -5
Here's the first thing that the analysis is wrong: why was endhoot a known Scum before the end of Day 3? In Day 3 what we had was Hal's claim that, according to his investigation, endhoot is Scum. endhoot was never a known Scum until the MOD confirmed her as a Scum in Night 3. You're quibbling. When a claimed Detective successfully fingered one scum and then points their finger at another, that's close enough to confirmed for tactical considerations. We had two consecutive Night in which scum were killed. This meant that a non-scum player had a killing power, was actively using it, and was not being prevented from killing by a block or protection. It was very reasonable to assume that that player would kill the publicly identified scum. Not likely. The Vig could simply reveal their role to avoid the lynch that Day. Someone was using their killing power on scum. Why would they suddenly stop when handed one? There's only two unknown roles. One is the non-scum killing role, the other is the Crazy Townie. There cannot be any special scum roles. Yes, they might, but most players are risk-averse cowards who'd rather avoid doing anything that might draw attention to themselves. And even if players do make cases, without votes supporting them, it's all just words. Cases really need votes to be effective. And note that even if endhoot somehow avoided being Night-killed, they were not the last scum. We could simply lynch them the next Day, if need be. (And we know scum don't have special powers, so there's no hurry to lynch any particular one.) Finally, we got lucky that guiri didn't target a power role instead of a vanilla town on Night Three. Those killed at Night don't get to claim or give a defense for themselves. That is why it's better to leave the obvious kills to a Night-killer (when there is one) and the questionable ones to the lynch.
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Post by AmyKay on May 31, 2012 16:33:29 GMT -5
I voted Meeko on Day One because he kept throwing blame on anyone and everyone. [it won't let me quote that post, tho.] I focused on other things on Day Two, but he rubbed me wrong again on Night Two. Let me clarify the Meeko/Gadarene for you. Meeko was being very aggressive and it came off as an attack on Pleonast. Mind you I don't know any of these people, but I dislike bullies and Meeko was being a bit of a bully imo and then he got a little crazy there for a bit, however I just chalked it up to a personality misunderstanding because there is no inflection in text. snipped. I understand that Crys is talking about a specific Meeko instance, but I've been ruminating about Meeko's bully attitude throughout Day Two. It is rather harsh a lot of the time, but he seems to be the only one who does this (to such an extreme), so I'm not sure if it's a scum tell or just the way he is. I don't believe the bulk of his comments to be misunderstandings of inflection, but the extent to which he goes to gang up on others is rather disturbing. One one hand, I think he could be very vicious town, which is good. On the other, being so hardcore ALL THE TIME rubs me wrong - it's like the ultimate deflection, ya know? Now, Meeko has continued to do this, getting irate at some people, like PatriciaHello all I hope everyone in the states had a great holiday weekend. Not see much to write/talk about here in day 4 - I Guess Idle will post the vote count and confirm the kill when he can until then Vote: Meeko SIGH.Could you please give me A Rea......... Oh. In that case. Fuck off. and even Idle, whom he's attacked at least twice now. I think Pleonast hit the nail on the head by saying Meeko is HYPER-DEFENSIVE and doesn't make positive contributions. unvote LadyRogue vote Meeko for 1: continual hyper-defensiveness of any votes or questions to them. and 2: lack of positive contributions of who they think is scum other than those voting for them. (bleached) VOTE: Meekooh, and, congratulations, JustBeingGinger. Enjoy your elongated trip.
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Post by kagemoto on May 31, 2012 16:45:55 GMT -5
Vote LadyRogueFirst of all, this is a vote subject to change, but I will probably be unavailable for most of Friday. LadyRogue has posted semi-regularly, but most of the posts are with little substance. She did vote in all 4 Days, although the Day 1 vote was a non-vote because it was too late. However, other than the Day 3 vote for endhoot, all 3 other votes/non-vote in Days 1, 2 and 4 targeted the same player ( Dizzymrslizzy). In fact I think the LadyRogue-Dizzymrslizzy situation is nothing much different from the Pleonast-Meeko situation in Day 1, only that it lasted 4 Days with Day 3 being a break, and that the confrontation was a quieter one with no F-bomb involved. I have a hard time understanding how a player can help Town by so focusing on such confrontation between the 2 players without looking at other players. Furthermore, the reason that LadyRogue voted for Dizzymrslizzy is self-discriminating. Snipped quote: I just find her behavior kind of scummy because of the single-mindedness of her smudging me. Talking about single-minded acts, Dizzymrslizzy at least looked at other players and her Day 2 vote was on lianne and not on LadyRogue. If I have to choose one single-minded player between the 2, the choice is obvious.
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Post by Archangel on May 31, 2012 17:36:59 GMT -5
@ Pleo, I suspect there'll be plenty or time for you and Idle to hash out your opinion on his moderation of this game once the game has ended, I don't see the benefit of commenting in the game thread. Thanks for the advice on how I should improve my game, noted, I should have included some reasoning. I don't see your problem with my vote though, yes, I was a pfk when I started the case and I'm continuing it now, you can pretend all you want but guiri_v2 is fully aware of guiri_v1's motivations and intentions and you can be sure that I'm not pfk anymore. Guiri_v1 killed Lightfoot, lianne and wombat. Wasn't Lianne lynched?
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Post by dizzymrslizzy on May 31, 2012 17:54:04 GMT -5
Kagemoto This thread is full of mis-information. (bleached) [/color] First of all, this is a vote subject to change, but I will probably be unavailable for most of Friday. LadyRogue has posted semi-regularly, but most of the posts are with little substance. She did vote in all 4 Days, although the Day 1 vote was a non-vote because it was too late. However, other than the Day 3 vote for endhoot, all 3 other votes/non-vote in Days 1, 2 and 4 targeted the same player ( Dizzymrslizzy). [/quote] Actually on Day 2 she didn't cast a vote, she argued with me, but again waited until the last second and missed the end of Day for a second time even though she was around and responding to me, she never cast a vote. In fact I think the LadyRogue-Dizzymrslizzy situation is nothing much different from the Pleonast-Meeko situation in Day 1, only that it lasted 4 Days with Day 3 being a break, and that the confrontation was a quieter one with no F-bomb involved. I have a hard time understanding how a player can help Town by so focusing on such confrontation between the 2 players without looking at other players. I think it's completely different. Pleo-Meeko was some personal between the two of them. I'm trying to bust scum, and asked her some questions that she refuses to answer Day after Day and it just makes her look bad. I have no issue with her as a person. Talking about single-minded acts, Dizzymrslizzy at least looked at other players and her Day 2 vote was on lianne and not on LadyRogue. If I have to choose one single-minded player between the 2, the choice is obvious. I voted and discussed different people all of Day 1, 2, and 3. Day 1 I voted and looked at Guiri, Gadarene, and Starrirain Day 2 I voted Lianne Day 3 I voted Endhoot Day 4 is the first vote I've placed on LadyRogue, and it's only because of her lack of even wanting to discuss things in the previous Days/Nights.
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Post by dizzymrslizzy on May 31, 2012 17:58:29 GMT -5
Furthermore kagemoto I pointed out in Day 3 that I had suspicions based on voting patterns that the following players voted for confirmed town two days in a row.
Annem Archangel Jmj697nm
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Post by Archangel on May 31, 2012 18:03:37 GMT -5
OOG: I see something that indicates this game is broken to me. If I'm correct, it wasn't intentional, and I'm not pointing it out because if other people don't notice it then it's less broken, if that makes sense. (Of course I could be wrong, but pointing it out and forcing an answer to the question would break the game as well.)
I pulled one of my own games I modded on another board for inadvertently breaking the game in the same way, even though doing so literally made me cry because I'd put so much effort into designing a cool game.
I'm not saying this to cause trouble. My normal course of action would be just to leave the game but Idle (who is a friend) is having trouble finding subs and I don't want to add to the confusion. So I'm staying and to be fair to my teammates I will continue to play to win. But this bugs my own personal game ethic code, so I am personally forfeiting this game.
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Post by Archangel on May 31, 2012 18:08:22 GMT -5
Vote Gnarlycharlie
For lack of participation and not really taking a stand. I know you said you had internet problems but you and I were scum buddies once upon a time and this feels more like your scum play than your town play.
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Post by Archangel on May 31, 2012 18:23:05 GMT -5
And, my thoughts on the lynch leaders.
Texcat: I'm not getting why she's in the lead. Guiri has a case on her and since he did pretty well getting scum as PFK I'd be tempted to follow his lead, but I don't see a strong case. (To be fair, I didn't think the case on Lianne was strong either, which is why I didn't vote her, so I could well be wrong.)
Suits and Septimus appear to be voting her for the "one of you" comment which has already been addressed (and the meaning of that comment was perfectly clear to me the first time I read it). Meeko, I'm not sure why he's voting her. Meeko, I'd like to hear FROM YOU why you're voting Texcat, not other people's interpretations.
LadyRogue: The arguments against her are valid, but this could go either way. They could be correct or she could be a convenient scapegoat lynch.
Meeko: I'm not seeing the argument on him except for the people who believe that he voted for Texcat based on the "one of you" comment. All his other behavior to me just indicates incredible frustration. I feel the same way as Hal on that one; I am getting frustrated town from him.
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Post by dizzymrslizzy on May 31, 2012 18:23:31 GMT -5
Archangel I have to say, I'm very curious as to what issue you see....I hope Idle doesn't pull the game, because as my first game I'm enjoying myself quite a bit, and I want to see the game through, but as an analytical person I'm very curious as to what I've missed.
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Post by kagemoto on May 31, 2012 18:42:20 GMT -5
Kagemoto This thread is full of mis-information. (bleached) [/color] First of all, this is a vote subject to change, but I will probably be unavailable for most of Friday. LadyRogue has posted semi-regularly, but most of the posts are with little substance. She did vote in all 4 Days, although the Day 1 vote was a non-vote because it was too late. However, other than the Day 3 vote for endhoot, all 3 other votes/non-vote in Days 1, 2 and 4 targeted the same player ( Dizzymrslizzy). [/quote] Actually on Day 2 she didn't cast a vote, she argued with me, but again waited until the last second and missed the end of Day for a second time even though she was around and responding to me, she never cast a vote.[/quote] Dizzymrslizzy, my bad, you are right, I checked again and LadyRogue did not vote in Day 2. She did mention your name but did not put a vote. However I believe this is the only mis-information in my post. I'm not voting you and my post did not misquote your voting records. I do not need to list your full voting records to show that you have voted other players, so there is no need to be defensive here. As to the comparison to the Pleonast-Meeko situation, I never said that you or LadyRogue have made it personal. Also, the Pleonast-Meeko situation looks somewhat personal, but we do not know if it is truly personal, or if it is just acting personal. I don't see any mis-information here.
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Post by dizzymrslizzy on May 31, 2012 18:44:35 GMT -5
Not really defensive, just setting the record straight. I thought there were a few points that were a little bit off.
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Post by Idle Thoughts on May 31, 2012 18:47:55 GMT -5
Texcat (5)- Guiri (4), Meeko (46), Suits101 (73), septimus (106), Cassi Meeko (5)- Texcat (49), mahaloth (55), Patricia (128), Pleonast, amykb Ladyrogue (4)- dizzymrslizzy (26), Silver Jan (42), cathi (110), kagemoto Pleonast (1)- oldred (59) Wombat99 (1)- Susan K. Murphy (101) Dizzymrslizzy (1)- Ladyrogue (112) gnarlycharlie (1) - Archangel
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