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Post by Idle Thoughts on Jun 1, 2012 23:03:18 GMT -5
Everyone lynched LadyRogue. She was...
Town.
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It is now NIGHT. No voting, just talking.
Give your Night actions soon and scum decide who to kill.
Night will end on SUNDAY, at 7PM (AZ time).
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ATTENTION: ROOSH is being replaced by LADYROGUE (II). ALLYJAYNE is being replaced by Colby11 (II).
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Post by AmyKay on Jun 1, 2012 23:13:27 GMT -5
I'm not asking this for LadyRogueII to answer specifically, but to anyone out there... it makes sense that a Scum would have no final thoughts on things before being lynched, because once they were revealed as Scum, we wouldn't believe them anyway. But, if a Town is at-risk of being mis-lynched, wouldn't he/she want to at least give a final idea on who they would suggest others keep looking at? In this game, folks keep re-spawning, but theoretically, if you were at risk of being mis-lynched, shouldn't you help Town in your final moments by giving ideas?
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Post by michelehunter on Jun 1, 2012 23:14:53 GMT -5
not everyone lynched her
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Post by dizzymrslizzy on Jun 1, 2012 23:17:57 GMT -5
amykb I was practically begging her to do that tonight, as well as the last couple of Days. I wouldn't have even drawn any attention to her if she had spoken up.
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Post by Colby11 on Jun 1, 2012 23:45:36 GMT -5
If you had any ideas, it is safe to leave them. Sometimes it is better not to leave any ideas
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Post by Colby11 on Jun 1, 2012 23:55:53 GMT -5
Current Player List (numbers not accurate)
2. Pleonast 3. gnarlycharlie 4. mahaloth 5. Suburban Plankton 7. Texcat 8. CatinaSuit 9. Archangel 11. Cathi 13. jlrinmke 14. phoenixphyre 15. MHaye 19. supermel 20. kagemoto 21. dizzymrslizzy 22. crys 24. annetastic 25. wombat99 27. Silver Jan 28. Meeko 29. AmyKB 30. Septimus 32. JustBeingGinger 33. Total Ulla 34. Inner Stickler. 35. jmj697mn 36. aleetha 37. susanmurphy 38. richbeckman 39. Patricia 40. cassipietz 41. Colby11 42. guiri 43. jerelijah 45. mistde 47. Hal Briston 48. Michelehunter 50. LadyRogue 51.Starirrain 53. annem 56. Suits101 58. Paranoia 60. Oldred
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Post by Colby11 on Jun 2, 2012 0:04:33 GMT -5
42 players remain. We know for certain that at most there will be 3 kills.
I think Pleonast might be onto something with the number of scum and the night kill in Day 4. 4 scum have been killed, and it seems that there was only 2 kills last Night. So I want to say that there are 8 scum left.
About this time, I am wanting detectives to go ahead and claim tomorrow... Along with whoever I investigate...
To all the new players regarding the subs- Usually subs are not brought in this late in the game. I think Chris is just shorthanded, and people who signed up for the PR contest decided to walk out. If you like this game, feel free to keep playing.
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Post by Silver Jan on Jun 2, 2012 2:27:53 GMT -5
42 players remain. We know for certain that at most there will be 3 kills. I think Pleonast might be onto something with the number of scum and the night kill in Day 4. 4 scum have been killed, and it seems that there was only 2 kills last Night. So I want to say that there are 8 scum left. About this time, I am wanting detectives to go ahead and claim tomorrow... Along with whoever I investigate... To all the new players regarding the subs- Usually subs are not brought in this late in the game. I think Chris is just shorthanded, and people who signed up for the PR contest decided to walk out. If you like this game, feel free to keep playing. Colby, why are you claiming at Night? Haven't the docs got enough to do? All this subbing in is rather confusing but at least it keeps the game moving along. Sorry LadyRogue 1 but I really thought you were scum. I think what people wanted from you was your thoughts on who you found scummy rather than just defending yourself all the time. It usually is a new scum tell but in this case I was wrong. Can I talk to dead people if they are alive again straight away? Archangel, I do know about your memory issues, I just thought that you had come across something profound in your reading of the game that the rest of us had missed and was just concerned that you had missed Lianne's NK, thanks for explaining why you thought that the game was broken
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Post by oldred on Jun 2, 2012 4:04:15 GMT -5
ok I dont care if it is day or night ! all this subbing is driving me crazy, more questions to ask and please someone try answering this time . roosh is being replaced (yep asked about that before),allyjane is being replaced ( as I put in a post she was last around on day 2 , WTF is inner stickler doing then ...(last on in night 1 ) And I am now trying to get my head around how with subbing ...can a town killed be easily subbed as scum ? /can a scum or crazy or pfk be subbed as town ? (wouldnt they know the other scum ?)
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Post by aleetha on Jun 2, 2012 5:12:07 GMT -5
It is a mislynch. I am so sorry, LadyRouge. She had many chances in D4 to explain more. I think she could have explained better.
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Post by Silver Jan on Jun 2, 2012 5:41:39 GMT -5
ok I dont care if it is day or night ! all this subbing is driving me crazy, more questions to ask and please someone try answering this time . roosh is being replaced (yep asked about that before),allyjane is being replaced ( as I put in a post she was last around on day 2 , WTF is inner stickler doing then ...(last on in night 1 ) And I am now trying to get my head around how with subbing ...can a town killed be easily subbed as scum ? /can a scum or crazy or pfk be subbed as town ? (wouldnt they know the other scum ?) I think scum can replace scum, town can replace town, town can replace scum, pfk can replace either town or scum. Scum cannot replace Town for obvious reasons.
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Post by gnarlycharlie on Jun 2, 2012 6:11:51 GMT -5
sorry i missed EOD. still don't have much access to the net. Archangel, i don't begrudge your vote. with so many players, meta may be the way to go until the number of players is much smaller. ok I dont care if it is day or night ! all this subbing is driving me crazy, more questions to ask and please someone try answering this time . roosh is being replaced (yep asked about that before),allyjane is being replaced ( as I put in a post she was last around on day 2 , WTF is inner stickler doing then ...(last on in night 1 ) And I am now trying to get my head around how with subbing ...can a town killed be easily subbed as scum ? /can a scum or crazy or pfk be subbed as town ? (wouldnt they know the other scum ?) unfortunately, this is a very large game and the disappearance of players leaves the mod little choice but to sub in dead players. it's less chaotic in regular games. please try one after this is done.
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Post by Rich Beckman on Jun 2, 2012 7:37:38 GMT -5
I think scum can replace scum, town can replace town, town can replace scum, pfk can replace either town or scum. Scum cannot replace Town for obvious reasons. However, given the above logic, scum cannot replace scum since town will immediately know that the "new" player is scum. So, scum cannot rise again. Once dead, they are dead.
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Post by wombat99 on Jun 2, 2012 7:46:45 GMT -5
42 players remain. We know for certain that at most there will be 3 kills. I think Pleonast might be onto something with the number of scum and the night kill in Day 4. 4 scum have been killed, and it seems that there was only 2 kills last Night. So I want to say that there are 8 scum left. About this time, I am wanting detectives to go ahead and claim tomorrow... Along with whoever I investigate... To all the new players regarding the subs- Usually subs are not brought in this late in the game. I think Chris is just shorthanded, and people who signed up for the PR contest decided to walk out. If you like this game, feel free to keep playing. I was taken aback by this claim at first, but I think I see the purpose. Give the scum more targets and dilute their ability to take out PRs. Especially if they are getting one less NK now. And I agree that it is time for detectives to claim. We need something concrete to go on Tomorrow.
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Post by Hal Briston on Jun 2, 2012 7:58:18 GMT -5
DAY IS OVER IN 11 HOURS (exactly) "Oh good, that means I have until 3:00 tomorrow afternoon to vote. I can reread over breakfast and cast my vote then." Unless, of course, I'm an idiot who can't manage basic time-telling.
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Post by wombat99 on Jun 2, 2012 8:03:53 GMT -5
unfortunately, this is a very large game and the disappearance of players leaves the mod little choice but to sub in dead players. it's less chaotic in regular games. please try one after this is done. Is there such a thing as a mass mod kill? Maybe a bus could go careening off a cliff with all of the people who aren't playing, or are sorta playing but aren't really into it?
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Post by Paranoia on Jun 2, 2012 8:20:38 GMT -5
unfortunately, this is a very large game and the disappearance of players leaves the mod little choice but to sub in dead players. it's less chaotic in regular games. please try one after this is done. Is there such a thing as a mass mod kill? Maybe a bus could go careening off a cliff with all of the people who aren't playing, or are sorta playing but aren't really into it? You know this is more likely to kill off a wide scathe of town than it is to hit a decent amount of scum. Anyway I (finally) have my new computer, so I'm ready to get into things.
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Post by Silver Jan on Jun 2, 2012 9:02:48 GMT -5
I think scum can replace scum, town can replace town, town can replace scum, pfk can replace either town or scum. Scum cannot replace Town for obvious reasons. However, given the above logic, scum cannot replace scum since town will immediately know that the "new" player is scum. So, scum cannot rise again. Once dead, they are dead. Too true.
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Post by Hal Briston on Jun 2, 2012 12:19:53 GMT -5
FTR, I've found scum are as equally likely to lurk as town.
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Post by texcat on Jun 2, 2012 13:20:25 GMT -5
42 players remain. We know for certain that at most there will be 3 kills. I think Pleonast might be onto something with the number of scum and the night kill in Day 4. 4 scum have been killed, and it seems that there was only 2 kills last Night. So I want to say that there are 8 scum left. About this time, I am wanting detectives to go ahead and claim tomorrow... Along with whoever I investigate... 42! I haven't counted for myself, but this still is a huge game. I don't think that we know for certain that there will be at most 3 kills. We know for certain that there have not yet been nights with more than 3 non-guiri kills. But perhaps our doctors have been lucky. Another claim at night??? This makes even less sense than Pleo's claim.
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Post by Meeko on Jun 2, 2012 22:57:17 GMT -5
42 players remain. We know for certain that at most there will be 3 kills. I think Pleonast might be onto something with the number of scum and the night kill in Day 4. 4 scum have been killed, and it seems that there was only 2 kills last Night. So I want to say that there are 8 scum left. About this time, I am wanting detectives to go ahead and claim tomorrow... Along with whoever I investigate... To all the new players regarding the subs- Usually subs are not brought in this late in the game. I think Chris is just shorthanded, and people who signed up for the PR contest decided to walk out. If you like this game, feel free to keep playing. This pings. My brain has melted a number of times trying to get this out. 1.There is no way to know that someone stating to be a Detective is actually a Detective. 2.A scum player would claim Detective. That scum player, since he knows all other scum, can cherry pick candidates he will state he has investigated. He will of course clear his scum mates, and incriminate town. A second attempt : There is no way to confirm that a person claiming to be a Detective is an Honest Townie. That player could be Scum, he would take the guise of a Detective to posit a list of his scum mates that he """knows""" are town. And A third. I don't know if I can tell the difference between a Town Detective reporting true results and a Scum faking results so that he can claim detective and ""confirm"" scum mates as town in one fell swoop. Bonus, he can also put up town for the lynch. My god, I would like to know why my brain melts on me at the times I try compose a post like this.
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Post by Meeko on Jun 2, 2012 23:02:44 GMT -5
Someone with an un-melted brain, and better skill at Math and Game Theory // Mafia Theory should come after me and help me on this :
We ask Town Detectives to Claim ONLY if they can identify a scum.
If someone offers to be a detective, and they do not offer up a scum, we lynch the player claiming to be a detective.
.... Then simply don't claim detective, even if indeed you are one.
...... Quid Pro Quo Clarice.
((God Help me, I think I just channeled Peeker.))
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Post by Paranoia on Jun 2, 2012 23:37:35 GMT -5
Meeko, you are making exactly no sense.
A detective should claim if they have enough info to outweigh publicly revealing themselves. Yes finding scum is nice and all but Townfirms are much better, since it limits the number of players scum could be hiding it.
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Post by septimus on Jun 2, 2012 23:48:18 GMT -5
There are two or three Players likely to be up for Lynch toMorrow (unless they are cleared as Town by a Detective).
I would ask Detectives, in any event, to wait at least 20 hours or so before revealing their result. If it looks like the Lynch is heading in the right direction, you may not need to reveal at all.
Even if you end up needing to reveal later in the Day, the voting record and comments before the reveal will be informative to study. (Comments and votes in a Day that starts by Detective revealing a Scum are often useless for further scum-hunting.)
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Post by Meeko on Jun 3, 2012 12:52:17 GMT -5
Meeko, you are making exactly no sense. A detective should claim if they have enough info to outweigh publicly revealing themselves. Yes finding scum is nice and all but Townfirms are much better, since it limits the number of players scum could be hiding it. WE DON'T KNOW THAT THEY ARE ACTUALLY TOWN DETECTIVES. Try this on for size. Zotti makes a post ::
I am a detective and I investigated Opalcat, Cecil Adams, and Tuba Diva. Opal is Town, Cecil is Town, but Tuba Diva is Scum. Zotti Happens to be Scum. Opal and Cecil happen to be scum as well. Tuba Diva happens to be Town. How can town KNOW to NOT trust Zotti ?I remind you, that Zotti knows his scum mates, and therefore already knows that Tuba Diva is not a scum. Therefore, he calls all non-scum scum, and he clears his scum mates as Town.
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Post by Meeko on Jun 3, 2012 12:56:18 GMT -5
A detective should claim if they have enough info to outweigh publicly revealing themselves. . Enough information to outweigh public reveal. I address this in my "Quid Pro quo" Clarice peeker-esque comment in my second nearly NETA'ed post. I think we are in agreement on only revealing if you can more than make up for the target you have painted on your back.
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Post by Meeko on Jun 3, 2012 13:04:23 GMT -5
42 players remain. We know for certain that at most there will be 3 kills. Certain is a very, very strong word. Run this by me again?
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Post by LadyRogue-II on Jun 3, 2012 15:02:14 GMT -5
It happens, we just need to figure out who the scum are. I don't really have any ideas at this point.
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Post by Silver Jan on Jun 3, 2012 15:25:33 GMT -5
It happens, we just need to figure out who the scum are. I don't really have any ideas at this point. Me neither, seeing as you weren't scum. Does Dizzy still look scummy too you? She doesn't to me anymore. Am I the only person that understood Meeko???
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Post by Meeko on Jun 3, 2012 16:09:10 GMT -5
Am I the only person that understood Meeko???
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