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Post by Idle Thoughts on Jun 23, 2012 3:53:21 GMT -5
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Colby is now scum, replacing Mistde.
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Post by Rich Beckman on Jun 23, 2012 7:51:22 GMT -5
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Post by AmyKay on Jun 23, 2012 10:45:03 GMT -5
glad to have you, Colby. so few of us has been getting tough at Nights, IMO.
in a nutshell, going after Hal isn't working for us, so we HAVE to find that other Doctor still about.
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Post by Colby11 on Jun 23, 2012 12:22:48 GMT -5
Greetings everyone!
Who all is scum? And agreed on killing the Doctor.
Rick- you may be onto something... I say we kill Crys then. Vote Crys
I also am tempted to go after Guiri or Archangel. Both are dangerous.
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Post by Rich Beckman on Jun 23, 2012 12:43:15 GMT -5
The problem with going after Guiri is he will just swing through the revolving door and come back. He will be gleeful that it happened and he will cite his Killing as evidence that Scum consider him dangerous. Since he currently suspects Cathi and I and is solely responsible for the killing of two other Scum...
...I think it is more dangerous to Kill him than it is to leave him be.
UNLESS WE THINK HE IS THE DOCTOR!!
Guiri is my first choice once all of the inactives have been subbed for (or killed).
Remaining Scum:
richbeckman AmyKB TotalUllz Cathi Colby11
But TotalUllz has not been heard from in awhile.
I think we can win this game, but we have got to kill the Doctor so we can kill Hal. I think this is getting to a critical point.
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Post by cathi on Jun 23, 2012 14:06:15 GMT -5
Welcome, Colby. Sorry we killed you twice, hope you take it as a compliment on your play. It's getting ugly in Town! I'm down with Vote: Crys and will Vote: Dizzymrslizzy too. Funnily enough, after Hal & SilverJan, they are #2 & #3 on my "target" list. (Archangel was #1, but s/he's kind of laying low, imo.) I definitely want to leave Guiri alone (for now); not only will we get him back again anyway, but taking out 2 of the 3 votes on me might look fishy....
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Post by Idle Thoughts on Jun 23, 2012 17:10:00 GMT -5
Yes, two kills.
Crys 2 Lizzy 1
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Post by Rich Beckman on Jun 23, 2012 18:39:36 GMT -5
Colby,
Please note that you get to vote twice.
I agree that Archangel is dangerous, but I am not convinced she is beyond Lynching, though I view it as a stretch.
I think Lynching Dizzymrslizzy is very unlikely.
But I would like us to think about who else might be the Doctor just in case it is not Crys.
Vote: Crys
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Post by AmyKay on Jun 23, 2012 19:10:55 GMT -5
I'm game to vote crys, as that's a subtle catch that nobody has ever commented on. part of me has always thought Dizzy was a special power... just because she's SUPER ACTIVE as a newbie. (and, she woulda claimed Detective by now, so Doctor is the only thing left) But, that's the only thing I have to go on. I've tried to read into her posts several times and don't get anything... but that's the way a good power would be, right? And, yeah, I don't think we'll get a Dizzy lynch, though 6 people did vote for her on Day 1 and 4 on Day 4. I actually thought about trying to get a wagon started on her BECAUSE of how often she posts, thinking I'd call that a newbie Scum move. I don't have any other ideas as far as who could be a Doctor, though.
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Post by Rich Beckman on Jun 23, 2012 20:40:20 GMT -5
I felt like the thee previous Doctors, Septimus, kagemoto, and Merestil Haye all played with a bit of detachment. They were posting regularly but not frequently and almost maintained an air of observers as opposed to participants. (Which could all be my imagination).
That struck me as a smart way to play the Doctor role and that's the kind of play I've been looking for.
But of course, that is stupid of me. Even if all three did actually play the role that way, it does not follow that the fourth Doctor would do the same.
I'm certainly open to Dizzymrslizzy.
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Post by Colby11 on Jun 24, 2012 1:06:50 GMT -5
The whole Guiri is dangerous thing is what is keeping me from actually pulling the trigger. He has been laying very low, which is why I don't want to go after him.
Dizzy, I can go for...Vote Dizzy. Rick, I didn't vote for a second because I was just throwing out ideas with Guiri and archangel Anne is trying to dig a hole, to be honest. May be someone to go after the next Day.
I just hope that Hal doesn't investigate me... Kinda nervous about that, but at the same time I don't think he will.
Town players
3. gnarlycharlie 5. Suburban Plankton 8. CatinaSuit 9. Archangel 14. phoenixphyre 19. supermel 21. dizzymrslizzy 22. crys 24. annetastic 25. wombat99 27. Silver Jan- mason 28. Meeko 32. JustBeingGinger 34. Inner Stickler 36. aleetha 37. susanmurphy 39. Patricia 40. cassipietz 42. guiri 43. jerelijah 47. Hal Briston- detective 48. Michelehunter 50. LadyRogue 51. Starrirain 56. Suits101 58. Paranoia
Right now it is 26 vs 5.... With two kills apiece, I think we may have a shot.
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Post by Colby11 on Jun 24, 2012 1:18:30 GMT -5
What about Starirrain? She basically named three of you as scum... And I don't want to be here with a silent Total...
Go ahead and laugh at the joke
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Post by Rich Beckman on Jun 24, 2012 8:51:00 GMT -5
Presumably, TotalUllz would get subbed in for at some point.
I take it as a given that Cathi and I will not make it to the end.
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Post by Rich Beckman on Jun 24, 2012 8:51:47 GMT -5
Vote: dizzymrslizzy
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Post by Rich Beckman on Jun 24, 2012 9:08:37 GMT -5
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Post by AmyKay on Jun 24, 2012 12:19:09 GMT -5
another thought - Wombat's big lineup yesterDay is pretty off in some places - if we kill him, we might get some Townies thinking that who he thought was Scum is correct, tho he did give "slight scum lean" to rich and was back and forth on Cathi. At the same time, doing that so much made me think that Hal might investigate Wombat, so it could be moot to kill him.
we don't have to go with Dizzy - she was just my only guess as to another Doctor - and the only one I've been right about previously was MHaye, so I don't have the greatest track record, lol.
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Post by Rich Beckman on Jun 24, 2012 12:42:26 GMT -5
another thought - Wombat's big lineup yesterDay is pretty off in some places - if we kill him, we might get some Townies thinking that who he thought was Scum is correct, tho he did give "slight scum lean" to rich and was back and forth on Cathi. At the same time, doing that so much made me think that Hal might investigate Wombat, so it could be moot to kill him. we don't have to go with Dizzy - she was just my only guess as to another Doctor - and the only one I've been right about previously was MHaye, so I don't have the greatest track record, lol. That is good reasoning for why Wombat should be killed, but the priority has to be the Doctor. We have to kill the two most likely to be Doctor.
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Post by cathi on Jun 24, 2012 14:01:03 GMT -5
Dizzy gets me because of her activity and perceptiveness, BUT she claimed Vanilla. So if we're aiming for people who's role we don't know for sure in hopes of killing the Doctor, she's not the best choice. Do we think the Doctor is a subbed player? If yes, Wombat & JBG are my gut choices. If no, I would lean toward CIAS and then maybe Suburban & Archangel. You know, the more I think about it... Unvote: Dizzymrslizzy and Vote: Wombat99 Here's the quote who's origin I mangled last Night: May 30, 2012, 8:39am, richbeckman wrote:
That's true. We wouldn't unless it was a more obvious protection situation like protecting our confirmed masons and detective, and even then it would just be a guess. Never mind
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Post by cathi on Jun 24, 2012 14:06:55 GMT -5
Wow, that's tiny. In my post above, Rich said, "And how would we know if his protection prevented a kill or not?"
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Post by Rich Beckman on Jun 24, 2012 15:10:50 GMT -5
I am not convinced on Wombat. That conversation started with Wombat trying to get Septimus to tell us who he protected. I was arguing that such info would only be useful to Scum.
I was about to say that I do not see why a Doctor would ask such a question, but now as I type it occurs to me....
I suppose it could be Wombat was a Doctor at a loss as to who to protect and was hoping for a "suggestion" from Septimus. He couched the whole thing in an effort to discern how many kills Scum had each night, which even at the time struck me as a ridiculous waste of time and who cares? Isn't all that matters is "Who is Scum? Kill them!"?
Hmmm.
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Post by AmyKay on Jun 24, 2012 15:14:16 GMT -5
I am getting so sick of SilverJan's attitude that she's going to die every Night and then is amazed when she's alive the following Day. Not that we can focus on her for another Night or two at least, but still. Similarly, all the talk about getting stuck at lylo with only inactives is awkward... people are still choosing to sub back in, so I don't think it'll end up as "inactive" as we'd want it to be.
Interesting thought on Wombat, Cathi. Could be something worthwhile. smells like a trap, though, especially as he'd probably re-appear again. JBG is a little inactive, so I'm not sure if she'd be the Doctor... but being the Doctor right now is beyond easy - no thinking involved, just "Protect Hal," so it's next to no work to do that much once a week. CIAS could very well be a Doctor - I have no reason to think he's vanilla or not vanilla, though.
Colby, I've been kinda iffy on Starrirain. That one's got some strange things to say sometimes. Not a strong candidate for lynching, but not sure that she could be a Doctor, either.
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Post by AmyKay on Jun 24, 2012 15:33:44 GMT -5
looking at the 26-5 math, we actually have quite a bit of time left in this game. I think the Town is worried there are more of us than there really are, but not sure if that's good or bad. this estimate is based on the fact that there's only 1 Doctor remaining, so we'll hit every time unless a Doctor self-protects for some reason (I don't see any reason they'd start trying to save someone besides Hal) Day 9 will start 24-5. a mislynch would take us to 23-5. Day 10 will start 21-5. a mislynch would take us to 20-5. Day 11 will start 18-5. let's say they get one of us. Day 12 will start 16-4. a mislynch would take us to 15-4. Day 13 will start 13-4. a mislynch would take us to 12-4. Day 14 will start 10-4. let's say they get one of us. Day 15 will start 9-3 (only 1 kill per night at that point). at that point, I'm not sure how things would go, as the guessing during the Day would have to get tricky. It also depends on how many more people Hal winds up investigating before we finally can get him, and who they are. But, bare minimum, it would take another three Days, assuming we're still at 3, which may not be the case at all. That means we're currently in the very middle of the game - and I think Town believes the game is further than that already, so maybe that IS a good thing...?
yeah, I don't know if I had a point when I started doing the math, but it seems a waste to delete it now, so here you go.
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Post by AmyKay on Jun 24, 2012 15:54:39 GMT -5
and, another thought.
I don't know what Night it was from, or that we need to listen to him, but I have in my notes that Pleo did mention we (scum) shouldn't go after wombat OR dizzy during the Day. anyone remember what that was about? I tried to go back through his posts but don't see either of them now.
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Post by Rich Beckman on Jun 24, 2012 20:27:14 GMT -5
I find two posts in the Scum threads where Pleonast gives his opinion of what we should do beyond his demise: idlemafia.com/index.cgi?action=display&board=ddddds&thread=1958&page=1#95230and idlemafia.com/index.cgi?action=display&board=ddddds&thread=1953&page=1#95085The short hand is that we not kill any of the players that Pleonast cleared as town, which I agree with unless the search for the Doctor takes us there; and that we not kill non participating players. When I call up the last 100 posts of Pleonast and have the browser search for wombat and dizzy I find no instances of his telling us not to go after them. I did find at least one instance in both cases of his casting a vote to lynch them. My failure to find a given post is not a guarantee that the post does not exist.
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Post by AmyKay on Jun 24, 2012 22:33:16 GMT -5
if I can't find it and rich can't find it, I may have just put down those notes under Pleo's other advice on accident, or because it fit thematically rather than by author. sorry for the confusion, all.
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Post by Colby11 on Jun 24, 2012 22:41:05 GMT -5
No worries.
I would give advice, but I never have any good advice, so play as you have been
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Post by Rich Beckman on Jun 25, 2012 10:33:40 GMT -5
Just as a reminder the still surviving players that Pleonast "confirmed as town" are:
jerelijah michellehunter supermel Inner Stickler
Also, I am now leaning more towards Wombat than dizzymrslizzy.
Unvote: dizzymrslizzy
Vote: Wombat99
AmyKB, I think you still have a vote to cast.
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Post by AmyKay on Jun 25, 2012 12:32:20 GMT -5
yeah... I've been between Dizzy and Wombat, obviously.
So I just went back to the very beginning. Sharon was one of the early replacements (with Wombat), and kagemoto asked why she was subbed before others, like Roosh (who is now LadyRogue). well, after Idle pointed out that he can't be on top of everyone who is inactive (as there were many at the time), the curiosity died out... but, it's another point in favor of that position being a Power, so I
vote Wombat99
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Post by cathi on Jun 25, 2012 18:46:21 GMT -5
Amy, I like your observation; let's hope we get our Dr toNight. Then it's bye-bye, Hal.
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Post by Idle Thoughts on Jun 25, 2012 20:48:47 GMT -5
So crys and Wombat. Got it.
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