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Day 12.
Jul 16, 2012 6:56:52 GMT -5
Post by Idle Thoughts on Jul 16, 2012 6:56:52 GMT -5
Gnarlycharlie, Town, is dead. Archangel, Town and a DOCTOR, is dead
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It is now Day 12.
Day will end on Thursday....or if at least 12 people vote to end Day early.
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Day 12.
Jul 16, 2012 7:07:01 GMT -5
Post by dizzymrslizzy on Jul 16, 2012 7:07:01 GMT -5
Dang.....That wasn't a good thing at all. I totally get what Gnarly did. I was thinking about doing it myself, but he beat me too it. Sucks it didn't work at all
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Day 12.
Jul 16, 2012 9:11:26 GMT -5
Post by guiri on Jul 16, 2012 9:11:26 GMT -5
Farewell Archangel and Gnarly. The second death last Night indicates Archangel did successfully protect me on N10, well done! Starrirain, comments on wombat's case?
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Day 12.
Jul 16, 2012 9:26:01 GMT -5
Post by Silver Jan on Jul 16, 2012 9:26:01 GMT -5
I do wish Archangel had self protected, that way we would still have her and Hal playing but it is what it is.
I found the case on Starrirain interesting and I am looking forward to her reply. She seems to have been given a break since she came back.
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Day 12.
Jul 16, 2012 9:53:44 GMT -5
Post by Suburban Plankton on Jul 16, 2012 9:53:44 GMT -5
Good try gnarly. I never would have thought of doing that myself.
I need to apologize again for missing the end of the Day. My participation in this game has frankly sucked, and I'm not happy with myself.
And the two deaths last Night blows a big hole in the the "1 Scum Kill for every 4 Scum" theory...
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Day 12.
Jul 16, 2012 11:12:06 GMT -5
Post by supermel on Jul 16, 2012 11:12:06 GMT -5
I was not able to get back to the computer this weekend and had thought end of day was today. I am trying to be active- i had no idea a game lasted this long when i signed up and this is a tough month for me, big changes at work and major commitments on the baseball field, 7 days per week. I won't sign up again- but will finish. I likely would have not voted ginger, i was learning more towards suburban- so that likely wouldn't have helped much lol. going back to re read again from last day...
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Day 12.
Jul 16, 2012 12:19:48 GMT -5
Post by AmyKay on Jul 16, 2012 12:19:48 GMT -5
guiri, thanks for the color-coded record with the post #s and identifying the non-voters for Days 10 and 11. I don't know if that's how Gnarly intended for things to go after his claim or not - but I'm guessing not. I imagine he wanted to draw Scum attention, but with the one-kill theory, it would have bought Archangel a Night and Hal two more Nights, assuming Archangel didn't flip strategy and self-protect. In retrospect, I feel like that position probably wasn't a Doctor anyway - why would it be left inactive for so long while others were subbed in before him/her? But, again, the constant subbing is unique to this (massive) game, so there's probably not much use in trying to figure out a rhyme/reason to it. In other news, I got home early this morning after a week away, so will be more available than I was yesterDay.
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Day 12.
Jul 16, 2012 12:33:12 GMT -5
Post by Archangel on Jul 16, 2012 12:33:12 GMT -5
Damn it, I should have listened to my daughter and self-protected, she's a better mafia player than I. Sorry, Gnarly, I got half of what you were trying to do but missed the other half. Good game, guys. I will not be subbing back in as things are hairy here but I'll be watching from the bleachers.
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Day 12.
Jul 16, 2012 12:36:37 GMT -5
Post by Colby11 on Jul 16, 2012 12:36:37 GMT -5
I was not able to get back to the computer this weekend and had thought end of day was today. I am trying to be active- i had no idea a game lasted this long when i signed up and this is a tough month for me, big changes at work and major commitments on the baseball field, 7 days per week. I won't sign up again- but will finish. I likely would have not voted ginger, i was learning more towards suburban- so that likely wouldn't have helped much lol. going back to re read again from last day... This game had way too many players, so don't feel so overwhelmed that this has lasted over 2 months.or is it 3? Most games don't last this long
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Day 12.
Jul 16, 2012 12:41:15 GMT -5
Post by Colby11 on Jul 16, 2012 12:41:15 GMT -5
Updated list
5. Suburban Plankton- town by Hal 14. phoenixphyre 19. supermel 24. annetastic-town by Hal 27. Silver Jan- mason 28. Meeko 29. AmyKB 33. Total Ulla 34. Crys 36. Wombat99 37. Dizzymrslizzy 38. richbeckman 40. cassipietz 42. Guiri- town by gnarly 45. Colby11 47. Hal Briston- detective/ town by gnarly 48. Michelehunter 50. LadyRogue 51. Starrirain 56. Suits101 58. Patricia
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Day 12.
Jul 16, 2012 14:01:04 GMT -5
Post by michelehunter on Jul 16, 2012 14:01:04 GMT -5
Crap was a nice try hoping Hal has some info for us there are 21 players left 4 confirmed town and at least 2 scum with the 2 night kills, The only feeling I still have is Amykb, going to see what wombat99 was talking about.
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Day 12.
Jul 16, 2012 14:08:23 GMT -5
Post by starrirain on Jul 16, 2012 14:08:23 GMT -5
Accidentally posted this on D11 - reposting here, slightly modified (without the guiri quote because it messed up when I tried to paste.) I would normally wait and post this Tomorrow, but I'm doing it now in case Hal has not submitted his investigation request yet, and he may want to investigate her Tonight. Starrirain has not been wrong, about anything, since her reincarnation on D3. I don't just mean that she's been lucky at picking scum; I mean that every time she mentions a player, her pings later turn out to be correct; her suspicions turn out to be correct; and her votes have been correct. In EVERY case where we now know that player's alignment, starrirain's been right. Every single one. If you look at any other confirmed Town's posts - even our best, most experienced players - it is normal to mislynch, to have incorrect pings, and to suspect players who later flip Town. There is no evidence of any doubt or indecisiveness in any of starrirain's posts, except in her D1 posts when she was mislynched as Town. I submit that it is not possible for any player, especially one in their first game, to be that good unless they are scum and have all of the knowledge. If starrirain is scum and her pattern of being "correct" holds true, then Meeko is town, and richbeckman and amykb are scum. (There is more... I won't have a chance today to lay out a post-by-post case... and it's killing me! but go back and read starrirain's post chronologically. Note every time she mentions another player. You will see what I mean). I submit that it IS possible. You will all see how logical and honest I've been upon my flip. I'm glad someone finally noticed actually, maybe more people will take time to consider what I have to say?(regardless of what you think my alignment is) I like to observe things from any perspective I am able, and try to approach things with logic and reasoning. I will go ahead and squash any scum coaching theories that may come my way, as I was subbed back in Day 3. I would have had no chance to get advice from scum. I was announced dead May 12th @ 10:04 PM according to the time I can see on the boards, I'm not sure if it shows the same time for everyone. May 18th 10:29 AM was when Idle said he would start subbing in dead Town if they wanted to come back. I had been reading and developing a better understanding within that time. It was May 21st 2:09 PM (my time EST, which is one hour ahead of the time I have on the boards. this reference is b/c this interaction happened via facebook message) when Idle asked me if I was ready to come back, and then 4:11 PM, again my time he tells me I am TOWN and that Day Three had just started and to start being active from there on. This is 2 minutes after the start of Day, thus there wouldn't have been time for me to be coached, Night had already ended. When I came back, I was already suspicious of some people. There was also a lot of fresh action to analyze. I meant to reply to guiri's question about this being my first game, only I wasn't around much til closer to EoD(weekends I'm usually not near my pc much) and spent most of that time hoping to get the JBG lynch turned around. I assure you, this is my first game. D1, I really had no idea what was going on mostly, obviously. So many players, posts, and I had never even heard of this type of mafia game before Idle's contest.(this type because I have tried Mafia Wars on facebook, but nothing like this style of mafia) I read a bit of one of the mafia links that was posted, but spent more of the Day trying to stay caught up on reading and observing the way things worked all around(being mostly confused lol). After the events of D1, I felt the need to read more about mafia so I could understand what I wasn't getting. I also continued to observe the game, not even knowing at that time we would be allowed to sub in for someone. OOG I love games. My first computer was a Commodore 64. My brothers and I have played games since I can remember. I usually play RPG style games, so I found mafia interesting for so many different reasons. It should make sense to any others who love games as much as I do that one would want to see where they went wrong and get a better understanding of the game. This is how we improve ourselves as gamers. Also, my bf gets annoyed watching mysteries and the like with me b/c of my knack for figuring things out. All that being said, if enough of you are concerned, feel free to mislynch me toDay. I have no special powers, and won't have any hard feelings. I am pretty pleased with myself, not to toot my own horn, but I was able to learn way faster than I thought! But, I'd much rather lynch scum toDay, 2 NK's and no Doc means after toNight I doubt we'll have investigation results. Either way, please take into account my suspicions. As we know, Town doesn't know 100% for sure, but please keep those 2 on your radar, amykb and richbeckman , as I'm still convinced they're scum. I think there are more scum hiding, but I haven't been able to figure them out.
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Day 12.
Jul 16, 2012 14:11:36 GMT -5
Post by wombat99 on Jul 16, 2012 14:11:36 GMT -5
Suburban, Silver Jan, Guiri, Hal - since you are all vulnerable now, and you are all experienced confirmed Town, please share as much as you can Today regarding your thoughts on the remaining players and general advice on how to proceed to the end of the game.
(Even if Hal comes back with a scum investigation result, I would not want to vote to End Day until they have a chance to do this.)
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Day 12.
Jul 16, 2012 14:40:32 GMT -5
Post by wombat99 on Jul 16, 2012 14:40:32 GMT -5
Bits snipped out for response: I will go ahead and squash any scum coaching theories that may come my way, as I was subbed back in Day 3. I would have had no chance to get advice from scum. Except for every Night after that on the scum board Yes. And, again, that 100% perfect record of your pings, suspicions, and votes always being right on target. Also - I haven't compared the timing of your posts and Guiri's yet, but I suspect you piggybacked off of him. I am guessing that part of your strategy was to play off of Guiri's scum-hunting strength and "suspect" the same scum that he did. Quite clever! I believe you; which makes your record even harder to believe. Starrirain, if you are scum, well played. Very well played! If you are Town... then I. GIVE. UP.
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Day 12.
Jul 16, 2012 14:42:33 GMT -5
Post by wombat99 on Jul 16, 2012 14:42:33 GMT -5
Almost forgot!
Vote starrirain
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Day 12.
Jul 16, 2012 15:15:29 GMT -5
Post by starrirain on Jul 16, 2012 15:15:29 GMT -5
Ok sure, every Night I could have been coached, if I could see the scum boards! I was saying, look back on D3, I was already trying to make my own cases. Sure I thought guiri made several good points, but I can't recall him mentioning annem , cathi or Pleo before I had. I'm slightly offended, though I'm trying not to be, as I put in a lot of effort to learn, develop my own theories and be helpful to Town. I've not been 'piggybacking', but I can't help it if someone makes points that I agree with. The whole point is to discuss what you think and others agree or disagree accordingly and voice their thoughts. You may as well be saying anyone who agrees with another player is piggybacking. If Town snuggles aren't acceptable, I think we should have all been forewarned, but I can't help it if someone brings something to light which makes complete sense to me. Please don't give up when you find out I am Town I'll be honest to say I'm not sure that I would sub back in at this point. That piggybacking comment hurt my gamer pride. I respect your opinion, though I feel it is wrong. I really feel like I've contributed a lot on my own.
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Day 12.
Jul 16, 2012 16:27:24 GMT -5
Post by guiri on Jul 16, 2012 16:27:24 GMT -5
Sure I thought guiri made several good points, but I can't recall him mentioning annem , cathi or Pleo before I had. Nope, if anything I piggy backed on your Cathi case after I was away and there was no traction on richbeckman. I was pinged by texcat on D1, and by association richbeckman on D4, then cathi on D8, and have repeatedly voted those three for most of the game. @ wombat, if we lynch starrirain and she flips scum, would you suggest we lynch richbeckman and amy next? And if starrirain flips town, would we still lynch richbeckman and amy?
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Day 12.
Jul 16, 2012 17:37:30 GMT -5
Post by michelehunter on Jul 16, 2012 17:37:30 GMT -5
I'm more inclined to go with Amykb first but waiting to see if we get an info from Hal
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Day 12.
Jul 16, 2012 17:39:36 GMT -5
Post by dizzymrslizzy on Jul 16, 2012 17:39:36 GMT -5
Suburban, Silver Jan, Guiri, Hal - since you are all vulnerable now, and you are all experienced confirmed Town, please share as much as you can Today regarding your thoughts on the remaining players and general advice on how to proceed to the end of the game. (Even if Hal comes back with a scum investigation result, I would not want to vote to End Day until they have a chance to do this.) I would like this also from the experienced few left. How do we handle the end game? Please don't leave us to fend for ourselves! Ugh!
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Day 12.
Jul 16, 2012 17:42:26 GMT -5
Post by Suburban Plankton on Jul 16, 2012 17:42:26 GMT -5
I'm more inclined to go with Amykb first but waiting to see if we get an info from Hal Why wait? If Hal comes back and says she's Town, you can always unvote.
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Day 12.
Jul 16, 2012 17:46:26 GMT -5
Post by Suburban Plankton on Jul 16, 2012 17:46:26 GMT -5
Suburban, Silver Jan, Guiri, Hal - since you are all vulnerable now, and you are all experienced confirmed Town, please share as much as you can Today regarding your thoughts on the remaining players and general advice on how to proceed to the end of the game. I'll admit that I'm pretty much at a loss this game; I haven't paid close enough attention, what with all of the comings and goings and coming-back-agains...I will be looking over my notes that I've spent the best part of the weekend getting up to date, in hopes that something sticks out at me. As for end-game strategy: I don't particularly have any. Just keep doing whatever it is that you've been doing up 'til now. Incidentally, that goes equally well for Scum as for town; you've managed to stay alive this long, so you must be doing something right...no reason to stop doing that now
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Day 12.
Jul 16, 2012 18:00:05 GMT -5
Post by michelehunter on Jul 16, 2012 18:00:05 GMT -5
I'm more inclined to go with Amykb first but waiting to see if we get an info from Hal Why wait? If Hal comes back and says she's Town, you can always unvote. True I can and I will but I will not be on much tomorrow (95 degrees and a pool waiting) and Thursday is my anniversary 15 blessed years with my best friend. Vote Amykb
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Day 12.
Jul 16, 2012 18:12:40 GMT -5
Post by Rich Beckman on Jul 16, 2012 18:12:40 GMT -5
Really, Wombat? You're going with Starrirain? Starrirain has to rank as the most aggressively pro Town player in this game. I just read through her posts, and the only evidence of Scum I could find is: <snip> I died and came back Vanilla if anyone is curious (the subbing makes mah brain melt trying to keep up with) so I totally get others' confusion there. Old me was only around for D1 and new me came back in D3. Which would qualify as an unforced claim, which may or may not be evidence of Scum. Against that you have a solid record of aggressively hunting Scum. Coached? She shows as much or more of her work than anyone else here. That's some hellacious coaching. If Starrirain is Scum... then I. GIVE. UP.
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Day 12.
Jul 16, 2012 19:41:39 GMT -5
Post by Meeko on Jul 16, 2012 19:41:39 GMT -5
Vote Total Ulla
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Day 12.
Jul 16, 2012 19:47:20 GMT -5
Post by Meeko on Jul 16, 2012 19:47:20 GMT -5
If you are Town... then I. GIVE. UP. And to think, you are going this sideways in a straight forward easy set up. What will really bake your noodle later on, is wondering how sideways games that start off sideways will get you.
Did I mention that we need to play a game of Haggle with the Packrat folks? I did? Just checking.
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Day 12.
Jul 16, 2012 20:06:25 GMT -5
Post by dizzymrslizzy on Jul 16, 2012 20:06:25 GMT -5
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Day 12.
Jul 16, 2012 20:46:34 GMT -5
Post by Idle Thoughts on Jul 16, 2012 20:46:34 GMT -5
starrirain - 1 vote (wombat99) Amykb - 1 vote (michelehunter) Total Ulla - 1 vote (Meeko)
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Day 12.
Jul 16, 2012 21:00:35 GMT -5
Post by Colby11 on Jul 16, 2012 21:00:35 GMT -5
Meeko
I know that you are voting for Total for not being active, but why vote for her now?
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Day 12.
Jul 16, 2012 23:05:50 GMT -5
Post by starrirain on Jul 16, 2012 23:05:50 GMT -5
Question for the masses. I found the time to look over some things (or someone), one big post, or a few smallerish posts? Time I get some tips on self expression. I'm hoping with time I will be able to express myself in fewer words, but it's not happening yet
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Day 12.
Jul 16, 2012 23:14:49 GMT -5
Post by Rich Beckman on Jul 16, 2012 23:14:49 GMT -5
Starrirain, for myself, I have no problem with what you have been doing (in terms of your post lengths!). Since your posts tend to length, they add variety to the large number that tend to brevity.
I would argue you should post in whatever manner is most comfortable for you.
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