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Day 13
Jul 21, 2012 18:43:17 GMT -5
Post by Idle Thoughts on Jul 21, 2012 18:43:17 GMT -5
Hal Briston, TOWN and a DETECTIVE, is dead. Guiri, TOWN, is dead.
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And now it's Day. Day will end on Thursday at 11am.
Or if 10 people vote for end of Day.
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Day 13
Jul 21, 2012 18:59:47 GMT -5
Post by michelehunter on Jul 21, 2012 18:59:47 GMT -5
Thanks Hal for all you've done sorry they got you last night Ok townies do we vote for Starrirain or Amykb? I will be gone all day tomorrow tis my grandson's birthday but will check back in the late evening
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Day 13
Jul 21, 2012 19:01:01 GMT -5
Post by Colby11 on Jul 21, 2012 19:01:01 GMT -5
Wrong post
Updated list- Day 13
5. Suburban Plankton- town by Hal 14. phoenixphyre 19. supermel 24. annetastic-town by Hal 27. Silver Jan- mason 28. Meeko 29. AmyKB 33. Total Ulla 34. Crys 36. Wombat99 37. Dizzymrslizzy 40. cassipietz 45. Colby11 48. Michelehunter 50. LadyRogue 51. Starrirain 56. Suits101 58. Patricia
Players left- 17
Because I haven't tackled this- what would cause the kills to decrease? Obviously it isn't number of scum, because if it was, we wouldn't have 2 kills after 9 scum are dead.
So the kills aren't based on that.....
Maybe it's based on the state of the game somehow? Suburban plankton and Meeko- since you two are more experienced than I am, do you guys have any idea?
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Day 13
Jul 21, 2012 19:44:46 GMT -5
Post by AmyKay on Jul 21, 2012 19:44:46 GMT -5
well, I vote Starrirain
I’m guessing at this point that she has nobody left to bus, and I was just a good candidate to try convincing others of because of my mistake on Colby2 back on Day 5. After that, she made those WOW posts to pick apart just about every action I’ve made (and yet calls me the one who is always smudging others). I’m tired of getting dragged through the mud and having to spend all of my play time defending myself instead of working on scum hunting. Maybe she’s about the only one left, which will make finding her accomplices that much harder, but with Hal gone and no definite answers anymore, I’m not willing to take the risk of letting her live. If she's been so dead-on ever since her reincarnation, why haven't the Scum killed her? I can't stop asking that question... If she flips Scum, I imagine you all will lynch me tomorrow anyway, assuming she's been bussing me. If she flips Town, then please give me some more consideration, because if the Scum are still taking out two people a Night, we don't have that much more time.
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Day 13
Jul 21, 2012 20:04:20 GMT -5
Post by annetastic on Jul 21, 2012 20:04:20 GMT -5
wont be on line much for next couple of days got a busy schedule but as I said in Night 12 I will vote starrirain just in case we have a fast play Day 13
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Day 13
Jul 21, 2012 20:05:08 GMT -5
Post by annetastic on Jul 21, 2012 20:05:08 GMT -5
Oh and sorry Hal we are going to miss you ....
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Day 13
Jul 21, 2012 20:11:22 GMT -5
Post by Suburban Plankton on Jul 21, 2012 20:11:22 GMT -5
Wrong post Updated list- Day 13 5. Suburban Plankton- town by Hal 14. phoenixphyre 19. supermel 24. annetastic-town by Hal 27. Silver Jan- mason 28. Meeko 29. AmyKB 33. Total Ulla 34. Crys 36. Wombat99 37. Dizzymrslizzy 40. cassipietz 45. Colby11 48. Michelehunter 50. LadyRogue 51. Starrirain 56. Suits101 58. Patricia Players left- 17 Because I haven't tackled this- what would cause the kills to decrease? Obviously it isn't number of scum, because if it was, we wouldn't have 2 kills after 9 scum are dead. So the kills aren't based on that..... Maybe it's based on the state of the game somehow? Suburban plankton and Meeko- since you two are more experienced than I am, do you guys have any idea? No idea here. I had bought into the idea that the Scum started with 3 kills and lost one with every 4 deaths, because that held true through Night 10. But the last 2 Nights have had 2 kills again, so that theory is out the window. Night 1: 4 deaths, 1 by guiri, 3 by Scum Night 2: 4 deaths, 1 by guiri, 3 by Scum Night 3: 3 deaths, 1 by guiri, 2 by Scum Night 4: 2 deaths, 2 by Scum (guiri killed on Night 3) Night 5: 2 deaths Night 6: 1 death Night 7: 2 deaths Night 8: 2 deaths Night 9: 2 deaths Night 10: 1 death Night 11: 2 deaths Night 12: 2 deaths We know that Archangel protected Hal on Night 6, and guiri on Night 10, so I assume that explains the 'missing' kills those Nights. So what happened between Nights 2 and 3, when the Scum lost a kill? Mason Gadarene was killed on Night 2 Doctor Septimus was killed on Night 2 Crazy Townie michelehunter was killed on Night 2 Scum lianne was killed (by guiri) on Night 2 Scum lauriem was killed (by Crazy Townie michelehunter) on Day 3 Scum endhoot was lynched on Day 3 It seems that the number of Night Kills is not directly related to the number of Scum in the game, or at least if it is the relationship is not linear. After losing 4 Scum, they lost 1 kill. But they have now lost another 5 Scum, and they have not lost another kill. It doesn't seem to be related to the existence, or loss, of Town powers, as the Scum didn't lose any kills after the Town lost a second Mason, Doctor, or Crazy Townie. The only thing I can think of is the fact that michelehunter killed a Scum with her 'power'. It's possible the loss of a kill was a 'punishment' for the Scum, which explains why there was no loss when Crazy Townie colby11 killed ascime (a fellow Townie). But I think that's stretching things a bit... As to what the actual mechanism is...I'm afraid I'm at a loss. I do think we need to assume there will be 2 kills per Night until that turns out not to be the case.
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Day 13
Jul 21, 2012 22:50:07 GMT -5
Post by Hal Briston on Jul 21, 2012 22:50:07 GMT -5
Take it to 'em, town!
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Day 13
Jul 21, 2012 23:55:52 GMT -5
Post by Meeko on Jul 21, 2012 23:55:52 GMT -5
Maybe it's based on the state of the game somehow? Suburban plankton and Meeko- since you two are more experienced than I am, do you guys have any idea? I was all set to make a comment on the order of "This game has gone on for so long, that I can't begin to guess" But I think that's the exact reason it's still going on with 2 kills. That is to say, I think it's simply a matter of taking a "normal" game and putting in a multiplier. There was the implication that this game would not take longer than a normal game. [[I'm not sure where we are with that, personally]] BUT if we take this at face value, and start with 60 players.... to a "normal" 25-30 count, it could simply mean that if 2 is the multiple, that each scum has 2 night kills. This could mean that we have one scum left. . . . 25 players could have 5 scum. I think my Zoo game had math close to this. Of course, we need to remember that if the game is blanced with Jsexton, we need to account for all the roles and their weight. 25 in 5 is a multiple of 5. 60 / 5 is 12..... If we have 9 dead it would mean 3 scum left. I highly doubt this on a knee jerk reaction level*. 60 / 6 is 10. This would be a lot closer to what I think is going on. *We need to be guarded here. If non-active players are scum, AND if scum need to be present to put in night kills.....
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Day 13
Jul 21, 2012 23:57:10 GMT -5
Post by Meeko on Jul 21, 2012 23:57:10 GMT -5
Or if 10 people vote for end of Day. The math of this makes me wonder if I wasn't dead on..... That there are 10 scum in this game, and that we only have one scum left.
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Day 13
Jul 22, 2012 0:04:46 GMT -5
Post by Meeko on Jul 22, 2012 0:04:46 GMT -5
NETA :
Obviously, if each scum had 2 night kills...... the game would more than likely already have been over.
I think that perhaps, each instance of a Night Kill has been doubled.
Regardless I still think we are at one scum left.
Vote Starrirain
We owe it to Hal.
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Day 13
Jul 22, 2012 0:10:03 GMT -5
Post by Meeko on Jul 22, 2012 0:10:03 GMT -5
Annetastic Suburban
If you guys have anything to say, today would be the day.....
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Day 13
Jul 22, 2012 0:24:41 GMT -5
Post by Colby11 on Jul 22, 2012 0:24:41 GMT -5
AnnetasticSuburbanIf you guys have anything to say, today would be the day..... Why not add Silver Jan to that list? She is practically confirmed
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Day 13
Jul 22, 2012 0:29:20 GMT -5
Post by Colby11 on Jul 22, 2012 0:29:20 GMT -5
I think looking at what triggers the scum kills will take us forever to figure out (cause most likely the Mod wants them to end this game one way or another) so let us look at today
Already Star and Amy have votes, and they were the top vote getters yesterday before Hal's announcement (we miss you already Hal). I am going to reread yesterday as well as a few of the last days and be back with thoughts/comments/etc.
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Day 13
Jul 22, 2012 9:01:07 GMT -5
Post by michelehunter on Jul 22, 2012 9:01:07 GMT -5
I think looking at what triggers the scum kills will take us forever to figure out (cause most likely the Mod wants them to end this game one way or another) so let us look at today Already Star and Amy have votes, and they were the top vote getters yesterday before Hal's announcement (we miss you already Hal). I am going to reread yesterday as well as a few of the last days and be back with thoughts/comments/etc. I must be missing the vote for Amykb, but do find it interesting that she was the first to vote to Star
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Day 13
Jul 22, 2012 9:41:36 GMT -5
Post by Colby11 on Jul 22, 2012 9:41:36 GMT -5
I think looking at what triggers the scum kills will take us forever to figure out (cause most likely the Mod wants them to end this game one way or another) so let us look at today Already Star and Amy have votes, and they were the top vote getters yesterday before Hal's announcement (we miss you already Hal). I am going to reread yesterday as well as a few of the last days and be back with thoughts/comments/etc. I must be missing the vote for Amykb, but do find it interesting that she was the first to vote to Star Apparently I made it up But those two were the top vote getters yesterday.
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Day 13
Jul 22, 2012 10:44:35 GMT -5
Post by dizzymrslizzy on Jul 22, 2012 10:44:35 GMT -5
[quote author=michelehunter board=mara thread=1995 post=96592 time=1342965667 I must be missing the vote for Amykb, but do find it interesting that she was the first to vote to Star [/quote] I do too. I'm going to continue on my feelings from yesterDay Vote: AmykbOn a side note Hal can you come back as our last inactive! Pur-itty please!
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Day 13
Jul 22, 2012 12:55:07 GMT -5
Post by Idle Thoughts on Jul 22, 2012 12:55:07 GMT -5
Starrirain - 3 votes (Amykb, Annetastic, Meeko) Amykb - 1 vote (dizzymrslizzy)
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Day 13
Jul 22, 2012 13:28:17 GMT -5
Post by wombat99 on Jul 22, 2012 13:28:17 GMT -5
Vote StarrirainI agree with Dizzy - we have at least one inactive slot to fill (probably 2 since Suits101 hasn't been back) Guiri, Hal, Gnarlycharlie... ? This bunny is waving at you to come back... I would be fine with an AmyKB lynch, also. Once we know AmyKB's alignment, we will have a sense of the extent to which Starrirain was bussing her scummates. There is one other player that "pinged" her as scum - Colby11 on Day10 #96 - and if AmyKB flips scum, it might make sense to look at Colby next. (I have no other reason to think Colby is scum, just Starrirain's ping).
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Day 13
Jul 22, 2012 13:30:08 GMT -5
Post by wombat99 on Jul 22, 2012 13:30:08 GMT -5
NETA: But first things first, let's make sure Starrirain is scum first.
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Day 13
Jul 22, 2012 19:49:20 GMT -5
Post by Meeko on Jul 22, 2012 19:49:20 GMT -5
NETA: But first things first, let's make sure Starrirain is scum first. How do you suggest we do this, exactly?
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Post by crys on Jul 22, 2012 20:18:16 GMT -5
Or there are 2 scum left amykb and starrain. Working together to gain the other town cred
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Day 13
Jul 22, 2012 22:54:22 GMT -5
Post by michelehunter on Jul 22, 2012 22:54:22 GMT -5
Or there are 2 scum left amykb and starrain. Working together to gain the other town cred Sent from my SCH-I405 using ProBoards They are both suspects Crys and have been for a few days now I'm fine with either one Vote StarrirainI am leaving Friday for a 2 week vacation but will have some internet access.
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Day 13
Jul 23, 2012 4:24:35 GMT -5
Post by Idle Thoughts on Jul 23, 2012 4:24:35 GMT -5
Starrirain - 5 votes (Amykb, Annetastic, Meeko, wombat99, michelehunter) Amykb - 1 vote (dizzymrslizzy)
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Day 13
Jul 23, 2012 7:20:15 GMT -5
Post by supermel on Jul 23, 2012 7:20:15 GMT -5
vote starrian
Hal had deep suspicions so I will go with this for today...
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Day 13
Jul 23, 2012 9:05:30 GMT -5
Post by wombat99 on Jul 23, 2012 9:05:30 GMT -5
NETA: But first things first, let's make sure Starrirain is scum first. How do you suggest we do this, exactly? By lynching her and having her alignment revealed. I feel like you're asking another question here but I'm missing it.
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Day 13
Jul 23, 2012 9:21:13 GMT -5
Post by Meeko on Jul 23, 2012 9:21:13 GMT -5
NETA: But first things first, let's make sure Starrirain is scum first.
How do you suggest we do this, exactly? By lynching her and having her alignment revealed. I feel like you're asking another question here but I'm missing it. The answer you gave screams "Last things last" to me. There is no longer route to take to find out Starrirain's alignment than a Mod Reveal.
You were suggesting, dare I say much more than that, demanding that Town inherently just " Know " things that Town could not know. Things that Scum would know. Things that Scum slipping on PIS would know even more. Things that a Wombat would know even more? I just feel that you were overly eager to say "Lets make sure Starirain is Scum FIRST." Then, you offer that the only way to do this, is to do the LAST thing with her that we can do. You want us to be extremely careful, leaping then looking. PINGS. Thats Pings with a capital PINGS.
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Day 13
Jul 23, 2012 9:24:35 GMT -5
Post by Meeko on Jul 23, 2012 9:24:35 GMT -5
Or there are 2 scum left amykb and starrain. Working together to gain the other town cred Sent from my SCH-I405 using ProBoards Crys if you are stating that Starrirain AND AmyKb are both scum, and "working together", are you suggesting that each of them have one night kill each? If they each have only one night kill, it would seem to me that they are equal in power to each other. Would there be any reason, therefore, to vote AmyKb over Starrirain? If there isn't, is there a reason to not vote Starrirain?
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Day 13
Jul 23, 2012 9:34:13 GMT -5
Post by Idle Thoughts on Jul 23, 2012 9:34:13 GMT -5
ATTENTION: HAL BRISTON IS NOW SUBBING IN FOR TOTAL ULLA.
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Day 13
Jul 23, 2012 9:42:11 GMT -5
Post by annetastic on Jul 23, 2012 9:42:11 GMT -5
AnnetasticSuburbanIf you guys have anything to say, today would be the day..... I already voted Meeko as I was not sure when I could get on line again over the weekend and the rest of the week I am decorating as my hubby is away working for a week (he can't complain if he's not here lol) I am not sure what to think of Starrirain there are arguments for and against her but Hal seems to think she was scum and I am going with his feelings on this. As for Amykb I have not really looked into her posts but will be doing later ... also I have not noticed a lot of posts from patricia - Cassipiets or total ulla lately either. I will try to come on the boards daily but not sure if I will make it but will try my best as it is now getting close to finishing.
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