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Day 14
Jul 29, 2012 0:08:09 GMT -5
Post by Idle Thoughts on Jul 29, 2012 0:08:09 GMT -5
Suburban Plankton, Town, is dead. Silver Jan, Town and a MASON, is dead.
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Day again.
Day will end on Wednesday at 11pm ....or, if at least 9 people vote for End Day Early.
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Day 14
Jul 29, 2012 1:29:18 GMT -5
Post by Silver Jan on Jul 29, 2012 1:29:18 GMT -5
It's not really surprising Thanks for a great game Idle and good luck Town.
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Day 14
Jul 29, 2012 6:41:13 GMT -5
Post by annetastic on Jul 29, 2012 6:41:13 GMT -5
sorry to loose you two .. my vote is going on amykb after starrirain insisted she was scum and seemed to be better at this game than I am.
Vote: Amykb
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Day 14
Jul 29, 2012 11:58:13 GMT -5
Post by Suburban Plankton on Jul 29, 2012 11:58:13 GMT -5
Awww...bummer... I guess I'll see you in the spoiler thread, Jan
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Day 14
Jul 29, 2012 16:08:44 GMT -5
Post by Archangel on Jul 29, 2012 16:08:44 GMT -5
I think with Idle's permission I am snubbing for Michele? Never got spoiler and I have time again now
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Day 14
Jul 29, 2012 17:57:10 GMT -5
Post by Colby11 on Jul 29, 2012 17:57:10 GMT -5
I think with Idle's permission I am snubbing for Michele? Never got spoiler and I have time again now Welcome back Archangel!
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Day 14
Jul 29, 2012 17:59:54 GMT -5
Post by Colby11 on Jul 29, 2012 17:59:54 GMT -5
Updated list- Night 13
14. phoenixphyre 19. supermel 24. annetastic-town by Hal1 28. Meeko 29. AmyKB 33. Hal2 34. Crys 36. Wombat99 37. Dizzymrslizzy 40. cassipietz 45. Colby11 48. Michelehunter/ Archangel 50. LadyRogue 56. Suits101 58. Patricia
Players left- 15
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Day 14
Jul 29, 2012 18:46:16 GMT -5
Post by Colby11 on Jul 29, 2012 18:46:16 GMT -5
Off topic I am going to be hosting a new game, in case anyone is interested, over on the LPP board. The theme? Hell's Kitchen. www.lppmafia.proboards.com/index.cgiIf you rare interested, feel free to sign up. I don't plan on starting the game immediately
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Day 14
Jul 29, 2012 18:47:50 GMT -5
Post by Colby11 on Jul 29, 2012 18:47:50 GMT -5
Honestly didn't have a lot of time to build a case on wombat, will compose a case later. I also will withhold my vote until doing so
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Day 14
Jul 29, 2012 20:05:51 GMT -5
Post by wombat99 on Jul 29, 2012 20:05:51 GMT -5
Honestly didn't have a lot of time to build a case on wombat, will compose a case later. I also will withhold my vote until doing so Seeing as I'm Town, I can save you some time and suggest that you build a case on someone else. If your case against me is the fact that I made a case against Starrirain, then I still say it was a reasonable case and obviously other players agreed with me. If you have anything else against me, then point it out and I'll do my best to explain my intentions and motivations.
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Day 14
Jul 29, 2012 20:31:41 GMT -5
Post by Idle Thoughts on Jul 29, 2012 20:31:41 GMT -5
I think with Idle's permission I am snubbing for Michele? Never got spoiler and I have time again now Oops, yes. I forgot. ARCHANGEL IS NOW SUBBED IN FOR MICHELE.
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Day 14
Jul 29, 2012 20:32:22 GMT -5
Post by Idle Thoughts on Jul 29, 2012 20:32:22 GMT -5
AmyKB - 1 vote (annetastic)
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Day 14
Jul 29, 2012 22:27:42 GMT -5
Post by dizzymrslizzy on Jul 29, 2012 22:27:42 GMT -5
Can someone give me a breakdown of who voted for Starriran? I think that's where we should start today. I'm still getting a scum lean from AmyKB, but I think there might be something on those who voted Star!
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Day 14
Jul 29, 2012 22:35:34 GMT -5
Post by Colby11 on Jul 29, 2012 22:35:34 GMT -5
Starrirain - 9 votes (Amykb, Annetastic, Meeko, wombat99, michelehunter, supermel, Hal Briston, LadyRogue, Cassiepietz, patricia) Amykb - 7 votes (dizzymrslizzy, starrirain, colby11, Silver Jan, PhoenixPhyre, Suburban Plankton, patricia) DAY ENDS IN THREE HOURS Last vote count, for Dizzy
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Day 14
Jul 29, 2012 22:53:31 GMT -5
Post by dizzymrslizzy on Jul 29, 2012 22:53:31 GMT -5
Thanks Colby! My internet time has been cut drastically lately! I appreciate it since I'm trying to do 10 things at once right now!
Very interesting list IMO.
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Day 14
Jul 29, 2012 22:53:51 GMT -5
Post by AmyKay on Jul 29, 2012 22:53:51 GMT -5
picking up where I left off last Night, I looked through Phoenix’s history. Day 1: suspicious of dizzy1 without specifics and voted for Oldred because giggling pinged. That was the only vote on Oldred and was made before a true lynch candidate really stuck out. Day 2 starts with a vote for Ed based on his “protesting” when he demonstrated how he could be read for being helpful. About 43 hours later, she votes wombat1, agreeing with supermel’s point of wombat1 saying on Day 1 that “at least” one townie would die that Night, being info Town was not yet aware of. Soon afterward, she edited her "proper vote" post (needing to unvote and then re-vote) three minutes after posting, explaining that it published before she was done, and that all she did was add more. BUT, what part did she “add” ? Here is the bleached quote, May 18th at 1:05am: I would guess she added from “And maybe…” to follow her earlier train of thought. So, it's probably nothing, but worth noting because SilverJan tells her not to edit for any reason, and she later deletes a post. Day 3 she was wondering why Mahaloth confirmed SilverJan as a mason, as that stuck out like “shoot me, shoot me” to her. [noting because she often asks about game mechanics.] Day 5 she says she didn’t vote the previous Day because she didn’t know who to vote for. She explains that roles “coming out” make the game easier to understand and that she’s trying. (or lurking, I would say.) She doesn't actually vote Day 5. Day 6 is one post, voting Annem. Day 7 she explains that she’s getting into the game and is making charts and looking severely at Pleo and votes him. She then posts “could I also ask how the whole Doctor thing works?” and, upon getting a response, asks for clarification, “does the doctor know who is being attacked, get a list of possible targets, or do they just submit a name?” Later, CIAS asks her to post her own reasoning on Pleo, which is below: sure CatInASuit..be glad to. Mind you this is all way way after the fact and hindsight is mostly 20/20. I went back to see how some of the most pointed to people had voted. Pleonast claimed to be a detective, but looking back on his votes it seemed his votes were all over the place, he did not vote (skipped maybe) voting for endhoot, and I think the votes for texcat and Annem were necessary if he was going to keep up appearances. Otherwise how would he explain not voting for scum, when a pretty much confirmed detective pointed them out. I kind of compared them to some others to see if everyone is all over the place, and I found that mostly not to be the case. However, as I said, I was not sure how detectives worked, nor how doctors worked, and I thought perhaps a detective had to throw names out and deduce from responses who may be scum. It NEVER occurred to me that detectives could just ASK! So feeling not at all confident in my deductions I kept silent last night. Besides, if he was a detective, why was he not pointing out people like Hal. People said he was looking at lurkers, well ok, surely one lurker out there may be scum, but days past and no confirmed name came from him at all. All in all it just "felt" wrong. As for my votes, that is easy, simple cluelessness. The first few days I pretty much listened to the pack thinking "these folks have played before and have some idea how this all works, I will try follow them until I figure it out"...and as you can see I was not too successful. Then I went with what Hal said. Finally, for two days I simply had no clue who to vote for, so rather then vote for someone and maybe add to a mislynch I did not vote. Looking at your votes, I see you only voted for two of the alleged scum, so should I deduce from that that you are trying to avoid voting for scum when you can? Frankly I don't know, and that was how I felt about Pleonast...But you pick someone to vote for and that is that...you are not voting and changing and voting and changing, which is pretty much what I saw from Pleo. Does any of this hold water, I don't know that either, but it made sense (in retrospective 20/20) to me. two things in particular stick out to me here: “The first few days I pretty much listened to the pack thinking "these folks have played before…” which isn’t what she did. Day 1 she voted Oldred all by herself and Day 2 she followed SuperMel, who wasn’t an experienced player. “But you pick someone to vote for and that is that...you are not voting and changing and voting and changing…” she didn’t do it over and over, but she did switch her vote on Day 2. Wombat questions Phoenix and Phoenix reiterates following the crowd, not learning about Mafia elsewhere so that’s why she questions powers. In a later post she votes Patricia for not being as confused as she about the mechanics of the game. Day 9 is a re-vote for Patricia, same reasons. Day 10, she votes Suburban because he missed Hal’s confirmation, though admits she doesn’t have a frontrunner. She also suspects Cathi, for the reasons that I laid out that Day. Day 11, she accidentally posts in Day 10 but deletes it and re-posts it in Day 11. After being told not to do that. I don't have reason to believe that she changed the post at all, but I don't see why she deleted the accident one - other people have mis-posted on Days a few times. After the FoS comes her way (in general, not for this per se), she admits to late voting because she had no frontrunner. She wonders why Cathi would admit to skimming if it’s a scum tell, still questions Suburban, and says she’ll be reading what others do for a while. Shortly afterward, she is wary of Wombat for knowing about scum tells and for pointing toward and away from Suburban. She kinda retracts this later when a few people point out that scum tells have been discussed. Later, she thinks that she has “mis-voted way too many times” and is waiting to vote until more comments come in from others. She later notes that she sees the cases on JBG and rich, and both sides of the supermel case, then votes JBG mainly for not voting multiple times. Day 13, she votes for me (I didn't see a reason) then wonders about Michele2 (now Archangel2; for voting star over me when she had a history of being suspicious of me) and Hal2. - - - - so, here's what I take away: 1) what she did on the first few Days and what she later said she did aren't the same thing. 2) she didn't vote for 2 Days but votes JBG for not voting (albeit, JBG missed more than that). 3) she edited one post and deleted another. 4) I don't care so much that she asked about powers late, but between that and not picking up on "scum tells" being discussed more than once, it seems a little "skimmy" to me. 5) She admits to being wrong to vote for Patricia for being a good newbie, but is suspicious of Wombat for partly the same reason. 6) the repeated "I'm waiting to see what others do" rubs me a little weirdly after so much time. Consider this a big FoS. No vote yet because a)I want to look at Crys because he hasn't played much lately and b)I feel like, with 9/15 players subbed at this point, it's likely there's Scum there, and Phoenix is not a sub, so perhaps not the best candidate right now.
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Day 14
Jul 29, 2012 22:58:00 GMT -5
Post by Colby11 on Jul 29, 2012 22:58:00 GMT -5
Colby's case against Wombat
Night 11- makes his initial case against Star The problem that I have with this is while his thoughts and intentions are good, why not hold it until the next Day if Star was scum? True, he was night killed in life number 1, which may be why he felt the need to express his thoughts.
Rereading just his posts- I feel like he is town.
So now it boils down to: should we continue to go after Amy, knowing that Star was town, or should we start from scratch?
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Day 14
Jul 29, 2012 23:42:36 GMT -5
Post by wombat99 on Jul 29, 2012 23:42:36 GMT -5
Colby's case against Wombat Night 11- makes his initial case against Star The problem that I have with this is while his thoughts and intentions are good, why not hold it until the next Day if Star was scum? True, he was night killed in life number 1, which may be why he felt the need to express his thoughts. Rereading just his posts- I feel like he is town. So now it boils down to: should we continue to go after Amy, knowing that Star was town, or should we start from scratch? Did you miss what I posted here to start off my case against Starrirain, which was the basis of your suspicion of me? It looks to me like you didn't even read what I wrote about Starrirain, and instead just jumped on the fact that I am drawing heat now for leading the mislynch against her. I would normally wait and post this Tomorrow, but I'm doing it now in case Hal has not submitted his investigation request yet, and he may want to investigate her Tonight. I knew that it was likely that Detective Hal only had one more Night to live and that he might want to use his last investigation on Starrirain (and he said he almost switched and investigated her instead of richbeckman). As to your other question - personally I'm starting from scratch; I only suspected AmyKB based on the assumption that Starrirain was scum, so I've got no idea who I'll vote for Today. (p.s. - I'm a girl )
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Day 14
Jul 30, 2012 1:53:03 GMT -5
Post by Colby11 on Jul 30, 2012 1:53:03 GMT -5
Colby's case against Wombat Night 11- makes his initial case against Star The problem that I have with this is while his thoughts and intentions are good, why not hold it until the next Day if Star was scum? True, he was night killed in life number 1, which may be why he felt the need to express his thoughts. Rereading just his posts- I feel like he is town. So now it boils down to: should we continue to go after Amy, knowing that Star was town, or should we start from scratch? Did you miss what I posted here to start off my case against Starrirain, which was the basis of your suspicion of me? It looks to me like you didn't even read what I wrote about Starrirain, and instead just jumped on the fact that I am drawing heat now for leading the mislynch against her. I would normally wait and post this Tomorrow, but I'm doing it now in case Hal has not submitted his investigation request yet, and he may want to investigate her Tonight. I knew that it was likely that Detective Hal only had one more Night to live and that he might want to use his last investigation on Starrirain (and he said he almost switched and investigated her instead of richbeckman). As to your other question - personally I'm starting from scratch; I only suspected AmyKB based on the assumption that Starrirain was scum, so I've got no idea who I'll vote for Today. (p.s. - I'm a girl ) Well, apparently I am not able to read effectively anymore..... Bedtime... And apologies for messing up the gender... Not the first time, won't be the last
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Day 14
Jul 30, 2012 4:22:09 GMT -5
Post by phoenixphyre on Jul 30, 2012 4:22:09 GMT -5
AmyKaynow that I read your post I agree with you it looks like a mess, but truth is it's just a very new Town, who really never got the time to look at other games much, I looked up the rules and regs but a lot never made sense. As I have said, I never heard of this game, or any game like it, until Idle brought me into it. I really was/am amazed that Patricia "got" the nuances of the game much faster then I did. I am still working on that. I admit I am pretty clueless about voting, and sadly, and admittedly voted a lot of Town off. What can I say?! Here is an honest example of how slow at this I am...I have been wondering why I was never voted off, in fact not even mentioned much...and then it dawned on me, why would SCUM vote me off when I am seemingly doing their job for them. It took me until 4 days ago to come to that realization. After that I felt no vote was safer then a wrong vote again. And another truth, I did not know, in the beginning, that you could "skip" a vote. In many ways I feel like that player that no one really wants of their team, but someone has to have me cause it's the way we do things. I have tried throughout to explain my actions. My first vote my first day, well I had no idea how you pick someone nor why... and that holds true for the first few days, so I tried to follow what others were doing. I did make lists, and go over votes, and NOTHING as in NOT A THING stood out enough for me to say...YES THAT PERSON IS SCUM. No gut feeling, no ah-ha moment, no nothing. So I went with "reasonable doubt" when I could, and nothing when I couldn't. I am just a newbie Town tripping on her own feet, but doing the best she can. Look as hard as you want, that is all you will ever find. As for the edited posts, the first "edit" was just an addition to what i had said before, and if someone told me not to do that I apologize, but I did not see it. The second one I accidentally posted on the the wrong day ( the day before as I was answering something from that day ), and I guess I should have left it there and reported it as well but I didn't, and again I am sorry.
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Day 14
Jul 30, 2012 17:45:04 GMT -5
Post by Colby11 on Jul 30, 2012 17:45:04 GMT -5
Cricket cricket
Well for the time being, I am going to go through everyone who is still here.... But I am going to vote for Patricia, simply for their late switch at the end, which didn't really affect the outcome, and finalized the Star lynch.
Vote Patricia
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Post by crys on Jul 30, 2012 18:21:47 GMT -5
picking up where I left off last Night, I looked through Phoenix�s history. Day 1: suspicious of dizzy1 without specifics and voted for Oldred because giggling pinged. That was the only vote on Oldred and was made before a true lynch candidate really stuck out. Day 2 starts with a vote for Ed based on his �protesting� when he demonstrated how he could be read for being helpful. About 43 hours later, she votes wombat1, agreeing with supermel�s point of wombat1 saying on Day 1 that �at least� one townie would die that Night, being info Town was not yet aware of. Soon afterward, she edited her "proper vote" post (needing to unvote and then re-vote) three minutes after posting, explaining that it published before she was done, and that all she did was add more. BUT, what part did she �add� ? Here is the bleached quote, May 18th at 1:05am: I would guess she added from �And maybe�� to follow her earlier train of thought. So, it's probably nothing, but worth noting because SilverJan tells her not to edit for any reason, and she later deletes a post. Day 3 she was wondering why Mahaloth confirmed SilverJan as a mason, as that stuck out like �shoot me, shoot me� to her. [noting because she often asks about game mechanics.] Day 5 she says she didn�t vote the previous Day because she didn�t know who to vote for. She explains that roles �coming out� make the game easier to understand and that she�s trying. (or lurking, I would say.) She doesn't actually vote Day 5. Day 6 is one post, voting Annem. Day 7 she explains that she�s getting into the game and is making charts and looking severely at Pleo and votes him. She then posts �could I also ask how the whole Doctor thing works?� and, upon getting a response, asks for clarification, �does the doctor know who is being attacked, get a list of possible targets, or do they just submit a name?� Later, CIAS asks her to post her own reasoning on Pleo, which is below: sure CatInASuit..be glad to. Mind you this is all way way after the fact and hindsight is mostly 20/20. I went back to see how some of the most pointed to people had voted. Pleonast claimed to be a detective, but looking back on his votes it seemed his votes were all over the place, he did not vote (skipped maybe) voting for endhoot, and I think the votes for texcat and Annem were necessary if he was going to keep up appearances. Otherwise how would he explain not voting for scum, when a pretty much confirmed detective pointed them out. I kind of compared them to some others to see if everyone is all over the place, and I found that mostly not to be the case. However, as I said, I was not sure how detectives worked, nor how doctors worked, and I thought perhaps a detective had to throw names out and deduce from responses who may be scum. It NEVER occurred to me that detectives could just ASK! So feeling not at all confident in my deductions I kept silent last night. Besides, if he was a detective, why was he not pointing out people like Hal. People said he was looking at lurkers, well ok, surely one lurker out there may be scum, but days past and no confirmed name came from him at all. All in all it just "felt" wrong. As for my votes, that is easy, simple cluelessness. The first few days I pretty much listened to the pack thinking "these folks have played before and have some idea how this all works, I will try follow them until I figure it out"...and as you can see I was not too successful. Then I went with what Hal said. Finally, for two days I simply had no clue who to vote for, so rather then vote for someone and maybe add to a mislynch I did not vote. Looking at your votes, I see you only voted for two of the alleged scum, so should I deduce from that that you are trying to avoid voting for scum when you can? Frankly I don't know, and that was how I felt about Pleonast...But you pick someone to vote for and that is that...you are not voting and changing and voting and changing, which is pretty much what I saw from Pleo. Does any of this hold water, I don't know that either, but it made sense (in retrospective 20/20) to me. two things in particular stick out to me here: �The first few days I pretty much listened to the pack thinking "these folks have played before�� which isn�t what she did. Day 1 she voted Oldred all by herself and Day 2 she followed SuperMel, who wasn�t an experienced player. �But you pick someone to vote for and that is that...you are not voting and changing and voting and changing�� she didn�t do it over and over, but she did switch her vote on Day 2. Wombat questions Phoenix and Phoenix reiterates following the crowd, not learning about Mafia elsewhere so that�s why she questions powers. In a later post she votes Patricia for not being as confused as she about the mechanics of the game. Day 9 is a re-vote for Patricia, same reasons. Day 10, she votes Suburban because he missed Hal�s confirmation, though admits she doesn�t have a frontrunner. She also suspects Cathi, for the reasons that I laid out that Day. Day 11, she accidentally posts in Day 10 but deletes it and re-posts it in Day 11. After being told not to do that. I don't have reason to believe that she changed the post at all, but I don't see why she deleted the accident one - other people have mis-posted on Days a few times. After the FoS comes her way (in general, not for this per se), she admits to late voting because she had no frontrunner. She wonders why Cathi would admit to skimming if it�s a scum tell, still questions Suburban, and says she�ll be reading what others do for a while. Shortly afterward, she is wary of Wombat for knowing about scum tells and for pointing toward and away from Suburban. She kinda retracts this later when a few people point out that scum tells have been discussed. Later, she thinks that she has �mis-voted way too many times� and is waiting to vote until more comments come in from others. She later notes that she sees the cases on JBG and rich, and both sides of the supermel case, then votes JBG mainly for not voting multiple times. Day 13, she votes for me (I didn't see a reason) then wonders about Michele2 (now Archangel2; for voting star over me when she had a history of being suspicious of me) and Hal2. - - - - so, here's what I take away: 1) what she did on the first few Days and what she later said she did aren't the same thing. 2) she didn't vote for 2 Days but votes JBG for not voting (albeit, JBG missed more than that). 3) she edited one post and deleted another. 4) I don't care so much that she asked about powers late, but between that and not picking up on "scum tells" being discussed more than once, it seems a little "skimmy" to me. 5) She admits to being wrong to vote for Patricia for being a good newbie, but is suspicious of Wombat for partly the same reason. 6) the repeated "I'm waiting to see what others do" rubs me a little weirdly after so much time. Consider this a big FoS. No vote yet because a)I want to look at Crys because he hasn't played much lately and b)I feel like, with 9/15 players subbed at this point, it's likely there's Scum there, and Phoenix is not a sub, so perhaps not the best candidate right now. Feel free to take a look at me lol. Again I'm vanilla town. I haven't played much because my sister recently had a hysterectomy and until yesterday I had my nieces here. Chasing after a 2 year old cut into my playing time. As of right now I am at a loss on who to vote for. I'm off tomorrow so I plan on rereading the past couple of days to get back up to speed Sent from my SCH-I405 using ProBoards
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Day 14
Jul 31, 2012 2:06:15 GMT -5
Post by annetastic on Jul 31, 2012 2:06:15 GMT -5
AmyKB - 1 vote (annetastic) am I missing a page of posts somewhere from Day 14 as I have not seen Amykb's post to vote for me ..... also isn't it a scum tell to vote for a confirmed town player ?
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Day 14
Jul 31, 2012 2:10:43 GMT -5
Post by annetastic on Jul 31, 2012 2:10:43 GMT -5
Neta sorry I found amys post my pc only loaded the bottom half of the page ...
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Day 14
Jul 31, 2012 3:12:30 GMT -5
Post by annetastic on Jul 31, 2012 3:12:30 GMT -5
ignore my last two posts I must be half asleep I read Idles post wrong and though Amykb voted me instead of the other way round ..... blonde moment even though I'm grey lol
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Day 14
Jul 31, 2012 9:35:38 GMT -5
Post by Colby11 on Jul 31, 2012 9:35:38 GMT -5
ignore my last two posts I must be half asleep I read Idles post wrong and though Amykb voted me instead of the other way round ..... blonde moment even though I'm grey lol Rule of thumb- never post when you are halfway asleep... It has the real possibility of getting you lynched....
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Day 14
Jul 31, 2012 12:35:22 GMT -5
Post by wombat99 on Jul 31, 2012 12:35:22 GMT -5
@ Archangel - you were suspicious of michelehunter earlier because of her bandwagon vote on JBG and said you were going to look at her if JBG flipped town: Note also that JBG picked up on the possible scum slip. <FONT style="FONT-SIZE: 12px">
ROFLOL look all you want I am a mere vanilla town. Sorry JBG you don't like my vote but oh well too bad so sad. I think voting for the top TOWN lynch was much better than voting for a confirmed TOWN NO?
How do you know I am town? You say "Voting for top town lynch".Top Town lynch meaning the town was lynching you NOT THAT YOU ARE TOWN. Now that you've subbed for michelehunter - any comments on your earlier suspicion and her possible scum slip?
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Day 14
Jul 31, 2012 13:21:53 GMT -5
Post by wombat99 on Jul 31, 2012 13:21:53 GMT -5
AmyKB, I don't know if you're Town, or you're scum-bussing your teammate, but you laid out a nice case against Phoenixphyre and it reminded me that I had a case against her on Day9 also: phoenixphyre: She's been totally under the radar and has a very low number of posts (17). I'm thinking scum because of this post on Day7 *after* Pleo's impending lynch was revealed: ok I finally decided it was time to figure this game out, right! So I started making charts and tables and looking at what people write and do...and I wrote this whole thing at night about Pleo, and if Pleo was a detective why we were not being given names like we were from Hal...folks kept saying "looking into lurkers" and I am thinking ...ok something else about the game I just don't know/understand yet. So I kept quiet. I also looked at Pleo's votes, and compared them to other's votes, and mine, and something just did not add up. But again I am new (sorry not an excuse, but I am still feeling my way and that is just the truth) so I chalked it up to just not knowing enough...but now I find my "radar" if you will was not that far off base, and maybe (I said maybe) I am getting the hang-feel of this. At least I hope so. I am sure you all do too. Anyway for all that, and for Hal (thank you thank you) Vote: Pleonast , Vote: End of daySo, after the fact, she's saying she had Pleo all figured out but just didn't mention it. And these posts from Day7: could I also ask how the whole Doctor thing works? snipped - However, as I said, I was not sure how detectives worked, nor how doctors worked, and I thought perhaps a detective had to throw names out and deduce from responses who may be scum. It NEVER occurred to me that detectives could just ASK! phoenixphyre, please don't take this the wrong way, but I find it hard to believe that a Townie could get to Day7 and not know how Detectives and Doctors work. I think it's more likely that you're scum and you haven't needed to pay attention to the Detectives and Doctors, or Town power roles at all, because you've been focused on who to NK - possibly just following the lead of other scum. I'm considering changing my vote to phoenixphyre but I want to look at some more players first. So... here's my thinking. Either Phoenixphyre is (as she says) a helpless, clueless noob; even after 3 months of playing this game, little has soaked in; she is reading, taking notes, making lists, yet - poor Phoenixphyre just isn't getting it. It's soooo hard! Or She's putting on a good show and she's a lying scum. I also noticed that she signed up for the game Pollux is hosting after this. So maybe she isn't as helpless and clueless as she appears? Maybe it's fun and something she'd want to do again? Would she want to go through another mafia game that might not be so newbie-friendly if she still had so little idea of the game play mechanics? Seriously - not realizing that a sub ( Hal v.2) could be Town or scum and their previous alignment means nothing? On Day13? My mind - it is boggled.
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Day 14
Jul 31, 2012 14:52:42 GMT -5
Post by AmyKay on Jul 31, 2012 14:52:42 GMT -5
So... here's my thinking. Either Phoenixphyre is (as she says) a helpless, clueless noob; even after 3 months of playing this game, little has soaked in; she is reading, taking notes, making lists, yet - poor Phoenixphyre just isn't getting it. It's soooo hard! Or She's putting on a good show and she's a lying scum. I also noticed that she signed up for the game Pollux is hosting after this. So maybe she isn't as helpless and clueless as she appears? Maybe it's fun and something she'd want to do again? Would she want to go through another mafia game that might not be so newbie-friendly if she still had so little idea of the game play mechanics? Seriously - not realizing that a sub ( Hal v.2) could be Town or scum and their previous alignment means nothing? On Day13? My mind - it is boggled. a big thanks for reiterating that case, wombat. In going through some history I saw that nobody had ever voted for phoenix, but had forgotten your post from several days back. Especially the low-post count (she's now up to 37, but the next lowest for an active first-timer is cassipietz's 57, and she missed five days being away, not lurking). Reading phoenix's reply to my case on her, there's not much there besides "I'm new." But, you're right - we've been in this game for a LONG time now, and most people (IMO) have improved. The nail in the coffin, methinks, is your OOG/meta point that phoenix wants to play again, in a much more complicated game... so one would figure she understood the basics as well as some strategy. I took a look at when she signed up - very recently, after playing this game for 12 Days. I think you could be right that she's playing the newbie angle a little more than is true... Scum or not. also, Crys, I'm sorry to hear that you've had a lot going on right now and wish your family well.
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Day 14
Jul 31, 2012 15:47:27 GMT -5
Post by phoenixphyre on Jul 31, 2012 15:47:27 GMT -5
Well I think I have learned a lot about the game. Here are some things I have learned. You can ask questions, and nice people actually answer them. In spite of not getting a good feel on whom to vote for I am having fun playing, which is the purpose of a game isn't it? I have learned some new terminology, and watched some interesting twists and turns. As for the next game, even if it is hard and different, it is still a game. If you don't like my way of playing, hope I am not on your side.
Now, this is what I see, two SCUM, AMYKB AND WOMBAT99, teaming up to kill another TOWN...ME.
Even a ...what did you call me... "helpless clueless noob" like me can see through all that. I have no doubt everyone else can too. TOWN didn't vote me out, because I am just as I say.
Wombat99, you have come after me before but turned to juicer morsels...Amykb...you are trying hard to get the heat off of you.
The only question is...which SCUM to kill first. I wish i could vote for both of you...so here is what I am going to do.
Attention TOWN I think they are both SCUM..help me pick (kill) one, and then help me kill the other!
P.S. I have tried to play chess all my life, and still have not mastered that either. But I still play!
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