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Post by Pollux Oil on Sept 26, 2012 12:23:42 GMT -5
The residents of the space station are awoken by a terrible rendition of "She's Comin' Round The Mountain" playing loudly over the station speakers. It continues on a loop until, one by one, all the players have gathered in the central lobby, bleary-eyed and numb-mouthed. Nobody looks particularly happy to be awake this early. The screen fizzles to life. Pollux's face fills the screen, and he's smiling like he's been awake for hours.
"Gooooood morning everyone! It's a brand new Day on the space station! How's everybody doing? Good? Wow, it seems like a few of you didn't get any rest last Night. What have you all been up to? Hey, hey! No need to gesture rudely at me, I'm sorry that the Gastards have blessed me with the ability to never, ever, EVER need sleep!"
Pollux silently mouths 'help me' to the group before continuing, still smiling.
"Sooooooo now it's the beginning of the second Day! I'd suggest you all take a headcount, because I think some of you might be misssssing! Or dead. Possibly missing AND dead. Toodles!"
The screen went blank. After a quick, panicked headcount, it was determined that Pollux was right. They were one member short. Who had bitten the dust in the evening? Well, it was obvious to everyone already. Someone fairly prominent in the first Day wasn't with the group. They rushed to his room, unsure of what they'd find.
The first person to get to the room immediately turned away and threw up. peekercpa's body was a mess. It seemed he had been frozen and shattered into many, many pieces. His decapitated head lay on the bed, his brain melting out his ears. Whatever had happened to him last Night, it wasn't pretty. And he was definitely dead.
peekercpa, aka Deadpool (Third-Party Serial Annoyer) is really, really, really, certainly dead.
Everyone else seemed okay on the outside. With another member down, the players turned to each other. Who would they lynch today? It was time to find out.
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Day Two begins now. Day Two ends Tuesday, October 2 at 1 PM EDT.
Mercenary bids for Night Two are closed.
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Post by peekercpa on Sept 26, 2012 12:31:26 GMT -5
i demand a recount.
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Post by Meeko on Sept 26, 2012 12:31:40 GMT -5
I"m guessing we won't be getting any more information as to what an annoyer is.
I mean, it sucks that the mod decided to just list peeker's traits, and not that of his role.
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Post by Rich Beckman on Sept 26, 2012 12:46:10 GMT -5
I"m guessing we won't be getting any more information as to what an annoyer is. I mean, it sucks that the mod decided to just list peeker's traits, and not that of his role. :-) Be careful, Meeko. The percentage of your posts that I understand is going up. And no, I doubt the explanation is that I am getting smarter. I know nothing. And less everyday. I would really like to know what a Third-Party Serial Annoyer is. Does it mean anything that peeker "anticipated" this? kid if i am still alive tomorrow morning we can talk about this in additional depth. but i will say this i do not have two pms.
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Post by gnarlycharlie on Sept 26, 2012 12:46:09 GMT -5
I"m guessing we won't be getting any more information as to what an annoyer is. I mean, it sucks that the mod decided to just list peeker's traits, and not that of his role. :-) i think we still have one more.
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Post by Rich Beckman on Sept 26, 2012 12:48:12 GMT -5
If his posts were supposed to be annoying, he was playing the role badly.
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Post by Rich Beckman on Sept 26, 2012 12:51:13 GMT -5
Meeko,
I think you owe gnarlycharlie an apology for vomiting on his pants.
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Post by Rich Beckman on Sept 26, 2012 12:52:51 GMT -5
I"m guessing we won't be getting any more information as to what an annoyer is. I mean, it sucks that the mod decided to just list peeker's traits, and not that of his role. :-) i think we still have one more. Is that a claim? Care to elaborate?
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Post by Sister Coyote on Sept 26, 2012 12:58:13 GMT -5
I'm not charlie, but I think he was teasing Meeko about also being a serial annoyer. Possibly.
I find that there was only one death to be intriguing but not enough to try to predict what that might mean for other nights.
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Post by ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies on Sept 26, 2012 12:59:41 GMT -5
I think that response to KidV was Peeker knowing that his ass was hanging out with a little magic bag tied to it as of Dawn on Day 1, which also would have made him a strange choice for a scum kill since anyone with their ass hanging out and/or in possession of a magic bag who isn't scum is bound to preoccupy people and provide the scum more cover.
Preemptive terminology disclaimer - A 'magic bag' is evidence that a player is not a powerless Vanilla.
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Post by Rich Beckman on Sept 26, 2012 13:01:45 GMT -5
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Post by Pollux Oil on Sept 26, 2012 13:12:41 GMT -5
As a future note to everyone:
I may or may not have a bunch of PMs to send out at Dawn every Day. I'll usually attempt to get them all out by a half-hour after Dawn is posted so don't panic if you don't get something immediately. If a full 24 hours goes by and you don't get a PM but you think you should have, let me know. There are 29 (27 now) people playing, so I may have missed you. My brain likes to go off in other-ooh a kitten!
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Post by Inner Stickler on Sept 26, 2012 13:13:05 GMT -5
The description of his body and the number of reallys in the purple text put me in mind of a nexus ability.
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Post by Silver Jan on Sept 26, 2012 13:15:46 GMT -5
That's three 3rd Parties so far, I have never played in a game where there was more than 2. I wonder if "annoyer" is the Mods way of telling us he was hostile?
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Post by gnarlycharlie on Sept 26, 2012 13:37:22 GMT -5
I'm not charlie, but I think he was teasing Meeko about also being a serial annoyer. Possibly. I find that there was only one death to be intriguing but not enough to try to predict what that might mean for other nights. SisC is a sharp one.
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Post by guiri on Sept 26, 2012 13:44:45 GMT -5
On a very quick skim, this post caught my eye. Can't quote properly. KidV What about Pleo? Your 180 makes a little less sense knowing you have a chance to kill him toNight. Under what circumstances do you think a kill is better than an investigation? Instead of killing a player, KidV should do a full investigation of a player of their own choice. Your push for KidV is way too bloodthirsty for town. unvote sinjin vote guiri It wasn't a question of investigation or kill, he said he didn't see a good reason to kill someone but he would if there was a really good reason. KidV said: I won't be killing anybody unless I see a really good reason, if that's what you're asking, and I don't currently see a good reason. He'd previously argued why we should lynch you asap, rather than letting you live to prove your claim, despite the loss of voting data and the missed chance to catch scum - a pretty good reason to kill someone. When is a kill better than an investigation? When there's a claimed non-town who's the main focus of attention and there are reasons to doubt the claim - a vig kill puts an end to the issue so town can focus on hunting scum. The description of his body and the number of reallys in the purple text put me in mind of a nexus ability. What's a nexus ability? Is it related to his body being frozen? I would really like to know what a Third-Party Serial Annoyer is. I was "Serial Pest" in the Scooby-Doo game, maybe it's related to Peeker's role: Did anyone else stub their toe on the door this morning?
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Post by Meeko on Sept 26, 2012 13:48:24 GMT -5
The description of his body and the number of reallys in the purple text put me in mind of a nexus ability. I was debating asking if there were states of being dead other than really really really et al, but yeah a nexus could do this. Guess by its definition, a nexus is not long for any game it is in. Seeing as how,it has everything happen to it, right?
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Post by Inner Stickler on Sept 26, 2012 13:54:11 GMT -5
What's a nexus ability? Is it related to his body being frozen? Redirecting all actions to one player. It's rarely a good choice to target oneself with it unless one is very very sure a doctor is going to act that night.
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Post by Rich Beckman on Sept 26, 2012 14:06:36 GMT -5
The description of his body and the number of reallys in the purple text put me in mind of a nexus ability. I was debating asking if there were states of being dead other than really really really et al, but yeah a nexus could do this. Guess by its definition, a nexus is not long for any game it is in. Seeing as how,it has everything happen to it, right? In the role descriptions guiri so graciously provided... www.idlemafia.com/index.cgi?action=display&board=poll&thread=2037&page=4#97477...the Chia Bingo Manager, upon obtaining bingo, can gain the power to bring one player back from the dead. Perhaps the "really, really, really, certainly dead" line indicates that no one will be bringing peeker back. What are the odds that the description of peeker's remains is a pointer to the killer (seems like it would be to me)? So presumably, when whoever killed peeker kills again, the body will be in a similar condition. Also, what is "nexus ability"?
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Post by Pleonast on Sept 26, 2012 14:24:40 GMT -5
My possible targets last Night were JustBeingGinger (0 posts), BillMc (6 posts), gnarlycharlie (9 posts), storyteller0910 (10 posts), Red Skeezix (10 posts), Sister Coyote (10 posts). So that we can see how they all react to being a possible investigation target, I won't reveal my result until ToNight. Yep, you sure don't want town to get any investigations from me, do you? Lol, yeah, because it's so hard to stay out of the bottom 20% of posters. Lord knows you can find me there all the time . Way to redirect, Pleo. I guess that's all you can do, you certainly can't substantively argue with anything I said in that post. We can't put stock in anything you say. You're smart enough to know this, and I'm certainly smart enough to know you know this . All you've got at this point is rhetoric and innuendo, and that's not an argument. I said you lynched yourself when you claimed, and that's 100% true. I don't know if you didn't think it through or just hoped that we wouldn't think it through, but you messed up either way. If you really are non-hostile, then you've messed Town up as well. I was referring to you wanting to prevent town from using any results from me. By continuing to discount non-hostile third parties, you're cutting off a source of help for the town. We recently had a game where town screwed itself by going after third parties instead of scum and you want to repeat that. Town will only mess things up if they follow your lead. peekercpa, aka Deadpool (Third-Party Serial Annoyer) is really, really, really, certainly dead. What was the designation?On a very quick skim, this post caught my eye. Under what circumstances do you think a kill is better than an investigation? Instead of killing a player, KidV should do a full investigation of a player of their own choice. Your push for KidV is way too bloodthirsty for town. unvote sinjin vote guiri It wasn't a question of investigation or kill, he said he didn't see a good reason to kill someone but he would if there was a really good reason. KidV said:He'd previously argued why we should lynch you asap, rather than letting you live to prove your claim, despite the loss of voting data and the missed chance to catch scum - a pretty good reason to kill someone. When is a kill better than an investigation? When there's a claimed non-town who's the main focus of attention and there are reasons to doubt the claim - a vig kill puts an end to the issue so town can focus on hunting scum. That's a good answer. unvote guiri~ ~ ~ ~ ~ I'm tempted to vote sinjin again for the same reason I did YesterDay, but I hold off for a bit to see how things develop ToDay.
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Post by KidVermicious on Sept 26, 2012 14:53:49 GMT -5
I was referring to you wanting to prevent town from using any results from me. By continuing to discount non-hostile third parties, you're cutting off a source of help for the town. We recently had a game where town screwed itself by going after third parties instead of scum and you want to repeat that. Town will only mess things up if they follow your lead. You're right, I am. You have no incentive to help Town that we can trust, ergo we can't trust any help you might offer. You're a loose cannon. I'm not suggesting that we GO AFTER YOU... indeed, I'm suggesting the opposite, that we STOP arguing about you and move onto other things. I'll be voting for you at EOD today if I can't find a scum target I like better, and I hope others feel the same way. If you'd like to help hunt scum, that'll be great, but please stop arguing that we should be trusting you and your benevolent motives. Ain't gonna happen.
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Post by Meeko on Sept 26, 2012 14:55:19 GMT -5
Sure. I still count three really s .
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Post by Sister Coyote on Sept 26, 2012 15:16:07 GMT -5
The description of his body and the number of reallys in the purple text put me in mind of a nexus ability. There was such a power in one of the recent games -- Hallowe'en, maybe? -- where the person who used the (one-shot) ability did not have to use it on themselves but could designate another person as the nexus target. That said, though, given Deadpool's reality, fourth-wall-breaking tendencies, and the fact that he never seems to quite die in the comic book, it could just be color. Did anyone else stub their toe on the door this morning? Not I, said the little brown coyote.
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Post by Pleonast on Sept 26, 2012 15:18:29 GMT -5
If you'd like to help hunt scum, that'll be great, but please stop arguing that we should be trusting you and your benevolent motives. Ain't gonna happen. If you'd read what I've been writing, you'd have noticed that I'm not asking anyone to trust me. I'm saying that 1) it's a mislynch to lynch me and a miskill to kill me, and 2) town would be stupid to disregard my investigations.
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Post by Inner Stickler on Sept 26, 2012 15:20:04 GMT -5
1) I agree with for now. 2) When you post an investigation, I'll give it all the regards it deserves but they don't come on credit.
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Post by KidVermicious on Sept 26, 2012 15:27:54 GMT -5
I've read what you're writing, Pleo, and you haven't made sense yet. I think you're not reading what I've been writing, or more likely, you're being intentionally obtuse in order to drag this out.
I'll lay this out for you one more time, and then I'm done with it (again). We can't trust you because we don't know your wincon, and if we can't trust you we can't trust your results, and if we can't trust your results and we don't know that you're not going to steal a win then not only are you not useful to us but you're actually threatening, and must eventually be lynched or NKd. You aren't Town and don't have Town's wincon, ergo it isn't a mislynch, no matter how much you or anybody else declares otherwise. If this was an open game where we knew what roles were out there and what their wincons were and could KNOW that you were non-hostile, you're right, it'd be a mislynch. But that isn't the case, so until Pollux or somebody we can trust announces that your wincon really is nonhostile, you're a threat. Threats get lynched.
You put Town in this position, Pleo. To expect us to do anything other than lynch you after you stood on a table and declared that we can't trust you is absurd.
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Post by Suburban Plankton on Sept 26, 2012 15:32:34 GMT -5
Did anyone else stub their toe on the door this morning? I dropped a hammer on my toe a couple of weekends ago, but it's feeling much better now. And if you're referring to 'in-game' toes...no. As far as I'm aware I am in perfect health. peeker's head was frozen shattered into many, many pieces decapitated and his brain was melted While that's certainly enough to render anyone "really, really, really, certainly dead", I wonder if it's also an indication that more than one hand was involved, which might lend some credence to the Nexus idea. A question we need to ask ourselves is "How much of the color in this game is just for show, and how much of it actually has meaning?" Being that this has been advertised as a Gastard game, I imagine the answer to that question could be anywhere from "all" to "none"...which isn't really much help, is it?
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Post by Inner Stickler on Sept 26, 2012 15:38:43 GMT -5
If town's wincon were to lynch anyone who doesn't have town's wincon then yes, a nonhostile third party, as pleo claims he is, would not be a mislynch although it would be paradoxical.
But lynching a third party as opposed to a PFK is demonstrably and quantifiably a mislynch. Town neither gains nor loses with the lynch of a third party but since scum so rarely misNK a failure to move forward on town's part is equivalent to half a step back once the scum have made their NK.
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Post by Suburban Plankton on Sept 26, 2012 15:51:04 GMT -5
If town's wincon were to lynch anyone who doesn't have town's wincon then yes, a nonhostile third party, as pleo claims he is, would not be a mislynch although it would be paradoxical. But lynching a third party as opposed to a PFK is demonstrably and quantifiably a mislynch. Town neither gains nor loses with the lynch of a third party but since scum so rarely misNK a failure to move forward on town's part is equivalent to half a step back once the scum have made their NK. If we knew that Pleonast was Nonhostile, then his lynch would unarguably be a mislynch. If we knew that Pleo was Hostile, then his lynch would certainly not be a mislynch. The question is: what if we only know that he is "non-Town", and nothing else? I would argue that his lynch is 'less bad' than the lynch of someone who is not known to be "non-Town", all other things being equal. And his lynch is 'more bad' than someone who is "likely Scum", again with all other things being equal. The purpose of this Day is to try to determine if all other things are equal.
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Post by Colby11 on Sept 26, 2012 15:58:33 GMT -5
Question to KidV- did you investigate anyone last night, or did you kill Peeker?
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