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Post by KidVermicious on Oct 2, 2012 16:06:24 GMT -5
Peeker!
You got some s'plainin' to do, pleeze?
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Post by crys on Oct 2, 2012 16:07:18 GMT -5
Actually, the reason I'm asking pleo about the vote counts is that I'm not 100% convinced guiri was offed by a Day killer. I think it's the most likely of the options, but if he was -- as claimed -- the winner of the Merc maybe he tied Pleo for votes, too. Which I would assume is a possibility. I mean anything in this game is possible it seems. I will tell you I am non hostile 3rd party and I would love to work with town rather than against them. However I am pretty sure I cannot be recruited because my pm didn't say anything about it. Oog I am at the drs office right now waiting to see if I have to be referred to a surgeon. I will check back in later. Sent from my SCH-I405 using proboards
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Post by ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies on Oct 2, 2012 16:07:29 GMT -5
I also think claimed Merc bidding is a null tell. But bidding high on the Merc sure as shit increases your chances of being pressured for a claim, especially if you're going to expose the bid. And Docs have no business increasing the likelyhood that they might have to claim, especially on Day 2. That is where I find fault with Guiri's play as the Town Doc. I think it was reckless and based on the information at hand it was Guiri's choices (to bid high and say so) that had the most influence on bringing about his end.
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Post by Inner Stickler on Oct 2, 2012 16:08:32 GMT -5
It would certainly make it easier if town never made a play for it. Keep all the votes during the day at 1 and let the bids lynch scum.
I dunno. It's a strange mechanic and I generally feel town is hesitant. Bidding 13 votes or 8 votes for it when it's rare we have a lynch that's much past 10? That's more ballsy than I would expect.
Because Pleo had more information in the open than guiri did and he doesn't wait, as a general rule until the last possible moment to spring revelations on town. I like to reward good behavior.
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Post by Inner Stickler on Oct 2, 2012 16:10:03 GMT -5
And you still haven't explained how winning the merc bid being a null tell means we must save the winner at all costs?
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Post by Pollux Oil on Oct 2, 2012 16:16:02 GMT -5
Oh Moddly mod of Moddiness -- can you please clarify something:
Do the vote counts only reflect the winning bid on the Lynch candidate if said candidate is the Lynch leader? As was already sort-of answered by Inner, any votes received because of the Mercenary bid will only be reflected in the final vote count if the person who won is lynched. Any other time, they will remain secret.
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Post by ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies on Oct 2, 2012 16:27:55 GMT -5
If he shows up this question will be moot, but I wonder if Peeker isn't actually restored to extent that he can again participate in the game? Maybe he's now a zombie or whatever that counts toward some faction's numbers and win condition.
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Post by Suburban Plankton on Oct 2, 2012 16:46:21 GMT -5
guiri reported that he was cursed last Night.
guiri was killed mysteriously Today.
There may or may not be a causal connection between those two occurrences.
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Post by Parzival on Oct 2, 2012 16:47:30 GMT -5
Once again the mercenary screws us, this time worse than ever.
What pisses me off here, and I'm not trying to yell at guiri since he's gone but, yes, I am, a little bit: Why on earth, when you're already the Doctor, the one power role that does not have to breadcrumb anything, that just needs to stay away from getting killed or mislynched and with good luck by midgame can keep confirmed Townies around a little longer, why on earth would you even bid for the mercenary?
Relying on magic powers is not going to win this game. I really doubt it. Even if we do have a lot of Third Parties, it's still our job to discuss, examine, look at the record and figure out who's really a threat and who's hiding helpful information.
storyteller, doesn't guiri's bid bother you more than one person's vote? Yes, the fact that one person can tip the scales is very bad for us, as it nearly happened two Days in a row. But I'm blaming the poor play of the people who make it possible for that to happen. ( I don't rule out hostiles working on either side of that.)
Pleonast's lynch just sucks. Now it seems maybe he was possibly truthfully claiming at the time, although I'm putting more stock in the lie theory since the quote seems to fit it too well. Especially given Pleo's penchant for claiming early. He got a good role and didn't want to become a target, and he ended up just looking shady.
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Post by Parzival on Oct 2, 2012 16:51:30 GMT -5
Also, I missed the end of the Day, but originally the JustBeingGinger vote was just for lurking. I probably would have pulled it ... but Pleo's result (which we have to take as true) makes me feel it might not have been poorly placed.
I am inclined to trust RedSkeezix's information, as it seems an odd thing to share. That doesn't necessarily mean I'm inclined to trust him.
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Post by peekercpa on Oct 2, 2012 17:50:22 GMT -5
Argh. The only thing I can think of is that maybe Pleo started as Third Party but got recruited or got to choose sides based on some mechanic of his powers? Maybe? Guiri's decision to bid that high was really not good, imho. Are you really alive, Peeker? Was there a white light? www.youtube.com/watch?v=wQKKj_qeOBQ
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Post by KidVermicious on Oct 2, 2012 18:01:37 GMT -5
I'm not ready to buy stock in Red and his info yet.
Peeker, you're here! Tell us a story.
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Post by peekercpa on Oct 2, 2012 18:08:59 GMT -5
Peeker! You got some s'plainin' to do, pleeze? hey, i said i would do the 'splainging thing D2 look what that got me. what would you like to know? because for all i can gather you folks are going off the damn deep end.
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Post by peekercpa on Oct 2, 2012 18:11:00 GMT -5
If he shows up this question will be moot, but I wonder if Peeker isn't actually restored to extent that he can again participate in the game? Maybe he's now a zombie or whatever that counts toward some faction's numbers and win condition. nah, i am fully here. have all of my memories and such although at my age they are a touch fluid.
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Post by peekercpa on Oct 2, 2012 18:13:52 GMT -5
Argh. The only thing I can think of is that maybe Pleo started as Third Party but got recruited or got to choose sides based on some mechanic of his powers? Maybe? Guiri's decision to bid that high was really not good, imho. Are you really alive, Peeker? Was there a white light? www.youtube.com/watch?v=wQKKj_qeOBQhosed the damn thing in the original dontchaknow
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Post by peekercpa on Oct 2, 2012 18:18:54 GMT -5
Peeker! You got some s'plainin' to do, pleeze? hey, i said i would do the 'splainging thing D2 look what that got me. what would you like to know? because for all i can gather you folks are going off the damn deep end. sure. what kind would you like? i can do all types. inner sure seems to have a burr under his saddle. the fact that pizza finds jbg's sudden appearance to be somewhat questionable but hangs on to random is odd. the whole magic bag thing from skeez seems more aligned with staying alive than trying to help. i am certain there is more that i will come up with in a moment or so. but first got to stretch out a touch. getting all chopped to pieces will do that to a soul.
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Post by lauriern on Oct 2, 2012 18:28:36 GMT -5
Saywhat? Are you referring to my post, or to the events of the Day in general? Events of the day in general
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Post by KidVermicious on Oct 2, 2012 19:01:52 GMT -5
hey, i said i would do the 'splainging thing D2 look what that got me. what would you like to know? because for all i can gather you folks are going off the damn deep end. sure. what kind would you like? i can do all types. inner sure seems to have a burr under his saddle. the fact that pizza finds jbg's sudden appearance to be somewhat questionable but hangs on to random is odd. the whole magic bag thing from skeez seems more aligned with staying alive than trying to help. i am certain there is more that i will come up with in a moment or so. but first got to stretch out a touch. getting all chopped to pieces will do that to a soul. Oh, no. I wanna hear a story about you. Going back to my post at the end of Night One, I want to know why you claimed Ironman if you knew you were Deadpool. And now I want to know if you know why you came back to life. I brushed my teeth and got my jammies on. Tell me a story.
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Post by Red Skeezix on Oct 2, 2012 19:02:55 GMT -5
Not sure whether Pleo was 3rd and was recruited, or was town and trying to use 3rd as a cover So Red's information is: The game had 7 Town at the end of Day 1 The game had 5 Scum at the end of Day 2 If Pleo was town at this point, then we now have 5 living town. If Pleo was recruited to town after this point, then we now have 6 living town. That's a lot of 3rds out there. Thats assuming recruiting is happening at a one person a night basis. My assumption is that there are more roles like Mahaloth claimed in that multiple players could be recruited in a night. Minimum at this point is 5 living town, but maximum? I dunno.
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Post by Rich Beckman on Oct 2, 2012 19:26:52 GMT -5
Geez o Pete. When I left this morning it looked like Today would end with a simple straight forward lynch of Pleonast. Not that I was in favor of that, but jimminy....
Now to read Night Two.
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Post by peekercpa on Oct 2, 2012 20:17:30 GMT -5
sure. what kind would you like? i can do all types. inner sure seems to have a burr under his saddle. the fact that pizza finds jbg's sudden appearance to be somewhat questionable but hangs on to random is odd. the whole magic bag thing from skeez seems more aligned with staying alive than trying to help. i am certain there is more that i will come up with in a moment or so. but first got to stretch out a touch. getting all chopped to pieces will do that to a soul. Oh, no. I wanna hear a story about you. Going back to my post at the end of Night One, I want to know why you claimed Ironman if you knew you were Deadpool. And now I want to know if you know why you came back to life. I brushed my teeth and got my jammies on. Tell me a story. but i am ironman. i am also deadpool guess it depends on which side of the bed i wake up on. i can be your friend or i can be your worst fucking nightmare. i'm not feeling real hospitable to whomever or whomevers decided to chop me in little pieces N1, btw. and do you seriously think that there is anyone in this game that can keep ironman/[/color] deadpool[/color] dead for long? not likely as far as i can tell. but we'll see. certainly, we shall see. i can provide a valuable service but that is MY magic bag. i am non hostile so i don't interfere with town's wincon (although you do seem to be doing a bang up job of fucking that up on your own). if you avoid me like the plague you might be better off. sleep tight. don't let the beg bugs bite. especially those fuckers that have one inch incisors and rip you to shreds like a shark going after a mahi. good enough? i was always a softy for the original aesops.
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Post by KidVermicious on Oct 2, 2012 20:26:09 GMT -5
Peeks, the mod didn't announce your wincon, so we only have your word that you're non-hostile. That particular gambit has gone over like a lead balloon, so please leave off the cryptic shit and make with the claim. You said you're Ironman. The mod says you lie. I'm generally inclined to vote all liars and I'd love for you to convince me not to continue that tradition with you...
Why are you both Ironman and Deadpool? Why did the mod announce your rolename as Deadpool in the opening color? Why did you get freaking obliterated Night One, and why are you back?
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Post by peekercpa on Oct 2, 2012 20:26:09 GMT -5
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Post by Rich Beckman on Oct 2, 2012 20:46:12 GMT -5
We have crys and Peeker both claiming 3rd party non-hostile.
crys says her pm does not mention recruitment.
Peeker hasn't mentioned recruitment, but he sounds like it would surprise him if he was recruitable.
Mahaloth said he was recruitable by a non fatal night action in his direction by a Town. Is that how it usually works? Should someone be doing something benign to crys and Peeker to find out if they are recruited?
How would we know? If Pollux announces they have been recruited to Town, does that not put a target on their back for Scum?
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Post by peekercpa on Oct 2, 2012 20:46:16 GMT -5
Peeks, the mod didn't announce your wincon, so we only have your word that you're non-hostile. That particular gambit has gone over like a lead balloon, so please leave off the cryptic shit and make with the claim. You said you're Ironman. The mod says you lie. I'm generally inclined to vote all liars and I'd love for you to convince me not to continue that tradition with you... Why are you both Ironman and Deadpool? Why did the mod announce your rolename as Deadpool in the opening color? Why did you get freaking obliterated Night One, and why are you back? i would have been flabbergasted if he would have made it that easy so it is not surprising. and i am ironman as well as deadpool. search deep jedi and you will find the answer (ain't going to make it that easy, ffs). i have no clue why i got clobbered N1. probabably should ask the clobberers and not the clobberee. and i'm back because i am ironman[/color]. and you are correct. the whole non hostile thing has just been a turd in the punch bowl for certain folks. maybe we learn. maybe we don't. meh.
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Post by Rich Beckman on Oct 2, 2012 20:48:36 GMT -5
Although Peeker does say that we might be better off if we avoid him like the plague.
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Post by peekercpa on Oct 2, 2012 20:52:57 GMT -5
but i will add this kid. i was the only death N1. and now i am back. town dodged something that Night. I was glad to be of service.
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Post by peekercpa on Oct 2, 2012 20:58:36 GMT -5
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Post by peekercpa on Oct 2, 2012 21:01:52 GMT -5
vote cookies vote inner
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Post by Rich Beckman on Oct 2, 2012 21:41:31 GMT -5
Well, another cool breeze across my bald pate.
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