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Post by Pollux Oil on Oct 4, 2012 12:48:28 GMT -5
There's a loud screech, and then a terrible quality version of "Singin' in the Rain" starts playing over the loudspeakers, jolting most of the players awake. For those that don't immediately awaken, the sprinkler system turns on, drenching them with cold water so they are forced to get out of bed. All meeting in the main room, some dry and miserable, some drenched and miserable, they turn to the screen, expecting Pollux to show up. And right on time, his grinning face appears.
"Hi! It seems some of you had trouble waking up this morning. Just remember: we're all here for the Gastards' amusement. Sleep is for the weak and the tired!" Pollux half-yawns, then catches himself and looks around warily. "You're lucky they even let you try and sleep! Anywho, obviously all of you are eager to get back to killing one another, so I'll stop rambling and let you guys figure out who's dead! Ciao!"
At first the group hoped the first Night was a fluke. Maybe the atrocities committed on peekercpa were a one-off, somebody had purged their anger and moved on. But nope. A quick roll call determined not one, but two guests of the space station had either slept through the noise and water...or a worse fate had befallen them.
The first room they checked was scathach's and saw a familiar sight. Scathach's body was frozen and broken into several pieces, leaving it very clear that she had been the target of foul play last night. A quick search of the room revealed that scathach had been up to something strange...playing with corpses at night? How foul. Alas, it didn't seem like what was done was really harmful...just odd.
scathach, aka Sander Cohen (Nonhostile Third-Party Back-Up), a PEACEKEEPER, will no longer be turning corpses into art.
The other room was nearby, and the door was jammed shut. After some jury-rigging and hope, the group managed to pry open the doors, only for a terrible stench to greet them. Lying on the bed was wombat99, eyes wide open and unblinking. A large, vertical slice opened the body from neck to groin. In addition, they determined the stench was from the can of shark repellant shoved into wombat's mouth, the gas having emptied into the locked room.
wombat99, aka Professor X (Town Weak Doc/Bodyguard), a PEACEKEEPER, has been mentally and physically destroyed.
Mourning the loss of two more individuals, the group went back to the central room to determine who would be lynched this day.
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Day Three begins now. Day Three ends Tuesday, October 9, at 2 PM EDT.
Mercenary bids for Night Three are closed.
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Post by Inner Stickler on Oct 4, 2012 12:55:34 GMT -5
Interesting. Was wombat targeted or did he take a hit for someone, I wonder.
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Post by Inner Stickler on Oct 4, 2012 12:56:21 GMT -5
And is anyone else curious about this new group that apparently contains both town and third party?
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Post by BillMc on Oct 4, 2012 13:06:07 GMT -5
The peacekeepers were in the Undying War game - and were on both sides - their win condition was to have a day without a lynch and a night without a kill -- ie - peace.
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Post by Inner Stickler on Oct 4, 2012 13:08:31 GMT -5
So they were.
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Post by Parzival on Oct 4, 2012 13:17:45 GMT -5
I'm curious about both these players. Are they somehow linked because they were 'PEACEKEEPERS'? Also, they flipped differently Aligned but also both Peacekeeper team. That smacks of recruitment to me.
One vote is easy: vote JustBeingGinger[/b]
Should I explain? Her claim indicates a lie. She was outed by a known Investigator so her name is probably right, and she's just trying to pretend about the rest.
Otherwise, time to look back and find out what's up with the dead folks (including the end of Yesterday). These deaths are not going well so far.
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Post by Parzival on Oct 4, 2012 13:18:37 GMT -5
What I meant to say is, are the deaths linked?
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Post by Sister Coyote on Oct 4, 2012 13:23:37 GMT -5
Well, fie.
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Post by Sister Coyote on Oct 4, 2012 13:26:32 GMT -5
What I meant to say is, are the deaths linked? I'm not much willing to guess either way, though there is a part of me wondering if the color of "two individuals" is just color or is the mod telling us they are not linked.
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Post by Merestil Haye on Oct 4, 2012 14:00:21 GMT -5
The (three) Peacekeepers, in Total War, had a shared wincon. They could not win with either Town or Mafia. One of them was in fact a traitor to the Mafia.
To that extent, these Peacekeeprs are not like the originals in Total War. Scathach is listed as a nonhostile[/i] third party, so she did not prevent a Town or Mafia win, while poor Wombat 99 (she's a girl Wombat, by the way) is listed as Town.
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Post by gnarlycharlie on Oct 4, 2012 14:09:08 GMT -5
i think it's pretty obvious that the gastard part is that majority of us are 3rd party. i bet Pollux is either having fun at our expense or teaching us a lesson after the debacle of Arkham 2. probably both. ;D
as a board we are trigger-happy when it comes to 3rd parties. i don't agree but i am in the minority. at any rate it really makes claiming 3rd party a risky proposition. that's why i'm surprised crys claimed. she's putting herself in harm's way. i'm chalking it up to her relative newness to the game. i'm inclined to give her the benefit of the doubt. it would fit the gastard theme if a mad bomber was non-hostile.
i'm not sure what to make of Ginger's claim. her admission to editing her PM aside, why would a townie admit in a game where there are, if we believe Red Skeezix, are in a minority? she just put herself in the crosshairs of the scum.
perhaps Scathach was able to protect Ginger as the former would be a strange target for scum. perhaps Scathach was a vig kill. she fits the profile of a vig kill especially after Pizza encouraged the vig to shoot an inactive. that could mean that the scum target was protected by Scathach or another protector. it could also mean that there are no scum. however going down that road leads to madness. i believe that if there are 3rd parties, there are two other, town and scum.
so it leads back to Ginger. why is she alive? does scum hope we will lynch her? with so few townies, i'd think scum would take her out especially since the Doc was killed.
Vote: JustBeingGinger
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Post by gnarlycharlie on Oct 4, 2012 14:11:18 GMT -5
crap! i encountered an error and thought my post failed so i clicked again. can a mod delete the duplicate and THIS post?
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Post by ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies on Oct 4, 2012 14:25:58 GMT -5
I had forgotten scathach was playing until I read the 'going to be away' thread in my pre-Dawn boredom, only to see her turn up dead. Speaking of which, welcome back gnarly Didn't Pizza say he was working on something that could clear or condemn Ginger in 2 cycles? If, so, and Pizza really is Townie that may be worth considering vis a vis not wasting whatever it is he's up to.
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Post by ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies on Oct 4, 2012 14:27:29 GMT -5
Also, scathach's color reveal hints at necromancy maybe.
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Post by crys on Oct 4, 2012 14:48:16 GMT -5
So I am going to think out loud for a moment...what is the possibility that there is a 3rd party role that has a win con for not allowing any other 3rd parties to achieve their wincon?
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Post by ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies on Oct 4, 2012 14:52:11 GMT -5
I don't think that sounds particularly viable.
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Post by Sister Coyote on Oct 4, 2012 15:05:23 GMT -5
I'm inclined to agree, though it is the "flip side" as it were of the role I had in Halloween Mafia as Death of Rats.
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Post by JustBeingGinger on Oct 4, 2012 16:15:09 GMT -5
Silverjan commented that placed a target on my back last Night when I claimed. The target was placed on my back with Pleo posting my title. Scum know I am not scum. They don't know if I am 3rd party or town, either way I am not on their team. So I could not just let my title be out there and not say anything, Judge, Jury, and executioner is not a title of vanilla town.... Now, really am I a threat to scum with my powers, not really... I cannot kill unless I place someone in prison for the Night and Day. Maybe they figured out that I would be a easy lynch for toDay, and so far they seem to be right. When I edited my PM, I honestly did not understand the whole hostile or non hostile designation, I had a day to play catch up and to understand the game. I thought it was best to place non-hostile since I could not explain who I was hostile towards. Lynch me toDay and you will be 1 townie down... That might be good to a 3rd party with their own wincon and most definitely good for scum, your choice.
Or
I can use my power toDay and test the waters to prove what I say is true.
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Post by ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies on Oct 4, 2012 16:15:11 GMT -5
The (three) Peacekeepers, in Total War, had a shared wincon. They could not win with either Town or Mafia. One of them was in fact a traitor to the Mafia. To that extent, these Peacekeeprs are not like the originals in Total War. Scathach is listed as a nonhostile[/i] third party, so she did not prevent a Town or Mafia win, while poor Wombat 99 (she's a girl Wombat, by the way) is listed as Town. [/quote] In that case, it would seem (assuming similar win conditions as past Peacekeeper incarnations) that Wombat could: - win a as a Peacekeeper but lose as Townie or - win as a Townie but lose as a Peacekeeper or - win as a Townie and win as a Peacekeeper or - lose as a Townie and lose as a Peacekeeper Maybe? Which would read to me like she could've had the potential of being a Townie traitor and a flip side of the precedent role? I don't recall following the Total War / Undying War game. There are likely nuances that I'm ignorant of.
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Post by crys on Oct 4, 2012 16:40:35 GMT -5
Interesting. Was wombat targeted or did he take a hit for someone, I wonder. and why no self protect I wonder. I mean this early in the game it would seem foolish to let the protect go up to chance. That is if a weak doc/ bodyguard has a protect to use like that.
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Post by dizzymrslizzy on Oct 4, 2012 16:43:19 GMT -5
I wonder what "Third Party Backup" means?
And yeah I agree why wouldn't Wombat Self Protect last Night, unless she felt there was someone more worthy?
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Post by Sister Coyote on Oct 4, 2012 16:49:00 GMT -5
Usually a "Backup" is someone who takes the role of another player upon the second player's death.
e.g., in the Alice in Wonderland Mafia Alice was a "backup doc" -- if The March Hare died and Alice was still alive, Alice would be then "promoted" to doc. Alice did not know this.
How that would work for a third-party player I have no idea. It's also possible that she could have been backup and thrown her power behind a player of her choosing.
Just throwing ideas out there.
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Post by Sister Coyote on Oct 4, 2012 16:49:21 GMT -5
Oh, and not every doc can self-protect.
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Post by ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies on Oct 4, 2012 16:53:21 GMT -5
A backup power usually has conditional power(s) that only kick in once whoever holds the primary power(s) is dead. I'm not really sure what that tells us in the case since Wombat was a peacekeeper with other explicit powers referenced while scathach was a peacekeeper with no explicit powers referenced.
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Post by Parzival on Oct 4, 2012 17:00:11 GMT -5
Given that her alternate indication was 'bodyguard' it seems likely she could not self-protect. In fact, given that role, she may well have not been targeted at all.
(The typical Bodyguard either has a specific role they protect or maybe can choose a target. If the person they're bodyguarding is attacked, they die instead.) Now looking at that, I wonder if the Peacekeeper thing is involved somehow. Although scathach dying too seems a strange result if it is.
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Post by ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies on Oct 4, 2012 17:01:42 GMT -5
NETA: I mean scathach had no powers referenced in her flipped name/role/designation. But the color coupled with her reveal does seem to indicate she was playing around with necromancy or may have been a coroner or some other role that might futz with the dead. The Third Party flips seem to be more vague with Mahaloth's 'One shot killer' being the exception so far.
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Post by dizzymrslizzy on Oct 4, 2012 17:17:14 GMT -5
Ah okay that makes a lot of sense. I feel like I need to go through all of the old games, and figure out what all of these roles mean. It's really hard to keep track of.
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Post by Colby11 on Oct 4, 2012 17:47:33 GMT -5
Okay, so we have peacekeepers.... If you take Ginger's power into consideration, it does make sense, along with the fact that we have a weak cop/doc in wombat...
We HAVE to find scum, and fast. My first vote is an easy one
Vote Inner Stickler
While someone else (don't remember who ATM) said that Inner was playing angrily, I slightly agree with this. Coupled with yesterday, where he helped expose Guiri's power, I feel comfortable with this vote
Based on how the night kills went, I assume someone did go after KidV, and he blocked that kill with his protection. Also, it seems someone protected Peeker, and was able to bring him back. There is a role in Conspiracy that can do this (Witchdoctor, I think)
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Post by Sister Coyote on Oct 4, 2012 18:06:43 GMT -5
Or, Peeker is a strongman (Deadpool, in canon, is pretty much unkillable).
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Post by ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies on Oct 4, 2012 18:22:33 GMT -5
Okay, so we have peacekeepers.... If you take Ginger's power into consideration, it does make sense, along with the fact that we have a weak cop/doc in wombat... We HAVE to find scum, and fast. My first vote is an easy one Vote Inner SticklerWhile someone else (don't remember who ATM) said that Inner was playing angrily, I slightly agree with this. Coupled with yesterday, where he helped expose Guiri's power, I feel comfortable with this vote Based on how the night kills went, I assume someone did go after KidV, and he blocked that kill with his protection. Also, it seems someone protected Peeker, and was able to bring him back. There is a role in Conspiracy that can do this (Witchdoctor, I think) I see no compelling reasons to come to any of these conclusions. Possibilities, sure. But not conclusions.
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