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Post by LightFoot on Oct 21, 2012 18:07:43 GMT -5
merely speaking for myself, Peeker, I don't want you to shush so much as your content to be relevant if that's not too much?
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Post by Rich Beckman on Oct 21, 2012 18:10:04 GMT -5
<snip> well i can certainly keep my yippity shut if silence is the decision. but from where i sit it sure seems like pizza has thrown down a gauntlet of sorts. do we feel ever so humbly like there is no townie invented as sincere as pizza. or do we have some misgivings. i think he's at least partially full of it. now is it the important stuff or just ancillary bullshit? and frankly i am little surprised that folks haven't been gunning for my ass. i mean i'd sure want to test that claim. or was it a one shot trying to be parlayed into entire game survival? s'why i'd like to lynch pizza. make her prove herself as well as tossing her chips in the pizza pie. and i know this is mid game but unless someone else has seen something from jbg that i haven't depending on her saving her claimed no lynch power to pull it out of the fire for town at lylo or close to that is like betting on a three legged horse. I agree with what you say about AskThePizzaGuy and JustBeingGinger. As for you, I have no complaint with your alphabet book. It is entertaining. Part of me thinks we should lynch you, but you started with all this "Please lynch me" crap when no one was really looking at you, so why bring the attention to yourself? Ahhh, because if you wait until there is even a bit of pressure, people will say "He's just saying that so we won't lynch him." I think the time will come, maybe soon, when I, for one, would be inclined to give you your wish. And I am also not beyond another go at JustBeingGinger. But today there is a better target. Tomorrow? Who knows?
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Post by lauriern on Oct 21, 2012 19:13:38 GMT -5
Colby? Are you saying that you weren't blocked last night? You claimed your first two converts were Pleo and Wombatt. So you tried to convert 2 more players on Nights 3 & 4? Yes Colby, Can you clarify? Do you recruit during the Day or during the Night?
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Post by lauriern on Oct 21, 2012 21:19:05 GMT -5
If they are like me they are completely flummoxed by whatever in hell it is you are doing. Are you Town and playing brilliantly? Or are you Town and playing badly? Or are you 3rd Party Hostile and scamming us? Or Scum and scamming us? Hell, I don't know. I have my vote on dizzymrslizzy because I think she is the clear choice for a lynch. But if I did not think that, I am not sure I would vote for her just to save you from the lynch. I know your plan was to assure yourself of the merc, but twelve votes?? I would not be the least surprised if we find out later you intentionally bid too high to force JustBeingGinger to waste/use her one shot save on you. And I have mixed feelings about whether she should use it on you or not. And God only knows what peekercpa is up to with his own version of the alphabet book. Did that arise out of his role, or is he bored? Colby/Pizza have been sticking in my gut for a while now. If Dizzy flips Town, I'm going to be all over them like a cheap suit.
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Post by peekercpa on Oct 21, 2012 22:38:50 GMT -5
merely speaking for myself, Peeker, I don't want you to shush so much as your content to be relevant if that's not too much? ahh my friend. do you not understand that EVERYTHING that is said has a purpose. a drink at Night when there is no strategy can lead to death. a post in the pre game can decide how endgame is played. nothing that is said or observed is without reason. some take this several levels deep. others just let it sit on their sleeve. so there is nothing that i have posted that is not relevant to this game. and i take offense that you would opine in that manner.
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Post by peekercpa on Oct 21, 2012 22:47:43 GMT -5
As for you, I have no complaint with your alphabet book. It is entertaining. Part of me thinks we should lynch you, but you started with all this "Please lynch me" crap when no one was really looking at you, so why bring the attention to yourself? because i am playing for a town win even though that does not necessarily mean i win. i was away for a while. i have come back. and while i still know how to ride the bike i don't have the chops for col de la croix de fer. yet.
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Post by Askthepizzaguy on Oct 22, 2012 0:50:30 GMT -5
I think we all got sucked out with the air when you and peeks opened the escape hatch on the space station. Correction: That's "blown" out.
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Post by Askthepizzaguy on Oct 22, 2012 0:52:20 GMT -5
You people are full of it, by the way.
If you want me to flip and demonstrate how townie I am, make it happen. Don't wuss out.
Just be prepared to feel stupid. Brace yourself, it's gonna sting.
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Post by Colby11 on Oct 22, 2012 2:21:58 GMT -5
You people are full of it, by the way. If you want me to flip and demonstrate how townie I am, make it happen. Don't wuss out. Just be prepared to feel stupid. Brace yourself, it's gonna sting. I would rather not test whether you are town or not by a lynch.
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Post by Colby11 on Oct 22, 2012 2:23:20 GMT -5
Colby, Can you clarify? Do you recruit during the Day or during the Night? I will ask this simple question, why ask (again?)
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Post by Colby11 on Oct 22, 2012 2:25:05 GMT -5
@red- for today, I would ask for how many town players we have.
Furthermore, I would like your recruitable person either today or tonight. Either one works for me, though I would rather have it sooner than later
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Post by Askthepizzaguy on Oct 22, 2012 3:54:55 GMT -5
You people are full of it, by the way. If you want me to flip and demonstrate how townie I am, make it happen. Don't wuss out. Just be prepared to feel stupid. Brace yourself, it's gonna sting. I would rather not test whether you are town or not by a lynch. I cheerfully volunteer to be deeply investigated by the next person that gains use of the Mercenary. I cheerfully volunteer to be roleblocked by anyone. it's happened before, it shall happen again! I cheerfully volunteer to be lynched if it will end the silliness and get folks back on their game. Any of these are fine. I just grow weary of the "He's gotta have something up his sleeve, he's pizza, blah blah blah" lynch me then. Nothing grows more heavy on a townie's patience than vague suspicions that never go away, grow more intense for no reason, and are not backed up with the full force of a voting action. Don't you wanna see my card? If I am bluffing, call, and ask to see my card. But let's quit this silly game of not doing anything about it. It just gets irritating.
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Post by Merestil Haye on Oct 22, 2012 7:31:19 GMT -5
Day 5. Dawn sees BillMc dead. Evidence from players suggests they were all blocked last Night. One hypothesis that I have not seen advanced is that Bill asked to be subbed out, and was modkilled. (Asking another player to sub in at this point may be a bit much to ask.) There is some support for this; Bill’s last post N04.032) opened with Bill apologising for not having the time to play. The only alternative is that someone has a kill that works not only through protection but also roleblocks; we have seen such an ability given to the master of the Deck of Dragons, but that player needed the powers they had to have any choice at all. No-one has admitted having such a kill. Colby appears to be claiming in D05.027 that he took action last Night through the mass block that seems to have affected everyone else. (I’m sceptical of this claim. Of course, if he does not get feedback on his Night actions, he might not necessarily get informed that he was blocked.) Colby confirmed in D05.088 that he gets no notification of his result. Colby suggests that the mafia don’t see him as a threat ( D05.061); personally, in a setup like this I would be quite keen to take a player with Colby’s role out as two successful recruits add one mislynch. He also suggests that ATPG is being kept alive in order to sow confusion. That’s plausible as well. We can’t rule out one or the other of them being Mafia, either. I need to do some rl stuff; back around teatime to carry on from page 4.
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Post by Sister Coyote on Oct 22, 2012 9:54:18 GMT -5
<font style="font-size: 12px; ">merely speaking for myself, Peeker, I don't want you to shush so much as your content to be relevant if that's not too much? He's trying to get himself lynched. Soon, he''ll be posting random Wiki articles, and the Ghost of Special Ed (or Ed astral projecting himself) will go to Texas to beat him with a stick. <font style="font-size: 12px; "> Oct 18, 2012, 4:43pm, Colby11 wrote:<table cellpadding="2" cellspacing="0" class="quote" width="100%"><tbody><tr><td width="100%"> Oct 18, 2012, 1:48pm, dizzymrslizzy wrote:<table bgcolor="000000" class="bordercolor" cellspacing="1" width="90%"><tbody><tr><td width="100%"><table cellpadding="2" cellspacing="0" class="quote" width="100%"><tbody><tr><td width="100%">Colby? Are you saying that you weren't blocked last night?
You claimed your first two converts were Pleo and Wombatt. So you tried to convert 2 more players on Nights 3 & 4? </td></tr></tbody></table>
Yes</td></tr></tbody></table></td></tr></tbody></table> Colby, Can you clarify? Do you recruit during the Day or during the Night? Here's the thing: I don't think it matters when Colby does his thing because he doesn't get a result.
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Post by Merestil Haye on Oct 22, 2012 14:12:38 GMT -5
Some discussion of whether we should lynch dizzymrslizzy. The case centres around her admitted visit to peeker on N1, coupled with the evidence of the claimed town Vig and a known Mafiate that they did not target peeker, but were redirected. (I wouldn’t normally give Silver Jan any credence here, but her testimony is corroborated by a believed Townsperson.) The question is, what is Dizzy? She could be what she says, and attended on peeker to see what he did. She could be a killing role, and got redirected to peeker (or originally planned to kill peeker). She could have a role that allows her to lure killing roles onto her target. Someone had to redirect multiple killing roles. The simplest explanation for that is a Nexus type ability affecting only killing roles. (If it affected everyone, surely guiri-the-Doc would also have been redirected onto peeker, thus protecting peeker from the kills). There are only three possible candidates; Dizzy, peeker himself and Meeko. There’s no real evidence to show which one it would be (alternatively if you have another suggestion as to how two or more killers were redirected to peeker, speak up.) On ATPG. Most investigator roles reach a point where the best thing to do is kill them and see how they flip. The more information they have put into the public domain, the more valuable verifying their information becomes. However, the longer the game goes on, the riskier killing them becomes. Especially if the Town has used up a number of mislynches. Consequently we have to think carefully before stringing such a player up. I’m not sure, on balance, whether Today is a good Day for it, as I don’t know how much more information ATPG & Co can generate. But we should consider it in the next couple of Days. (The answer may be that we can’t afford to because of the gamestate.) Based on the list of deaths, and assuming that Red Skeezix is telling the truth about his power and results, I would suspect that the gamestate has four to five Town facing off against three Mafia and most likely one Hosttile Third Party. That would make lynching ATPG a trifle risky Today. We don’t know the Mafia wincon, but if it’s along the lines of “equal or exceed Town numbers and eliminate all Hostile Third Party players” then they’re close to achieving one, and the other would only be a matter of time (and remember the Town also need to eliminate Third Party Hostiles). If Red Skeezix is lying then we really have no idea about the gamestate except the lynch record. In D05.114 ATPG suggests that Mafia-aligned trackers are not unknown. This is true. If we assume that Dizzy is a Mafia-aligned tracker for the moment, what purpose would she have in visiting peeker on Night 1? There’s an obvious reason for a watcher to be there – peeker had caused a stir with his N0 Ironman claim followed by the Mod revelation that his rolename was Deadpool. (Remember, at this point he had not been mod-confirmed as third party.) The Mafia might have hoped, by sending a Watcher, to catch a Town cop. The mafia sending in a tracker makes no sense to me. So, if she’s a tracker, she’s a Town tracker. Also, if Dizzy is Town then she may be needed as a bulwark against the Mafia. I think my main problem with lynching Dizzy is Meeko’s reveal. I’m uneasy about the way Meeko picked on Dizzy for no real reason, and did not even reveal the other candidates until pushed. It just feels like one Mafiate protecting another, and so I would rather lynch Meeko than Dizzy. Vote: Meeko Also, I am quite happy to be scanned at ATPG’s convenience. The gift of a clear conscience, you know. More later.
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Post by Askthepizzaguy on Oct 22, 2012 17:33:21 GMT -5
I should be able to tell by the end of the day what your status is, MHaye.
That one was my partner's call.
As for myself, I've got to ensure Colbmeister doesn't die. If he improves town's numbers even once more, that can be game-changing.
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Post by peekercpa on Oct 22, 2012 18:55:53 GMT -5
oooh, mhaye that hurts. meeko has given us information that as near as i can tell means he is something or he has guessed his ass off and been right. now could he be scum, certainly. but crud with all the other hijinks going on and with skeezy's info about alignment it sure seems overpowered, to me at least, for him to be scum. therefore, i start with the assumption that he is telling the truth.
pizza is another chapter. he is a good player, from what i can tell. but he is a little storyesque. and by that i mean that he sure seems sure of himself even with just scant evidence, but jeebuz it sounds reassuring. and i know one of the huge gripes that folks had was that we had become too dependent on power roles to control our destiny. certainly, they are helpful. but crud scum dicks, false masons, blow through killers, mass rbs, etc. at least taught me to rely on the game and instinct. and i don't want to put words in sis's mouth but she espoused it recently. "i look for the evidence and ultimately i trust my gut" (sis if you want to slap me down then go for it). and i don't mean to offend pizza but there is something about his play that tastes and feels like milk that has gone a week past its expiration date. i mean its not rancid by any means, but it sure as heck has an aroma and a taste that is not copacetic.
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Post by peekercpa on Oct 22, 2012 18:56:37 GMT -5
I should be able to tell by the end of the day what your status is, MHaye. That one was my partner's call. As for myself, I've got to ensure Colbmeister doesn't die. If he improves town's numbers even once more, that can be game-changing. well i certainly await with baited breath.
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Post by peekercpa on Oct 22, 2012 19:04:12 GMT -5
I should be able to tell by the end of the day what your status is, MHaye. That one was my partner's call. As for myself, I've got to ensure Colbmeister doesn't die. If he improves town's numbers even once more, that can be game-changing. and i apologize if i missed it. so you have a Day power that determines status. i assume you pm the mod and then he pms you back with your results. and since it is a claimed Day power do you have a timeframe that the mog has indicated that you will get your results? or does it just kind of happen like mushrooms popping up after a rain? really, i am curious. and the ususal b.s. about helping scum v town mantra goes without saying. carp, dude. with all the powers and knowledge you possess maybe we should start addressing you as yahweh. i still don't think you should have let your son get nailed to a tree just to prove a point, however.
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Post by Askthepizzaguy on Oct 22, 2012 19:08:54 GMT -5
peeker, you and your anti-town shenanigans are not my target audience.
You should realize nobody takes you seriously right now with your constant attempts to die. So why would I begin to care what you think?
You can pause for a moment and get all whimsical and fanciful with your language and pretend to care what happens to the rest of us, but essentially, your role this game has been nothing more than to take a big giant steaming turd on everyone else's efforts, in the hopes we'd get annoyed enough to kill you for it.
I've seen Joker roles before. The fact that you seem to need to die multiple times to win, well... that makes it fair, I suppose. Joker roles are such a waste of time and so cheap, under normal circumstances.
But don't think for one minute that I care if I smell like rotten cheese, to you. Right now, I only care what the town vig, the town recruiter, and the cleared people think of my efforts. Because they're the only ones who I know I can work with for sure.
I am listening patiently for signs from everyone else that they're kosher, but I also know several of them are not. And as such, they're in a category where I'm slightly less skeptical of them than I am of you.
I know you're not trying to help us win. That much is clear from your alphabet posts and repeated nonsense votes for me. And if I knew a way of safely denying you your win condition, I would see to it gladly. But you're not the priority. You don't matter.
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Post by Askthepizzaguy on Oct 22, 2012 19:12:18 GMT -5
I should be able to tell by the end of the day what your status is, MHaye. That one was my partner's call. As for myself, I've got to ensure Colbmeister doesn't die. If he improves town's numbers even once more, that can be game-changing. and i apologize if i missed it. so you have a Day power that determines status. i assume you pm the mod and then he pms you back with your results. and since it is a claimed Day power do you have a timeframe that the mog has indicated that you will get your results? or does it just kind of happen like mushrooms popping up after a rain? really, i am curious. and the ususal b.s. about helping scum v town mantra goes without saying. carp, dude. with all the powers and knowledge you possess maybe we should start addressing you as yahweh. i still don't think you should have let your son get nailed to a tree just to prove a point, however. Given all of this wouldn't even have been posted if you bothered to read the thread everyday where I remind people, every day, that my mason partner has a scanning power that works in the day time.... I don't think I need to respond further. I've already written you off as nonsense and an unhelpful distraction.
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Post by peekercpa on Oct 22, 2012 19:12:20 GMT -5
You people are full of it, by the way. If you want me to flip and demonstrate how townie I am, make it happen. Don't wuss out. Just be prepared to feel stupid. Brace yourself, it's gonna sting. I would rather not test whether you are town or not by a lynch. does, anyone else read this as DUH. crud, he's trying to save your ass. i mean if you are paddling alone in the north atlantic a life preserver that says titanic on it looks pretty damn hopeful.
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Post by peekercpa on Oct 22, 2012 19:17:14 GMT -5
and i apologize if i missed it. so you have a Day power that determines status. i assume you pm the mod and then he pms you back with your results. and since it is a claimed Day power do you have a timeframe that the mog has indicated that you will get your results? or does it just kind of happen like mushrooms popping up after a rain? really, i am curious. and the ususal b.s. about helping scum v town mantra goes without saying. carp, dude. with all the powers and knowledge you possess maybe we should start addressing you as yahweh. i still don't think you should have let your son get nailed to a tree just to prove a point, however. Given all of this wouldn't even have been posted if you bothered to read the thread everyday where I remind people, every day, that my mason partner has a scanning power that works in the day time.... I don't think I need to respond further. I've already written you off as nonsense and an unhelpful distraction. so your lynch will not affect the ability for your partner to get results? as such are you merely the "mouth of sauron". that didn't work out so well, btw.
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Post by Askthepizzaguy on Oct 22, 2012 19:20:20 GMT -5
Well at least I know if I post something publicly, to be read by all, it will still be kept a secret from you.
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Post by peekercpa on Oct 22, 2012 19:22:06 GMT -5
peeker, you and your anti-town shenanigans are not my target audience. You should realize nobody takes you seriously right now with your constant attempts to die. So why would I begin to care what you think? You can pause for a moment and get all whimsical and fanciful with your language and pretend to care what happens to the rest of us, but essentially, your role this game has been nothing more than to take a big giant steaming turd on everyone else's efforts, in the hopes we'd get annoyed enough to kill you for it. I've seen Joker roles before. The fact that you seem to need to die multiple times to win, well... that makes it fair, I suppose. Joker roles are such a waste of time and so cheap, under normal circumstances. But don't think for one minute that I care if I smell like rotten cheese, to you. Right now, I only care what the town vig, the town recruiter, and the cleared people think of my efforts. Because they're the only ones who I know I can work with for sure. I am listening patiently for signs from everyone else that they're kosher, but I also know several of them are not. And as such, they're in a category where I'm slightly less skeptical of them than I am of you. I know you're not trying to help us win. That much is clear from your alphabet posts and repeated nonsense votes for me. And if I knew a way of safely denying you your win condition, I would see to it gladly. But you're not the priority. You don't matter. heh heh. cut to close to the bone my friend? and while you feel that i am acting anti town i feel the same about you. i am working for town the best way that i know even though my wincon does not align with theirs.
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Post by Askthepizzaguy on Oct 22, 2012 19:25:40 GMT -5
You couldn't hit the side of a barn from the inside. That's how far off the mark you are.
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Post by lauriern on Oct 22, 2012 19:26:38 GMT -5
Colby, Can you clarify? Do you recruit during the Day or during the Night? I will ask this simple question, why ask (again?) I didn't ask this before. I think someone else asked (wayyyyy too many pages for me to go through to find out), but I don't remember seeing your answer.
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Post by peekercpa on Oct 22, 2012 19:27:00 GMT -5
Well at least I know if I post something publicly, to be read by all, it will still be kept a secret from you. ok, i absolutely don't get this. help, please?
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Post by peekercpa on Oct 22, 2012 19:29:11 GMT -5
You couldn't hit the side of a barn from the inside. That's how far off the mark you are. which means i am getting close. i'm not trying to hit the side of a barn. i'm trying to find scum. but the next time the zebras break out i will call you for some input.
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Post by lauriern on Oct 22, 2012 19:32:56 GMT -5
<font style="font-size: 12px; "> Oct 18, 2012, 4:43pm, Colby11 wrote:<table cellpadding="2" cellspacing="0" class="quote" width="100%"><tbody><tr><td width="100%"> Oct 18, 2012, 1:48pm, dizzymrslizzy wrote:<table bgcolor="000000" class="bordercolor" cellspacing="1" width="90%"><tbody><tr><td width="100%"><table cellpadding="2" cellspacing="0" class="quote" width="100%"><tbody><tr><td width="100%">Colby? Are you saying that you weren't blocked last night?
You claimed your first two converts were Pleo and Wombatt. So you tried to convert 2 more players on Nights 3 & 4? </td></tr></tbody></table>
Yes</td></tr></tbody></table></td></tr></tbody></table> Colby, Can you clarify? Do you recruit during the Day or during the Night? Here's the thing: I don't think it matters when Colby does his thing because he doesn't get a result. Don't you think that's weird though?? How can he not get a result? or he might not get a result, but to not be notified you were roleblocked? That really doesn't make sense........
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