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Post by Colby11 on Oct 23, 2012 22:33:04 GMT -5
Okay, I want answers now rather than later, so I will start with person #1 that was recruited on Day 3 Crys- did you receive a PM for recruitment? No I did not. When I revealed I said I would be surprised if I did end up being recruitable. True, considering your role. I will trust that you are not lying right now
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Post by Colby11 on Oct 23, 2012 22:44:26 GMT -5
Pizza's list, modified by me.
1. CometotheDarkSideWeHaveCookies Nonhostile 2. gnarlycharlie 3. colby11 Claimed Town recruiter 5. Meeko Claimed third-party nonhostile watcher/ tracker 7. crys Claimed third-party /nonhostile/ mad bomber 9. dizzymrslizzy Claimed town tracker 11. Lightfoot 12. storyteller nonhostile 13. Merestil Haye 14. Sister Coyote- Pizza's mason buddy 16. LaurieRN- recruited to town 17. patricia 18. Suburban Plankton 19. peekercpa, aka Deadpool (Third-Party Serial Annoyer) 20. Inner Stickler Claimed Town Vig 22. richbeckman 23. Red Skeezix - Nonhostile 27. sinjin non-hostile 28. JustBeingGinger Claimed Town Scotsman/executioner, claimed to pee blue Day Four
End of list
so, out of the hostile group, we have the following that I feel least comfortable with
Gnarlycharlie Patricia Suburban Plankton Lightfoot Merestal Haye Meeko Dizzylizzy
I added the last two to the list because I think one or even both are lying. The numbers aren't adding up, and we need to figure out who exactly is what, and soon before we get to where we can't win this thing.
Kinda surprised that we don't have the mercenary already dead... Wait, didn't someone say that they knew who that was?
We need all the info we can get at this point.
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Post by dizzymrslizzy on Oct 23, 2012 22:59:34 GMT -5
Yes Story alledged that he knew that the Merc was a person.
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Post by storyteller0910 on Oct 24, 2012 7:43:11 GMT -5
Yes Story alledged that he knew that the Merc was a person. Yeah, it is. Again, I actually know who it is, though I don't see much point in revealing it unless I'm missing something. Otherwise. Ugh. I missed all of Day Five, and I guess it's good that I was somehow cleared as nonhostile because otherwise I'd want to lynch me. I'm going to have to stop playing Mafia after this for a while... time just does not permit. For now, though, I'll make every possible effort to pull it together. For the record: I am a nonhostile third party. There is no indication in my role PM regarding whether or not I can be recruited by any side, and no one has tried to my knowledge. Now, apparently pizzaguy was lynched. I'm really interested to see how that played out, because at the time I stopped being able to focus on the game he seemed to be not confirmed but at least provisionally trusted. So I'll read Day Five today and see what I missed.
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Post by storyteller0910 on Oct 24, 2012 8:13:08 GMT -5
OK, just read Day Five. So near as I can tell:
1. A LOT of people thought dizzymrslizzy should be the target for the Day, for one reason or another.
2. Virtually no one actually wanted askthepizzaguy to be lynched.
3. askthepizzaguy was lynched.
4. Suburban Plankton posted a fairly long post in which he neither voted to lynch pizzaguy nor to save him. His argument was basically, "you decided to bid 13 votes for the Merc, so you have it coming to you." I still don't understand this argument. Who cares whether pizza deserved to die or not? To quote a great philosopher, deserve's got nothing to do with it.
@Plankton: given your opinions as you posted them late yesterDay, how did pizzaguy's death in place of dizymrslizzy's help you toward your own win condition? How did it help the group as a whole?
5. Unless I miss it, pizza died without revealing his Mason partner. This slightly sucks, in that if (s)he claims, (s)he will be subject to Scum or Hostile counterclaim and we'll have to try to sort it out, but on the whole it's not that big of a deal.
6. Did I miss a compelling reason that we have accepted JBG as nonhostile and RedSkeezix the same?
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Post by storyteller0910 on Oct 24, 2012 8:24:23 GMT -5
Whoops - just re-read Night Five so far - strike #5 from above.
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Post by Inner Stickler on Oct 24, 2012 9:08:45 GMT -5
6. Did I miss a compelling reason that we have accepted JBG as nonhostile and RedSkeezix the same? She dodged a lynch without being named a scotsman which intimates to me that she's not lying about being unlynchable. Yes, I'm assuming that she's not some sort of silent scum scotsman who doesn't get a reveal upon using their lynch avoidance. Yes, this assumption may bite me in the butt but if we lose the game because JBG was an unlynchable scum, then I'm not going to feel bad and I'm going to give Pollux the stinkeye. Red, I got nothing. He's been giving us information, whether it's true or not, I don't know but for the moment I guess I'm trusting him?
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Post by Sister Coyote on Oct 24, 2012 9:19:31 GMT -5
Colby,
MHaye is non-hostile.
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Post by Suburban Plankton on Oct 24, 2012 9:51:35 GMT -5
4. Suburban Plankton posted a fairly long post in which he neither voted to lynch pizzaguy nor to save him. His argument was basically, "you decided to bid 13 votes for the Merc, so you have it coming to you." I still don't understand this argument. Who cares whether pizza deserved to die or not? To quote a great philosopher, deserve's got nothing to do with it. @ Plankton: given your opinions as you posted them late yesterDay, how did pizzaguy's death in place of dizymrslizzy's help you toward your own win condition? How did it help the group as a whole? You've slightly misstated my argument. What I said was that the town seemed to have divided themselves into two camps: "lynch dizzy" and "let Pizza lynch himself". I missed a large portion of the Day due to the fact that I was simply busy doing other things, and by the time I came back and had a chance to post, I didn't feel like contributing to either side, because I didn't see a compelling case against either of them. I suppose you could say that puts me by default in the "Pizza gets what he deserves" camp, since that's the outcome my (in)action supported. But frankly, I thought Pizza was bluffing about the 13 Merc votes. I still maintain that he vastly overbid, and I'm surprised that he would make such a miscalculation. I fully expected him to survive the Day unscathed. Now, as to your questions to me: "How did pizzaguy's death in place of dizymrslizzy's help you toward your own win condition?" Having given this a bit of consideration, I decline to answer it at this time. I'm sure you'll understand. "How did it help the group as a whole?" As far as I can tell, it didn't help at all. We do have clarity regarding Pizza's status, so that is 'good' in the sense that we won't spend any more cycles discussing Pizza's motivations, but that doesn't really give us any advantage. If Pizza personally had been able to clear anyone as Town, that would have been a definite advantage. We do have SisC's list of 'Nonhostiles', which does help us narrow down our search, but that comes at the cost of SisC having to reveal herself, which is unfortunate. So would it have been better if dizzymrslizzy had been lynched? That remains to be seen.
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Post by Suburban Plankton on Oct 24, 2012 9:55:36 GMT -5
Colby, do you have reason to believe you are the only Town Recruiter? If you were the only town recruiter, it might be worthwhile to do this. But if you are stating that someone is lying about their alignment, we need to make sure they didn't become town in any other way. It's your call on this obviously, but I would want to make sure your choice here is worthwhile and advantageous to you. I believe that I am probably the only recruiter, but my PM leaves it a bit open "there may even be a suitable replacement for you if you die, but don't count on it." The other player who I tried to recruit hasn't stated that they are scum.... I will ponder and think about things I believe I mentioned this before, but I'm guessing that scathach, the "Nonhostile Third-Party Back-Up", was your potential backup. My theory is that he was the potential backup to a number of players, and would have been automatically 'recruited' when the first of the 'primary' roles (possibly either Town or Scum) was killed, but scathach himself died before that happened.
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Post by Suburban Plankton on Oct 24, 2012 9:56:15 GMT -5
i really really really want to play a no gloves off mofo with some of you folks. just one time. maybe story as the mod. although i'd like to bust him in the chops and take him home for dinner. make the grade: inner meeko pizza skeezy sis kid sach santo roOsh pollux blam kind of make the grade but the jury is out: cheese ginger laurie zuma ullz tabs gnarliebut of all of them i want santo and roosh to come back. I haz a sad
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Post by Suburban Plankton on Oct 24, 2012 10:03:51 GMT -5
Living and Non-hostile (per scan or Mod): 1. CometotheDarkSideWeHaveCookies 12. storyteller 13. Merestil Haye 14. Sister Coyote 27. sinjin Are we to assume that yours is the "per Mod" name in this list and the others are "per Scan"? I thought that Pizza had stated in no uncertain terms that his purpose for winning the Merc was to protect Colby Tonight. So either he did that, or he didn't. It seems to me that if you confirm that he didn't protect Colby, that tells Scum they are free to kill him unopposed, and if you tell us that he did protect Colby that tells the Scum that they are 'safe' shooting anywhere else. Now granted, there are several barrels-full of WIFOM here, but it seems to me that keeping mum about Pizza's actions is a no-brainer here. Especially considering that there may be Town or Town-friendly actions that you might WIFOM as well as Scum.
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Post by Sister Coyote on Oct 24, 2012 10:11:47 GMT -5
Yes, WIFOM was what I was going for there. But you're right, that pizza is not subtle.
And yes. I did not have to scan myself. Actually, that list used to include pizza as mod confirmed, but he's dead now.
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Post by Rich Beckman on Oct 24, 2012 10:15:53 GMT -5
<snip> I thought that Pizza had stated in no uncertain terms that his purpose for winning the Merc was to protect Colby Tonight. So either he did that, or he didn't. It seems to me that if you confirm that he didn't protect Colby, that tells Scum they are free to kill him unopposed, and if you tell us that he did protect Colby that tells the Scum that they are 'safe' shooting anywhere else. Now granted, there are several barrels-full of WIFOM here, but it seems to me that keeping mum about Pizza's actions is a no-brainer here. Especially considering that there may be Town or Town-friendly actions that you might WIFOM as well as Scum. Do we have confirmation that the merc will still carry out AskThePizzaGuy's request even though he got lynched?
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Post by patricia on Oct 24, 2012 14:35:49 GMT -5
Sorry that I missed most of Day 5 - on a happy note my son team finish the season 3rd in the state- so I'm very proud and Happy for him and his teammates! GO Muddogs
Also, at this time I want to go on the record to say my role is 3rd Party - Non Hostile - I believe my role is similar to Princess Peach as my PM said their was another who had the same type of role
I welcome all scanners, watcher or trackers to check me out - I don't have any thing to hid
I would like to work with town as I can meet my win con and help town win at the same time
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Post by JustBeingGinger on Oct 24, 2012 14:44:56 GMT -5
and i got to say this to lighthorsebeinggingerwhoisahomehealthnursefor fuck's sake i have toned it down a touch. if it is not appreciated. well then, i'll see you on the flip side. woot the fucking woot. I really have no idea what you are talking about here.
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Post by Sister Coyote on Oct 24, 2012 15:58:34 GMT -5
I think, assuming my peek-to-English translator isn't on the fritz, he's saying that he is toning down his posting from yesterDay/last Night.
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Post by Inner Stickler on Oct 24, 2012 16:03:06 GMT -5
I haz a sad You can be my second and if I get winded in the first half, you'll go in for me.
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Post by peekercpa on Oct 24, 2012 20:36:33 GMT -5
I think, assuming my peek-to-English translator isn't on the fritz, he's saying that he is toning down his posting from yesterDay/last Night. as ususal sis reads me like a book. what i was after earlier is that colby said he communicated to pizza about his bid being out of line. i kind of made the assumption that they were masons together. since for the life of me i don't remember that discussion being held in the main thread since he said it was posted here. either that or the fucking acid has come back with a vengeance and i am getting 5 years of doses all in one swoop.
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Post by peekercpa on Oct 24, 2012 20:51:20 GMT -5
yeh it was at D5.309 where he references communicating "in here" with pizza the previous Night. now i went back and looked N4 and didn't see that. sis. help me where is the break down? now you say that you are the other mason. well shucks i am totally confused. i mean how was cheese communicating with pizza? were you aware of that? did you communicate with cheese? are there THREE masons now?
c'mon sis give the old fuck a break.
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Post by peekercpa on Oct 24, 2012 20:55:13 GMT -5
or did pizza have this uber special power where he could communicate with ease with anyone outide of any kind of special set up. pm's maybe. kind of frowned upon in these parts but gasterd is what gasterd is so maybe. especially since pizza kind of inferred about something to do by communicating via pm and the drag it was causing him to not be able to do so.
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Post by peekercpa on Oct 24, 2012 20:59:08 GMT -5
I haz a sad it's because you are co-modding you silly soul. although that might be a fuck job of historical proportions. let the co mod finish the design and then place them in and tell them to be chill like. and then fuck them on the final set up. heh heh. like it. burby you are definitely in.
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Post by peekercpa on Oct 24, 2012 21:06:53 GMT -5
i really really really want to play a no gloves off mofo with some of you folks. just one time. maybe story as the mod. although i'd like to bust him in the chops and take him home for dinner. make the grade: inner meeko pizza skeezy sis kid sach santo roOsh pollux blam kind of make the grade but the jury is out: cheese ginger laurie zuma ullz tabs gnarliebut of all of them i want santo and roosh to come back. I haz a sad and we need a red shirtbeckham or whathefuckever. probably will be like me in this game. goes on every adventure. gets killed and no one really cares. but the bastard dies again and again and again, repeat forever. no votes or shit, just fodder. seventh level of hell rich, seventh level of hell.
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Post by Rich Beckman on Oct 24, 2012 21:17:40 GMT -5
<snip> and we need a red shirtbeckham or whathefuckever. probably will be like me in this game. goes on every adventure. gets killed and no one really cares. but the bastard dies again and again and again, repeat forever. no votes or shit, just fodder. seventh level of hell rich, seventh level of hell. Seventh level, eh? I hope there are elevators, seven flights is pushing it.
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Post by Colby11 on Oct 24, 2012 22:53:40 GMT -5
yeh it was at D5.309 where he references communicating "in here" with pizza the previous Night. now i went back and looked N4 and didn't see that. sis. help me where is the break down? now you say that you are the other mason. well shucks i am totally confused. i mean how was cheese communicating with pizza? were you aware of that? did you communicate with cheese? are there THREE masons now? c'mon sis give the old fuck a break. Then apparently I was thinking it and didn't say it.
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Post by Colby11 on Oct 24, 2012 22:56:47 GMT -5
My list of who we should look at
Gnarlycharlie Patricia Suburban Plankton Lightfoot Richbeckham Meeko Dizzylizzy
Now, I want to address Meeko
I feel that you are lying about something. You claim to be a non hostile 3rd party Tracker/watcher. So why didn't you get recruited when I tried to recruit you on Day 4?
I call you out, I think you are scum, or at least lying about something
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Post by Meeko on Oct 24, 2012 23:45:11 GMT -5
<font style="font-size: 12px; ">My list of who we should look at Gnarlycharlie Patricia Suburban Plankton Lightfoot Richbeckham Meeko Dizzylizzy Now, I want to address Meeko I feel that you are lying about something. You claim to be a non hostile 3rd party Tracker/watcher. So why didn't you get recruited when I tried to recruit you on Day 4? I call you out, I think you are scum, or at least lying about something <font style="font-size: 12px; "> Yesterday at 3:38pm, Colby11 wrote:<table cellpadding="2" cellspacing="0" class="quote" width="100%"><tbody><tr><td width="100%"> Ok, according to Red, we had 7 players going into Night 1, and then 4 walking into tonight.
Since then, Bill, Pleonast, Guiri, Wombat, and now ATPG were town. Apoarently I did successfully recruit Wombat and Pleonast, because there are 5 dead town players now.
It also shows that my last two attempts have failed, and that the two players that I have tried to recruit are non recruitable. So, should I reveal them? Or be quiet?</td></tr></tbody></table> Colby, do you have reason to believe you are the only Town Recruiter? If you were the only town recruiter, it might be worthwhile to do this. But if you are stating that someone is lying about their alignment, we need to make sure they didn't become town in any other way. It's your call on this obviously, but I would want to make sure your choice here is worthwhile and advantageous to you. I was attempting to breadcrumb to you with mine, once it became clear you attempted to recruit me. Accepting recruitment, at least as I understand it, and have asked questions to the mod about, changes out my win condition AND removes my powers. I was given the option to accept recruitment, and I turned it down.I frankly think that Town cannot win this game, given the number of claims town has made. Thus, I stated It's your call on this obviously, but I would want to make sure your choice here is worthwhile and advantageous to you. I currently see accepting the town recruitment as suicide. I don't think any player would fault me for weighing my options and taking the one I believe to be the best one. I would be remiss if I didn't go one further here. You accuse me of lying about something. What exactly would that be? I have and still do understand recruitment to be voluntary.
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Post by Colby11 on Oct 25, 2012 0:12:37 GMT -5
It would not change your powers... Per my PM
Powers 1. Once per Day, you may choose a target to mind flay. At Dusk, your target will find themselves gripped with the tentacles of madness. Should they choose to embrace it, they will join the Town side with whatever powers they have. Some are weak, and if they choose to repel the madness your power will kill them. Some are strong enough to repel the madness if they so choose with no consequence, and some can't be turned at all. If you flay someone who is already Town there will be no effect.
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Post by Colby11 on Oct 25, 2012 0:15:10 GMT -5
My apologies about thinking that you lied. I do think that you are attempting to help.
I had originally read my role to mean that either they become town, decline and die, or just can't be recruited... Apparently I need to read more.. And sniff out breadcrumbs better...
(but if you are playing me for a fool, well done sir... Well done.)
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Post by Meeko on Oct 25, 2012 9:13:27 GMT -5
It would not change your powers... Per my PM Powers1. Once per Day, you may choose a target to mind flay. At Dusk, your target will find themselves gripped with the tentacles of madness. Should they choose to embrace it, they will join the Town side with whatever powers they have. Some are weak, and if they choose to repel the madness your power will kill them. Some are strong enough to repel the madness if they so choose with no consequence, and some can't be turned at all. If you flay someone who is already Town there will be no effect. Note that yours says "Should they CHOOSE to embrace it" hence, this is not a mandatory thing. The following is from my PM. Bold added. is only available if you are third-party or self-aligned. Since you are choosing a side from recruitment instead of being attacked, you'll lose the ability once you become Town.
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