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Post by sinjin on Nov 7, 2012 22:24:31 GMT -5
crap and my wincon did not get highlighted but you know it already:
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Post by LightFoot on Nov 7, 2012 22:27:27 GMT -5
I protected your ass last night Meeko because I thought you were going to join town and the liars left in the game would try to target you. Why the hell do you think SisC and IS are still alive? Did meeko add to his PM or this is a puzzle indeed didn't someone else reference princess peach? or a princess peach-like role?
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Post by LightFoot on Nov 7, 2012 22:51:56 GMT -5
re-reading meeko's post visited by a stranger that he fought off and sinjin visited could be the scenerio
so he watched 'isself one visitor was cloaked somehow and he could only identify sinjin
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Post by LightFoot on Nov 7, 2012 23:02:26 GMT -5
Unvote: sinjin on re-read
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Post by gnarlycharlie on Nov 7, 2012 23:28:58 GMT -5
so does that mean there's a hostile hiding in the Town list?
we assumed the six Town (based on Red's info) were:
1. SisC 2. Inner 3. Colby 4. Ginger 5. lauriern 6. gnarlycharlie
SisC and Inner are definitely on my Town list especially the latter as i have an investigation on him. Colby seems to be who he claims to be based on laurie and Meeko's separate accounts.
that leaves laurie, Ginger, sinjin and me. laurie is likely town but she may have again refused recruitment to achieve her wincon. Ginger is a question mark. sinjin could be town or 3rd party doc but doesn't want to say so. she's scanned as non-hostile but may be scum with some sort of godfather ability. finally, i have only my investigations as evidence.
so if Red was truthful, we have a liar. if Red wasn't, maybe the game ends toNight.
sinjin, can you list your targets these past Nights?
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Post by LightFoot on Nov 8, 2012 0:11:51 GMT -5
so does that mean there's a hostile hiding in the Town list? we assumed the six Town (based on Red's info) were: 1. SisC2. Inner3. Colby4. Ginger5. lauriern6. gnarlycharlieSisC and Inner are definitely on my Town list especially the latter as i have an investigation on him. Colby seems to be who he claims to be based on laurie and Meeko's separate accounts. that leaves laurie, Ginger, sinjin and me. laurie is likely town but she may have again refused recruitment to achieve her wincon. Ginger is a question mark. sinjin could be town or 3rd party doc but doesn't want to say so. she's scanned as non-hostile but may be scum with some sort of godfather ability. finally, i have only my investigations as evidence. so if Red was truthful, we have a liar. if Red wasn't, maybe the game ends toNight. sinjin, can you list your targets these past Nights? was Laurie recruited before Red gave us numbers or after? Speaking of Red it's likely that his numbers were accurate since he did not know who he was completely until the Night he died He was my other half and I "found" him that Night just before another visitor killed him
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Post by Sister Coyote on Nov 8, 2012 0:27:24 GMT -5
Princess Peach matches the role name I was given for sinjin.
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Post by Meeko on Nov 8, 2012 0:34:06 GMT -5
Below I post my Role Pm in its entirety. Obviously, until now, I have redacted a few items, as I felt it was in my best interest to do so. Some people refer to these things as "Insurance". I have done a few things in this game, that I think have been worth their weight in gold.
We got Dizzy in this manner.
I think we are about to get Sinjin in this manner as well.
Given that my Power at Number 3 was triggered, AND that I have a current offer to join town, AND that Sinjin was the only person in my room last night (And add any number of "Because we killed X Y Z scucm already)
I think Sinjin is lying.
I have nothing left to lose at this point. I have nothing left to hide.
We got Dizzy because I sandbagged. I think we got Sinjin in the same manner.
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Post by Meeko on Nov 8, 2012 0:47:26 GMT -5
I protected your ass last night Meeko because I thought you were going to join town and the liars left in the game would try to target you. Why the hell do you think SisC and IS are still alive? How could I have join town last night?
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Post by LightFoot on Nov 8, 2012 1:18:20 GMT -5
Princess Peach matches the role name I was given for sinjin. Did you post that somewhere before or am I remembering another princess peach reference?
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Post by Meeko on Nov 8, 2012 1:30:16 GMT -5
re-reading meeko's post visited by a stranger that he fought off and sinjin visited could be the scenerio so he watched 'isself one visitor was cloaked somehow and he could only identify sinjin I asked in pm if I could watch myself. Last night was not the first night I did so. I even argued that I should have been able to have watched my self the night of the massive role block. I had targeted my self that night too. My take on this, is that as a scum NK attempt happened, Pollux wrote out the pm for that, first. THEN, came back through and applied my WATCH Abillity. That is, the always on power, that I don't get to choose was automatic. Pollux knew how he would write that out to me. BUT THEN he had to update the pm, to include the watching, that was not automatic. At the point I chose to watch, he had to .... In so many words, over do the pm. That is to say, they are separate timing steps, but they do not disagree, I believe the ... Clunkyness of the pm is the only way Pollux could have done it. It is the only way it could have worked. If not sinjn then who? Aren't we down to one sum now? We no longer have the merc, so that's out. My pm has been given. Sinjins was given.... Over two posts. Convient that the wincon given is the freely given wincon. I don't read my role pm as letting someone sneak in and kill me. The pm says ANY one that comes. I read that to mean ALL. I had scum attempt to hit me, I have an active offer to join town because of it. If sinjn is a town doctor, and targeted me, why then did I fight off the attacker myself?
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Post by LightFoot on Nov 8, 2012 1:51:27 GMT -5
Since we know that recruitment can be waived off it's possible that one of our recruited Town players- isn't recruited to Town There has to be a bug in the ointment somewhere since the game is not over Is there a Scum that claimed 3rd and is skating if I had answers I would not be standing on the lynch platform being fitted for a rope Using Red and Sister's info: Most likely Town: 2. gnarlycharlie- 3rd party cop 3. colby11- Town recruiter 28. JustBeingGinger- town- Judge jury and executioner 14. Sister Coyote- town mason/investigator 16. LaurieRN- converted to town 20. Inner Stickler- town Vig Nonhostile according to Sister C 12. storyteller- nonhostile scan by SisC 27. Sinjin- scanned nonhostile by SisC Refused recruitment 5. Meeko- 3rd party watcher/tracker Must die 7. crys- 3rd party non hostile mad bomber 11. Lightfoot 18. Suburban Plankton If I use this list I'm the only one on the must die list left alive and I'm NOT Scum
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Post by LightFoot on Nov 8, 2012 2:07:31 GMT -5
A 3rd party cop could be Scum ( if scum need hostile 3P’s dead to win?)
The Town recruiter seems legit
JBG is semi proven
SisC seems legit- but do we know for sure that she is Town? Could there have been a town/scum mason team? (I doubt this, but I understand it has been done)
I’m not convinced Laurie has converted
Inner is a Vig no doubt do we Know he’s Town?
Story and sinjin were scanned non-hostile when they were scanned but are they still?
Meeko appears to have all his cards on the table
What does that tell
Me I still don’t know I targeted Laurie last Night to attempt to clear my own suspicions but was blocked I ain’t much help but maybe this will be read with clean glasses after my demise
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Post by Meeko on Nov 8, 2012 2:48:14 GMT -5
Princess Peach has a history of playing both sides?
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Post by Meeko on Nov 8, 2012 3:10:15 GMT -5
I protected your ass last night Meeko because I thought you were going to join town and the liars left in the game would try to target you. Why the hell do you think SisC and IS are still alive? This seems ..... Pingalicious. Liars!!! All of them, no matter what it is, they are all lying, all of them! Don't confuse me with the facts that no one actually made a statement. Don't confuse me with the fact that I didn't actually protect you. Frankly, did I come across as being that much in need of help? What are the odds that two people would have targeted me? How many other people are connected to other events last night? Don't know. This will probably never add up for me, in a way that moves my vote off of you, sinjin.
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Post by LightFoot on Nov 8, 2012 3:33:21 GMT -5
We know the vig travelled last Night (well it makes sense) I know I targeted a player (laurie) and was targeted by another (blocked) Meeko was targeted by atleast one ( sinjin) Sis works during the Day So that’s 4 mobile atleast and meeko stayed put
charlie Colby
Could have been wandering around? I don’t remember if there are others that have Night actions
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Post by gnarlycharlie on Nov 8, 2012 3:54:44 GMT -5
I think Sinjin is lying. I have nothing left to lose at this point. I have nothing left to hide. We got Dizzy because I sandbagged. I think we got Sinjin in the same manner. if sinjin is scum why did you get an offer to join Town? Colby needs to say whether he tried to recruit you. btw, does anyone remember if his power was a day or Night one? We know the vig travelled last Night (well it makes sense) I know I targeted a player (laurie) and was targeted by another (blocked) Meeko was targeted by atleast one ( sinjin) Sis works during the Day So that’s 4 mobile atleast and meeko stayed put charlie Colby Could have been wandering around? I don’t remember if there are others that have Night actions i don't see who could have blocked you. the scum roleblocker is dead and if there is a Town one, it seems to point to stopping an NK.
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Post by LightFoot on Nov 8, 2012 4:00:41 GMT -5
I think Sinjin is lying. I have nothing left to lose at this point. I have nothing left to hide. We got Dizzy because I sandbagged. I think we got Sinjin in the same manner. if sinjin is scum why did you get an offer to join Town? Colby needs to say whether he tried to recruit you. btw, does anyone remember if his power was a day or Night one? We know the vig travelled last Night (well it makes sense) I know I targeted a player (laurie) and was targeted by another (blocked) Meeko was targeted by atleast one ( sinjin) Sis works during the Day So that’s 4 mobile atleast and meeko stayed put charlie Colby Could have been wandering around? I don’t remember if there are others that have Night actions i don't see who could have blocked you. the scum roleblocker is dead and if there is a Town one, it seems to point to stopping an NK. DOn't know what to tell you charlie. other than you need to be aware there was a block last Night
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Post by LightFoot on Nov 8, 2012 4:03:57 GMT -5
for charlie if I read it right if meeko is attacked by one side he has the option to join the other
That would not involve the recruiter
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Post by gnarlycharlie on Nov 8, 2012 4:30:36 GMT -5
for charlie if I read it right if meeko is attacked by one side he has the option to join the other That would not involve the recruiter ah, interesting. i guess we wait for the others to wake up.
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Post by lauriern on Nov 8, 2012 7:55:40 GMT -5
Bolding mine, b/c I don't have time to separate out quotes:I think Sinjin is lying. I have nothing left to lose at this point. I have nothing left to hide. We got Dizzy because I sandbagged. I think we got Sinjin in the same manner. if sinjin is scum why did you get an offer to join Town? Colby needs to say whether he tried to recruit you. btw, does anyone remember if his power was a day or Night one? If I'm remembering correctly, Colby's power is a Day power. YesterDay he asked Meeko if he wanted to be offered recruitment & I don't think Meeko answered.We know the vig travelled last Night (well it makes sense) I know I targeted a player (laurie) and was targeted by another (blocked) Meeko was targeted by atleast one ( sinjin) Sis works during the Day So that’s 4 mobile atleast and meeko stayed put charlie Colby Could have been wandering around? I don’t remember if there are others that have Night actions i don't see who could have blocked you. the scum roleblocker is dead and if there is a Town one, it seems to point to stopping an NK. My point exactly.^^^^
I have to head off to work - will post more later.
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Post by Meeko on Nov 8, 2012 9:46:09 GMT -5
I think Sinjin is lying. I have nothing left to lose at this point. I have nothing left to hide. We got Dizzy because I sandbagged. I think we got Sinjin in the same manner. if sinjin is scum why did you get an offer to join Town? Colby needs to say whether he tried to recruit you. btw, does anyone remember if his power was a day or Night one? We know the vig travelled last Night (well it makes sense) I know I targeted a player (laurie) and was targeted by another (blocked) Meeko was targeted by atleast one ( sinjin) Sis works during the Day So that’s 4 mobile atleast and meeko stayed put charlie Colby Could have been wandering around? I don’t remember if there are others that have Night actions i don't see who could have blocked you. the scum roleblocker is dead and if there is a Town one, it seems to point to stopping an NK. if sinjin is scum why did you get an offer to join Town? Colby needs to say whether he tried to recruit you. btw, does anyone remember if his power was a day or Night one? No. He doesn't. Did you not read my role pm that I posted?
The first time I get NK'd by town or scum, I get an offer to join the opposite side. You were attacked last night by scum. You have the option of joining Town.
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Post by Meeko on Nov 8, 2012 9:50:04 GMT -5
Bolding mine, b/c I don't have time to separate out quotes:if sinjin is scum why did you get an offer to join Town? Colby needs to say whether he tried to recruit you. btw, does anyone remember if his power was a day or Night one? If I'm remembering correctly, Colby's power is a Day power. YesterDay he asked Meeko if he wanted to be offered recruitment & I don't think Meeko answered.i don't see who could have blocked you. the scum roleblocker is dead and if there is a Town one, it seems to point to stopping an NK. My point exactly.^^^^
I have to head off to work - will post more later. My response on Day 7 to recruitment I have a problem. Or two. First off, I am more in the camp being slower to trust the prevailing assumption that we know for certain that the last two scum are indeed the last two scum. To this end, I am not going to vote for plankton. Not sure I will be voting for anyone today. ( well in game, amirite? )
If we lynch scum today, then it will obviously add to towns apparent coasting to a win. I have asked the mod many questions about my alignment. If we can trust the town recruiter, then I might have to rely on that TWO dawns from now. If I accept recruitment, in addition to losing powers, I become "hostile". I am currently non-hostile. Yet, currently I do not interfere with towns wincon. The assumption is, once I become town, I become town, through and through, balls to bones. I have asked the Mod about the town win con. I am not an obstacle to town's wincon, I cannot prevent a town win. I cannot steal the win.
In short, I need more time. I need more time and more proof. I need "proof" as such that the game is going the way that it is going. As I stated earlier, if town has moved to a better game state, I am not against joining them. I just want to make sure this is not a mirage the game is going towards. I want to make sure my recruitment is understood by all, if and when I take it, that my moving to town actually helps town. Can we more or less confirm my conversion is pro-town? I just want to make sure that town is where town needs to be if I join them. ( can we trust that suburban and Lightfoot (is it) are scum?)
The best case scenario currently, as I see it, is that we have two scum left. This means we will have night 7. I still think it is better for me to have my powers tonight, over not.I can't make the jump quite yet.
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Post by Meeko on Nov 8, 2012 9:54:23 GMT -5
The best case scenario currently, as I see it, is that we have two scum left. This means we will have night 7. I still think it is better for me to have my powers tonight, over not.
I can't make the jump quite yet.
At this time, I had no open recruitment offer. I rejected the first offer given to me, thus taking it off the table. Both offers to join town have come with a "please respond by" type of clause.
I wanted to hold of deciding until AFTER my survival power was used. I wanted to catch someone In the act of NK ing me.
If I had joined town before that, this power would have been taken from me. - neutered.
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Post by gnarlycharlie on Nov 8, 2012 9:54:30 GMT -5
if sinjin is scum why did you get an offer to join Town? Colby needs to say whether he tried to recruit you. btw, does anyone remember if his power was a day or Night one? i don't see who could have blocked you. the scum roleblocker is dead and if there is a Town one, it seems to point to stopping an NK. if sinjin is scum why did you get an offer to join Town? Colby needs to say whether he tried to recruit you. btw, does anyone remember if his power was a day or Night one? No. He doesn't. Did you not read my role pm that I posted?
The first time I get NK'd by town or scum, I get an offer to join the opposite side. You were attacked last night by scum. You have the option of joining Town.
did you not read my exchange with Lightfoot? so how about lynching Lightfoot and vigging Meeko. if he's non-hostile, we lynch sinjin.
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Post by Meeko on Nov 8, 2012 10:04:48 GMT -5
Since we know that recruitment can be waived off it's possible that one of our recruited Town players- isn't recruited to Town There has to be a bug in the ointment somewhere since the game is not over Is there a Scum that claimed 3rd and is skating if I had answers I would not be standing on the lynch platform being fitted for a rope Using Red and Sister's info: Most likely Town: 2. gnarlycharlie- 3rd party cop 3. colby11- Town recruiter 28. JustBeingGinger- town- Judge jury and executioner 14. Sister Coyote- town mason/investigator 16. LaurieRN- converted to town 20. Inner Stickler- town Vig Nonhostile according to Sister C 12. storyteller- nonhostile scan by SisC 27. Sinjin- scanned nonhostile by SisC Refused recruitment 5. Meeko- 3rd party watcher/tracker Must die 7. crys- 3rd party non hostile mad bomber 11. Lightfoot 18. Suburban Plankton If I use this list I'm the only one on the must die list left alive and I'm NOT Scum There has to be a bug in the ointment somewhere since the game is not over
Could it be that Sinjin is scum, and thus, because sinjin is not dead, the game continues?
If someone doesn't believe me, please let me know why. I think it's obvious that I'm on a very very short list now.
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Post by Meeko on Nov 8, 2012 10:07:15 GMT -5
if sinjin is scum why did you get an offer to join Town? Colby needs to say whether he tried to recruit you. btw, does anyone remember if his power was a day or Night one? No. He doesn't. Did you not read my role pm that I posted?
The first time I get NK'd by town or scum, I get an offer to join the opposite side. You were attacked last night by scum. You have the option of joining Town.
did you not read my exchange with Lightfoot? so how about lynching Lightfoot and vigging Meeko. if he's non-hostile, we lynch sinjin. Now we get into my second tier of options. And what if I accept my current offer to join Town. Would you Vig a fellow Townie? Why are you convinced that Sinjin is truthful? why are you convinced that Sinjin is not a threat to Town? Who posted the more complete Role PM again?
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Post by Meeko on Nov 8, 2012 10:15:45 GMT -5
Gnarly
Why do you consider me as a candidate to be vigged?
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Post by Sister Coyote on Nov 8, 2012 11:16:07 GMT -5
Actually, Meeko, if lynching Lightfoot doesn't end the game, then both you and charlie are on my list of people who should probably be vigged.
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Post by Sister Coyote on Nov 8, 2012 11:17:07 GMT -5
Princess Peach matches the role name I was given for sinjin. Did you post that somewhere before or am I remembering another princess peach reference? Someone else claimed to have a "Princess Peach-type role". And I think Pizza may have mentioned the name.
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