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Dec 5, 2012 14:26:24 GMT -5
Post by Sister Coyote on Dec 5, 2012 14:26:24 GMT -5
mod request: can we please get a fucking vote count? What do you think, guys? Should I give him a vote count or string him along some more? Yes.
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Dec 5, 2012 14:28:37 GMT -5
Post by Chucara on Dec 5, 2012 14:28:37 GMT -5
I'd say, wait at least 2 hours
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Post by crys on Dec 5, 2012 15:51:13 GMT -5
mod request: can we please get a fucking vote count? What do you think, guys? Should I give him a vote count or string him along some more? Your the mod sooooo I guess it up to you lol
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Day Two
Dec 5, 2012 16:01:20 GMT -5
Post by KidVermicious on Dec 5, 2012 16:01:20 GMT -5
Peeker (1): MHaye(19)
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Dec 5, 2012 16:12:36 GMT -5
Post by Chucara on Dec 5, 2012 16:12:36 GMT -5
Ok, so peeker can't vote Mahaloth, and Mahaloth can't vote Peeker.
And MHaye: Why did you vote?
For me that makes it established fact that Mahaloth and Peeker are on the same team. Which team that is is not proven, but I'm willing to believe them.
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Dec 5, 2012 16:36:11 GMT -5
Post by LightFoot on Dec 5, 2012 16:36:11 GMT -5
So we see that mahaloth and peeker’s votes don’t count against each other What does this tell us? Should we assume that this holds for all LE and CG players or just some? Should we also assume Burbs (7): Wombat (237), SisC (238), Colby (283), Mhaye (378), Lightfoot (417), Peeker (423), Mahaloth (453) Mahaloth (4): Crys (241), Pollux (271), Pizzaguy (290), Chucara (409) Lightfoot (3): Burbs (66), Drain Bead (138), Patricia (381) Peeker (2): Dizzy (88), Gnarly (150) Hockey Monkey (2): Astral (145), Guiri (310) Meeko (1): Laurie (397) Laurie (1): Hockey Monkey (468) Read more: www.idlemafia.com/index.cgi?board=awt&action=display&thread=2074#ixzz2EDOLcv5S The players voting Burbs Are Not Lawful Evil? The players voting Mahaloth /peeker are not Chaotic Good? Doesn’t that narrow the field for their respective RKillers It would certainly Oh and it gives the Chaotic Evil a lovely bit of intel on every death reveal ( all three factions really) I see the birth of a spreadsheet But a game that can be broken by a spread sheet in a few Days is not a good set up- so Assume Nothing
the information can be used as a data point however
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Day Two
Dec 5, 2012 16:40:36 GMT -5
Post by LightFoot on Dec 5, 2012 16:40:36 GMT -5
NETA if we use this matrix then
MHaye is neither LE or CG
would you design a game with these absolutes?
There have to be exceptions IMO
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Day Two
Dec 5, 2012 17:12:40 GMT -5
Post by peekercpa on Dec 5, 2012 17:12:40 GMT -5
Ok, so peeker can't vote Mahaloth, and Mahaloth can't vote Peeker. And MHaye: Why did you vote? For me that makes it established fact that Mahaloth and Peeker are on the same team. Which team that is is not proven, but I'm willing to believe them. actually i couldn't have scripted it better. it at least shows that votes count. it also establishes that neither i or maha or lawful evil.
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Dec 5, 2012 17:15:15 GMT -5
Post by peekercpa on Dec 5, 2012 17:15:15 GMT -5
and to our other mate(s) no need to vote now to prove a point.
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Dec 5, 2012 17:16:42 GMT -5
Post by guiri on Dec 5, 2012 17:16:42 GMT -5
Forever and ever?what was the spread on how many of each faction? 3 CG, CE and LE, 10 LG. but if all lawful good have a board then it would seem like really unfair to the evil teams since they could just cross confirm each other and poof, fat lady sings. evil as in non-LG? KidV said "All alignments except Town have offboards to communicate, and may only use them at Night." KidV's rules seem to indicate that there are remorseful killers on three teams: I've decided that I'm not going to count their vote at all, it won't show up at all in vote counts that provide. This is not an immediate death sentence via opposing vig, because a) they can fake a failure to vote and b) there's going to be a LG Remorseful Killer as well and even if a CG/LE vig spots somebody not voting, they won't know if that's the opposing vig and a safe target or the LG vig. Lots of WIFOM for everyone. 1. If a town doc protected one of the claimed 3rd parties last Night, I'll vow to avoid signing up for multi faction games in the future, I just don't get it. 2. Meeko was MVP in the All Star game but I'm a little surprised he was NKed, Astral may have been a good choice for scum but he wasn't LG so, either way, it's almost certain that there was a cross-kill last Night and it's possible that we can identify one or more of the killers if they've lost their vote. 3. So, I'd like to suggest that, as quickly as possible and without causing distraction, every player places a single vote, on Peeker or me if you prefer. Mhaye's already proven his vote 4. Peeker and Mahaloth may be able to provide this information directly and allow us to continue with the Day, if so, please share Vote Peeker
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Dec 5, 2012 17:18:46 GMT -5
Post by Merestil Haye on Dec 5, 2012 17:18:46 GMT -5
And MHaye: Why did you vote? To establish a control vote that would be counted. I wanted to avoid D02.012 shenanigans again. That is the most likely explanation yes. I'm prepared to adopt the hypothesis until clear evidence to the contrary appears.
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Dec 5, 2012 17:19:30 GMT -5
Post by peekercpa on Dec 5, 2012 17:19:30 GMT -5
however, if you get in any type of lynch danger we will bail you out. and the vote will prove you are one of us. kind of like a little group of masons wouldn't you say?
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Dec 5, 2012 17:29:04 GMT -5
Post by Merestil Haye on Dec 5, 2012 17:29:04 GMT -5
Oh yes.
Unvote: peekercpa
It's done what I expected.
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Dec 5, 2012 17:30:05 GMT -5
Post by peekercpa on Dec 5, 2012 17:30:05 GMT -5
So we see that mahaloth and peeker’s votes don’t count against each other What does this tell us? The players voting Burbs Are Not Lawful Evil? The players voting Mahaloth /peeker are not Chaotic Good? Doesn’t that narrow the field for their respective RKillers It would certainly Oh and it gives the Chaotic Evil a lovely bit of intel on every death reveal ( all three factions really) I see the birth of a spreadsheet But a game that can be broken by a spread sheet in a few Days is not a good set up- so Assume Nothing
the information can be used as a data point however <i snipped it a touch> no one in my group can have a vote against another in the group count. mehtinks i sense a touch of frustration in this post. certainly if you are LE i can understand. and to some extent killing me or maha at this point merely confirms at least one other. that's got to be danger danger will robinson for anyone with an e in their role. so we play flinch.
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Day Two
Dec 5, 2012 17:38:50 GMT -5
Post by guiri on Dec 5, 2012 17:38:50 GMT -5
But a game that can be broken by a spread sheet in a few Days is not a good set up- so I don't know about a few Days - based on vote records so far my spread sheet gives me 8 possible buddies of Mahaloth & Peeker, 11 possible buddies of Astral & Suburban, and 19 potential CE.
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Dec 5, 2012 17:39:14 GMT -5
Post by peekercpa on Dec 5, 2012 17:39:14 GMT -5
Forever and ever?3 CG, CE and LE, 10 LG. evil as in non-LG? KidV said "All alignments except Town have offboards to communicate, and may only use them at Night." KidV's rules seem to indicate that there are remorseful killers on three teams: I've decided that I'm not going to count their vote at all, it won't show up at all in vote counts that provide. This is not an immediate death sentence via opposing vig, because a) they can fake a failure to vote and b) there's going to be a LG Remorseful Killer as well and even if a CG/LE vig spots somebody not voting, they won't know if that's the opposing vig and a safe target or the LG vig. Lots of WIFOM for everyone. 1. If a town doc protected one of the claimed 3rd parties last Night, I'll vow to avoid signing up for multi faction games in the future, I just don't get it. 2. Meeko was MVP in the All Star game but I'm a little surprised he was NKed, Astral may have been a good choice for scum but he wasn't LG so, either way, it's almost certain that there was a cross-kill last Night and it's possible that we can identify one or more of the killers if they've lost their vote. 3. So, I'd like to suggest that, as quickly as possible and without causing distraction, every player places a single vote, on Peeker or me if you prefer. Mhaye's already proven his vote 4. Peeker and Mahaloth may be able to provide this information directly and allow us to continue with the Day, if so, please share Vote Peeker this is danger. only scum would suggest this. it merely outs the rest of us. don't fucking vote for me or maha. vote for guiri. i know he is not one of us. unvote all[/color] vote guiriand let's see what happens. maha please vote for guiri. if neither of our votes show up then i will suggest that our other mate(s) also vote him. their can't be three fucking vote blockers in this bitch. mod question: can we get a vote count in about two hours?
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Dec 5, 2012 17:42:07 GMT -5
Post by Chucara on Dec 5, 2012 17:42:07 GMT -5
Guiri: 1. Have I missed your claim? Are you claiming yourself on the same team as Peeker and Mahaloth? 2. Are there 'only' 3 of you in this game as well? 3. Do you have an investigator in your team? 4. Aren't you afraid of dying from the LE team by all claiming? 5. Why all the confusion. Did peeker and Mahaloth not know it was you? 6. Why all the voting. Personally, if you claim yourself on the same team as them, I believe you.
Everyone What do you make of all of this CG/LE stuff? Personally, I just find it distracting. I don't really care if LE or CG wins, as long as LG wins.
I do see an opportunity in allying ourselves with one or both 3rd party teams.
And yes, I am claiming LG, and no - I don't see how claiming town in this game is any worse than claiming town in any other game. If CE wants to use this to NK me, it's a risk I'm willing to take.
Anyone, I am all for discovering who is third party and who is not. If LG has an investigator, he/she has a smaller pool to hide in, but he/she also has a smaller pool to investigate. In the end, I believe this to be a plus for LG.
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Day Two
Dec 5, 2012 17:42:14 GMT -5
Post by guiri on Dec 5, 2012 17:42:14 GMT -5
Peeker, you have nothing to say about last Night?
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Dec 5, 2012 17:43:04 GMT -5
Post by peekercpa on Dec 5, 2012 17:43:04 GMT -5
and one other tidbit for the crowd. i know that other factions with offboard communication ability have been granted the ability to strategize this Day because of some stupid shit i did yesterDay.
i still humbly request your apology mog.
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Dec 5, 2012 17:44:46 GMT -5
Post by peekercpa on Dec 5, 2012 17:44:46 GMT -5
Peeker, you have nothing to say about last Night? what would you like me to add?
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Day Two
Dec 5, 2012 17:48:10 GMT -5
Post by patricia on Dec 5, 2012 17:48:10 GMT -5
Vote Guiri
I show my vote will count
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Dec 5, 2012 17:48:25 GMT -5
Post by guiri on Dec 5, 2012 17:48:25 GMT -5
If you have a remorseful killer, and if they attempted to kill someone last Night, did they hit Astral or Meeko? If they hit Astral, then their vote is intact but if they hit Meeko, they will have lost their vote. You could possibly save everyone having to vote and wait for a vote count by telling us now.
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Dec 5, 2012 17:50:32 GMT -5
Post by peekercpa on Dec 5, 2012 17:50:32 GMT -5
chuckie i know who is on my team. guiri is not.
and i agree with thunderbolt. we really are about a hair's width away from winning this for good. don't know if that means the setup needs to be tweaked or it just means never put me and maha and yet to be disclosed on the same team.
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Dec 5, 2012 17:50:37 GMT -5
Post by Chucara on Dec 5, 2012 17:50:37 GMT -5
Seriously, I have no idea what is happening in this game. Why are we supposed to vote guiri?
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Dec 5, 2012 17:51:55 GMT -5
Post by peekercpa on Dec 5, 2012 17:51:55 GMT -5
If you have a remorseful killer, and if they attempted to kill someone last Night, did they hit Astral or Meeko? If they hit Astral, then their vote is intact but if they hit Meeko, they will have lost their vote. You could possibly save everyone having to vote and wait for a vote count by telling us now. so you have a remorseful killer on your team that whacked badly?
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Dec 5, 2012 17:53:38 GMT -5
Post by guiri on Dec 5, 2012 17:53:38 GMT -5
Vote Guiri I show my vote will count Great choice. So that no vote means Maha and Peek are on the same good team so now I need to find a new place to put my vote New place? What happened to your suspicions on Lightfoot? Why were you going to vote Mahaloth or Peeker before but not now, or was that just distancing?
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Dec 5, 2012 17:53:48 GMT -5
Post by peekercpa on Dec 5, 2012 17:53:48 GMT -5
i don't know much about killing. remember i and my group are masons. we build.
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Dec 5, 2012 17:55:47 GMT -5
Post by peekercpa on Dec 5, 2012 17:55:47 GMT -5
Vote Guiri I show my vote will count Great choice. So that no vote means Maha and Peek are on the same good team so now I need to find a new place to put my vote New place? What happened to your suspicions on Lightfoot? Why were you going to vote Mahaloth or Peeker before but not now, or was that just distancing? you are the one that suggested a vote on me or you, ffs. criminy. and since i am basically confirmed any numbskull would vote you.
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Dec 5, 2012 17:56:57 GMT -5
Post by peekercpa on Dec 5, 2012 17:56:57 GMT -5
neta: and sorry patricia for inferring that you are a numbskull.
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Dec 5, 2012 17:57:52 GMT -5
Post by peekercpa on Dec 5, 2012 17:57:52 GMT -5
Seriously, I have no idea what is happening in this game. Why are we supposed to vote guiri? it was his suggestion.
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