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Day Six
Jan 11, 2013 6:40:41 GMT -5
Post by KidVermicious on Jan 11, 2013 6:40:41 GMT -5
Mafia is a cruel mistress. Sometimes fighting as hard as you can for your team makes you a target. Other times you can hang back and try not to draw too much attention, and still be a target.
And sometimes you go to the hospital trying desperately not to kick the bucket while there's still Mafia to be played and tequila to drink, but that won't do you any good either. Probably bad karma from trashtalking the game mod.
Peeker, Chaotic Good Vanilla, and Hockey Monkey, Lawful Good Vanilla have run off and joined the Choir Invisible.
It's Day Six. With 11 players alive, 6 votes on one player will start a 24 hour countdown to EOD.
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Day Six
Jan 11, 2013 10:26:53 GMT -5
Post by texcat on Jan 11, 2013 10:26:53 GMT -5
Ugh. 2 more dead. 11 alive and it seems like half of them are missing. I don't even remember the last time we saw Drain or Pollux. This is not the way I wanted to wake up this morning. At least I have my cinnamon toast and coffee which I'd love to share with anyone who shows up.
In the meantime, I am going to renew my vote from yesterDay on Patricia. I think Lightfoot made the original case on her and we now know we can trust Lightfoot.
Vote: Patricia
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Day Six
Jan 11, 2013 11:19:30 GMT -5
Post by patricia on Jan 11, 2013 11:19:30 GMT -5
And texcat as I'm CG as everyone knows that makes you either LE or CE either way you need to go Vote texcat
PS yes lightfoot made a case on me - that is when I soft claimed CG and was confirmed by my teammates which was good enough for lightfoot BTW
I hope you enjoyed your kill last night because if I can help it it will be your last.
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Day Six
Jan 11, 2013 11:20:27 GMT -5
Post by patricia on Jan 11, 2013 11:20:27 GMT -5
and if it is not clear to everyone LE is working with CE - that we now know as fact
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Day Six
Jan 11, 2013 11:23:52 GMT -5
Post by patricia on Jan 11, 2013 11:23:52 GMT -5
and one more thing LE had a total of 5 or 6 to start so with the amount of LG dead it looks bad for the good team.
PS: Teamate who has been waiting today would be a good day
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Day Six
Jan 11, 2013 11:31:36 GMT -5
Post by Hockey Monkey! on Jan 11, 2013 11:31:36 GMT -5
I'm surprised I lasted this long. Have fun guys.
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Day Six
Jan 11, 2013 11:34:37 GMT -5
Post by texcat on Jan 11, 2013 11:34:37 GMT -5
Hmm... I guess I need a reread. I totally missed your soft claim. I know peeker proclaimed you as "good", but don't remember him saying that you were on his team. Why didn't you mention this yesterDay when I voted you? Would you care to temporarily move your vote to Mahaloth or Drain so that we can confirm your claim?
As to the team that is working with CE, it clearly appears to me that CG is the one who is killing town off right and left. Is it possible that you are scum and hoping that the CG team that has done so much for scum in the past will let you hide among its members? Or am I just getting too paranoid?
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Day Six
Jan 11, 2013 11:51:06 GMT -5
Post by patricia on Jan 11, 2013 11:51:06 GMT -5
Yesterday I was trying to save lightfoot - I wasn't worried about a single vote on me I will do as you asked but - it may be hours before the mod is around again to do a vote count unvote texcat vote mahaloth
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Day Six
Jan 11, 2013 11:51:28 GMT -5
Post by gnarlycharlie on Jan 11, 2013 11:51:28 GMT -5
And texcat as I'm CG as everyone knows that makes you either LE or CE either way you need to go Vote texcatPS yes lightfoot made a case on me - that is when I soft claimed CG and was confirmed by my teammates which was good enough for lightfoot BTW I hope you enjoyed your kill last night because if I can help it it will be your last. if texcat is CE and you're CG, why does she have to go? i think it's disingenuous to say that Good have to win. CG can win with LG or CE. and if it is not clear to everyone LE is working with CE - that we now know as fact how do you know that as a fact? according to the rules, the non-LG faction members can communicate with each other but not the other factions. how are they colluding? you're beginning to sound like peeker. i'm not sure if texcat is LE. she helped the drive on SisC. and if she is LE, that would point to LE and CE not colluding. will look into the case on Red and Mhaye. i recall some discussion on those two.
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Day Six
Jan 11, 2013 12:30:37 GMT -5
Post by wombat99 on Jan 11, 2013 12:30:37 GMT -5
Question for Texcat: Why did you move your vote to Lightfoot to save Red Skeezix? What do you know about him and why was it so important that he not be lynched? What has he contributed to the game ( on this board at least) that made that vote move necessary? Vote: Red Skeezix Texcat and MHaye are also on my List of Evil Players Who Should be Lynched. Texcat for moving to save her E teammate Red, and continuing to ignore CG's investigation (?) result of Patricia being G. She's not working for a G win. and MHaye for the case I already made Yesterday: <FONT style="FONT-SIZE: 12px">Is the case against Lightfoot anything other than gut feeling and supposed PIS? I'm not seeing it. If I've missed something, please set me straight, but this feels like an orchestrated bandwagon with not much substance. Vote: MHaye His actions vis-a-vis SisC look very suspicious and I believe they are on the same CE team. He placed a one-off vote on her on Day 3 (bussing for some townie cred) but then declined to vote for her Yesterday, when she was in actual danger of being lynched, until prodded. I do not buy the explanation of not wanting to bring Sis to within one vote of the hammer to start the countdown. No need to be overly concerned that discussion would be stifled - it was lagging, and Sis had had her say. I say this was an attempt to save a teammate and prevent the Day from ending with her in the lead for the lynch.
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Day Six
Jan 11, 2013 12:41:52 GMT -5
Post by lauriern on Jan 11, 2013 12:41:52 GMT -5
Ugh. 2 more dead. 11 alive and it seems like half of them are missing. I don't even remember the last time we saw Drain or Pollux. This is not the way I wanted to wake up this morning. At least I have my cinnamon toast and coffee which I'd love to share with anyone who shows up. In the meantime, I am going to renew my vote from yesterDay on Patricia. I think Lightfoot made the original case on her and we now know we can trust Lightfoot. Vote: Patricia You're right about not seeing Pollux and he is busy in another game. Meta gamey, maybe, but: Vote: Pollux I want to make sure I get a vote in. Date night with hubby today and tonight, so will be looking at how things switched from Red to Lightfoot yesterday. Maybe nothing, but I'll look when I get time.
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Day Six
Jan 11, 2013 12:48:16 GMT -5
Post by Mahaloth on Jan 11, 2013 12:48:16 GMT -5
Patricia is on the CG team.
Vote Texcat
Vote Red Skeezix
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Day Six
Jan 11, 2013 13:43:21 GMT -5
Post by texcat on Jan 11, 2013 13:43:21 GMT -5
Could we have a vote count please?
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Day Six
Jan 11, 2013 13:55:06 GMT -5
Post by texcat on Jan 11, 2013 13:55:06 GMT -5
Question for Texcat: Why did you move your vote to Lightfoot to save Red Skeezix? What do you know about him and why was it so important that he not be lynched? What has he contributed to the game ( on this board at least) that made that vote move necessary? Texcat for moving to save her E teammate Red, and continuing to ignore CG's investigation (?) result of Patricia being G. She's not working for a G win. I said Yesterday when I moved my vote that I did not think that RedSk could be CE because he started the Pizza lynch. I asked for a clarification on the Patricia investigation several times Yesterday. If it was an investigation, as I thought Yesterday, I'm not sure we can rely on the results because of the possible Godfather role. I did not ignore it, I asked for clarification about it. From yesterday: Here's my problem with the proclamation. Patricia has shown a woeful ignorance of the mechanics of the game, particularly as it relates to CG. and Ginger had to be killed by either LE or CE - I'm leaning towards CE so today I think we should look toward people voting for or looking at ginger in the past. so CE was blocked? so if someone can claim a block we would have a good name for CE - anyone want to claim a block last night? Mahaloth - I ddn't think you could kill someone that shares a alignment??? ginger was lg and you are cg??? If she is CG, I certainly don't appreciate her lying so blatantly. If she is LG, then I'd like to know how you know. If CG has an investigator, would it not be in Town's interest to share the results? It's hard for me to believe that you are really working in Town's interest when you have killed two LGs and are hiding information from Town. In this case the investigator would not even have to claim for Town to have the information, it would certainly be possible for you to tell us. I also note that among the possible CE roles is a Godfather. My vote is going to remain on Patricia. Patricia claims not have known that her CG teammates killed Ginger, and further claims that she didn't even know it was possible for CG to kill Ginger. Is this supposed to be the soft claim she talked about?
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Day Six
Jan 11, 2013 15:45:21 GMT -5
Post by patricia on Jan 11, 2013 15:45:21 GMT -5
Sorry Texcat if you don't like how I or my team has played - we didn't see any reason to claim as a whole team and felt that coming out and gving 3 names would be enough - alas you don't seem happy - LE has been working for a CE win and if you don't believe me look at last nights kills - we no longer have our killer as was spelled out for all. I will try to give town as much to go on as I can before I'm killed by LE. They have 4 team members left and that is big with 11 players total. I claimed and changed my vote - what are you going to do to show good faith?? WHY SHOULD WE NOT LYNCH YOU???
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Day Six
Jan 11, 2013 18:50:22 GMT -5
Post by wombat99 on Jan 11, 2013 18:50:22 GMT -5
If we started at something like 10/5/5/5, then the balance of g to e is very close. Possibly even tipped in favor of e.
It is essential that g votes as a bloc. I'm willing to lynch Texcat, Red, Crys, Pollux, Gnarly or MHaye today, but we have got to pick one and not split our votes and allow e to bandwagon another g.
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Day Six
Jan 11, 2013 18:58:52 GMT -5
Post by Red Skeezix on Jan 11, 2013 18:58:52 GMT -5
As far as my lynch vs lightfoot, well: It was down to me or her. Was I supposed to just lay down and be lynched? Not likely, especially not for an unconfirmed player, who claimed vanilla LG. But as I said yesterDay i'd rather have voted for MHaye.
I think he's CE. He was very adamant about Lightfoot being LG. That in addition to The post I discussed yesterday was super duper scummy. He voted for suburban on day 1, which puts him out of the running for LE. And peeker voted for him on day 4, so he's not CG. In addition to that, he one offed a known CE (SisC), then hesitated to vote for her because he didn't want to get closer to the threshold (8 days after the day had started).
Also he, was late to the "Pizza Party" on day 2.
His whole record is scummy, and if you are against CE, you should be voting for him today.
vote MHaye
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Day Six
Jan 11, 2013 20:07:08 GMT -5
Post by patricia on Jan 11, 2013 20:07:08 GMT -5
I'm good with a mhaye vote - will post that vote after the vote count shows no vote for mahaloth
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Day Six
Jan 12, 2013 8:20:00 GMT -5
Post by wombat99 on Jan 12, 2013 8:20:00 GMT -5
Here's how I think the remaining alignments break down:
LG - me, Laurie LE - Texcat, Red, Gnarly CE - MHaye, Pollux, Crys CG - Mahaloth, Patricia, Drain
It's looking a bit grim, G's. If anyone has any tricks left in their magic bags, it's time to use them to take out some E's.
Red needs to die. He's an LE and he has a power, possibly the vig. Vote Red or give a darn good reason why you aren't. Texcat and MHaye can wait.
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Day Six
Jan 12, 2013 8:25:31 GMT -5
Post by wombat99 on Jan 12, 2013 8:25:31 GMT -5
NETA - we have to lynch LE today because at some point, the CG's are going to (understandably) jump ship and throw their lot in with the CEs if they can't win with the quickly dwindling LGs.
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Day Six
Jan 12, 2013 8:56:27 GMT -5
Post by texcat on Jan 12, 2013 8:56:27 GMT -5
Wha???
Wombat if you really are LG you should concentrate on killing CE. Once all of the CE are dead, LG wins. Killing LE and CG doesn't really help LG very much.
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Day Six
Jan 12, 2013 8:59:37 GMT -5
Post by Red Skeezix on Jan 12, 2013 8:59:37 GMT -5
Here's how I think the remaining alignments break down: LG - me, Laurie LE - Texcat, Red, Gnarly CE - MHaye, Pollux, Crys CG - Mahaloth, Patricia, DrainIt's looking a bit grim, G's. If anyone has any tricks left in their magic bags, it's time to use them to take out some E's. Red needs to die. He's an LE and he has a power, possibly the vig. Vote Red or give a darn good reason why you aren't. Texcat and MHaye can wait. Here's a darn good reason, based on your scenario: 1. In your scenario, I'm not CE. 2. In your scenario, LG's are at lynch or lose. If a CE is not lynched today, then LG's lose, period. With only one LG left alive, after tomorrow and 3 CE's walking into tomorrow, The CE's won't be able to be lynched fast enough to prevent their victory, which means LG loses. If your scenario were correct and accurate, you'd be voting for your own loss.
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Day Six
Jan 12, 2013 15:41:32 GMT -5
Post by KidVermicious on Jan 12, 2013 15:41:32 GMT -5
Vote count!
Patricia (1): Texcat (1) Red Skeezix (1): Wombat (9) Pollux (1): Laurie (10) MHaye (1): Red (16)
The last valid vote was yesterday at 4:58, so the countdown will start in a little over 3 hours if there are no more valid votes.
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Day Six
Jan 12, 2013 16:21:12 GMT -5
Post by texcat on Jan 12, 2013 16:21:12 GMT -5
Unvote: Patticakes Vote: Pollux
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Day Six
Jan 12, 2013 16:58:28 GMT -5
Post by Merestil Haye on Jan 12, 2013 16:58:28 GMT -5
Here's the why:This entire post screams MHaye is scum. It's flip floppy. He believes that DrainBead is CG, But he thinks that she should be looked at tomorrow since she's quiet. He's making a strong defensive case on the vote leader. Plus he feels that he needs to make a vote. That's the pressure of being scum and not appearing on the did not vote list talking right there. Plus the king of all lurkers criticizing the number of posts lists is sooo out of character as to be borderline ridiculous. This post is hiding in plain sight as hard as one possibly can be.
Therefore, I'd lynch MHaye over lightfoot in a heartbeat. This post is a strange mixture. I'd categorise it as one part smudge, two parts mischaracterisation and one part what the heck was I thinking when I said that? Smudge: Red is deliberately smearing my Mafia playstyle, when he should know better. I am simply not a high-volume poster. I post sparingly unless I have something to say that needs driving home. My participation steps up as the number of players fall. This is true whether I am Town or Mafia. (I haven't played enough games as a third party to clearly establish how I play then, but it's probably the same.) Mischaracerisation 1: I was not building a defensive case for LightFoot. I was explaining why I was not intending to vote for her that Day. If I wanted to build a case, I'd have spent some time digging up a few supporting quotes. Just saying "I'm leaning Town on her" is not really an argument for her innocence. I did state an intention to review LightFoot's posting later, something that no longer needs doing (at least as far as determining LightFoot's alllegiance). Mischaracterisation 2 : Saying that needing to make a vote is a Mafia indicator. Rubbish. Sorry Red, but it is. Every living player needs to vote every Day to further the goals of their team. It's a comment I make to myself a lot, whatever side I'm on, and I suspect if you go through my Mafia history you'll find that I make statements indicating a need or intention to vote quite often. Even when I'm town. What was I thinking? : ie, what made me mention Drain Bead twice in the quoted post? Your guess is as good as mine. I blame it on brain fade, which is not as infrequent as I like. I really don't know what I was thinking of. Mea culpa. More in a mo.
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Day Six
Jan 12, 2013 18:51:14 GMT -5
Post by Merestil Haye on Jan 12, 2013 18:51:14 GMT -5
It's taking me longer (it always does).
So far, the only concrete conclusion I have come to is that Wombat99 isn't LE, since she had a vote for Suburban Plankton count Day 1. That's not much help. I'm also convinced that CE had a Strongman who used their power Night 1. (The only other possible explanation is that Ulla killed N1, and that's really not likely. I admit this is metagamey, and not helpful.)
I can't afford to have the countdown run on Sunday, as I'll only have 2-3 hours during the afternoon and I want more time.
Vote: Red Skeezix .
I'm convinced that Red is not LG. He could be CE or LE. Red, if I come to the conclusion that you're LE I will unvote you. Frankly you could probably confess to being LE and be safe. It's not in the interest of LG to lynch you right now - as you yourself explained, LG might well be at LYLO and must vote CE to avoid defeat.
This gives us another 24 hours.
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Day Six
Jan 13, 2013 13:17:06 GMT -5
Post by KidVermicious on Jan 13, 2013 13:17:06 GMT -5
Pollux (2): Laurie (10), Texcat (23) Red Skeezix (2): Wombat (9), MHaye (25) MHaye (1): Red (16)
The last valid vote was yesterday at 4:51, so the countdown will start in about 5 1/2 hours if there are no more valid votes.
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Day Six
Jan 13, 2013 21:11:46 GMT -5
Post by crys on Jan 13, 2013 21:11:46 GMT -5
First and foremost
Vote Pollux
I believe the way pollux is playing is very anti game, not to mention anti town.
Secondly, it looks like we are down to a game of numbers. Maybe it is in town's best interest to think about which side they want to win the game with. If LE and CG started with the same amount of players on their teams LE now has an advantage. If they were to claim it could shrink the pool that CE has to hide in.
Oh and wombat I am not CE.
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Day Six
Jan 13, 2013 22:57:45 GMT -5
Post by patricia on Jan 13, 2013 22:57:45 GMT -5
Vote MHaye
Crys - LE is working for a E win so they are not going to claim we have to find them - but first we need to go after CE
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Day Six
Jan 13, 2013 23:39:03 GMT -5
Post by gnarlycharlie on Jan 13, 2013 23:39:03 GMT -5
If we started at something like 10/5/5/5, then the balance of g to e is very close. Possibly even tipped in favor of e. It is essential that g votes as a bloc. I'm willing to lynch Texcat, Red, Crys, Pollux, Gnarly or MHaye today, but we have got to pick one and not split our votes and allow e to bandwagon another g. Here's how I think the remaining alignments break down: LG - me, Laurie LE - Texcat, Red, Gnarly CE - MHaye, Pollux, Crys CG - Mahaloth, Patricia, DrainIt's looking a bit grim, G's. If anyone has any tricks left in their magic bags, it's time to use them to take out some E's. Red needs to die. He's an LE and he has a power, possibly the vig. Vote Red or give a darn good reason why you aren't. Texcat and MHaye can wait. i know that others have commented on this before but i really need to ask, do you know the LG wincon? it is to eliminate all CE not all E. LG can win with LE. Red might be CE but your reasoning to vote him is flawed. if you are LG all you've done is put a target on yourself. your accusation of Red indicates that you are the LG watcher/tracker and will likely be dead toNight. NETA - we have to lynch LE today because at some point, the CG's are going to (understandably) jump ship and throw their lot in with the CEs if they can't win with the quickly dwindling LGs. what does this mean? how can CG throw their lot with the CEs? do they know who the CEs are? why would they do that in the first place? Vote MHayeCrys - LE is working for a E win so they are not going to claim we have to find them - but first we need to go after CE again, how do you know LE and CE are working together? they aren't talking to each other off-board. that would be breaking the rules. a CG and an LG were killed last Night. if they were colluding wouldn't two LGs or two CGs be dead? one reason CE has been able to target LG so well is that they are able to narrow the LG pool with all the CG claims. i suppose CG couldn't help it but that was the repercussion.
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