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Post by Pleonast on Feb 19, 2013 15:14:00 GMT -5
A quiet Night passes, but yet another victim is found at Dawn. Or at least their head is found, cleanly removed.
Lightfoot the Prophetess, a Pagan Investigator is dead.
It is now Day Four. It will end on Friday, Feb 22 at 12n PT.
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Post by Chucara on Feb 19, 2013 15:31:11 GMT -5
Hm.. Do we have a vig who thinks Pagans are not Town friendly? If so, I really don't think you should target them.
Alternatively, scum did the normal NK thing.
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Post by crys on Feb 19, 2013 15:52:43 GMT -5
Son of a bitch...my channel didn't open. Arrrg....it might have been a scum kill. sorry lightfoot Sent from my DROID RAZR using proboards
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Post by JustBeingGinger on Feb 19, 2013 16:24:57 GMT -5
RIP Lightfoot
What does everyone think about me revealing who I choose to pray for last night and my results? Should I or should I not a d the reasons...
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Post by dizzymrslizzy on Feb 19, 2013 16:37:15 GMT -5
I can't imagine it hurting at all Ginger.
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Post by storyteller0910 on Feb 19, 2013 16:55:53 GMT -5
CRAP, I forgot about the 24 hour Night.
Ugh, I am a lost cause.
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Post by Pleonast on Feb 19, 2013 17:04:54 GMT -5
In case someone hadn't thought about it, all players are allowed to submit action orders for the next Night or Day, as the case may be. Also, orders contingent on publicly available information is also allowed.
There's also the option of Filibuster in order to get longer Days and Nights.
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Post by Chucara on Feb 19, 2013 17:15:36 GMT -5
Note to everyone: I will be going to India for two weeks (work), but I will be able to continue playing once I get there. Not being entirely certain when the day ends, I think I may be on a plane at EOD.
Anyway, might I suggest that Today, we try to avoid having that close a tie? I don't see a town player being responsible for the lynch Yesterday, so it is obvious that scum has some sort of manipulator.
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Post by Chucara on Feb 19, 2013 17:18:10 GMT -5
Can we vote to filibuster the night here?
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Post by Chucara on Feb 19, 2013 17:21:00 GMT -5
In case anyone is wondering, I missed my night action. Sorry about that guys.
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Post by Pleonast on Feb 19, 2013 17:22:38 GMT -5
Can we vote to filibuster the night here? You can only vote to Filibuster the Day. However, if the Day is extended, so will be the Night.
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Post by texcat on Feb 19, 2013 17:22:50 GMT -5
And my PM said: "You are cleansed of all your sins." Thanks, Ryjae!
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Post by Holy Moley! on Feb 19, 2013 17:41:15 GMT -5
Hm.. Do we have a vig who thinks Pagans are not Town friendly? If so, I really don't think you should target them. Alternatively, scum did the normal NK thing. Nice bit of understatement there. The only possible justification for a non-devil killing a Pagan for me would be the possibility that they'd be targeted or recruitment by the devils. I don't know if this could be worse than BillMC's death in "Wonderland" (heck, I don't know if anything could be worse than BillMC's death in "Wonderland") but it sure as heck feels close to that. I flippin' hope the killer is a Christian and was redirected onto Lightfoot by another power. Because the alternatives, it seems to me, are: 1) We have a devil team who, despite having lost one of their members in the very first round, apparently still have a vote-charger power, a kill, and (according to Ginger) the possibility of night recruitment. Or: 2) We have a Christian or Heretic killer who's either so paranoid about third-parties or so insecure about their own convictions, they'd rather target a claimed semi-confirmed third-party than an actual devil suspect. Or: 3) We have a Heretic killer whose wincon includes "Must kill all Pagans to win" or something of the sort. Thereby making them potentially dangerously unpredictable. **************** Now two thirds of the players left in the game have some kind of "Mechanic" power at this point. Two people used such a power last night. One was Ginger. I don't know who the other one was. If that person is not a devil, and if they can do so without giving the devils essential information, would the person who used a "Mechanic" power last night please say who you are. You don't need to say how or why you used your power, just that you did. My purpose here, obviously, is to establish whether there was a recruitment last night. If nobody claims, we can take things from there. ***************** Third point: Hockeymonkey. I asked you a question yesterday and I don't think it was answered. I know that Chucara did not start this game as a devil. There are others - such as BillMC, Idle Thoughts and Wombat - who I thought, early in the game, were not devils. Do you know of any reason why these players may not have been "recruited" to the devilish side? ***************** Fourth point: Wombat. You are, at this time, the only claimed Heretic. A Christian would - or at least, should - have no reason to kill a Pagan, as per my own win condition. The devils may have some secret reason to want the Pagans dead, but it also seems at least likely, given what we know, that they'd prefer them alive as a distraction. Certainly there are a lot of Christian power roles claimed which would make more obvious targets. Finally there's the fact that the first two kills - especially the second - don't "fit" as scumkills. The devils' method, given Ginger's claim yesterday, seems to be recruitment, not killing. So... a Pagan most likely wouldn't kill another Pagan, a Christian most likely shouldn't kill a Pagan, and a devil most likely couldn't kill a Pagan. I think that's the most poetic way to put it. There's only one other claimed faction out there apart from these three. In light of this, would you care to revise your statement about your win condition? Also, can you please explain your vote on Kid Vermicious at the end of yesterday? ***************** Crys, same question to you. Do you have anything in your win condition to suggest that the Heretics, specifically, are a threat to you, or vice versa, that you haven't claimed yet? ***************** Final point. Vote: Texcat. Vote: Kid Vermicious.My reasons for both are at the end of the previous day. If either has something to say regarding why I shouldn't vote for them, or if Ryjae is in a position to confirm that Texcat is not a devil, I'm open to any good information right now.
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Post by Holy Moley! on Feb 19, 2013 17:42:40 GMT -5
And my PM said: "You are cleansed of all your sins." Thanks, Ryjae! Ryjae, can you confirm this?
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Post by Idle Thoughts on Feb 19, 2013 18:17:34 GMT -5
And my PM said: "You are cleansed of all your sins." Thanks, Ryjae! That's not what mine said on the Day after. Vote TexcatI guess it's possible Pleonast could have used different wording, but in this case he used VASTLY different wording. So it being META-GAMING or not, I'm happy voting for you for now.
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Post by Suburban Plankton on Feb 19, 2013 18:35:17 GMT -5
In case anyone is wondering, I missed my night action. Sorry about that guys. I know I speed-read the last Day or so, but I don't recall you telling us that you had a Night Action. Did I miss that?
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Post by Mahaloth on Feb 19, 2013 18:48:09 GMT -5
That was a very short Night. I somehow did not realize it was over. RIP Lightfoot.
I'm curious about Texcat's message. Would Pleo really use different language? Is it possible even Pleo was rushed in sending out Day PMs?
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Post by Chucara on Feb 19, 2013 18:50:17 GMT -5
Suburban: Night action, sin action, call it what you will.
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Post by Idle Thoughts on Feb 19, 2013 18:55:28 GMT -5
That was a very short Night. I somehow did not realize it was over. RIP Lightfoot. I'm curious about Texcat's message. Would Pleo really use different language? Is it possible even Pleo was rushed in sending out Day PMs? Mine has about the same number of words...it's also equally short and to the point. It just doesn't say what Texcat's says.
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Post by crys on Feb 19, 2013 19:06:53 GMT -5
Hm.. Do we have a vig who thinks Pagans are not Town friendly? If so, I really don't think you should target them. Alternatively, scum did the normal NK thing. Nice bit of understatement there. The only possible justification for a non-devil killing a Pagan for me would be the possibility that they'd be targeted or recruitment by the devils. I don't know if this could be worse than BillMC's death in "Wonderland" (heck, I don't know if anything could be worse than BillMC's death in "Wonderland") but it sure as heck feels close to that. I flippin' hope the killer is a Christian and was redirected onto Lightfoot by another power. Because the alternatives, it seems to me, are: 1) We have a devil team who, despite having lost one of their members in the very first round, apparently still have a vote-charger power, a kill, and (according to Ginger) the possibility of night recruitment. Or: 2) We have a Christian or Heretic killer who's either so paranoid about third-parties or so insecure about their own convictions, they'd rather target a claimed semi-confirmed third-party than an actual devil suspect. Or: 3) We have a Heretic killer whose wincon includes "Must kill all Pagans to win" or something of the sort. Thereby making them potentially dangerously unpredictable. **************** Now two thirds of the players left in the game have some kind of "Mechanic" power at this point. Two people used such a power last night. One was Ginger. I don't know who the other one was. If that person is not a devil, and if they can do so without giving the devils essential information, would the person who used a "Mechanic" power last night please say who you are. You don't need to say how or why you used your power, just that you did. My purpose here, obviously, is to establish whether there was a recruitment last night. If nobody claims, we can take things from there. ***************** Third point: Hockeymonkey. I asked you a question yesterday and I don't think it was answered. I know that Chucara did not start this game as a devil. There are others - such as BillMC, Idle Thoughts and Wombat - who I thought, early in the game, were not devils. Do you know of any reason why these players may not have been "recruited" to the devilish side? ***************** Fourth point: Wombat. You are, at this time, the only claimed Heretic. A Christian would - or at least, should - have no reason to kill a Pagan, as per my own win condition. The devils may have some secret reason to want the Pagans dead, but it also seems at least likely, given what we know, that they'd prefer them alive as a distraction. Certainly there are a lot of Christian power roles claimed which would make more obvious targets. Finally there's the fact that the first two kills - especially the second - don't "fit" as scumkills. The devils' method, given Ginger's claim yesterday, seems to be recruitment, not killing. So... a Pagan most likely wouldn't kill another Pagan, a Christian most likely shouldn't kill a Pagan, and a devil most likely couldn't kill a Pagan. I think that's the most poetic way to put it. There's only one other claimed faction out there apart from these three. In light of this, would you care to revise your statement about your win condition? Also, can you please explain your vote on Kid Vermicious at the end of yesterday? ***************** Crys, same question to you. Do you have anything in your win condition to suggest that the Heretics, specifically, are a threat to you, or vice versa, that you haven't claimed yet? ***************** Final point. Vote: Texcat. Vote: Kid Vermicious.My reasons for both are at the end of the previous day. If either has something to say regarding why I shouldn't vote for them, or if Ryjae is in a position to confirm that Texcat is not a devil, I'm open to any good information right now. No I don't have anything about heretics at all with my role. As far as the mechanic power it may have been me. My role type is mechanic and I tried to open a channel, but I was unsuccessful.
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Post by wombat99 on Feb 19, 2013 19:16:47 GMT -5
@Moley - My wincon is the same as the Christians' wincon and makes no reference to the Pagans.
I don't have a Killer role type, and I don't have any ability to kill or cause death.
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Post by Holy Moley! on Feb 19, 2013 19:42:03 GMT -5
@ Moley - My wincon is the same as the Christians' wincon and makes no reference to the Pagans. I don't have a Killer role type, and I don't have any ability to kill or cause death. It belatedly occurs to me that if you DID have a win condition warning that the Pagans were a threat to you or something, you'd hardly announce your alignment the moment that they started doing so. Another bad idea gone west. Question regarding the late Kid Vermicious vote still stands though.
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Post by texcat on Feb 19, 2013 19:52:09 GMT -5
That's not what mine said on the Day after. Vote TexcatI guess it's possible Pleonast could have used different wording, but in this case he used VASTLY different wording. So it being META-GAMING or not, I'm happy voting for you for now. I'm sure Ryjae will be along at some point to confirm my cleansing. Why would I lie about it?
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Post by wombat99 on Feb 19, 2013 19:53:42 GMT -5
@ Moley - My wincon is the same as the Christians' wincon and makes no reference to the Pagans. I don't have a Killer role type, and I don't have any ability to kill or cause death. It belatedly occurs to me that if you DID have a win condition warning that the Pagans were a threat to you or something, you'd hardly announce your alignment the moment that they started doing so. Another bad idea gone west. Question regarding the late Kid Vermicious vote still stands though. I wanted votes for KidV and Colby on record. (My Colby vote didn't count, though).
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Post by texcat on Feb 19, 2013 19:59:00 GMT -5
Moley, Didn't Scathach, the Gravedigger, claim a mechanic power to expose the role of the dead in the morning? Since we see Lightfoot's info, I would assume that might be the 2nd mechanic power.
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Post by wombat99 on Feb 19, 2013 20:00:51 GMT -5
Moley, Didn't Scathach, the Gravedigger, claim a mechanic power to expose the role of the dead in the morning? Since we see Lightfoot's info, I would assume that might be the 2nd mechanic power. Then isn't that too many mechanic powers being used? Or would Crys's not count since it wasn't successful?
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Post by wombat99 on Feb 19, 2013 20:20:04 GMT -5
Moley, Didn't Scathach, the Gravedigger, claim a mechanic power to expose the role of the dead in the morning? Since we see Lightfoot's info, I would assume that might be the 2nd mechanic power. Then isn't that too many mechanic powers being used? Or would Crys's not count since it wasn't successful? Actually, Scathach's posted claim says she is an Investigator/Manipulator, not a Mechanic.
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Post by ryjae on Feb 19, 2013 20:25:01 GMT -5
I can vouch for Texcat. As I do not see a mechanic to be messed with on the cleanse part I offered Texcat accepted and I got a PM Saying It was successful. Be back tomorrow (real world tomorrow) for further playing! For what it's worth Idle I got the same results for you and Texcat the only oddball was Bill which may have been blocked.
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Post by texcat on Feb 19, 2013 20:41:49 GMT -5
Thank you again, Ryjae! @ Ginger If you prayed for a dead player, perhaps it would be best just to tell us whether they went to heaven or not. We really don't need to know the name, and the Devil's might make some use of it. Wombat, I was just trying to look it up and update my claim list. I'll probably mix them up again before this game is over.
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Post by texcat on Feb 19, 2013 21:05:23 GMT -5
01. Hockey Monkey! Claims misterV and dizzy are 100% Christian 02. silverjan Tracked/Watched Guiri N1, Ginger visited Guiri and Guiri visited ?. Could not use power N2. Slaked lust N1. 03. guiri Tracked by silverjan N1. 04. wombat99 The Manichee, Heretic, [redacted] 06. JustBeingGinger The Intercessor, Christian, Mechanic/Investigator. Prayed for Guiri N1. Prayed for SisC N2. 07. mistervisceral Claimed Christian by Hockey 08. gnarlycharlie Mahaloth 09. scathach The Gravedigger, Christian, Investigator/Manipulator 10. storyteller0910 11. Chucara Claimed non-Devil by Moley. 12. crys The Medium, Pagan, Mechanic. Tried to channel SisC N2, unsuccessful. Offer to slake lust on D3. 13. Suburban Plankton 14. KidVermicious 16. Solaris colby11 17. texcat Cleansed of sins by Ryjae N3. 19. Idle Thoughts Christian, mechanic. Sins cleansed N1 by Ryjae. Declined offer to slake lust N2. 21. HolyMoley! Claims Chacura is non-Devil. 23. BillMc Started with no sins. Accepted Ryjae's offer to cleanse sins N2. 24. dizzymrslizzy Claimed Christian by Hockey. 26. ryjae The Confessor. Cleansed Idle N1. Attempt to cleanse Bill N2. Cleansed Texcat N3. 20. patricia - The Horseman of Death, Devil, Manipulator - Lynched Day One 05. Paranoia - The Martyr, Christian, Manipulator - Killed Night One 22. lauriern - The Duelist, Christian, Killer/Investigator - Killed Night Two 25. Sister Coyote - The Inquisitor, Christian, Killer/Investigator - Lynched Day Two 15. Pollux Oil The Gossip, a Christian Investigator - Lynched Day Three 18. Lightfoot the Prophetess, a Pagan Investigator -- killed N3
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