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Post by Silver Jan on Feb 20, 2013 15:08:17 GMT -5
So you didn't get a result on me because you don't have more total votes on me than any other living player? It seems from this snippet that you don't get to actively name the target of your Investigation; your target is chosen for you based on your voting history. So how was it that you thought you were investigating me last Night? It would seem that your PM either says something like "Each Night, you designate a target...", or it doesn't. FYI, I did nothing last Night, mainly because I was busy IRL and away from the game almost all Night long. I don't know if anyone visited me or not. Calm down honey, I just think you are scum
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Post by scáthach on Feb 20, 2013 15:10:31 GMT -5
Oh, and I forgot,
vote Suburban Plankton
as a carry over from yesterday
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Post by texcat on Feb 20, 2013 16:05:02 GMT -5
I'm not sure how I slipped into your list, scathach, but I did vote for Patricia.
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Post by Pleonast on Feb 20, 2013 16:09:42 GMT -5
Pleonast: If a player is recruited to the scum team, will their death message still reveal town, or will it reveal scum/devil? Moderator reveals of dead players are always 100% correct at the time of death, although possibly incomplete.
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Post by guiri on Feb 20, 2013 16:13:56 GMT -5
Because we can only lynch one person toDay. I am reasonably certain that SilverJan has been converted. I am only guessing that you converted her. But you can vote more than one person. Or do you mean my guilt is dependent on how she flips? Guiri hasn't claimed anything, but I think a claim is in order Please explain why, did something bad happen? I tentatively suggest waiting. guiri - Did you visit anyone on Nights 2 and 3? Yes, but just Night 2. I also hadn't noticed how short N3 was. Vote: guiri Can you please respond to the question from D2.30 regarding whether or not you had your sins removed? Are you referring to this? 06. JustBeingGinger - claimed Christian intercessionist, SilverJan confirmed that she visited Guiri as she claimed, however Guiri did not confirm that his sins were removed. Are you seriously pressure voting me to get me to answer a non-question by Moley which I answered yesterDay? Seriously? I didn't receive any information about sins being removed, thanks! NOT a claim. But I think it's the only thing that makes sense given the multiplying lusters. So, N1 I recruited SilverJan, N2 we both recruited 2 more, N3 the 4 of us recruited 4 more, toNight there'll be 16? Wouldn't that be rather easy? Apparently I did have a sin... So thanks Ryjae for the offer, I'm taking it Did Pleo tell you that you have a sin or that lynching SisC earned you a sin?
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Post by JustBeingGinger on Feb 20, 2013 16:18:29 GMT -5
There seem to be a number of 'unanswered questions' about the actions of claimed players. I don't necessarily expect all of these questions to be answered right away (or indeed at all), and it's possible that some of these have already been answered, but here's my list: Chucara - You missed your Night action on Night 3. Did you take youe Night action on Nights 1 and 2? crys - Who did you attempt to communicate with last Night? guiri - Did you visit anyone on Nights 2 and 3? JustBeingGinger - Did you clear anyone's sins last Night? ryjae - Did you receive a message Today (or last Night) saying that texcat's sins had been cleansed? Did you offer to cleanse Colby's sins today? silverjan - What did you do on or about Day 2 that caused you to be protected and to have no action on Night 2? Did you investigate anyone last Night? I did put in a PM, but I think I was blocked. I am not sure. I did not get a PM saying I was blocked, but I got a different result from the night 2 and a different result than night 1. Honestly because of the recruiting factor in this game I am hesitant to say who and what result I got.
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Post by JustBeingGinger on Feb 20, 2013 16:19:10 GMT -5
Guiri hasn't claimed anything, but I think a claim is in order Until then, Vote: Guiri [/color][/quote] So there has been no talk about a mass claim, why would Guiri claim and have you?
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Post by scáthach on Feb 20, 2013 16:25:59 GMT -5
I'm not sure how I slipped into your list, scathach, but I did vote for Patricia. Oh, my bad.
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Post by texcat on Feb 20, 2013 16:31:42 GMT -5
Ginger, can you tell us if you targeted a dead or live player?
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Post by guiri on Feb 20, 2013 16:45:01 GMT -5
Also, what is your take on the whole Pagan thing? Sorry, missed this. The whole pagan thing? Could you be a little more specific? I think I said that I maintained a healthy level of suspicion of any non-christian faction. I'm more suspicious of the heretic(s) than the pagans due to the bat-signal but I also suspect that Lightfoot intentionally avoided voting for Patricia, although she denied it. As for which faction was responsible for Lightfoot's death, it's impossible to tell without knowing each faction's wincon - maybe she posed a threat to devils, heretics, another pagan, or maybe someone needs to eliminate pagans?
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Post by JustBeingGinger on Feb 20, 2013 16:55:47 GMT -5
Ginger, can you tell us if you targeted a dead or live player? I am not sure I am going to reveal that. Can I ask why you would want to know?
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Post by Suburban Plankton on Feb 20, 2013 17:00:24 GMT -5
So you didn't get a result on me because you don't have more total votes on me than any other living player? It seems from this snippet that you don't get to actively name the target of your Investigation; your target is chosen for you based on your voting history. So how was it that you thought you were investigating me last Night? It would seem that your PM either says something like "Each Night, you designate a target...", or it doesn't. FYI, I did nothing last Night, mainly because I was busy IRL and away from the game almost all Night long. I don't know if anyone visited me or not. Calm down honey, I just think you are scum I'm calm, hon...I just wondered how your ability works. Originally you told us "I can investigate someone at Night that I have voted for during the Day", implying that each Night you can choose to investigate someone that you voted for during the Day. Now you tell us that "The player you target will be the living player who you've voted for more than any other living player (counting only active votes at the end of all Days).", which means that your target is dependent on your total votes, that you don't get to directly name your target each Night, and that it doesn't matter if you voted for your target that same Day or not. So I'm wondering if you just plain misread your PM and thought that your power worked directly, despite the description, or if you're trying to make up a reason why you don't have an Investigation result to report. It seems like it's been a problem all game getting a straight answer out of you. That hasn't changed. Vote: silverjan
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Post by texcat on Feb 20, 2013 17:31:04 GMT -5
Ginger, can you tell us if you targeted a dead or live player? I am not sure I am going to reveal that. Can I ask why you would want to know? If it was a dead person, I can mostly forget about it because I can't do anything with dead people. If it was a living person, I might want to come back to it later. It's certainly not that important.
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Post by crys on Feb 20, 2013 17:57:07 GMT -5
Yeah, this is confusing. If crys got an offer to slake his lust on Day 3, and dizzymrslizzy got an offer to slake her lust on Day 3, then either one of them is lying or we have two Lusty people running around the town. But I can't see why crys would have lied about receiving that PM. I suppose he could have done so in order that people would think he was going to be protected overNight and not attack him...but that seems a bit far-fetched... I think slaking lust is part of the recruiting mechanism. I think SilverJan was recruited N1 and is now also trying to slake lust with someone every Night. I suspect the original slaker is Guiri based on Jan's attempts to clear him on D2. Dizzy was, of course, immune to recruitment. I think it's fishy that crys claims toDay that she turned down the offer. Why didn't she tell us that yesterDay? If there are 3 offers of lust toDay, I will think that crys was recruited. In any case, she's on my watch list. SilverJan has been extremely reluctant to come clean on her investigations and her night of lust. N2 she claimed she did not have an investigation due to something stupid she did. N3 she's claiming the mod lost her homework. I suspect she's busy trying to decide whether to fake an investigation or to say that she was blocked, leaving her options open until the last minute. Vote: SilverJan [/color] And a further plea for no one to accept any lustful nights. [/quote] vote texcatI'm calling bullshit on you and your theories. First off why didn't I tell you that I declined the offer for lust slaking? Because it was none of your business. I declined the offer because I didn't trust it. This is the pm I recieved: and this is my response with the moderator's response to me Texcat, you weren't even really on my radar before that, but you trying to claim I had been recruited is bullshit. You seem to be trying too hard to move view away from yesterday's vote/lynch shenanigans. I don't buy it. In fact and I know this is meta gamey as hell, the only time I have outright lied in a mafia game about my role was the last game I played in and that was to save texcat's ass so we had a chance at the win.
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Post by Colby11 on Feb 20, 2013 18:03:27 GMT -5
guiri- I asked if lynching SisC did earn me a sin, and he confirmed that I did have a sin, but wouldn't specify from where. So I think it is safe to assume it is from lynching SisC. @ginger- I am asking because he supposedly targeted me/Solaris N1- according to SJ, I think....
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Post by Holy Moley! on Feb 20, 2013 18:41:39 GMT -5
guiri- I asked if lynching SisC did earn me a sin, and he confirmed that I did have a sin, but wouldn't specify from where. So I think it is safe to assume it is from lynching SisC. @ginger- I am asking because he supposedly targeted me/Solaris N1- according to SJ, I think.... Ok, two questions. 1) Are you certain you started this game without a sin? 2) Could the devils have known about this?
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Post by Holy Moley! on Feb 20, 2013 18:42:43 GMT -5
Also, Crys, you realise that Ryjae cleared Texcat? At least of being a devil?
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Post by crys on Feb 20, 2013 19:15:39 GMT -5
Also, Crys, you realise that Ryjae cleared Texcat? At least of being a devil? I'm not assuming anything at this point. Godfather roles in typical scum games would come out looking as town. I'm not ruling out the possibility that there could be some sort of Godfather devil role and the rest of you shouldn't either. Texcat is trying to steer conversation away from the lynch shenanigans yesterday. Sometimes you have to go with your gut and my gut is screaming on this one.
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Post by dizzymrslizzy on Feb 20, 2013 20:06:40 GMT -5
I had a vote on Texcat yesterday, and I'm right there with you Crys...
Vote: Texcat Vote: Suburban
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Post by texcat on Feb 20, 2013 21:49:56 GMT -5
Good grief! Jeese Louise! How many times does Ryjae need to say that I am not a Devil?
Voting confirmed non-Devils is exactly what makes me think you've been recruited crys.
If you think my recruiting theory is flawed, then point out where, propose an alternate theory for how recruiting works. Don't reinforce it by voting for confirmed townies.
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Post by Suburban Plankton on Feb 20, 2013 21:54:57 GMT -5
I had a vote on Texcat yesterday, and I'm right there with you Crys... Vote: TexcatVote: SuburbanWhat...it didn't work yesterDay, so you're bound and determined to lynch texcat and I both again?
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Post by Suburban Plankton on Feb 20, 2013 22:15:07 GMT -5
Good grief! Jeese Louise! How many times does Ryjae need to say that I am not a Devil? Voting confirmed non-Devils is exactly what makes me think you've been recruited crys. If you think my recruiting theory is flawed, then point out where, propose an alternate theory for how recruiting works. Don't reinforce it by voting for confirmed townies. I understand where you're coming from here, and I have no argument with this post overall, but I do feel compelled to point out that you are not in fact a "confirmed townie". The evidence is in your favor, but it's by no means conclusive at this point.
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Post by KidVermicious on Feb 20, 2013 22:21:20 GMT -5
Just popping in to note that I'm fighting computer trouble at home and apparently a new web filter at work, and my ability to play just got very limited. I've asked Pleo for a sub, sorry guys.
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Post by mistervisceral on Feb 20, 2013 23:22:59 GMT -5
Can I just say this about the Hockey Monkey/Dizzy/MrV masonry - it just feels off. The timing of the claim and reveal is off. MrV and Dizzy were under a lot of suspicion. That isn't off at all. Here's how our discussion went: "Whoops, MV, you got yourself into shit. To keep town from lynching a town, we'll make sure you get covered." Same for DML Actually, no, you're right. We, the three remaining scum, all claimed together so that when one of us is lynched, the entire team will use. Yeah, that's the one. The lust-slaking (lol Slaking) has nothing to do with recruitment. I can say that with 100% certainty.
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Post by Colby11 on Feb 21, 2013 1:03:55 GMT -5
guiri- I asked if lynching SisC did earn me a sin, and he confirmed that I did have a sin, but wouldn't specify from where. So I think it is safe to assume it is from lynching SisC. @ginger- I am asking because he supposedly targeted me/Solaris N1- according to SJ, I think.... Ok, two questions. 1) Are you certain you started this game without a sin? 2) Could the devils have known about this? 1- Positive 2- To the best of my knowledge, no
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Post by Silver Jan on Feb 21, 2013 1:42:14 GMT -5
Why all the votes on Texcat? If you want vote for her then surely ryjae is lying about her powers, this doesn't make sense to me.
Suburban Plankton I did misunderstand my PM, it's complicated, isn't yours? So now that I know how it works I hope to be able to investigate someone. I was being cagey because I didn't want the Devils to know how it worked but that's all out in the open now.
I have NOT been converted or recruited or anything else. The lust slaking is just a protection and you gain a sin.
Crys why did you refuse? It protects you against a NK and yet you were so vehement about it.
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Post by Holy Moley! on Feb 21, 2013 2:23:45 GMT -5
Ok, this is getting to be a bit bizarre.
I understand that we probably have at least one devil who's given a fake claim. But can everybody please get behind the idea that there's probably more who are hiding behind giving no claim at all "to not give too much information to the devils"?
In a game where six of us were scum, three of said scum were among the last five people in the game to claim. There were over twenty people in that game.
Somebody said that there'd been no call for a mass claim, yet. Well at this point, with two mislynches and several mis-kills under our respective belts, I think it's about time for one. Don't you?
My instinct from the start has been that the devils are hiding among the "lurkers". However I've been voting to lynch the more suspicious active players out of fear that I'd accidentally hit a power role instead. I'm not sold on KidV - who it appears is subbing out anyway - but he's the best I've got right now out of the half-dozen players who have, I feel, provided much less information than I'd like. I'd like to change that situation before we're in too dire a position.
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Post by Chucara on Feb 21, 2013 3:58:57 GMT -5
Unvote: guiri
Sorry, I missed your response. I'm satisfied for now.
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Post by guiri on Feb 21, 2013 7:44:16 GMT -5
Somebody said that there'd been no call for a mass claim, yet. Well at this point, with two mislynches and several mis-kills under our respective belts, I think it's about time for one. Don't you? OK, I'll follow your lead: I'm a Christian Investigator. 21. HolyMoley - Christian investigator.*** ***Well at least I know what I am! Wow! What are the odds of that?
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Post by texcat on Feb 21, 2013 9:42:20 GMT -5
The lust-slaking (lol Slaking) has nothing to do with recruitment. I can say that with 100% certainty. Darn. And I assume you know this for sure because you are the slaker? And can you explain why crys and Dizzy both got invites yesterDay? And I guess you can't explain why SilverJan has not answered any of my multilple questions about it?
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