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Post by Holy Moley! on Feb 27, 2013 13:37:54 GMT -5
...Or maybe not.
My role PM didn't specify a "cardinal sin power" either, but I think that was HockeyMonkey herself, not a quote. SilverJan makes some convincing points regarding her lack of knowledge of how Cardinal Sins work, though. And I can confirm that my Cardinal Sin is absolutely specific about what I can and cannot do with it.
I'm going to sit down and think about this one.
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Post by JustBeingGinger on Feb 27, 2013 13:38:21 GMT -5
Because I prayed for her last night. When I pray for someone it cleanses half of their sins. But then she would have been left with 1 sin, surely. I don't know exactly what it takes to get into heaven if you have to be completely sinless or have a couple on you... I know well at least I was told she is there.
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Post by JustBeingGinger on Feb 27, 2013 13:40:08 GMT -5
Because I prayed for her last night. When I pray for someone it cleanses half of their sins. Ginger, your claim indicates that you can tell where a player's soul is. To me, that would suggest that LightFoot's soul was already in Heaven before you prayed for her...or possibly that she entered Heaven at the same time that you were praying for her (depending on the order in which Night actions are evaluated)...but I don't see anything to suggest that your prayers last Night sent her there. Am I the only person who is surprised that a Pagan would wind up in Heaven in any case? You are right. I am not sure if my praying for her caused her to be there or she is already there...
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Post by Silver Jan on Feb 27, 2013 13:40:56 GMT -5
I fully invited Ryjae or anyone else to investigate any one of us in the Mason group. We have nothing to hide at all. And SilverJan I didn't understand your last post at all. And as I said in my PM to Pleo, there was NO color in my PM at all. I read that, one for one dead and one less for Christians, Pagans and Heretics to trust. I think you played well but I think you are devils. There was no SPACING between "that" and "Dizzy" or "and" and "mister", what's so hard to understand?
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Post by Silver Jan on Feb 27, 2013 13:46:39 GMT -5
Crickey, do I really have to back through all the pages to see who confirmed the masons except for each other? I can tomorrow in RL but not now.
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Post by JustBeingGinger on Feb 27, 2013 13:47:11 GMT -5
Ginger - I'd like to know why you chose to pray for lightfoot - given she was not christian? Well if I believe that we as Christians win by having more souls in heaven then the devils in hell, I wanted to see if I can send another one to heaven other than SisC, well this is when I thought I was the one sending them to heaven which was brought to my attention that I might not be the one sending them there I just get the result where they are. I do believe that if a Pagan or Heretic get to heaven it might be toward our wincon, not sure but maybe... I choose Lightfoot, because my last pray session the night before on a Christian did not work and in thinking I might be blocked or the person I choose the night before might be already recruited... It was nothing but basically who choose the longest straw.
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Post by dizzymrslizzy on Feb 27, 2013 13:48:14 GMT -5
And I think Pleo was rushing to get the PMs out. He screwed up my PM also not including Hockey and [/b]Mr.V's[/b] names in it. What's your point of caring what the spacing is like in her PM.
Both of us stated out loud as we were posting our PMs that mine had a mistake, and her's had a spacing issue. We absolutely could have fixed it and not opened that can of worms, but we both posted our PMs as is.
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Post by Silver Jan on Feb 27, 2013 13:49:30 GMT -5
I fully invited Ryjae or anyone else to investigate any one of us in the Mason group. We have nothing to hide at all. And SilverJan I didn't understand your last post at all. And as I said in my PM to Pleo, there was NO color in my PM at all. So you didn't get a role except mason, you don't have any powers except masonry? You didn't get the 3 hints? Interesting once more.
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Post by dizzymrslizzy on Feb 27, 2013 13:53:18 GMT -5
Silver, I posted my PM, go back and read it please.
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Post by Silver Jan on Feb 27, 2013 13:54:15 GMT -5
And I think Pleo was rushing to get the PMs out. He screwed up my PM also not including Hockey and [/b]Mr.V's[/b] names in it. What's your point of caring what the spacing is like in her PM. Both of us stated out loud as we were posting our PMs that mine had a mistake, and her's had a spacing issue. We absolutely could have fixed it and not opened that can of worms, but we both posted our PMs as is.[/quote] And once again, he only screwed up the Masons Pm's, why is that I wonder?
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Post by dizzymrslizzy on Feb 27, 2013 13:56:48 GMT -5
Why do you say he "only" screwed up the Mason's PMs?
And again, if it was OUR mistake why would we have admitted to the mistake PRIOR to making it.
Maybe he did it on purpose, Maybe he was rushing, who the heck knows why.
If we were coordinating and making crap up, it would have been more fine tuned, and we both certainly would have not caused more controversy by purposely posting things with errors.
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Post by Silver Jan on Feb 27, 2013 14:02:58 GMT -5
Why do you say he "only" screwed up the Mason's PMs? And again, if it was OUR mistake why would we have admitted to the mistake PRIOR to making it. Maybe he did it on purpose, Maybe he was rushing, who the heck knows why. If we were coordinating and making crap up, it would have been more fine tuned, and we both certainly would have not caused more controversy by purposely posting things with errors. Why not post with errors, Idle has done before as scum. I do find it fascinating that you are a mechanic and a manipulator and an investigator. That's quite a heavy role for you to carry. And don't tell me that scum would not have fined tuned things or missed things cos I have seen it all, well almost
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Post by Silver Jan on Feb 27, 2013 14:04:41 GMT -5
Can someone, anyone, outside the Mason group confirm one of them as Town?
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Post by dizzymrslizzy on Feb 27, 2013 14:05:50 GMT -5
Errors is one thing, and something to catch scum with.
Both of us TOLD you there were errors WHEN we posted. That's the difference. You are being unusually thick headed.
And yes, I am all three, it's part of the reason we were holding off on claiming who/what we were.
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Post by Suburban Plankton on Feb 27, 2013 14:14:39 GMT -5
Initial Sins: 1 Cardinal Sin: This is from my PM and it's actually underlined, noted any colons in Hockey Monkey's? Me neither. Another thing to note is the NO spacing between 1. You know thatdizzymrslizzyis the Friar andmistervisceralis the Monk. Both are Christian and cannot be recruited. Interesting don't you think? I would vote for all of the "masons" but if I do that I might aswell not vote at all. silverjan, can you clarify what you're saying in this post? Are you claiming that your Role PM named dizzymrslizzy as the Friar and mistervisceral as the Monk? Or is that supposed to have been a quote from Hockey Monkey? And if we're proceeding with a mass claim in the order set out by dizzy, then you're up next. Are you planning to make a full claim?
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Post by Silver Jan on Feb 27, 2013 14:15:00 GMT -5
Errors is one thing, and something to catch scum with. Both of us TOLD you there were errors WHEN we posted. That's the difference. You are being unusually thick headed. And yes, I am all three, it's part of the reason we were holding off on claiming who/what we were. No, I am usually thick headed
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Post by Silver Jan on Feb 27, 2013 14:19:28 GMT -5
Initial Sins: 1 Cardinal Sin: This is from my PM and it's actually underlined, noted any colons in Hockey Monkey's? Me neither. Another thing to note is the NO spacing between 1. You know thatdizzymrslizzyis the Friar andmistervisceralis the Monk. Both are Christian and cannot be recruited. Interesting don't you think? I would vote for all of the "masons" but if I do that I might aswell not vote at all. silverjan, can you clarify what you're saying in this post? Are you claiming that your Role PM named dizzymrslizzy as the Friar and mistervisceral as the Monk? Or is that supposed to have been a quote from Hockey Monkey? And if we're proceeding with a mass claim in the order set out by dizzy, then you're up next. Are you planning to make a full claim? The 1st 2 lines are from my PM and the rest is from Hockey's PM apart from my comment, I couldn't do the quotes right. I was trying to compare my roles with colons and Hockey"s without colons.
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Post by Silver Jan on Feb 27, 2013 14:20:46 GMT -5
I can do quote coding if someone shows me how to
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Post by Silver Jan on Feb 27, 2013 14:23:55 GMT -5
02. The Quixote, Christian, Investigator - silverjan Role Name: The Quixote Alignment: Christian Victory Conditions: 1. You must stop the Devils from winning. You don't exactly know what that entails, but here are some hints: a. Lynching or killing Devils will always help your team. b. Removing your sins will always help your team, but increasing them may or may not be beneficial. c. Never reveal to another player nor allow another player to figure out your Cardinal Sin. Role Type: Investigator Powers: 1. Each Night, you may investigate a particular player. You will learn who targeted that player and also who that player targeted. The player you target will be the living player who you've voted for more than any other living player (counting only active votes at the end of all Days). If there is a tie, then you may not investigate anyone. This power cannot be redirected. Initial Sins: 1 Read more: idlemafia.com/index.cgi?action=pmview&view=1&id=47056#ixzz2M83ucChYI have already done this before, I think Dizzy is skimming
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Post by Hockey Monkey! on Feb 27, 2013 14:35:43 GMT -5
Initial Sins: 1 Cardinal Sin: This is from my PM and it's actually underlined, noted any colons in Hockey Monkey's? Me neither. Another thing to note is the NO spacing between 1. You know thatdizzymrslizzyis the Friar andmistervisceralis the Monk. Both are Christian and cannot be recruited. Interesting don't you think? I would vote for all of the "masons" but if I do that I might aswell not vote at all. Silverjan, I noted when I posted it that I was posting it exactly as received. You want to vote for me because Pleo did not put spaces between the names and words? I am not a Devil. You are taking quotes by me and using them out of context. My PM was not a "sample", it was my actual PM. I don't know why Dizzy used that word except to indicate that all of our PMs would be essentially the same. I don't know what you are on about with the colons and the underlining. I copied my PM to an excel spreadsheet page where I am keeping all of my notes. The formatting did not carry over when I copied it to paste into the thread. I went in and bolded the other mason's names, but otherwise didn't change anything. I didn't even post my initial sins to have left a colon out of. When I posted that sentence about Dizzy and Mr V being 100% Christian, I was still trying to hide how exactly I knew that because I was trying to become a target for the Devils. I wanted them to think I was a traditional investigator role. If you will look back at my role claim post I gave my additional power. I learn the identity of all players who target me and what type of power they used. No one has targeted me to my knowledge. I haven't been able to use the power every night. You now trying to use it against me is grating. How about someone investigate one of us instead of killing one of us today. All lynching one of us would do is get one more Christian dead.
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Post by Hockey Monkey! on Feb 27, 2013 14:39:23 GMT -5
...Or maybe not. My role PM didn't specify a "cardinal sin power" either, but I think that was HockeyMonkey herself, not a quote. SilverJan makes some convincing points regarding her lack of knowledge of how Cardinal Sins work, though. And I can confirm that my Cardinal Sin is absolutely specific about what I can and cannot do with it. I'm going to sit down and think about this one. My lack of knowledge about Cardinal Sins is generally overall how using them and gaining sins affects us. Not how my power works. My PM was clear on how I use my sin. I think I've had this conversation before.
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Post by Suburban Plankton on Feb 27, 2013 14:40:39 GMT -5
You're right...you did post that earlier. Apparently I've been skimming too Anyway, I guess that makes it my turn: Holy Moley, you don't need to bother with voting Today. I did not use my vote manipulation powers before last Night. And I haven't used my second power at all, obviously. I was going to omit that, but since texcat has already claimed the 'opposite' power, I figured I'd speak out. FTR, I don't think that Pleonast would have given such powers to Scum, since that would seem to give them a great advantage, so I'm pretty sure that texcat is a Christian (or at least started the game that way).
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Post by Suburban Plankton on Feb 27, 2013 14:42:14 GMT -5
And I've just received an offer to slake my lust with someone. I must say, I'm flattered
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Post by Silver Jan on Feb 27, 2013 15:07:57 GMT -5
...Or maybe not. My role PM didn't specify a "cardinal sin power" either, but I think that was HockeyMonkey herself, not a quote. SilverJan makes some convincing points regarding her lack of knowledge of how Cardinal Sins work, though. And I can confirm that my Cardinal Sin is absolutely specific about what I can and cannot do with it. I'm going to sit down and think about this one. My lack of knowledge about Cardinal Sins is generally overall how using them and gaining sins affects us. Not how my power works. My PM was clear on how I use my sin. I think I've had this conversation before. I am sure you have had this conversation before but it's been the first time that I have found twinges of scumminess, apart from Patricia. The 7 deadly sins are Lust, Gluttony, Greed, Sloth, Wrath, Envy and Pride. Now I am sure Pleo investigated this To make this game even viable he must have at least googled the 7 sins so that each of us could have one, the Devils don't need one. Power is not a sin unless this game is whacked cos I am a Christian (IRL I am an atheist)
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Post by Silver Jan on Feb 27, 2013 15:13:05 GMT -5
...Or maybe not. My role PM didn't specify a "cardinal sin power" either, but I think that was HockeyMonkey herself, not a quote. SilverJan makes some convincing points regarding her lack of knowledge of how Cardinal Sins work, though. And I can confirm that my Cardinal Sin is absolutely specific about what I can and cannot do with it. I'm going to sit down and think about this one. Bloody Hell, I missed that, "My Cardinal Sin Power" My voting self is soooo happy No one else has come to back them up. I know I need to read more but I really think that the Devils made a play for it and we have been suckers up til now.
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Post by Suburban Plankton on Feb 27, 2013 15:48:54 GMT -5
...Or maybe not. My role PM didn't specify a "cardinal sin power" either, but I think that was HockeyMonkey herself, not a quote. SilverJan makes some convincing points regarding her lack of knowledge of how Cardinal Sins work, though. And I can confirm that my Cardinal Sin is absolutely specific about what I can and cannot do with it. I'm going to sit down and think about this one. Bloody Hell, I missed that, "My Cardinal Sin Power" My voting self is soooo happy No one else has come to back them up. I know I need to read more but I really think that the Devils made a play for it and we have been suckers up til now. I'm not sure I'm understanding things here...are you thinking that Hockey Monkey was saying that her Cardinal Sin is "Power"? I don't read it that way at all; I read it as her saying "This is the Power that's related to my Cardinal Sin" or, to put it succinctly, her "Cardinal Sin Power" And FWIW, the "Cardinal Sin Power" that she describes in Post32 is word-for-word the same as what I have in my PM. All of which has little if any bearing on her alignment, of course.
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Post by BillMc on Feb 27, 2013 15:54:01 GMT -5
As for the [redacted], those of you who are paying attention might have figured it out, but for now, I'm keeping that card a secret.
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Post by guiri on Feb 27, 2013 16:01:01 GMT -5
It's not my turn but since Suburban and Colby have claimed, I have no reason to hold off. I'm a straightforward name or flavor cop. When I saw Patricia's reveal as the Horseman of Death, I figured there were probably 3 other horsemen who would be forced to use false names or at least the other devils had nasty-sounding names... N1 I investigated Solaris, she posted just twice, was very apologetic, gave us little to go by and I wondered if she was newbie scum. Her role name is Penitent which doesn't sound nasty at all and happens to match what Colby claimed earlier. When Colby started going paranoid about my N1 visit, I breadcrumbed it here: Please explain why, did something bad hap [pen? I tent]atively suggest waiting. N2 I investigated Crys, I'd remained suspicious of her since D1, she claimed The Medium early on D3 which matched my result. N3 I missed the deadline, my bad. N4 I investigated Suburban, he's not a horseman for sure: Yes, I was busy with Suburban, a quiet drink in [the bar on] Sunday night...
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Post by Silver Jan on Feb 27, 2013 16:29:46 GMT -5
Bloody Hell, I missed that, "My Cardinal Sin Power" My voting self is soooo happy No one else has come to back them up. I know I need to read more but I really think that the Devils made a play for it and we have been suckers up til now. I'm not sure I'm understanding things here...are you thinking that Hockey Monkey was saying that her Cardinal Sin is "Power"? I don't read it that way at all; I read it as her saying "This is the Power that's related to my Cardinal Sin" or, to put it succinctly, her "Cardinal Sin Power" And FWIW, the "Cardinal Sin Power" that she describes in Post32 is word-for-word the same as what I have in my PM. All of which has little if any bearing on her alignment, of course. Please read what I am about to post so that you get it. I missed my night action as well. All the other nights have been longer and I was in class all day and never thought about the game till now. Goddammit Holy Moley, there is a fucking reason I haven't shared that information! You are like a mutherfuckin dog with a mutherfuckin bone. Fat lot of good I've been able to do. So here it is: 01. The Nun, Christian, Investigator/Mechanic/Manipulator - Hockey Monkey!Role Name:The Nun Alignment: Christian Victory Conditions: 1. You must stop the Devils from winning. You don't exactly know what that entails, but here are some hints: a. Lynching or killing Devils will always help your team. b. Removing your sins will always help your team, but increasing them may or may not be beneficial. c. Never reveal to another player nor allow another player to figure out your Cardinal Sin. Role Type: Investigator/Mechanic/Manipulator Powers: 1. You know that dizzymrslizzyis the Friar and mistervisceralis the Monk. Both are Christian and cannot be recruited. 2. You may communicate secretly at the Priory. 3. Each Night, you may protect from being killed by a Devil a living player who is not yourself or the Friar or Monk. 4. You cannot be recruited. That is a direct copy and paste with the spacing left exactly as it appeared in my PM for Mr V and Dizzy's names. My Cardinal Sin Power:You may learn the identity of all players who targeted you and what type of power they used (Killer, Investigator, Manipulator, Mechanic). If you choose to do so, you will sin. This power cannot be blocked or redirected, but some powers may not be detected. So I wanted the Devils to think I was a regular type of investigator so I might be targeted so I might learn something. I have not gained any additional information, and don't expect to now. So to recap - We are masons, Dizzy and Mr V are 100% Christian and will remain so throughout the game and so will I. Now shut the fuck up about it. And take particular notice of what I have underlined. There is no where in my PM that gives me my role that says "My Cardinal Sin Power" There is so much wrong with this, please give me the benefit of doubt, I have been reading every day and this just makes sense. The Scum decided to be Masons to fuck us over. You know what, the only thing that we have to lose is a true Mason if we vote Hockey off and then we can trust the other 2. Go on, read the comments from Days ago, the 2 people that came across as scum were cleared by Hockey, seriously. Isn't MrV still under suspicion and he's supposed to be a mason? If I am talking out my arse just let me know but I think I am onto something here.
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Post by dizzymrslizzy on Feb 27, 2013 16:46:55 GMT -5
Just stop Silver Jan....Seriously just stop.
She changed:
Cardinal Sin: XYZ SIN Your cardinal sin does XYZ
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My Cardinal Sin Power:
AKA, what her Cardinal sin DOES, not which sin she has, and that Pleo labeled it a POWER.
You are wrong.....You are 1000% Wrong.....Out of the three of us, I REALLY don't want to lynch Hockey. Seriously I feel like it will hurt town to lose her.
You are infuriating me, because the three of us are what we claimed to be, and I will make sure your ass is lynched when any of the three of us flip Christian, because we are. You REALLY want to lynch one of the three Doctors the town has. Seriously look at how assinine that sounds.
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