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Post by dizzymrslizzy on Feb 28, 2013 13:03:14 GMT -5
I'll answer anything I can....
#1) I was not concerned that the Lust Slaking did anything other than protect and add a sin because my role PM says that I cannot be recruited. So I accepted it, and got no other PMs saying anything regarding it except that Pleo acknowledged that I accepted it.
As for Mr.V's role in the Lust Slaking, I honestly don't know much more than you do. He's been VERY MIA, and hasn't really participated with Hockey and myself aside from a random comment maybe once a Day/night cycle.
He told us that he's not concerned with the Lust Slaking because it's similar to something that he can do. That's all We know, I asked him for more information and have been waiting since almost the beginning of the game for it. We don't know if it's part of his main role, or his CS, or whatnot.
I threw out that there has to be at least 2 Lust Slakers, because I know Mr.V has a similar role of some kind, and he cannot target me or Hockey with his powers. Just like Hockey and I cannot target anyone in the Mason group with our powers.
#2) Hockey and I both have Investigator as a role. I believe Pleo used Investigator loosely in both of our cases, because we have perfect knowledge about another player's name/role/alignment. Neither of us can Investigate anyone. I'd bet that Mr. V's PM says he is an Investigator as well.
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Post by Hockey Monkey! on Feb 28, 2013 13:06:00 GMT -5
I'm a doctor and investigator. I'm not sure if doctor is a mechanic or manipulation. I protect a person each night. I've posted that already. If someone targets me, and I have chosen to use my Cardinal Sin I have the power to learn the identity and what type of power was used by all who target me. I've posted that already. I don't know if I have any other power. Pleo's rules state that all powers may not be known.
All three of us are doctors. We've said that already. Mr V's protection comes with the "color" of lust slaking. While he and his chosen are gettin' busy, neither can be killed. We know there are other horny people out there because he did not send a request to boogie to Dizzy. We can't protect each other. We've said that before. That's why he said he knows it's not recruitment related.
None of us can be recruited. I think we've also addressed that before.
I don't know the answers to anything I haven't addressed. And I think everything I've said above has been posted by one of us at some other time.
By the way, Mr V seems to have abandoned the game, so if it comes down to lynching one of us to prove our claim, I'd rather it be him.
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Post by dizzymrslizzy on Feb 28, 2013 13:07:00 GMT -5
I also have three roles:
Investigator- Being a Mason and knowing the Role/Identity/Alignment of Hockey and Mr. V Mechanic- My protection ability Manipulator- No comment *wink wink*
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Post by Hockey Monkey! on Feb 28, 2013 13:10:49 GMT -5
Although, since it is pretty obvious that his Cardinal Sin is Lust (we didn't share any information about what our CS's are with each other, so I don't know for sure), perhaps we shouldn't kill him and set his soul free for a Devil to claim. I'm assuming that recruitment refers to in game changing from non-devil to devil. I think the soul claiming is separate and part of the devil win condition. I know for sure that we can't be recruited, but I don't know if our souls are safe from hell.
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Post by Suburban Plankton on Feb 28, 2013 13:15:43 GMT -5
As for Mr.V's role in the Lust Slaking, I honestly don't know much more than you do. He's been VERY MIA, and hasn't really participated with Hockey and myself aside from a random comment maybe once a Day/night cycle. He told us that he's not concerned with the Lust Slaking because it's similar to something that he can do. That's all We know, I asked him for more information and have been waiting since almost the beginning of the game for it. We don't know if it's part of his main role, or his CS, or whatnot. All three of us are doctors. We've said that already. Mr V's protection comes with the "color" of lust slaking. While he and his chosen are gettin' busy, neither can be killed. These two answers, as reagards mrv and lust slaking, are not the same.
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Post by Suburban Plankton on Feb 28, 2013 13:30:23 GMT -5
Although, since it is pretty obvious that his Cardinal Sin is Lust (we didn't share any information about what our CS's are with each other, so I don't know for sure), perhaps we shouldn't kill him and set his soul free for a Devil to claim. I'm assuming that recruitment refers to in game changing from non-devil to devil. I think the soul claiming is separate and part of the devil win condition. I know for sure that we can't be recruited, but I don't know if our souls are safe from hell. OK, I did just put one piece together that I should have seen already. According to your claim, the Masons can't be recruited...I had glossed over that bit when worrying about mrv's current status. So you're saying that the admonition "Never reveal to another player nor allow another player to figure out your Cardinal Sin" isn't really a concern as long as a player is still alive; it's only a problem after they are killed. Or does that only apply to the non-recruitable Masons? I'm quite bothered by the fact that mrv apparently ignored the warning about cardinal Sins (or simply forgot about it), and very shortly thereafter disappeared from the game. this was Post 113 of Day 4: Can I just say this about the Hockey Monkey/Dizzy/MrV masonry - it just feels off. The timing of the claim and reveal is off. MrV and Dizzy were under a lot of suspicion. That isn't off at all. Here's how our discussion went: "Whoops, MV, you got yourself into shit. To keep town from lynching a town, we'll make sure you get covered." Same for DML Actually, no, you're right. We, the three remaining scum, all claimed together so that when one of us is lynched, the entire team will use. Yeah, that's the one. The lust-slaking (lol Slaking) has nothing to do with recruitment. I can say that with 100% certainty. He had only two more posts after that one, the last being misterV, please explain how you know that slaking is not related to recruiting. No. Since you seem to be in agreement that he did reveal his Cardinal Sin to be Lust, and since we know that certain actions can be taken mid-Day (the lust-slaking offers being an example), I'm sure you can see my concern. Speaking of lust-slaking: I received an offer Today, during the Day. Idle also told us Today that he received another offer, but he wasn't clear on the timing: whether he received it Today or last Night. If it came in during the Day, that would imply that there are still two lust-slakers out there...so who are they if mrv has gone AWOL?
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Post by Suburban Plankton on Feb 28, 2013 13:51:02 GMT -5
I threw out that there has to be at least 2 Lust Slakers, because I know Mr.V has a similar role of some kind, and he cannot target me or Hockey with his powers. Just like Hockey and I cannot target anyone in the Mason group with our powers. If mrv's lust-slaking ability is related to his Cardinal Sin, how do you know he can't target you or Hockey with it? Your PM says that you can't use your protective ability on the other Masons; does it also say that you can't use whatever CS-related abilities you have on the other Masons?
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Post by dizzymrslizzy on Feb 28, 2013 14:00:52 GMT -5
He told us he CANNOT protect either of us
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Post by dizzymrslizzy on Feb 28, 2013 14:04:02 GMT -5
NETA-
mr v told us on Day 1 that he couldn't use either protective ability on us.
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Post by Suburban Plankton on Feb 28, 2013 14:08:18 GMT -5
He told us he CANNOT protect either of us I'm not sure if you're making the same distinction I am. The Masons all have a protective power. This cannot be used to protect the other Masons. That's understood; we're in agreement there. mistervisceral also apparently has another power, the full nature of which is unknown to anyone but him. It seems that power includes, as part of its effects, a protection. I'm not clear whether that power can be extended to the other Masons or not. Are you quite certain that it can't, and if so, how are you sure?
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Post by Suburban Plankton on Feb 28, 2013 14:09:11 GMT -5
And of course I spent 5 minutes in preview, and you answered my question in the meantime...
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Post by wombat99 on Feb 28, 2013 14:15:52 GMT -5
I also have three roles: Investigator- Being a Mason and knowing the Role/Identity/Alignment of Hockey and Mr. V Mechanic- My protection ability Manipulator- No comment *wink wink* According to the Rules post, protection is a Manipulator ability, not a Mechanic ability. What is your Mechanic ability?
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Post by Suburban Plankton on Feb 28, 2013 14:17:08 GMT -5
It still seems like there's confusion between our two participating Masons concerning the association between mrv and the lust slaking: dizzy says that mrv's power was "similar to" the lust-slaking, but Hockey says that mrv's power "came with the color of" lust-slaking.
So just what exactly did mrv tell you guys? At least one of you is misinterpreting or misremembering something.
And assuming that mrv's Cardinal Sin was indeed Lust, and that the Devils picked up on that yesterDay along with the rest of us, how certain can we afford to be that 'something bad' hasn't already happened to him because of his slip-up?
Finally, considering the participation in the conversation over the last couple of hours, am I the only one who really cares?
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Post by wombat99 on Feb 28, 2013 14:18:14 GMT -5
RyJae, can you confirm that you have offered a cleansing to one of the claimed masons Today?
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Post by ryjae on Feb 28, 2013 14:21:58 GMT -5
Yes I have stated mechanic numerous times my vote is going Only because his role seems awkward compared to mine and others I have cleansed. Vote mahalothMay not seem like much but it is "off" and right now that's bugging me more than not.
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Post by wombat99 on Feb 28, 2013 14:22:25 GMT -5
Finally, considering the participation in the conversation over the last couple of hours, am I the only one who really cares? I care! I'm willing to lynch one of the claimed masons if RyJae isn't investigating one through her cleansing power. Actually, I'm willing to lynch one regardless at this point. I'll choose Dizzy based on the fact that she just posted that she has a Mechanic protection ability when she doesn't. She has a Mechanic power that she is hiding. Why? Devil recruitment is my guess. Vote: DizzyMrsLizzy
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Post by ryjae on Feb 28, 2013 14:25:23 GMT -5
And yes I offered it to one of them. Pleo has confirmed so normally one would acknowledge getting the offer. Though I am okay with none saying so until toMorrow to stop any funny business if they are not Devils the Devils will have to guess which one i offered too.
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Post by wombat99 on Feb 28, 2013 14:31:00 GMT -5
And yes I offered it to one of them. Pleo has confirmed so normally one would acknowledge getting the offer. Though I am okay with none saying so until toMorrow to stop any funny business if they are not Devils the Devils will have to guess which one i offered too. So you offered cleansing to one of the masons, they have received a cleansing pm offer, but they haven't mentioned in the thread? That seems odd. If my alignment was being questioned and I'd been offered a chance to clear my name, I'd certainly announce it so that everyone knew that I'd soon be cleared.
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Post by dizzymrslizzy on Feb 28, 2013 14:45:16 GMT -5
Yes I have a mechanic power I'm hiding because....you don't talk about your CS. I'm typing from my phone and mixed up the order.
But yes let's once again lynch a doctor/mason. I can't believe the animosity towards masons.
Vote: wombat
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Post by wombat99 on Feb 28, 2013 14:52:07 GMT -5
Yes I have a mechanic power I'm hiding because....you don't talk about your CS. I'm typing from my phone and mixed up the order. But yes let's once again lynch a doctor/mason. I can't believe the animosity towards masons. Vote: wombatYour Cardinal Sin power isn't related to your role type. If Pleo says that you are an Investigator/Mechanic/Manipulator, then you have 3 powers separate and distinct from your CS power that fall into those categories. You're just not being completely forthcoming and honest here about your role and powers. And, again, you are OMGUS voting anyone who dares to question.
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Post by Holy Moley! on Feb 28, 2013 14:53:49 GMT -5
@idle Thoughts:
I will repeat my earlier comment. The first thing I did after Wombat posted the word Heretic was to unvote her without giving basically any reasoning other than "I've re-read and I don't think she's scum". I think the entire post was about four lines long. Do you think that's a coincidence?
A vote for me right now is a vote against CatInASuit's lynch. CatInASuit still hasn't claimed. I've been wrong before, but are you willing to bet on a mislynch of a claimed (and proven) town power role? I notice that nobody else has come forward to claim "killer" status since Colby did.
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Now to silence the doubters, here's everything I've written on the subject of either Wombat or Third Parties since Wombat first said she was a Heretic on Day two, up until the start of Day Four (when I started doing some serious distancing from Wombat. The death of the only other claimed third-party investigator, it's fair to say, spooked me a lot.)
My first post after Wombat's soft claim:
Unvote: Wombat as I think he's answered the point regarding his suggestion of lynching Christians satisfactorily for me - at least in terms of it not being a devilish move. Going back over his posts in detail, I'm much less suspicious of him than I was when I looked at him earlier on.
Later on Day two:
I kinda agree with this, but I also think that Wombat's strategy, as dumb as it may be - and it is really, really, really, really, really, really dumb IMO - is not something that I can see a devil proposing. Especially not sticking with it after it meets this much resistance. We need to lynch devils, not idiots. (Sorry Wombat.) Compare and contrast that against DizzyMrsLizzy, my current vote, stating that she's voting "for information", which is something I've seen scum say time and time again. It's a really bad reason to vote for somebody unless you're specifically looking for a reason to vote for somebody. In my experience, scum vote "for information". Townies vote because they think somebody is scum.Wombat, let me ask you this: one idea I proposed fairly early on after Idle made his statement was that if the goal of this game is to get more Christians into heaven than hell, then if the devils all die, the surviving Christians would count towards the "heaven" total, or the "winning" total. Do you know anything to indicate that that's not the case? Because if it IS the case, it would make your strategy defunct right away.
(In other words, shut up about lynching the damn Christians! I was damn near pulling my hair out at this point.)
Start of Day 3:
Still don't believe Wombat is a devil, by the way. I see no devilish motivation for her actions yesterday - quite the opposite, her persistence of such a ridiculous idea (again, sorry Wombat) in the face of such criticism, stinks of "misguided town-ism".
After Crys, Lightfoot and Wombat claimed:
Since this has happpened though, I might as well state right away that my position hasn't changed from day one: I have zero interest in lynching claimed third-parties unless I suspect that their claims are a cover for their devilishness. My wincon states that I specifically have to beat the devils, not any other faction. My best guess is we're (the Christians / pagans / heretics, assuming all three exist) are not competing with each other, and the differences will start to surface after death. I don't see a pagan or heretic making it to "Christian Heaven", for example. Since the pagans and heretics have cardinal sins too, I don't see my theory regarding the devils having to "recruit" souls taking much of a knock.
After Guiri votes Wombat on Day 3:
Secondly, I've already made my thoughts on Wombat clear, and this claim of hers doesn't change anything in terms of my thinking she's not a devil. I won't deny it raises other questions about third parties, and the roles thereof; but they're not the kind of questions that get answered by lynching the questionee.
Guiri. I think it's safe to say that Wombat was signalling to the other Heretics, if any were out there, to take their votes off of her. In fact, I'd say that the moment you look at that post, it's obvious enough that it barely deserves mentioning, except possibly as negative confirmation of Wombat's claim (or, if it is fake - which I don't believe - then at least evidence that it was prepared long before any other third parties came forward) - and yet you don't just ask that question, but follow it up with a rhetorical question that you use as a reason to vote. You remember that I pointed out how Dizzy seemed to be using "accusing" questions as smudges? What you just did is what I'm talking about.
And talking of which...
1. You must stop the Devils from winning. You don't exactly know what that entails, but here are some hints: a. Lynching or killing Devils will always help your team.
Always interesting to see who the first person to jump on the "lynch third-parties even though the Christian wincon says absolutely nothing about lynching or preventing anybody but devils from winning" train turns out to be.
Vote: Guiri
Later that same (real-life) day:
Ok, we have THREE (3) possible courses of action open to ourselves here.
1: We lynch third-parties. 2: We cooperate with third-parties. 3: We bicker endlessly with each other while the devils use that confusion to pick us off, one by one.
Personally I'm not too keen on option three. Don't know about you guys.
I'm not for a minute suggesting that we don't analyze the third parties' role in all of this. Quite the opposite - I think anybody who has any solid information that they think could be more useful than harmful should provide it. But since every Christian, Pagan and Heretic who's appeared so far has claimed that it's their job to kill devils, how's about we set about proving or disproving that point by killing us some damn devils?
Fun fact: it's about six hours since I started writing that post where I voted Guiri. In that time, I've had food, watched some TV, done a few odd jobs around the place, come back, finished my post, and posted. There's about one and a half pages' worth of posts done in that time, and barely any mention of devils. Anybody else find this a cause for concern?
In response to DizzyMrsLizzy:
You don't like the name of her group. Ok. *Takes deep breath.*
1) The win condition that I've received, that you claim to have received, says I have to KILL the devils to BEAT the devils. 2) That same win condition says nothing about me having to beat any third-party faction - heretic, pagan, or anybody else. 3) Pleonast says that nobody can be forced to switch teams against their will. Specifically: "You will not change teams without your consent."
I mean, what else am I supposed to take from this? The Christian win condition directly contradicts what you've just said. The one thing that I'm stone-certain of is that the devils would love us to go after the claimed third-parties, if it means we're leaving them alone.
After Idle Thoughts pointed out the possibility of devils claiming third-parties:
I think we've been lucky in that respect. There's very little chance in my mind that either Wombat or Lightfoot is a devil. I thought that before either of them claimed. Crys I wasn't sure about.
So to my confused brain, Lightfoot confirming Crys is a very good thing. Crys confirming Lightfoot wouldn't help confirm Crys one way or the other; but the way it's panned out, I have no problems believing Crys' claim with Lightfoot backing it.
Responding to Idle's next post:
Yeah, see, that doesn't do it for me. I got no problems questioning the third parties. I'm probably going to be doing some serious examination of them myself. What I DO have problems with is cluttering up the board with idle speculation (sorry) about other factions. Instead of, say, killing devils.
What I guess I'm saying is: if there are definite reasons for suspecting a third party isn't actually a third party, or if they are (in their true capacity as a third party) working against your team, then call them out for it. Otherwise, they've all so far said that their main goal, like ours, is to beat the devils. Hold them to that. Let 'em prove it in their actions.
In response to DizzyMrsLizzy:
If you're cleared by a cop or a fellow mason, that's different, but I do not understand your play in the context of being a Christian.
Wombat soft-claimed heretic yesterday, as Guiri pointed out. The fact that she specifically claimed to confirm the Pagans' win condition, despite not being a Pagan herself, lends a lot of veracity to her claim in my eyes.
My win condition specifically says that I have to beat the devils. - It says that killing devils is always good. - It's the one and only bit of positive action that it tells me is always good. - It mentions nothing about any other faction, hostile or otherwise, that I need to beat. It's absolutely clear on that point. "You have to beat the devils". Not any other factions, not win-stealing third-parties. Just the devils. Ergo, there are no win-stealing factions out there. None. That's not speculation, it's right there in my win-condition.
My guess - and from what information we have, it's little short of a certainty - is that the Christians and any other factions win separately, but aren't competing with each other, at least while alive.
As I've said, I'm not a mechanic or a killer. My only way of killing the devils is via the lynch. There is, to my certain knowledge, only one killing power left in the game, and I have no idea whether it's in the hands of the devils, the Christians, or some other faction. Given that I have to beat the devils, and the only way I know of to do this for sure is to kill them - why on earth would I, as a Christian, EVER use a lynch on a third-party faction member?
Continuing...
Weren't the Heretics the ones who tried to stop the witch-hunts?
And if you honestly believe that the Christians are the good guys, you have been reading very, very different history books to me. I suggest we not even go down that road! For the purposes of this game, my point is that my role PM is absolutely specific about who I have to beat - and heretics (and pagans) are not on the list.
In response to Idle:
There isn't any faction that I have to beat in order to win, other than the devils. It's right there in my PM. "You have to beat the devils". That one line in itself absolutely dismisses any possibility of a win-stealing third-party faction, unless Pleonast has set up an absolute gastardly game here.
I do not get the resistance from people who are apparently confirmed Christians to this idea. Have you been burned by third-parties so often that you make the assumption that their win-con will override yours in every single game?
Following Colby's vote of Wombat:
Are you serious?
Are you for serious?
It's like trying to argue with twenty brick walls...
On Lightfoot's statement of "When I was town...":
I don't think "town" and "scum", as such, exist. I think there are (at least) three factions that all have their own win conditions independant of one another, all of whom must beat a fourth faction (the devils) to win. I suspect that how a Pagan, Christian or Heretic actually "wins" boils down to what happens when either they die or the devils are all dead. I'm basing all of this on my own win condition and the veracity, as I see it, of the claims that have been presented by various parties.
I've also changed my mind on the "recruitment" question. Given the lack of verifiable scum-kills, I'm inclined to believe that the devils' modus operandi is to harvest "souls", and that's where the recruitment aspect of the game comes in. How they do this, I'm not sure at all. I admit that this is something of an assumption, but it seems to fit what we know better than a game of conventional scum whose main task is to gain a voting majority by eliminating or lynching their competition.
As for devilish recruiters... nobody's claimed to have tried to be recruited by a third-party yet, by the way... two things make me think that it's unlikely the devils can "recruit" in the conventional meaning of the word. Firstly, the opening colour describes devils as "infernal approximations of" humans. In other words, they were never human themselves, they just disguise as them. A minor point, but possibly significant. Secondly, in a game with at least four separate factions, I think that a devil recruitment option would just be too unbalancing, especially if the town (Christians? Pagans? Heretics? I'm not even sure any more...) are given no warning of it beforehand. The idea that somebody could be practically "cleared" on day one by, say, Ryjae or SquashGorilla, and then become a devil the very next day... it could potentially ruin the game.
So the most likely option, to me, is that we have to oust a set group of devils who've been that way since Day One. I see no problems proceeding along those lines unless some evidence is presented to make another option seem more likely.
After Wombat says "scoff at my idea, call em an idiot, whatever" at her "lynch Christians" proposal:
Ok then! Not a problem. :PI will give you this, if you really are a devil - or a win-stealing third-party of the kind that, according to my role PM, I don't even have to beat - I have to give you points for inventiveness. Rather than just trying to fake cases on Christians and get them lynched that way, you call for them to lynch themselves? That is so sublimely simple, I wonder that other scum teams don't routinely do it. Maybe they will after this. Maybe you'll start a trend!
Again to Idle:
You are being really, really paranoid here. You are seeing traps where none exist, and you're ignoring the evidence of your own win condition to do it.
First off, your evidence that the game ends - heck, that the game CAN end - when a third-party meets their win condition, is what exactly? That's a ridiculous assumption to make, and again, it contradicts my own win condition. It also contradicts the facts that you provided. The game ends when the devils either win or lose. You know how I know this? Because my own win condition says outright "You have to beat the devils". See how easy this is?
And if I'm genuinely competing with other groups that my wincon says nothing about, I might as well give up now. It's a gastard game, pure and simple. After death, maybe things are different. Or maybe the Pagans have to end up in Zion instead of the Christians' Heaven, and have their own ways of getting there. I don't know. All I care about is that their winning does not affect my chances of doing the same.
Look, I'm fed up of arguing about this. My wincon says I have to beat the devils. Therefore I'm focussing on beating the devils. I don't know about the third parties. It seems ridiculously paranoid to be focussing on them when my win condition specifically says that I have to beat the devils (and nobody else). I suspect that their win/loss status is judged when the devils win or lose, the same as my own is.
Next post:
Agreed. Also I wouldn't go so far as to say I won't be "worrying about" the other factions. I just don't want to focus on them, to the detriment of hunting the faction I know for certain is a threat to me, which is the devils.
As for the third-parties, I will question them as much and as often as I think is necessary... but because I think a devil might be hiding among their claimants (although for reasons already given, I think that's extremely unlikely at the moment. I was already fairly sure that both Wombat and Lightfoot weren't devils even before they claimed, and Lightfoot's confirmation of Crys is good enough for me.)
I appreciate that they will not act in the interests of the Christians if those interests happen to clash with their own. I also see no reason to disbelieve their collective story that said interests do not currently clash, based on their actions (well, that and Wombat's insanity) and - once again - my own win condition. I'm content to keep a wary eye on them, but I'm not going to let them distract me from the devil-hunting that I have to do now my top suspect by miles has just been cleared by a claimed Christian.
And that's it.
Three points:
- The only time I ever claim to be a Christian AFTER Wombat says she's a Heretic is in a hypothetical, at least until the start of Day Four. ("This is what I, as a Christian, would do.")
- My attitude is consistent, right up until Lightfoot's death. At which point "breadcrumbing" my own third-party status starts to look like a seriously bad idea, hence my "distancing" from Wombat.
- Everything I say regarding my own ideas, etc, is the absolute truth. Nope, I have no win condition stating I have to beat the Christians.
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Post by Suburban Plankton on Feb 28, 2013 14:54:15 GMT -5
Yes I have a mechanic power I'm hiding because....you don't talk about your CS. I'm typing from my phone and mixed up the order. So you're saying that the 'mechanic' portion of your role relates to your Cardinal Sin-related ability, and not to any 'normal' ability? That's odd, because I am a 'Mechanic', which fits my Powers...but my CS-related power is an 'Investigator' ability ("you may learn the identity of all players who targeted you and what type of power they used (Killer, Investigator, Manipulator, Mechanic)"). So why am I not a 'Mechanic/Investigator'?
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Post by Suburban Plankton on Feb 28, 2013 15:02:23 GMT -5
I care! I'm willing to lynch one of the claimed masons if RyJae isn't investigating one through her cleansing power. Actually, I'm willing to lynch one regardless at this point. I'll choose Dizzy based on the fact that she just posted that she has a Mechanic protection ability when she doesn't. She has a Mechanic power that she is hiding. Why? Devil recruitment is my guess. Actually, I might buy the explanation that the 'Mechanic' portion of dizzy's role was explained by her being immune to recruitment. From the rules: "Mechanic - can affect game mechanics, including recruiters and vote count powers". One could say that being immune to recruitment 'affects game mechanics', since it prevents recruiters from acting successfully. But dizzy didn't offer that explanation. Instead she claimed a CS-related power, a claim that doesn't stand up to examination.
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Post by Holy Moley! on Feb 28, 2013 15:02:38 GMT -5
Yes I have a mechanic power I'm hiding because....you don't talk about your CS. I'm typing from my phone and mixed up the order. But yes let's once again lynch a doctor/mason. I can't believe the animosity towards masons. Vote: wombatAnd the world's biggest, most racist pot says to the angry kettle: "You are of the negroid persuasion!" Ah, what the hell, I've just seen who the vote decider is. Given that he's also decided to dock me a vote, it appears that I'm freaking dead. See you in hell, guys! (Yeah, I'm a pessimist.) I probably deserve to be lynched, given how badly I've played; but it's still a mislynch. Final thoughts before end of day: - Watch out for Idle. His sudden vote for me, based on suspicions he's apparently had for a long time (but never claimed), makes me think he's a strong suspect for a "recruited" Christian. The fact that he's essentially saving CatInASuit at the same time doesn't help either. If CIAS get killed / lynched and flips devil, Idle should be a priority target. - Wombat is telling the exact truth about her wincon. Let's PLEASE get some non-devil cooperation going, before they kill off every single one of us, ok? G'luck non devils.
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Post by wombat99 on Feb 28, 2013 15:07:08 GMT -5
Didn't Pleo extend the Day 2 hours? Moley, you aren't dead yet.
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Post by Holy Moley! on Feb 28, 2013 15:07:13 GMT -5
Fuck. Too late. Sorry Pleonast.
I'm off to watch a heartwarming movie about a girl who falls in love with a zombie.
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Post by Holy Moley! on Feb 28, 2013 15:09:21 GMT -5
Didn't Pleo extend the Day 2 hours? Moley, you aren't dead yet. ...AGAIN??!!! Can we just not all set our clocks to GMT or something?! Anyway, I still am going to watch the zombie movie. Try not to lynch me in the meantime. G'night all.
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Post by BillMc on Feb 28, 2013 15:12:20 GMT -5
Vote: CAIS
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Post by Suburban Plankton on Feb 28, 2013 15:15:49 GMT -5
Didn't Pleo extend the Day 2 hours? Moley, you aren't dead yet. And by my count, he wouldn't have been dead anyway. CatInASuit had 6 votes (and now 7 with Bill's recent vote) and Moley only 3.
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Post by texcat on Feb 28, 2013 15:32:00 GMT -5
Wombat, can you tell us your role type? Sorry if I've missed it.
Some of the people who have claimed mechanic have to be lying if we are to believe Moley's claim of 11 mechanics. We don't know what storyteller was. He might have been a mechanic.
I am OK with the CiaS lynch toDay, but would much prefer a Mahaloth lynch. Maybe this is how recruiting works? People who target Mahaloth are recruited. Has anyone claimed to have targeted him? His claimed PM would make sense as an effort to ensnare unsuspecting townies into targeting him. Plus I was a little leary of his protests that he was not on Dizzy's original claim list and he needed to be on the list.
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