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Day Six
Mar 5, 2013 11:19:20 GMT -5
Post by Suburban Plankton on Mar 5, 2013 11:19:20 GMT -5
silverjan / Suburban Plankton: Did you ever get a response from Pleo? Right now, I still think one of you must be lying. I have already posted my reply from Pleo, it looks as if because I used both my powers on the same person, namely Suburban Plankton, that I did get a result. No, I don't know how that worked. Wait...what? Where did you say that? My response from Pleo, which I posted back somewhere, was "no Comment."
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Day Six
Mar 5, 2013 11:25:52 GMT -5
Post by texcat on Mar 5, 2013 11:25:52 GMT -5
The more I think about it, the more it is obviously a fake investigation designed to get us both into heaven. I'm not sure I disagree with the idea, but I think that with only 2 Devils dead that it is way too early.
There appears to be no way to derail this wagon train, but I am going to try to do a memory dump that hopefully will be of some help toMorrow.
Wombat, you've been sinning with abandon? I know you reported an investigation of Suburban that came with a disclaimer. Can you tell us how many investigations you have received? I really do not want to know who or what the results were, just the number of people you have investigated.
Has Suburban been cleared by anyone else? Is it possible that he is the Godfather?
Scathach did a very partial claim. It might be worthwhile to pressure her into a full claim.
Ryjae, do not mistrust your powers. Investigations like the one Wombat reported on Suburban came with a disclaimer. If your power did not have a disclaimer, then it was because it did not need one. When you clear someone they are clear.
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Day Six
Mar 5, 2013 11:36:10 GMT -5
Post by crys on Mar 5, 2013 11:36:10 GMT -5
The more I think about it, the more it is obviously a fake investigation designed to get us both into heaven. I'm not sure I disagree with the idea, but I think that with only 2 Devils dead that it is way too early. There appears to be no way to derail this wagon train, but I am going to try to do a memory dump that hopefully will be of some help toMorrow. Wombat, you've been sinning with abandon? I know you reported an investigation of Suburban that came with a disclaimer. Can you tell us how many investigations you have received? I really do not want to know who or what the results were, just the number of people you have investigated. Has Suburban been cleared by anyone else? Is it possible that he is the Godfather? Scathach did a very partial claim. It might be worthwhile to pressure her into a full claim. Ryjae, do not mistrust your powers. Investigations like the one Wombat reported on Suburban came with a disclaimer. If your power did not have a disclaimer, then it was because it did not need one. When you clear someone they are clear. Why would Idle choose you over another?....I think you may be trying to cast suspicion on things and get people to pull their votes. I guess we shall see at the end of today. I can jump on this bandwagon because I have had suspicions of texcat previously and I even voted for her once or twice. Vote: texcat
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Day Six
Mar 5, 2013 11:44:54 GMT -5
Post by texcat on Mar 5, 2013 11:44:54 GMT -5
Did you not see Idle ask me if I was sinless just before he made his fake investigation result public? That's why me.
Did you not see where I said I was trying to help Town for toMorrow?
jumping on the bandwagon indeed
Vote: crys
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Day Six
Mar 5, 2013 11:46:38 GMT -5
Post by Hockey Monkey! on Mar 5, 2013 11:46:38 GMT -5
Vote: texcat
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Day Six
Mar 5, 2013 11:52:41 GMT -5
Post by scáthach on Mar 5, 2013 11:52:41 GMT -5
Scathach did a very partial claim. It might be worthwhile to pressure her into a full claim. Oh, I actually meant to do this earlier: I redacted 2 just in case it actually became a useful thing to do at some point so that I wouldn't get blocked, however I have yet to really see a good use for it frankly. I only used it once, on Suburban, after the lynch shenanigans but I haven't bothered before or since since it seems to require a fairly unusual combination of circumstances to actually do anything. Also, here's what I asked Pleonast just after getting the PM:
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Day Six
Mar 5, 2013 12:07:01 GMT -5
Post by Hockey Monkey! on Mar 5, 2013 12:07:01 GMT -5
It doesn't sound like a Christian power to take protection away from someone. There seem to be quite a few protection powers in play by the good guys and I can see the Devils needing a power like this.
Unvote: scathach
so I can
Vote: scathach again.
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Day Six
Mar 5, 2013 12:09:43 GMT -5
Post by Suburban Plankton on Mar 5, 2013 12:09:43 GMT -5
Also, small niggle, but I don't understand why she wouldn't be an Investigator as well as a Mechanic. I'm an Investigator/Manipulator and my power involves showing role type after a player is killed also. Actually, I think that's a rather large niggle. I missed this point when texcat originally posted her PM, but I think it's a valid point. Her powers as claimed are definitely a combination of Mechanic and Investigator, so her role should reflect that. Vote: texcat I can't see the motivation for Idle to be lying about this, because if texcat flips Town we just come after him Tomorrow...or Tonight. What if anything this tells us about ryjae, I'm not sure yet.
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Day Six
Mar 5, 2013 12:11:53 GMT -5
Post by Hockey Monkey! on Mar 5, 2013 12:11:53 GMT -5
Oh, and I'm sure Idle realizes that if texcat flips Christian, he's the next lynch by default.
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Day Six
Mar 5, 2013 12:14:30 GMT -5
Post by Hockey Monkey! on Mar 5, 2013 12:14:30 GMT -5
Afternoon all, apologies for not being around much. I was expecting to be playing whatever Pleonast had set up for dead people. Nice to see I'm still in the game. Even nicer to see a Devil getting lynched instead ;D Of course, that also means that I also didn't bother doing anything on Night 5, before anyone asks. On top of that, Colby, you seem to have difficulty reading my PM. I cannot target kills away from myself. BTW, has anyone else noticed that in Pleonast's Vote Count, mahaloth is still listed Testing: Vote: mahaloth
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Day Six
Mar 5, 2013 12:23:58 GMT -5
Post by texcat on Mar 5, 2013 12:23:58 GMT -5
Oh, and I'm sure Idle realizes that if texcat flips Christian, he's the next lynch by default. Yea, I wish Idle had just commited suicide. He has some extra powers that trigger when he dies; I guess he can't wait to use them. But just as I am going to flip Christian, so is Idle. OH! Yes, I did edit my PM to remove Investigator. I thought that referred only to my CSin power, and did not want to give anything away about my CSin. I BTW never received any investigation results. Vote: scathach because I can. I'm not sure what to make of her further claim. It makes no sense to me as a town power. It makes even less sense as a fake claim that a Devil might make.
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Day Six
Mar 5, 2013 12:28:26 GMT -5
Post by Idle Thoughts on Mar 5, 2013 12:28:26 GMT -5
So Texcat has a Godfather type role that investigates as Christian? Obviously not, if I got a read of Devil alignment. Idle, I have no idea what you are on about. I am a Christian. Please go re-read your role again because somehow you have gotten the wrong end of the stick. Or is this just a sly way of following the Wombat plan of lynching sinless Christians? First me, then you would be next. You are not voting me so to remain sinless? I have already read it many times...there isn't any room for doubt. This feels like you trying to subtly fish for some info about my Cardinal Sin. And no, I'd vote for you if I could. I can't vote for those I've investigated...and I'm not saying any more about it because if the devils are as smart as I think they are, they'd be able to get it with anything more. Idle, how are you sin free if you used your Cardinal Sin power last Night? Is Texcat right and this is just a ploy? My Cardinal Sin power doesn't cause me to sin. Believe me, I've tripled checked. it doesn't say it anywhere in there. Did you not see Idle ask me if I was sinless just before he made his fake investigation result public? That's why me. I asked you that because I remember Pollux's results saying you were sinning all over the place on Nights 1-3...so I wanted to know if you had used your power last Night (and sinned again) or not. Not sure I believe you didn't, but in any case...don't want a Devil to stay around another Night using a potential abusive power.
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Day Six
Mar 5, 2013 13:27:22 GMT -5
Post by BillMc on Mar 5, 2013 13:27:22 GMT -5
Unvote: all Vote: texcat as I previously said, you seemed overly keen to be cleared by ryjae - so poss godfather
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Day Six
Mar 5, 2013 13:38:17 GMT -5
Post by Holy Moley! on Mar 5, 2013 13:38:17 GMT -5
FUCK. I had suspicions of Texcat right up until Ryjae cleared her.
So either I was being seriously naive then, or I'm being seriously naive now... that said, Vote: Texcat.
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Day Six
Mar 5, 2013 14:28:50 GMT -5
Post by texcat on Mar 5, 2013 14:28:50 GMT -5
Is there a word for this?
Bussing is when a scum throws a fellow scum under the bus for town cred.
What is it when a townie throws a fellow townie under the bus for scum cred? Suicide by bus?
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Day Six
Mar 5, 2013 14:35:37 GMT -5
Post by texcat on Mar 5, 2013 14:35:37 GMT -5
I would like to recommend that anyone else who is sinless at the moment consider removing their vote from me in order to remain sinless, and also not vote for Idle toMorrow. It will not make the slightest bit of difference since I am a runaway lynch.
Guiri, you were the only person who has shown an inkling of knowing that this is just a ploy of Idle's. Please remind the sinless toMorrow not to vote for Idle. I'll be watching from heaven!
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Day Six
Mar 5, 2013 14:41:55 GMT -5
Post by guiri on Mar 5, 2013 14:41:55 GMT -5
Idle, what will happen if you vote for Texcat? A penalty? A sin? Mod-kill? The tooth fairy will leave a silver dollar?
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Day Six
Mar 5, 2013 14:58:30 GMT -5
Post by guiri on Mar 5, 2013 14:58:30 GMT -5
TexCat, I'm dubious of his claim. His result contradicts RyJae's, he doesn't sin when he uses his cardinal sin, and he's not allowed to vote you? If it was just the first, I'd figure you were a godfather or somehow invisibly redirected Colby onto someone else. The second, maybe, but surely the whole point of a cardinal sin is that there's a price to pay for the pleasure? And the third just feels off to me. All three together make me question his motives.
However, if it really were a ploy, why not just make a case for lynching Bill, himself or another sinless Christian? If he really thinks there's a greater benefit in lynching Christians than attempting to lynch devils, why doesn't he just say so and explain why? His own secret info tells us that lynching a Christian is a sin, killing devils helps us. I don't get it, the only explanation is that he has some unique insight into the game design that we're all (except wombat maybe) too dumb to see but then he's causing a bunch of Christians to earn sins, far more than RyJae could cleanse. And if he's also Christian and we lynch him toMorrow, even more sins.
So I'm left scratching my head.
Vote Scathach Vote Moley Vote Chucara Vote CIAS
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Day Six
Mar 5, 2013 15:00:55 GMT -5
Post by dizzymrslizzy on Mar 5, 2013 15:00:55 GMT -5
Tex, so you are saying that Idle is Christian, and you are Christian, and he got some kind of a false read on you?
Can you explain why Idle would have gotten a Devil read from you? You are making no sense....
And /sidenote/....If you are really Christian here, how does it feel....cause I've been feeling it for DAYS...
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Day Six
Mar 5, 2013 15:24:18 GMT -5
Post by wombat99 on Mar 5, 2013 15:24:18 GMT -5
I imagine Chucara (and Moley) are breathing a sigh of relief at the moment.
RyJae, have you posted your actual PM word-for-word? Is it possible for Texcat to have accepted cleansing and be a Devil? At first you said no, there is no room for any ambiguity on the point, but now you are backtracking and saying yes, maybe you can cleanse a Devil? Please explain what in your PM makes you now think that you can cleanse a Devil without dying. Have you changed your mind solely based on Idle's claimed investigation?
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Day Six
Mar 5, 2013 15:34:55 GMT -5
Post by wombat99 on Mar 5, 2013 15:34:55 GMT -5
So Texcat has a Godfather type role that investigates as Christian? Obviously not, if I got a read of Devil alignment. Then how do you explain RyJae's successful cleansing investigation of Texcat?
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Day Six
Mar 5, 2013 15:53:07 GMT -5
Post by texcat on Mar 5, 2013 15:53:07 GMT -5
Tex, so you are saying that Idle is Christian, and you are Christian, and he got some kind of a false read on you? Can you explain why Idle would have gotten a Devil read from you? You are making no sense.... And /sidenote/....If you are really Christian here, how does it feel....cause I've been feeling it for DAYS... He did not get a false read on me. He made the whole thing up out of air. He must have his own reasons for doing so, and I have to believe that it has something to do with his mysterious power that he gets after death. My frustration is not that I am going to die, but that people will start mistrusting Ryjae's investigations. She seems to be the best tool we've got. And that we will be adding sins to all of the people who vote for me and vote for Idle.
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Day Six
Mar 5, 2013 17:02:35 GMT -5
Post by JustBeingGinger on Mar 5, 2013 17:02:35 GMT -5
Vote Scathach
Seriously a power that is Christian that blocks all protective powers from killing???
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Day Six
Mar 5, 2013 18:17:45 GMT -5
Post by Hockey Monkey! on Mar 5, 2013 18:17:45 GMT -5
Afternoon all, apologies for not being around much. I was expecting to be playing whatever Pleonast had set up for dead people. Nice to see I'm still in the game. Even nicer to see a Devil getting lynched instead ;D Of course, that also means that I also didn't bother doing anything on Night 5, before anyone asks. On top of that, Colby, you seem to have difficulty reading my PM. I cannot target kills away from myself. BTW, has anyone else noticed that in Pleonast's Vote Count, mahaloth is still listed Testing: Vote: mahaloth [/color][/quote] mahaloth's name is gone from the day six record. Must have been a simple oversight.
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Day Six
Mar 5, 2013 19:09:08 GMT -5
Post by crys on Mar 5, 2013 19:09:08 GMT -5
Tex, so you are saying that Idle is Christian, and you are Christian, and he got some kind of a false read on you? Can you explain why Idle would have gotten a Devil read from you? You are making no sense.... And /sidenote/....If you are really Christian here, how does it feel....cause I've been feeling it for DAYS... He did not get a false read on me. He made the whole thing up out of air. He must have his own reasons for doing so, and I have to believe that it has something to do with his mysterious power that he gets after death. My frustration is not that I am going to die, but that people will start mistrusting Ryjae's investigations. She seems to be the best tool we've got. And that we will be adding sins to all of the people who vote for me and vote for Idle. I haven't seen anything in any of the pm's that people have posted about a power after death. If anyone else that has been cleared a christian had something similar I think they would have jumped at the chance to help you out. I think you are just trying to cast more doubt and muddy the water some more. If you flip town well then we know that Idle lied, or that possibly there was a redirect. The only other thing I can think of is when you were "cleansed" there might have been a redirect onto a christian, which would give a false positive on a christian read.
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Day Six
Mar 5, 2013 20:14:08 GMT -5
Post by texcat on Mar 5, 2013 20:14:08 GMT -5
He did not get a false read on me. He made the whole thing up out of air. He must have his own reasons for doing so, and I have to believe that it has something to do with his mysterious power that he gets after death. My frustration is not that I am going to die, but that people will start mistrusting Ryjae's investigations. She seems to be the best tool we've got. And that we will be adding sins to all of the people who vote for me and vote for Idle. I haven't seen anything in any of the pm's that people have posted about a power after death. If anyone else that has been cleared a christian had something similar I think they would have jumped at the chance to help you out. I think you are just trying to cast more doubt and muddy the water some more. If you flip town well then we know that Idle lied, or that possibly there was a redirect. The only other thing I can think of is when you were "cleansed" there might have been a redirect onto a christian, which would give a false positive on a christian read. Did you read Idle's claim? Or did you just skip over it because it was not posted in large letters?
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Day Six
Mar 5, 2013 20:32:58 GMT -5
Post by wombat99 on Mar 5, 2013 20:32:58 GMT -5
Idle, does something happen if a certain number of Christians get into heaven? Do we win? Do we all get transported to the great beyond and continue playing?
I'm thinking there has to be a trigger of some kind to go to the next level of the game.
I am suspicious of your claimed investigation. I'm just confused because you were vehemently against the idea of lynching sinless Christians when I brought it up.
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Post by Idle Thoughts on Mar 6, 2013 0:49:38 GMT -5
Idle, what will happen if you vote for Texcat? A penalty? A sin? Mod-kill? The tooth fairy will leave a silver dollar? I don't know. It just says "[...]cannot vote for those you have investigated." The part left out makes sense as to why I couldn't vote for those investigated...but I'm not going to tell you (or anyone else) what that part says. Look, this isn't rocket science. I wouldn't be SO SELFISH to try to get my own teammate killed if I had any doubt...not to mention knowing I'd probably be lynched the next Day if there was any chance of a Christian reveal. I've been playing this game a long time and I think it'd be a pretty foolish move. Texcat IS a Devil...of this I am sure. So you can either lynch her toDay and find out or lynch me to see I'm Christian and then lynch her the next day...but I am telling you.. SHE IS A DEVIL[/size]. Obviously not, if I got a read of Devil alignment. Then how do you explain RyJae's successful cleansing investigation of Texcat? I have no idea. Seems to me it either comes down to: 1. RyJae was wrong in his assumption or misunderstood/misread something. 2. RyJae was recruited early on. 3. SOME kind of redirection or blocking power was at play here that we don't know about yet. Of those three choices, my feeling lies more with 3 then the other choices, but that's just me. Obviously this discussion will be heavily revisited when Texcat flips Devil. Idle, does something happen if a certain number of Christians get into heaven? Do we win? Do we all get transported to the great beyond and continue playing? I have no idea about that either..the only extra info I had, I shared with everyone already. Yeah, and I still think it's a bad idea. That hasn't changed. Texcat is NOT a Christian..although I have to hand it to her, she's definitely putting forward a good defense. Look, it's very simple...if you fall more on believing me..vote for her. If you don't, vote for me.....or don't vote for either of us, if that's what you really want. But TEXCAT IS A DEVIL and it would be FOOLISH to let a known Devil keep living.
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Post by Chucara on Mar 6, 2013 2:55:03 GMT -5
Unvote: all Unvote:
Idle seems sure, and I doubt it is a scum ploy at this state of the game.
Vote: texcat
I am still very suspicious of silverjan, but for Today, I find texcat a better target. As I see it, texcat OR idle is scum, so town for scum is a good trade no matter who is lying.
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Post by Chucara on Mar 6, 2013 2:56:15 GMT -5
See.. this is why I hate the no edit rule Unvote: all Vote: texcat
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