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Post by Pleonast on Mar 7, 2013 15:06:37 GMT -5
A deathly quiet fog blankets all. Speech is muffled below recognition. But a spark of hope precedes the new Day.
No one has died.
It is now Day Seven. It will end on Tuesday Mar 12 at 12n PT.
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Post by crys on Mar 7, 2013 15:15:43 GMT -5
I want to know what good my power is if i can't friggen open any channels. I'm getting really tired of seeing you fail to open a channel. My target was texcat.
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Post by JustBeingGinger on Mar 7, 2013 15:20:37 GMT -5
So last night I prayed for Lauriern and got the confirmation back that she is in Heaven! If Textcat was indeed sinless at the end that would be 5 souls in heaven if I am counting right.
I wonder what would happen if I prayed for a devil's soul, would they end up in heaven???
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Post by wombat99 on Mar 7, 2013 15:23:36 GMT -5
I want to know what good my power is if i can't friggen open any channels. I'm getting really tired of seeing you fail to open a channel. My target was texcat. Sent from my DROID RAZR using proboards Frustrating... I guess you've tried everyone except the dead Devils at this point?
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Post by guiri on Mar 7, 2013 15:26:35 GMT -5
OK, let's lynch a sinless Christian toDay!
Vote Bill Vote Idle
Anyone else without sins who wants an express ticket to heaven?
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Post by wombat99 on Mar 7, 2013 15:27:35 GMT -5
So last night I prayed for Lauriern and got the confirmation back that she is in Heaven! If Textcat was indeed sinless at the end that would be 5 souls in heaven if I am counting right. I wonder what would happen if I prayed for a devil's soul, would they end up in heaven??? Hmmm... interesting thought.... maybe you're meant to be saving Devils' souls from eternal damnation by praying for them?
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Post by Silver Jan on Mar 7, 2013 15:37:14 GMT -5
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Post by wombat99 on Mar 7, 2013 15:40:24 GMT -5
Vote: Idle
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Post by Hockey Monkey! on Mar 7, 2013 16:22:04 GMT -5
I'm going to go against the grain here and not vote to lynch Idle. He obviously wants us to, so perhaps we should think about not doing it. Also Texcat warned us not to vote for him even though she knew he was lying about her, she believed he is Christian with misguided motives.
I think we should lynch someone we think is a devil, so:
Vote: scathach
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Post by Hockey Monkey! on Mar 7, 2013 16:23:06 GMT -5
OK, let's lynch a sinless Christian toDay! Vote Bill Vote IdleAnyone else without sins who wants an express ticket to heaven? Um, nooooooooo. Pretty sure this shouldn't be our course of action. Vote: guiri
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Post by Hockey Monkey! on Mar 7, 2013 16:24:28 GMT -5
Unless maybe we instawin when we get enough souls to heaven?
Hmmm.
Need to think.
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Post by guiri on Mar 7, 2013 16:53:59 GMT -5
That's just it, in what universe would town be expected not to use assigned powers and also be required to lynch known or suspected townies in order to win? It's so anti-game, unmafialike and boring that it could well be the reason we weren't told how to win and why this is a one-off game...
If I understood Idle's ploy yesterDay, he's prioritized getting christians into heaven, lynching devils is secondary.
Common hints: * You must stop the Devils from winning * Lynching or killing Devils will always help your team * Removing your sins will always help your team * increasing [sins] may or may not be beneficial
Idle's extra info: * Lynching a Christian is a sin * Christians that die without sin will go directly to Heaven (this is good) * Christians that die with sin will go to Purgatory until their final fate is determined * If a Devil can determine a Christian's Cardinal Sin, the Devil can claim their soul for Hell (this is bad)
Sinless townies go to heaven directly and that is good. Christians with sins go to purgatory where their fate is decided, apparently between Ginger praying for their soul and devils trying to determine the player's cardinal sin.
So, it's a sin to lynch a christain BUT sometimes sinning is beneficial to our team, a sinless christian goes directly to heaven, a christian with sins risks going to hell. Going to heaven is good, going to hell is bad.
So, in order to win we should not use the powers we've been given, we should have as many sinless christians as possible and lynch them all, the voters should hope to get cleansed before being killed/lynched, if not, hope Ginger can pray for them. Crys can check where they are.
Of course the big piece that's missing here is "Lynching or killing Devils will always help your team", does that start when we run out of christians to lynch? And what about the non-christians?
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Post by Hockey Monkey! on Mar 7, 2013 17:18:38 GMT -5
Silverjan, what's the point of the link? It needs a password for access.
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Post by Hockey Monkey! on Mar 7, 2013 17:20:48 GMT -5
Silverjan, what's the point of the link? It needs a password for access. Nevermind, it's just a link back to the board. What was the purpose of posting it?
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Post by Holy Moley! on Mar 7, 2013 17:33:27 GMT -5
A deathly quiet fog blankets all. Speech is muffled below recognition. But a spark of hope precedes the new Day. No one has died. It is now Day Seven. It will end on Tuesday Mar 12 at 12n PT. CRAP. I forgot that Colby voted for Texcat. So I guess that my making sure he wasn't blocked last night went completely to waste. Are we seriously going back to the idea of lynching sinless Christians? I wasn't "distancing" when I said I thought that would be a terrible, terrible idea. Although I guess if the idea is to get as many people to heaven as possible, I guess it makes a bizarre kind of sense. I would still rather lynch devils, so: Vote: CatInASuit Vote: Scathach Vote: Idle ThoughtsAlthough I suspect that last one might seal our doom. "Original" devils can recruit, "recruited" ones can't, maybe?
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Post by Holy Moley! on Mar 7, 2013 17:34:14 GMT -5
Silverjan, what's the point of the link? It needs a password for access. Nevermind, it's just a link back to the board. What was the purpose of posting it? Proboards does it automatically unless you remember to delete the link. It's very annoying indeed.
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Post by wombat99 on Mar 7, 2013 17:46:19 GMT -5
I have an investigation result on Scathach and she is Christian.
(With the caveat that results may be influenced by game mechanics)
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Post by ryjae on Mar 7, 2013 17:46:51 GMT -5
Christians had a famous betrayer are you Judas Iscariot that is the question I am mulling Idle. I "get" your plan if you were a Christian and are confident in sinless death = win. I just think it could have been done in an honest manner sooner or later anyway.
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Post by crys on Mar 7, 2013 17:58:31 GMT -5
I want to know what good my power is if i can't friggen open any channels. I'm getting really tired of seeing you fail to open a channel. My target was texcat. Sent from my DROID RAZR using proboards Frustrating... I guess you've tried everyone except the dead Devils at this point? Yes Sent from my DROID RAZR using proboards
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Post by Colby11 on Mar 7, 2013 19:07:23 GMT -5
Vote: CIAS
Renewing my vote from yesterday, I still don't trust their claim. Sorry CIAS
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Post by Suburban Plankton on Mar 7, 2013 21:20:03 GMT -5
OK, let's lynch a sinless Christian toDay! Vote IdleI would still rather lynch devils, so: Vote: Idle ThoughtsI'm so confused...are we lynching Idle because he's a Sinless Christian (band name?) or because he's a Devil? As for me...I will be leaving tomorrow morning for a weekend trip, and will have no Internet access other than my phone until we return Sunday evening. I should be able to follow along, but I expect my posting will be light to nonexistent.
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Post by Hockey Monkey! on Mar 7, 2013 22:35:41 GMT -5
I have an investigation result on Scathach and she is Christian. (With the caveat that results may be influenced by game mechanics) Another Hmmmm.....
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Post by Chucara on Mar 7, 2013 22:37:04 GMT -5
Well I for one am lynching scum as this is still mafia. Anything else does not make sense to me.
Vote: Idle
I really don't see how lynching town can help us.
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Post by Hockey Monkey! on Mar 7, 2013 23:27:54 GMT -5
Well I for one am lynching scum as this is still mafia. Anything else does not make sense to me. Vote: Idle [/color] I really don't see how lynching town can help us. [/quote] But is Idle scum? Texcat didn't seem to think so and told us we shouldn't be voting for Idle today even if she were lynched.
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Post by Idle Thoughts on Mar 8, 2013 1:13:10 GMT -5
Moley... Damn, I KNEW that vote for me was all wrong. I'm an idiot. I like you and think you're a good player...but damn, you are sometimes so full of yourself. The vote was not wrong. I voted for you because I found/find you SUSPICIOUS....which is--you know--how the game is played. Moreover it was because you lied and tried to pass yourself off as CHRISTIAN when you weren't.. ..So ANYONE who lies and EXPECTS PEOPLE NOT TO VOTE FOR THEM has some pretty weird viewpoints. That's just it, in what universe would town be expected not to use assigned powers and also be required to lynch known or suspected townies in order to win? It's so anti-game, unmafialike and boring that it could well be the reason we weren't told how to win and why this is a one-off game... If I understood Idle's ploy yesterDay, he's prioritized getting christians into heaven, lynching devils is secondary. Common hints: * You must stop the Devils from winning * Lynching or killing Devils will always help your team * Removing your sins will always help your team * increasing [sins] may or may not be beneficial Idle's extra info: * Lynching a Christian is a sin * Christians that die without sin will go directly to Heaven (this is good)* Christians that die with sin will go to Purgatory until their final fate is determined * If a Devil can determine a Christian's Cardinal Sin, the Devil can claim their soul for Hell (this is bad)Sinless townies go to heaven directly and that is good. Christians with sins go to purgatory where their fate is decided, apparently between Ginger praying for their soul and devils trying to determine the player's cardinal sin. So, it's a sin to lynch a christain BUT sometimes sinning is beneficial to our team, a sinless christian goes directly to heaven, a christian with sins risks going to hell. Going to heaven is good, going to hell is bad. So, in order to win we should not use the powers we've been given, we should have as many sinless christians as possible and lynch them all, the voters should hope to get cleansed before being killed/lynched, if not, hope Ginger can pray for them. Crys can check where they are. Of course the big piece that's missing here is "Lynching or killing Devils will always help your team", does that start when we run out of christians to lynch? And what about the non-christians? And yes, I think I can finally fully say now I agree with this post. I previously had just thought about it....tried it out with my thoughts and opinion on this growing stronger...and now (after rereading my own PM), think it's a good course of action. However I'm also fine with trying to find and kill Devils as well. ------------------------------ Look, I'm not a Devil and haven't been recruited. I merely arrived at the thoughts that guiri had above before he got there based on analyzing my PM. Seems to me the PM DOESN'T SAY how Christians win. No wincon...and it DOES NOT SAY "We have to beat the devils"...as MOLEY so often said before. It says "You have to stop the Devils from winning". THAT, I feel, is a huge difference. "Beating" the devils implies taking them out. "Stopping them from winning" on the other hand,...IMPLIES OTHER WAYS of winning without killing them. Given in combination with "Going to Heaven=good"....it is VERY LIKELY that if we get as many sinless Christians in Heaven as possible, that that side (my own) wins. And another thing.... Ask yourself this, those of you wanting to vote for me... Let's look at it logically... IF I WERE A DEVIL...OR RECRUITED... ..then I would KNOW Texcat wasn't a Devil, right? I'd know she was probably telling the truth as a Christian. Even when I asked her "Are you sin-free?"..and she answered yes...chances are, I'd believe her if I were a Devil, right? Because I'd know she wasn't one of us and that she would have no reason to lie (probably). So WHY ON EARTH would I do something that would make what I would think A SINLESS CHRISTIAN get to Heaven for? It makes no sense. If I were a Devil, why would I want a Christian in Heaven if that is "GOOD FOR CHRISTIANS"? Did none of you voting for me think about that?
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Post by Idle Thoughts on Mar 8, 2013 1:16:15 GMT -5
But hey...it's fine. I DID expect to be voted and lynched toDay...so if that happens, good. Because I'm still sinless and I will go to Heaven. How ya like that, Devils?
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Post by Chucara on Mar 8, 2013 4:39:12 GMT -5
Yet another heads up.. I will be travelling back to Denmark tonight, so I won't be around until Sunday.
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Post by crys on Mar 8, 2013 8:48:42 GMT -5
Moley... Damn, I KNEW that vote for me was all wrong. I'm an idiot. I like you and think you're a good player...but damn, you are sometimes so full of yourself. The vote was not wrong. I voted for you because I found/find you SUSPICIOUS....which is--you know--how the game is played. Moreover it was because you lied and tried to pass yourself off as CHRISTIAN when you weren't.. ..So ANYONE who lies and EXPECTS PEOPLE NOT TO VOTE FOR THEM has some pretty weird viewpoints. That's just it, in what universe would town be expected not to use assigned powers and also be required to lynch known or suspected townies in order to win? It's so anti-game, unmafialike and boring that it could well be the reason we weren't told how to win and why this is a one-off game... If I understood Idle's ploy yesterDay, he's prioritized getting christians into heaven, lynching devils is secondary. Common hints: * You must stop the Devils from winning * Lynching or killing Devils will always help your team * Removing your sins will always help your team * increasing [sins] may or may not be beneficial Idle's extra info: * Lynching a Christian is a sin * Christians that die without sin will go directly to Heaven (this is good)* Christians that die with sin will go to Purgatory until their final fate is determined * If a Devil can determine a Christian's Cardinal Sin, the Devil can claim their soul for Hell (this is bad)Sinless townies go to heaven directly and that is good. Christians with sins go to purgatory where their fate is decided, apparently between Ginger praying for their soul and devils trying to determine the player's cardinal sin. So, it's a sin to lynch a christain BUT sometimes sinning is beneficial to our team, a sinless christian goes directly to heaven, a christian with sins risks going to hell. Going to heaven is good, going to hell is bad. So, in order to win we should not use the powers we've been given, we should have as many sinless christians as possible and lynch them all, the voters should hope to get cleansed before being killed/lynched, if not, hope Ginger can pray for them. Crys can check where they are. Of course the big piece that's missing here is "Lynching or killing Devils will always help your team", does that start when we run out of christians to lynch? And what about the non-christians? And yes, I think I can finally fully say now I agree with this post. I previously had just thought about it....tried it out with my thoughts and opinion on this growing stronger...and now (after rereading my own PM), think it's a good course of action. However I'm also fine with trying to find and kill Devils as well. ------------------------------ Look, I'm not a Devil and haven't been recruited. I merely arrived at the thoughts that guiri had above before he got there based on analyzing my PM. Seems to me the PM DOESN'T SAY how Christians win. No wincon...and it DOES NOT SAY "We have to beat the devils"...as MOLEY so often said before. It says "You have to stop the Devils from winning". THAT, I feel, is a huge difference. "Beating" the devils implies taking them out. "Stopping them from winning" on the other hand,...IMPLIES OTHER WAYS of winning without killing them. Given in combination with "Going to Heaven=good"....it is VERY LIKELY that if we get as many sinless Christians in Heaven as possible, that that side (my own) wins. And another thing.... Ask yourself this, those of you wanting to vote for me... Let's look at it logically... IF I WERE A DEVIL...OR RECRUITED... ..then I would KNOW Texcat wasn't a Devil, right? I'd know she was probably telling the truth as a Christian. Even when I asked her "Are you sin-free?"..and she answered yes...chances are, I'd believe her if I were a Devil, right? Because I'd know she wasn't one of us and that she would have no reason to lie (probably). So WHY ON EARTH would I do something that would make what I would think A SINLESS CHRISTIAN get to Heaven for? It makes no sense. If I were a Devil, why would I want a Christian in Heaven if that is "GOOD FOR CHRISTIANS"? Did none of you voting for me think about that? The only major problem i have with this is that you caused so many christians to sin. So many sinned and there is no way ryjae and ginger can keep up with trying to cleanse. That is the part that really bothers me. Sent from my DROID RAZR using proboards
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Post by Silver Jan on Mar 8, 2013 9:50:30 GMT -5
Silverjan, what's the point of the link? It needs a password for access. Ack, I meant to copy and paste the PM I received, my bad.
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Post by Silver Jan on Mar 8, 2013 9:53:15 GMT -5
It also bothers me that Idle caused people to sin, it's a bit of "I'm alright Jack, screw the rest of you"
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