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Day Ten
Mar 21, 2013 14:06:25 GMT -5
Post by Pleonast on Mar 21, 2013 14:06:25 GMT -5
The Night turns muggy. Sweat trips off inconvenient locales. When Dawn emerges, a cold corpse is found in the warm copse.
scathach, a Christian, is dead.
It is now Day Ten. It will end on Tuesday Mar 26 at 12n PT.
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Day Ten
Mar 21, 2013 14:53:23 GMT -5
Post by wombat99 on Mar 21, 2013 14:53:23 GMT -5
Well... I guess
Vote: Ginger
Because she hasn't been investigated and we only have her word that she is who she says she is.
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Day Ten
Mar 21, 2013 15:02:46 GMT -5
Post by Suburban Plankton on Mar 21, 2013 15:02:46 GMT -5
"You fail to be cleansed of your sins."
ryjae, can you shed some light on this?
Vote: wombat99
for reasons explained last Night.
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Day Ten
Mar 21, 2013 15:10:09 GMT -5
Post by JustBeingGinger on Mar 21, 2013 15:10:09 GMT -5
Well... I guess Vote: Ginger [/color] Because she hasn't been investigated and we only have her word that she is who she says she is.[/quote] and it is my fault for not being investigated? You can take a chance and lynch me and lynch the only player that can send people to heaven after death... Good choice... So that I don't have to look back, Wombat what alignment did you claim? And what reason would I have to visit guiri on night 1 being a Devil? I prayed for Silverjan last night. She is in Purgatory... I am not sure if I am being blocked the last two nights or if that they had too many sins and I only take away half.
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Day Ten
Mar 21, 2013 16:07:27 GMT -5
Post by Suburban Plankton on Mar 21, 2013 16:07:27 GMT -5
As I recall, Jan mentioned having a whole passel of sins at one point.
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Day Ten
Mar 21, 2013 17:21:36 GMT -5
Post by ryjae on Mar 21, 2013 17:21:36 GMT -5
No clue "You fail to cleanse Suburban Plankton of sins." Has only happened once before (Bill).
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Day Ten
Mar 21, 2013 17:57:08 GMT -5
Post by wombat99 on Mar 21, 2013 17:57:08 GMT -5
No clue "You fail to cleanse Suburban Plankton of sins." Has only happened once before (Bill). Possibly RyJae was blocked again. It wasn't me this time, though.
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Day Ten
Mar 22, 2013 0:07:39 GMT -5
Post by Colby11 on Mar 22, 2013 0:07:39 GMT -5
Ok, as maybe some people can tell, I killed Scathach. So, several things are going off in my head
1- why no scum kill? Last I checked, we had no claimed doctors left 2- could the people in Heaven be helping us?
Now, some votes
Vote: Wombat because of their heretic claim, plus voting for Ginger because Wombat hasn't had enough time to visit her? Really?
Vote: Suburban Plankton Cause honestly, I am not confident in your claim, I feel like I need to double check your claim, and that's pretty much it
Killing me tonight would be stupid for scum, since I am going to cleanse myself of my sins tonight.... So, let's have some fun
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Day Ten
Mar 22, 2013 10:14:01 GMT -5
Post by wombat99 on Mar 22, 2013 10:14:01 GMT -5
@Ginger - My alignment is Heretic. I don't agree that saying you used your power on Guiri N1 clears you - if you're a devil, that's just a good way to get some townie cred (just like the way scum vote for each other all the time; why not "use your powers" on each other too?)
The biggest reason I am voting for Ginger is that there isn't anywhere else to go, unless we are saying that RyJae's cleansing investigations are now in doubt. Bill, Idle, and now Suburban have been cleared by RyJae. RyJae has assured us that there is no way that her investigation could be influenced by godfathers or redirects or any other game mechanics. Colby has killed two devils. Can't get townier than that.
Of course, it is also very possible that there aren't any more devils and we just need to get some more players into Heaven. RyJae being blocked supports this. Someone wanted to prevent her from cleansing sins last Night.
@Colby - I don't get to choose my investigation targets.
I have used my block/protect on dead Devils on most Nights. I don't know if that has meant that I have blocked NKs or not. We don't know for sure that the devils have a traditional NK.
Like I said Yesterday - I think it would be better if I was cleansed then vigged. I have (I think) 12 sins.
Again, we don't know the win conditions for this game, but we have been told that killing devils is good and getting Christians into heaven is good. Killing a Heretic with 12 sins does nothing to advance that win condition at all and is just grasping at straws. And I understand that. I'm clueless about how to go forward too.
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Day Ten
Mar 22, 2013 13:15:49 GMT -5
Post by BillMc on Mar 22, 2013 13:15:49 GMT -5
Killing me tonight would be stupid for scum, since I am going to cleanse myself of my sins tonight.... So, let's have some fun Colby you are still pinging the hell out of me - especially this post. You seem to be sure that your cleansing would resolve before a kill - but we have no evidence one way or the other in which order they would resolve. Now, folk with 4 penalties would be mod killed - but not removed from the game, so on that basis, if someone without sin was modkilled, they would go to heaven. Interesting that you chose to forgive idle; equally interesting that given idle is so damn keen to be killed, he just didnt get himself modkilled into heaven.
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Day Ten
Mar 22, 2013 13:52:18 GMT -5
Post by Colby11 on Mar 22, 2013 13:52:18 GMT -5
Killing me tonight would be stupid for scum, since I am going to cleanse myself of my sins tonight.... So, let's have some fun Colby you are still pinging the hell out of me - especially this post. You seem to be sure that your cleansing would resolve before a kill - but we have no evidence one way or the other in which order they would resolve. Now, folk with 4 penalties would be mod killed - but not removed from the game, so on that basis, if someone without sin was modkilled, they would go to heaven. Interesting that you chose to forgive idle; equally interesting that given idle is so damn keen to be killed, he just didnt get himself modkilled into heaven. I will make sure to ask, Bill. I am not forgiving Idle, I am of the opinion that he thinks we all need to die and go to Heaven to win. I don't think that is the case.
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Day Ten
Mar 22, 2013 13:54:48 GMT -5
Post by Colby11 on Mar 22, 2013 13:54:48 GMT -5
@wombat- is your investigative power at random, or has some other way of determining who you can investigate (which I will not dwell into)?
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Day Ten
Mar 22, 2013 14:29:06 GMT -5
Post by wombat99 on Mar 22, 2013 14:29:06 GMT -5
@wombat- is your investigative power at random, or has some other way of determining who you can investigate (which I will not dwell into)? No, it isn't random.
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Day Ten
Mar 22, 2013 18:34:11 GMT -5
Post by Idle Thoughts on Mar 22, 2013 18:34:11 GMT -5
As far as I can tell, it doesn't say anywhere that being killed due to getting penalties allows you to have the same death you'd get if you died in-game. For all we know, getting four penalties may also bring sin with it. Or be sent to automatic Purgatory. I'm not willing to take that chance.
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Day Ten
Mar 23, 2013 0:42:22 GMT -5
Post by Colby11 on Mar 23, 2013 0:42:22 GMT -5
Per Pleonast- " Killing roles normally won't affect other powers"
@idle- We aren't told exactly what would happen. Besides, I still think you are town, personally.
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Day Ten
Mar 25, 2013 0:08:51 GMT -5
Post by Colby11 on Mar 25, 2013 0:08:51 GMT -5
Let the crickets chirp
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Day Ten
Mar 25, 2013 8:54:41 GMT -5
Post by wombat99 on Mar 25, 2013 8:54:41 GMT -5
So, everybody's ok with Ginger's claim?
Everybody's ok with sending me to purgatory with 12 sins?
No consideration of the idea that we have already killed all the devils and we need to get players to heaven to win?
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Day Ten
Mar 25, 2013 9:50:50 GMT -5
Post by Colby11 on Mar 25, 2013 9:50:50 GMT -5
Ginger's Claim Ok so here is my claim since the votes are racking up on me... 06. The Intercessor, Christian, Mechanic/Investigator - JustBeingGinger Role Name: The Intercessor Alignment: Christian Victory Conditions: 1. You must stop the Devils from winning. You don't exactly know what that entails, but here are some hints: a. Lynching or killing Devils will always help your team. b. Removing your sins will always help your team, but increasing them may or may not be beneficial. c. Never reveal to another player nor allow another player to figure out your Cardinal Sin. Role Type: Mechanic/Investigator Powers: 1. Each Night you may pray for another living or dead player. This will reduce their sins by half. If you target a living player, they cannot be recruited that Night. If you target a dead player, their soul cannot be claimed by a Devil that Night. You will also learn where a dead player's soul is. Initial Sins: 1 The first night I cleared Guiri of a sin or half of his sins, I have no idea how many he started out with. Night 2 I cleared SisC of her sins, for which I got a PM saying that SisC is in Heaven. Plank's claim You're right...you did post that earlier. Apparently I've been skimming too Anyway, I guess that makes it my turn: Holy Moley, you don't need to bother with voting Today. I did not use my vote manipulation powers before last Night. And I haven't used my second power at all, obviously. I was going to omit that, but since texcat has already claimed the 'opposite' power, I figured I'd speak out. FTR, I don't think that Pleonast would have given such powers to Scum, since that would seem to give them a great advantage, so I'm pretty sure that texcat is a Christian (or at least started the game that way). First off, Unvote: Wombat I think I have caught Plankton in a lie. Before SilverJan died, she claimed that SP didn't visit anyone the night before. Yet, he claims to have blocked wombat's vote. I think Plankon is the last scum. End of story. That's where my vote is, and whom I should have killed last night
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Day Ten
Mar 25, 2013 9:58:36 GMT -5
Post by Suburban Plankton on Mar 25, 2013 9:58:36 GMT -5
Bill, Idle, and now Suburban have been cleared by RyJae. I don't beleieve that either Bill or myself have been cleared by ryjae. You blocked ryjae on Night 3 when he attempted to cleanse Bill, and something else seems to have foiled his action last Night.
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Day Ten
Mar 25, 2013 10:19:02 GMT -5
Post by wombat99 on Mar 25, 2013 10:19:02 GMT -5
Bill, Idle, and now Suburban have been cleared by RyJae. I don't beleieve that either Bill or myself have been cleared by ryjae. You blocked ryjae on Night 3 when he attempted to cleanse Bill, and something else seems to have foiled his action last Night. But RyJae would be dead at lynch time if a devil accepted her cleansing, and she says that both you and Bill accepted. So, in my mind, the investigation has occurred that Day, regardless of whether the sin-cleansing occurs that Night or is blocked. Do I have this right? It's very possible that I don't.
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Day Ten
Mar 25, 2013 11:09:25 GMT -5
Post by wombat99 on Mar 25, 2013 11:09:25 GMT -5
I think I have caught Plankton in a lie. Before SilverJan died, she claimed that SP didn't visit anyone the night before. Yet, he claims to have blocked wombat's vote. I think Plankon is the last scum. End of story. That's where my vote is, and whom I should have killed last night I can only find reference to Suburban saying he used his power once on Holy Moley, not me, but not specifying which Night that happened.
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Day Ten
Mar 25, 2013 11:28:36 GMT -5
Post by Suburban Plankton on Mar 25, 2013 11:28:36 GMT -5
I think I have caught Plankton in a lie. Before SilverJan died, she claimed that SP didn't visit anyone the night before. Yet, he claims to have blocked wombat's vote. I think Plankon is the last scum. End of story. That's where my vote is, and whom I should have killed last night I can only find reference to Suburban saying he used his power once on Holy Moley, not me, but not specifying which Night that happened. I used my power on Holy Moley on Night 4, and as I recall silverjan reported that I visited Moley that Night. That is the only time I used my ability, and I don't recall anyone indicating anything to the contrary.
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Day Ten
Mar 25, 2013 11:28:40 GMT -5
Post by JustBeingGinger on Mar 25, 2013 11:28:40 GMT -5
So, everybody's ok with Ginger's claim? Everybody's ok with sending me to purgatory with 12 sins? No consideration of the idea that we have already killed all the devils and we need to get players to heaven to win? I am still having a issue with you trying to get people on your bandwagon to vote for me. If I am lynched and I am a Christian, to my knowledge I am the only one that can effect the dead and the possibility of them going to heaven. You are willing to take a chance to see me lynch. I also find it odd that the last two nights I have prayed for people and they have wound up in purgatory. You just so happen to have a blocking power and the only one voting for me and pushing my lynch. Blocking me is very anti-town, wouldn't you say? vote Wombat
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Day Ten
Mar 25, 2013 11:41:04 GMT -5
Post by wombat99 on Mar 25, 2013 11:41:04 GMT -5
So, everybody's ok with Ginger's claim? Everybody's ok with sending me to purgatory with 12 sins? No consideration of the idea that we have already killed all the devils and we need to get players to heaven to win? I am still having a issue with you trying to get people on your bandwagon to vote for me. If I am lynched and I am a Christian, to my knowledge I am the only one that can effect the dead and the possibility of them going to heaven. You are willing to take a chance to see me lynch. I also find it odd that the last two nights I have prayed for people and they have wound up in purgatory. You just so happen to have a blocking power and the only one voting for me and pushing my lynch. Blocking me is very anti-town, wouldn't you say? vote WombatI didn't block you last night (or any night). I blocked a dead devil last night. The people who are in purgatory are probably there because they were killed with so many sins that removing half of them still keeps them in purgatory and unable to reach heaven.
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Day Ten
Mar 25, 2013 15:01:27 GMT -5
Post by Colby11 on Mar 25, 2013 15:01:27 GMT -5
So, everybody's ok with Ginger's claim? Everybody's ok with sending me to purgatory with 12 sins? No consideration of the idea that we have already killed all the devils and we need to get players to heaven to win? I am still having a issue with you trying to get people on your bandwagon to vote for me. If I am lynched and I am a Christian, to my knowledge I am the only one that can effect the dead and the possibility of them going to heaven. You are willing to take a chance to see me lynch. I also find it odd that the last two nights I have prayed for people and they have wound up in purgatory. You just so happen to have a blocking power and the only one voting for me and pushing my lynch. Blocking me is very anti-town, wouldn't you say? vote WombatIf wombat blocked you, then you shouldn't have gotten any result. I think it's more that they have too many sins. Remember, you get sent to Purgatory if you do have sin.
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Day Ten
Mar 25, 2013 15:11:00 GMT -5
Post by Colby11 on Mar 25, 2013 15:11:00 GMT -5
Then explain why both SilverJan and Crys got lynched? Also, why didn't Idle get lynched yesterday?
Plankton is the only person who has vote blocking powers, and it seems like wombat's vote was blocked.
2 plus 2 equals Suburban Plankton should be lynched.
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Day Ten
Mar 25, 2013 16:38:34 GMT -5
Post by Suburban Plankton on Mar 25, 2013 16:38:34 GMT -5
Then explain why both SilverJan and Crys got lynched? Also, why didn't Idle get lynched yesterday? Plankton is the only person who has vote blocking powers, and it seems like wombat's vote was blocked. 2 plus 2 equals Suburban Plankton should be lynched. CORRECTION: I am the only person who has claimed vote-blocking powers. FTR, I also have a vote-doubling powers, but I haven't used that at all. If you recall, texcat had the following power: "Once per game during the Day, you may choose the player to be lynched, instead of the player with the most votes. They must have your active vote on them and at least one other active vote (that isn't yours) at the end of the Day.", and was responsible for Pollux being lynched on Day 3, despite being the third vote-getter. In addition, Bill has claimed (more or less) to have been responsible for CIAS being lynched on Day 7. We seem to have quite a number of vote-manipulating powers in the game. And I'm inclined to think that all of them are in the hands of Christians (or at least non-Devils). We know texcat was Christian. It seems quite unlikely that Bill is a Devil, even if there's a chance that he's a non-Christian. And I know that I am Christian. When you think about it, it makes perfect sense, because giving vote-manipulating powers to Scum (or Devils in this case) makes for a rather unbalanced game.
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Day Ten
Mar 25, 2013 17:35:12 GMT -5
Post by JustBeingGinger on Mar 25, 2013 17:35:12 GMT -5
I am still having a issue with you trying to get people on your bandwagon to vote for me. If I am lynched and I am a Christian, to my knowledge I am the only one that can effect the dead and the possibility of them going to heaven. You are willing to take a chance to see me lynch. I also find it odd that the last two nights I have prayed for people and they have wound up in purgatory. You just so happen to have a blocking power and the only one voting for me and pushing my lynch. Blocking me is very anti-town, wouldn't you say? vote WombatIf wombat blocked you, then you shouldn't have gotten any result. I think it's more that they have too many sins. Remember, you get sent to Purgatory if you do have sin. I don't know if I was really blocked or not. The action is praying and so if I was blocked I am not sure what response I would get. Lets say if silverjan only had 2 sins. I pray for her to go to heaven and if I am blocked, the response could be she is in purgatory. I am just not sure.
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Day Ten
Mar 25, 2013 18:16:31 GMT -5
Post by wombat99 on Mar 25, 2013 18:16:31 GMT -5
Then explain why both SilverJan and Crys got lynched? Also, why didn't Idle get lynched yesterday? Plankton is the only person who has vote blocking powers, and it seems like wombat's vote was blocked. 2 plus 2 equals Suburban Plankton should be lynched. CORRECTION: I am the only person who has claimed vote-blocking powers. FTR, I also have a vote-doubling powers, but I haven't used that at all. If you recall, texcat had the following power: "Once per game during the Day, you may choose the player to be lynched, instead of the player with the most votes. They must have your active vote on them and at least one other active vote (that isn't yours) at the end of the Day.", and was responsible for Pollux being lynched on Day 3, despite being the third vote-getter. In addition, Bill has claimed (more or less) to have been responsible for CIAS being lynched on Day 7. We seem to have quite a number of vote-manipulating powers in the game. And I'm inclined to think that all of them are in the hands of Christians (or at least non-Devils). We know texcat was Christian. It seems quite unlikely that Bill is a Devil, even if there's a chance that he's a non-Christian. And I know that I am Christian. When you think about it, it makes perfect sense, because giving vote-manipulating powers to Scum (or Devils in this case) makes for a rather unbalanced game. I don't know how this fits in to the puzzle exactly, but I know for a fact (from the Mod) that there were 48 valid votes cast on Day 3. Only 44 were publicly recorded. Suburban says it wasn't him. Texcat and Bill seem to have powers to change the lynch, but not by adding a certain number of votes. Can anyone explain the 4 hidden votes on Day 3? (I have no information on the existence of hidden votes on other Days; they may exist - I don't know.) Some time back, the idea was brought up that maybe dead players are still able to vote.
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Day Ten
Mar 25, 2013 18:22:07 GMT -5
Post by wombat99 on Mar 25, 2013 18:22:07 GMT -5
Then explain why both SilverJan and Crys got lynched? Also, why didn't Idle get lynched yesterday? Plankton is the only person who has vote blocking powers, and it seems like wombat's vote was blocked. 2 plus 2 equals Suburban Plankton should be lynched. Why do you say it seems like my vote was blocked? I'm not following you.
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