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Post by guiri on Apr 28, 2013 2:41:50 GMT -5
Anyways, we need a legit lynch going. Peeker does need to claim and I'll switch to him if he doesn't. Better safe than sorry. Right now Peeker's a pretty good D1 candidate, even if he's denied it, once his "slip" was pointed out, he went very quiet, even on his day off, and has posted but not claimed anything. Vote PeekerHOW do you know Peeks isn't a basic townie?/quote]Why so protective? Vote SilverJanI know there are basic villagers, but I am not sure if they have a role or not. If this paints a target on me as being not niller, I think the majority of people in this game are not niller... What's this? Why? Vote Ginger
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Post by Sai on Apr 28, 2013 2:49:39 GMT -5
HOW do you know Peeks isn't a basic townie? Because if it's from the way he has posted well then you are really good. Forcing someone to claim on D1 is so not good. Vote SaiHe didn't know that basic townies have powers. That's a pretty good indicator.
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Post by Sai on Apr 28, 2013 2:53:38 GMT -5
Also, sitting on the idea that I want Peeker to lie is not townie. It's only if he's one of two roles, and the way in which he claims can be modified to make that unnecessary. The fact that he shouldn't explicitly claim Bishop or Priest remains true, and I've explained it enough that I'm sure you should understand it.
You know this, so I think you repeating the idea that I want peeker to lie as though repetition will make it true is terribly scummy. It's not true, it ignores the fact that the proposal is better for the town, and it's a side issue that you're harping on to try to make me appear less town.
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Post by swammerdami on Apr 28, 2013 4:40:01 GMT -5
There are five player types in this game: 4 Holy Villagers (Priest, Bishop, Acolyte, Nun) 10 Basic Villagers 3 Village Spies 4 Elder Witches 3 Junior Witches The Witches already have lists of Spies and Witches, so I'll tell them something they already know: I am either a Basic or a Holy Villager. I encourage other Basic/Holy Villagers to make a similar declaration. It does appear Peeker is not a Basic Villager. Two other Players have posted in ways that imply they are also not Basic Villagers. I'm afraid these will be the default Lynchees until they clarify their "claims". (No details -- Posts don't seem to have #'s to share, and I haven't read the tutorial on new multi-quoting.) Vote: PeekerIn a discussion about Townies lying, Sai said: "Can do it as Nun/Bishop or Acolyte/Priest instead if you want, but that's semantics." In other words, claiming Acolyte when Priest isn't really a lie if that really implies Acolyte/Priest. I agree with this, though find the non-lying "Acolyte/Priest" more straightforward. Similarly, fake Detective results to protect real Detective aren't lies if phrased as "IF I am a Detective THEN Peeks is a Witch." (This is a purely hypothetical example. ) Are we allowed multiple votes? If so, Vote to Lynch: "Improved" Proboard software
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Post by Hal Briston on Apr 28, 2013 7:42:11 GMT -5
Hi All,
Exceptionally crappy of me, I know, but I'm going to need to drop from this. After 15 years on the job, my company unceremoniously shitcanned me without warning last week. I've got a lot to do to make sure my family stays afloat, so timesuckers like this (while I do love them so) are going to have be trimmed off for the time being.
Sorry about that, everyone -- go <my side>!
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Post by Mahaloth on Apr 28, 2013 12:30:17 GMT -5
Vote peeker - He does need to claim, I think, at this point. This may have screwed us over if he is a very strong role, but the fact he hasn't claim may make him a witch.
Vote silverjan - intentional density? or trying to save a witch partner?
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Post by Mahaloth on Apr 28, 2013 12:30:51 GMT -5
Hi All, Exceptionally crappy of me, I know, but I'm going to need to drop from this. After 15 years on the job, my company unceremoniously shitcanned me without warning last week. I've got a lot to do to make sure my family stays afloat, so timesuckers like this (while I do love them so) are going to have be trimmed off for the time being. Sorry about that, everyone -- go <my side>! I may be joining you on the unemployment line soon. Very sorry to hear about this, Hal.
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Post by Silver Jan on Apr 28, 2013 14:17:09 GMT -5
Vote peeker - He does need to claim, I think, at this point. This may have screwed us over if he is a very strong role, but the fact he hasn't claim may make him a witch. Vote silverjan - intentional density? or trying to save a witch partner? I'm not trying to save anyone, not even myself now.
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Post by ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies on Apr 28, 2013 14:43:03 GMT -5
vote peeker
Fine, lets have a claim then.
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Post by ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies on Apr 28, 2013 14:43:58 GMT -5
No color text if pro boards iPhone app
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Post by JustBeingGinger on Apr 28, 2013 15:31:05 GMT -5
I don't like the fact that Peeker has not come on and either claimed or explained himself. I was not suspicious of to begin with but as the day draws to a close and there is not sign of him...
Vote Peeker
I will not be around for EOD, I hit the sack about 9PM EST, I will be on till about then.
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Post by scáthach on Apr 28, 2013 15:41:25 GMT -5
The Witches already have lists of Spies and Witches, so I'll tell them something they already know: I am either a Basic or a Holy Villager. I encourage other Basic/Holy Villagers to make a similar declaration. Why? What does this achieve? In other news peeker [/b] For reasons better stated by others but basically -for disappearing when under pressure -for not claiming Do the vote tags work any more? They didn't show up on preview?
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Post by scáthach on Apr 28, 2013 15:42:12 GMT -5
Urg. This is what happens when I must hand tag my votes!
vote peeker
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Post by sario on Apr 28, 2013 17:13:40 GMT -5
As I'm not likely to be able to post again until tomorrow, let me get my votes in. Vote Peeker
Mainly for disappearing when suspicion started to get heavy. Vote SilverjanFor reasons best stated here by SaiIf anyone has any questions about my votes, I'll be on tomorrow.
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Post by lauriern on Apr 28, 2013 17:34:40 GMT -5
Vote: PeekerFor this: their are ten "basic villagers". i kind of read that as nillers. so are you suggesting that even "basic villagers" have powers? and this new format sucks. Are you saying you're not a basic villager? If you were, you would know the answer to your own question...... And I agree - these new boards suck
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Post by Paranoia on Apr 28, 2013 21:29:41 GMT -5
I should be Paying More Attention Votals
Peeker (11): dizzymrslizzy, Pleo, Texcat, Guiri, Swammerdami, Mahaloth, Cookies, JBG, scathach, sario, lauriern Sai (2): crys, Silverjan Hal (1): Peeker silverjan (1): Sai
Abstaining (10): Idle Thoughts, Wombat, lauriern, BillMC, Patricia, Colby, JBG, Pollux, Gnarlycharlie, Hal
WITH 24 ALIVE, IT TAKES 13 TO LYNCH. DEADLINE IS IN HALF AN HOUR.
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Post by Sai on Apr 28, 2013 21:34:22 GMT -5
Posting to say that I am here, but not willing to hammer Peeker without him being online.
Can we perhaps get a 1 day extension due to inactivity?
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Post by Paranoia on Apr 28, 2013 21:42:39 GMT -5
Please note everyone only has one vote, but may vote for any other living player.
Edit: certainly. Day will end on the 29th instead, at 10:00 PM CDT.
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Post by Sai on Apr 28, 2013 22:51:11 GMT -5
Ok. Ok.
Situation is, we need 2 votes to lynch Peeker. That is exactly what's going to happen if he doesn't claim at least the information that the witches already have within the next 20ish hours.
That said, if he gets hammered before a reasonable amount of time has passed, we should lynch those involved in the blitz for, well, obvious reasons.
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Post by Colby11 on Apr 28, 2013 22:58:06 GMT -5
I am hesitant to vote for Peeks, personally. I feel that we could possibly gleam more information from his NK
But I can be wrong.
Sai, since you are on, what do you think?
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Post by Colby11 on Apr 28, 2013 23:25:04 GMT -5
Or lack of a kill
I have to put a vote down, or not have a vote.
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Post by Colby11 on Apr 28, 2013 23:33:40 GMT -5
Because he is possibly a Witch- Vote: Peeker
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Post by Sai on Apr 29, 2013 2:43:16 GMT -5
Colby - there are 2 votes required to lynch him. I'd encourage you to leave your vote off if you can be on before PC, since someone might not catch up in the thread and then hammer, or hammer and then pretend to not be caught up.
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Post by swammerdami on Apr 29, 2013 2:43:26 GMT -5
The Witches already have lists of Spies and Witches, so I'll tell them something they already know: I am either a Basic or a Holy Villager. I encourage other Basic/Holy Villagers to make a similar declaration. Why? What does this achieve? I've played about eleven games by now and this may be the first time I've heard a Player suggest that information is bad for Town -- when it's information that Scum already have.
Town is information-deprived in this Game, with no death reveal, so we should find ways to acquire information, especially information that Scum already have.I see three possibilities: - Scathach is Witch, trying to suppress Village's information exchange.
- Scathach is Witch, fishing for Villagers to give away their characters by revealing specific uses for the data.
- Scathach is misguided Townie.
Misguided Townies may be plentiful in this game, but I still find Scathach's scum-tell to be worth a Day 1 vote. I may move my vote if Peeker comes back. (My "Preview" question is resolved, I guess. Preview/BBCode is a binary switch, so "Preview" is the default view. I discovered this when I found no way to edit this post without a temporary switch to BBCode. )
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Post by Sai on Apr 29, 2013 2:43:27 GMT -5
Well, one now with yours.
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Post by Sai on Apr 29, 2013 2:48:17 GMT -5
swammer - I agree that scathath's line there is bad. What do you think about other players who are saying the same thing, in particular silverjan?
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Post by Sai on Apr 29, 2013 3:20:43 GMT -5
Actually, swammer - upon rereading, I realized something. If a Witch/Jr claims Holy/Basic, then the other kind of Witch knows for sure they're not a spy. So if everyone does that, the witches instantly know all the spies.
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Post by guiri on Apr 29, 2013 3:55:30 GMT -5
When a majority is reached, the person is automatically lynched. (The moderator holds the town accountable to a reasonable deadline along with ample warnings; if the deadline arrives, the default lynch target is no one.) Once lynch announcements conclude, the day ends and night begins. DEADLINE IS IN FIVE NIGHTS, 10:00 PM CDT ON APRIL 28TH. Can we perhaps get a 1 day extension due to inactivity? Edit: certainly. Day will end on the 29th instead, at 10:00 PM CDT. Apart from hammering the lynch candidates, what are the rules around duration of Day and Night? Are deadlines flexible depending on requests from individual players?Actually, swammer - upon rereading, I realized something. If a Witch/Jr claims Holy/Basic, then the other kind of Witch knows for sure they're not a spy. So if everyone does that, the witches instantly know all the spies. Yes, the whole claim thing falls apart when villagers are forced to lie.
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Post by scáthach on Apr 29, 2013 3:59:32 GMT -5
Regarding the extension: I only did it primarily because I didn't provide advanced warning of day end, not because Sai asked. Day will only be extended in the future if a fair sum of people request it.
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Post by scáthach on Apr 29, 2013 4:14:09 GMT -5
That said, if he gets hammered before a reasonable amount of time has passed, we should lynch those involved in the blitz for, well, obvious reasons. Fair enough: unvote Peeker Deadline vote peeker Lastly Pleo - the use of a DEADLINE VOTE will prevent the hammer that you fear. Deadline Vote: ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies because what do you want me to call you? Any reason you aren't taking your own advice?
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