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Post by CatInASuit on Jul 24, 2013 14:10:54 GMT -5
Another sad fateful Night, two more are no more: Doctor Foster went to Gloucester, In a shower of rain But the doctor was cut By a knife to the gut And the water was crimson stained Patricia aka Doctor Foster (Duke of York - Vanilla) has been sliced and diced. Jack alone went up the hill to fetch a pail of water Jack was struck and fell right down the well, a lamb to the slaughter. Jaade aka Jack (Duke of York - Doctor) fell down the well. Day Four will end at 8pm BST on Monday 29th July.
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Post by BillMc on Jul 24, 2013 14:35:26 GMT -5
So Jaade chose to protect someone else last night.
3. DarkCookies - claimed vote charger 8. Suburban Plankton - no claim?
6. colby - claimed vig 10. dizzymrslizzy - claimed watcher
4. meeko - mason 7. mahaloth - mason 9. BillMc - mason
colby - I presume patricia was your target? tho I am somewhat surprised you chose her. dizzy - anything to add? cookies - who did you vote charge?
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Day Four
Jul 24, 2013 14:41:00 GMT -5
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Post by dizzymrslizzy on Jul 24, 2013 14:41:00 GMT -5
So yeah not much to add.
Jaade was who I saw visiting Gnarly N1
N3 I watched Colby. No one visited Colby at all.
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Post by ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies on Jul 24, 2013 15:10:26 GMT -5
Mahaloth is vote-charged.
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Post by ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies on Jul 24, 2013 15:11:41 GMT -5
If Colby wasn't redirected, I really wish he'd taken a shot at Suburban instead.
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Post by Colby11 on Jul 24, 2013 15:22:08 GMT -5
If Colby wasn't redirected, I really wish he'd taken a shot at Suburban instead. I did kill Patricia. I was not redirected, and I am frustrated now that Patricia is town. Means I get one more shot to nail scum since Jaade is now dead.... The vote charger claim is very suspicious to me... But I think that we should focus on the task at hand. I am a little wary about the mason claim as well. Not because I don't believe that there are masons, but the fact that 3 scum in a 16 player game seems small. Really small. I hate that I have a cruise in a few days and won't be around for a week.... Gah!
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Post by Meeko on Jul 24, 2013 15:25:40 GMT -5
If Colby wasn't redirected, I really wish he'd taken a shot at Suburban instead. I did kill Patricia. I was not redirected, and I am frustrated now that Patricia is town. Means I get one more shot to nail scum since Jaade is now dead.... The vote charger claim is very suspicious to me... But I think that we should focus on the task at hand. I am a little wary about the mason claim as well. Not because I don't believe that there are masons, but the fact that 3 scum in a 16 player game seems small. Really small. I hate that I have a cruise in a few days and won't be around for a week.... Gah! We don't have a masonry or an off-board board. Does this change the "math" you are using?
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Post by BillMc on Jul 24, 2013 15:28:11 GMT -5
Mahaloth is vote-charged. Mahaloth - can you place a vote, and we can see by the count whether cookies is truthful on her power. Tho it says nothing about her alignment
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Post by Meeko on Jul 24, 2013 15:29:54 GMT -5
What so you mean I can't vote for either Texcat or Patricia?
They vote for a mason, and then don't have to explain themselves?!
Well at least I'm not in the spot of having to explain why I voted for a town Patricia at least.
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Post by BillMc on Jul 24, 2013 15:30:01 GMT -5
I am a little wary about the mason claim as well. Not because I don't believe that there are masons, but the fact that 3 scum in a 16 player game seems small. If you don't believe our claim - then there would be at least 5 scum - too many for a 16 player game. Tho I'm interested to understand how you have concluded 3 scum?
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Post by Meeko on Jul 24, 2013 15:31:23 GMT -5
Mahaloth is vote-charged. Mahaloth - can you place a vote, and we can see by the count whether cookies is truthful on her power. Tho it says nothing about her alignment Bill, Mahaloth I think we should vote as a block for here out. I don't have any forerunners for my vote right now. ( I REALLY was going to vote for Pat today.)
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Post by Meeko on Jul 24, 2013 15:34:36 GMT -5
I am a little wary about the mason claim as well. Not because I don't believe that there are masons, but the fact that 3 scum in a 16 player game seems small. If you don't believe our claim - then there would be at least 5 scum - too many for a 16 player game. Tho I'm interested to understand how you have concluded 3 scum? Because he is one. Vote: ColbyYour conversation about our fake mason claims overextends you just a bit. Cookies isn't looking to hot either.
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Post by Meeko on Jul 24, 2013 15:37:22 GMT -5
Doctor Foster went to Gloucester, In a shower of rain But the doctor was cut By a knife to the gut And the water was crimson stained Is this a "real" one? Horribly morbid. And I've never heard it before. ...........Thank god.
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Day Four
Jul 24, 2013 15:58:24 GMT -5
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Post by Jaade on Jul 24, 2013 15:58:24 GMT -5
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Post by Suburban Plankton on Jul 24, 2013 16:01:31 GMT -5
Mahaloth is vote-charged. Mahaloth - can you place a vote, and we can see by the count whether cookies is truthful on her power. Tho it says nothing about her alignment It would tell us that she's not Scum, because a Vote Charging power would be too powerful to give to Scum. But it would leave open the possibility that she's a PFK. But we may not be able to tell if Cookies was being truthful about her power anyway. It may be that the extra vote is only counted at Dusk, so we can't take its absence as evidence that Cookies is lying. The presence of the extra vote would prove her power, but it's absence proves nothing at this point. If Colby wasn't redirected, I really wish he'd taken a shot at Suburban instead. I did kill Patricia. I was not redirected, and I am frustrated now that Patricia is town. Means I get one more shot to nail scum since Jaade is now dead.... The vote charger claim is very suspicious to me... But I think that we should focus on the task at hand. I am a little wary about the mason claim as well. Not because I don't believe that there are masons, but the fact that 3 scum in a 16 player game seems small. Really small. I hate that I have a cruise in a few days and won't be around for a week.... Gah! 3 Scum in a 16 player game may seem 'too small', but I would be more concerned that 5 Scum is definitely 'too big'. I haven't been extremely fond of the way our Masons have played the game so far, especially Yesterday, but at this point I think that they are as cleared as it's possible to be without being dead.
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Post by Suburban Plankton on Jul 24, 2013 16:07:44 GMT -5
If you don't believe our claim - then there would be at least 5 scum - too many for a 16 player game. Tho I'm interested to understand how you have concluded 3 scum? Because he is one. Vote: ColbyYour conversation about our fake mason claims overextends you just a bit. Cookies isn't looking to hot either. I missed the significance of Colby saying "3 Scum" in my first read. But if Colby is Scum, that means that either the Scum have had 2 kills every Night, or someone else in this game is a Killer (and from their silence, almost certainly a PFK).
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Post by Colby11 on Jul 24, 2013 16:38:57 GMT -5
I am a little wary about the mason claim as well. Not because I don't believe that there are masons, but the fact that 3 scum in a 16 player game seems small. If you don't believe our claim - then there would be at least 5 scum - too many for a 16 player game. Tho I'm interested to understand how you have concluded 3 scum? If all three of the masons are town, that leaves me (town Vig), dizzy (watcher), along with supercharger Cookies and Plankton. For there to be 4 scum, that means dizzy, cookies, and plankton all have to be scum. We have only one scum death (if memory serves me right) and that was Pizzaguy. Oh wait, I forgot Texcat.... Knew something was off for some reason. Right now, I'm gonna vote for Cookies, simply because I don't believe the claim Vote: Cookies
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Post by Colby11 on Jul 24, 2013 16:40:59 GMT -5
Sue me for forgetting about Texcat's lynch and her being scum.
That said, cookies, dizzy, and plankton are on my list
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Post by Suburban Plankton on Jul 24, 2013 16:53:02 GMT -5
Sue me for forgetting about Texcat's lynch and her being scum. That said, cookies, dizzy, and plankton are on my list So let me see if I have this straight. In this game, we have You 3 Masons 3 'others' You say that you're suspicious of the 3 'others'. That's definitely some unassailable logic there...
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Post by ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies on Jul 24, 2013 17:40:24 GMT -5
Vote Suburban[/color] Suburban is a clear lynch choice over me at this point, folks. His anti-Town history may not been as blatant as Texcat's, but it is there to be seen in his voting record and the cases he has advanced. Every once in a while he chimes in with something seeming perfectly level headed and reasonable, but when it comes to where the rubber meets the road, he has taken his jabs at Townies in building cases or making votes. In contrast, the only thing I've said or done that may have contributed indirectly to the death of a Townie was stating that I was inclined to believe Pizza's cop claim over Gnarly's at the time that everyone else decided to flip that coin. My stronger opinion (to wait) and my vote remained elsewhere. On Suburban, where my vote is now returning. I've poked at Meeko certainly, but that was is and will apparently continue to be frustration. I've really wanted to vote-charge him from quite early in the game, but not while he's voting for me and pontificationg I'm scum all of the time with his misguided fixation. I've used my power successfully and in the Town's best interest at every opportunity I've had. Whether my vote-charing selections make sense to you or not, I don't really have control. I've correctly read Town players that others have lynched and/or doubted. I've correctly read a scum under cover. These are not marks against my character. The only lynch cases that can be built against me involve spinning things that do exist (a demonstrable record of not having Town blood on my hands) as circumstantial evidence that I'm scum. Or spinning things that do not yet exist (a confirmable indication of my power) as circumstantial evidence that I'm scum. Colby: Are you really going to base your vote on whether or not you believe a role is in a game or not? No consideration for game content? Voting record? Cases advanced? I have no idea if my charged votes will show up in all Mod vote counts, or just the final official account of the day. It may be Dusk before we know the answer to that question. Aside from not wanting to get lynched for playing a solid Townie game, the only fear niggling around in the back of my head is that I'm wrong about Suburban and Dizzy has been hiding in plain sight playing the Scummy watcher quite well. That goes back to a comment awhile back where she said she didn't like my play very much, which (once we all have a chance to look at things in hindsight and y'all can see that I've been truthful) will really beg some questions about what it takes to please a Townie Dizzy when it comes to pro-towniness, content, participation, and play style. I don't really care what would please a Scummy Dizzy And if we're tossing in opinions on 3rd parties, I don't think we have any.
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Day Four
Jul 24, 2013 18:52:45 GMT -5
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Post by dizzymrslizzy on Jul 24, 2013 18:52:45 GMT -5
I think as we reach end game we need to take a deep look at Colby and decide whether we think he is a PFK SK or a town Vig. If he is a SK then we need to take care of him first.
After that I think the remaining scum is between suburban and cookies... I think it's time for Suburban to reveal his role for us as well.
This should be an open and shut case we have the numbers to finish it off with at least 4 town vs 1-2 scum and 1 'other' at worse case scenario. To 6 town to 1 scum best case
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Jul 24, 2013 18:55:33 GMT -5
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Post by dizzymrslizzy on Jul 24, 2013 18:55:33 GMT -5
Sue me for forgetting about Texcat's lynch and her being scum. That said, cookies, dizzy, and plankton are on my list Well duh Sherlock. From my POV you cookies and suburban are on my list.... With 3 confirmed masons it's hard to point a general finger anywhere else
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Post by Mahaloth on Jul 24, 2013 19:16:40 GMT -5
Vote Colby
I'm testing my vote charged ability.
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Post by ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies on Jul 24, 2013 19:41:21 GMT -5
On the chance I am being too hasty about dismissing the possibility of a third party, some of Colby's choices have been suspect, especially if he is not mandatory. If he's win-stealing 3rd party, then he's got enough of a body count to be worrisome. I think Colby is much more likely to be 3rd party than Dizzy, and I'd be willing to lynch him instead of Suburban if that is where the consensus leans.
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Post by Colby11 on Jul 24, 2013 23:45:10 GMT -5
I'll post my PM if you guys would like me to
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Post by BillMc on Jul 25, 2013 2:13:37 GMT -5
Can we have a vote counte please?
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Post by CatInASuit on Jul 25, 2013 7:37:02 GMT -5
Day 4 Vote Count:
Colby(3): meeko (#11), mahaloth (#22)
Cookies(1): colby (#16) Suburban Plankton(1): cookies (#19)
With these votes, as of post 25, Colby will be lynched
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Post by Suburban Plankton on Jul 25, 2013 9:49:10 GMT -5
I did kill Patricia. I was not redirected, and I am frustrated now that Patricia is town. Means I get one more shot to nail scum since Jaade is now dead....The vote charger claim is very suspicious to me... But I think that we should focus on the task at hand. I am a little wary about the mason claim as well. Not because I don't believe that there are masons, but the fact that 3 scum in a 16 player game seems small. Really small. I hate that I have a cruise in a few days and won't be around for a week.... Gah! <emphasis mine>I'm having trouble understanding the highlighted sentence here. The phrasing seems rather odd to me...it reads as if you're saying "Now that we know Jaade won't be protecting the Scum anymore, maybe I can kill them". I don't see where Jaade was stopping you from killing anyone so far. You've successfully hit your target every Night, haven't you? Why does Jaade's death mean anything at all to you with regards to "nailing Scum"?
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Post by Suburban Plankton on Jul 25, 2013 10:03:20 GMT -5
I think as we reach end game we need to take a deep look at Colby and decide whether we think he is a PFK SK or a town Vig. If he is a SK then we need to take care of him first. After that I think the remaining scum is between suburban and cookies... I think it's time for Suburban to reveal his role for us as well. Why should I reveal my role now? I have nothing useful to share at this point; no information which will benefit the Town. I think it's of more value to leave the Scum guessing as to what, if anything, my power is Regarding Colby: I am of the school that believes that town can't afford to let a claimed but unverified Vigilante survive until end-game, lest they wind up losing to a Serial Killer (props to mlerose, if she's reading along!). But I don't know if we're at that point yet with regards to Colby. We still have our Masonry alive and complete. As long as there are 3 'confirmed' Townies, we're not in too much danger. Of course, if we mislynch Today, we may not have 3 'confirmed' Townies come morning. The gravity of our situation I think depends quite a bit on whether there are two Scum left or only one. Also, whether Colby, should he not by lynched Today, decides to kill one of the Masons in order to prove or disprove their claim. If all goes 'well', this game could be over by Morning (or possibly by Night if the stars really align, but I'm not counting on that). If things go 'poorly', we could be looking at Day 5 starting with 2 Scum, a Serial Killer, and a lone remaining Mason.
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Post by Colby11 on Jul 25, 2013 11:57:12 GMT -5
I did kill Patricia. I was not redirected, and I am frustrated now that Patricia is town. Means I get one more shot to nail scum since Jaade is now dead....The vote charger claim is very suspicious to me... But I think that we should focus on the task at hand. I am a little wary about the mason claim as well. Not because I don't believe that there are masons, but the fact that 3 scum in a 16 player game seems small. Really small. I hate that I have a cruise in a few days and won't be around for a week.... Gah! <emphasis mine>I'm having trouble understanding the highlighted sentence here. The phrasing seems rather odd to me...it reads as if you're saying "Now that we know Jaade won't be protecting the Scum anymore, maybe I can kill them". I don't see where Jaade was stopping you from killing anyone so far. You've successfully hit your target every Night, haven't you? Why does Jaade's death mean anything at all to you with regards to "nailing Scum"? Means that I was afraid that I was the person that was going to be killed last night.
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