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Post by ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies on Aug 21, 2013 11:54:54 GMT -5
It wasn't a joke vote. I just happened to tell a joke while voting. I'm complex like that. I, like others have said, will vote where I please and not just because someone is or isn't who anyone else considers a 'real' lynch candidate. Yes, just as I am free to vote you for it. What is scummy about not voting for a lynch leader? Especially in a field where "lynch leaders" are separated from "non-lynch-leaders" by a single vote? You want me to comment on all of the crappy cases made against the "lynch leaders" on Day 1? Would that make you feel better? It is Day 1. All the justifications are going to be crappy. Take Meeko's vote as a prime example. I joked with him based on the previous game in the Night 0 thread, suggesting that he vote for me and get it out of his system. His vote for me was justified with "because she asked me to". And that vote is now the difference between me not being a lynch leader or not. All I see to put my finger on at the moment is anti-town play, of which swammer is the most egregiously guilty at this time, imho. The posting style is distracting. I'm not inclined to read his posts or try to communicate with him about his posts. Scum don't have a corner on the market of anti-town play, but show me any Day 1 case that stands up as demonstrable scum-hunting (without the benefit of hindsight).
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Post by Pleonast on Aug 21, 2013 11:55:47 GMT -5
KidV has disappeared because I'm fucking flabbergasted at the votes I'm drawing. I'm used to Septimus/Swammerdami being a little unhinged, but I'm amazed that anybody can look at his interaction with me and decide that I'm the one that looks scummy enough to vote for. Anyway, I can't defend against "ooh that seems weird", and every time I try I draw another vote from somebody else, so fuck it. I'm done. If I happen to still be alive Day Two, great, I'm come play then. But screw SD for holding such a retarded grudge, screw the rest of you lazy voters that piled on, and the screw any of the rest of you that haven't called them out for shitty voting (at least one of you made a halfhearted attempt at it, so unscrew you, whoever you are). You're not responding to my complaint at all. Why haven't you voted and made a case that someone should be lynched? I have two ill-thought votes on me, and yet I still manage to keep voting and discussing things.
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Post by Pleonast on Aug 21, 2013 11:58:57 GMT -5
I find it interesting that you felt that you needed to restate both the haiku and jester comments, and in light of your prior "please communicate with me" and the "completely confused" comment, your play just seems "off" Vote: ColbyAre you voting Colby because you think they're a Jester or because you think they're scum trying to plant the Jester meme on another player? Since Bill seems to have missed by question the first time, I'll point it out again.
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Post by Colby11 on Aug 21, 2013 12:43:45 GMT -5
I am having second thoughts about voting him just for posting in haiku. Doesn't seem like a good enough reasoning, and it smells fishy. With votes all over the place, it's apparent that no one knows who to vote for.... Obviously I need to vote for someone pretty quick, since EOD is soon, I think.... I'm not actually disagreeing with you, I just wanted to know why you first wanted to vote for him but don't like the votes on him, that's all. I just find it annoying that he wants to post like that. I was going to take my vote off Texcat but now she has a one off on Mahaloth for "bandwagoning" on a bad vote. I think that was quite a cheeky thing for her to say after her vote on Peeks. I do wish he had shown up though because I am also getting a bit tired of the lynch the loud and let the lurkers slip by. Not only is lurking bad for Town, it is bad for the game as a whole, can you imagine if all the talkers have been lynched and NK'd and no one speaks for days on end. I don't hate the votes on him. I am just worried that he has a alternative motive for posting in his haiku format other than just being less talkative.... I do find it slightly annoying, but not really.
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Post by scáthach on Aug 21, 2013 13:12:51 GMT -5
Yes, just as I am free to vote you for it. What is scummy about not voting for a lynch leader? Especially in a field where "lynch leaders" are separated from "non-lynch-leaders" by a single vote? You want me to comment on all of the crappy cases made against the "lynch leaders" on Day 1? Would that make you feel better? It is Day 1. All the justifications are going to be crappy. Actually I was just amused by the irony of me voting you for what I thought was a weird vote, and then you replying to say that you can vote for whoever you want to but also heavily implying my vote for you is stupid. AAaaaanyway, yeah you're right, it's D1, cases tend to be crap. But you're not even trying to make a case however stupid it might be. And up to now you were avoiding commenting on any other peoples cases too. So I voted you for what I felt was a mildly scummy "wait and see" attitude. I admit, crappy case, but that's all I know how to do. And at least it gives people something to reply to if nothing else :/ KidV has disappeared because I'm fucking flabbergasted at the votes I'm drawing. I'm used to Septimus/Swammerdami being a little unhinged, but I'm amazed that anybody can look at his interaction with me and decide that I'm the one that looks scummy enough to vote for. Anyway, I can't defend against "ooh that seems weird", and every time I try I draw another vote from somebody else, so fuck it. I'm done. If I happen to still be alive Day Two, great, I'm come play then. But screw SD for holding such a retarded grudge, screw the rest of you lazy voters that piled on, and the screw any of the rest of you that haven't called them out for shitty voting (at least one of you made a halfhearted attempt at it, so unscrew you, whoever you are). Ok seriously, what is up with people getting annoyed at being voted.
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Post by Silver Jan on Aug 21, 2013 13:16:02 GMT -5
Hey there! I'll keep it short: I'm trying to gathers players from many different sites to play together in a game of mafia reserved only for the best of the best players. So far more than 10 sites are participating in this project. I stumbled upon this mafia community and it looks really cool, so I was hoping you guys would be interested in participating as well. So I was curious to know if you could help me find out who the consensus top players are on this site? If you could give me a top 3 or something of people who are widely considered to be the best players, that'd be really awesome. If you're amongst this group yourself, don't be too modest to say so Any help is greatly appreciated Thanks in advance Kind regards, Thingyman Read more: idlemafia.com/conversation/48906?page=1&scrollTo=49040#ixzz2cd2lrMSoAnyone else got this, is anyone interested. I just said I would put it out there cos I am sooooo not one of the top players. If it's just spam then tell me.
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Post by Silver Jan on Aug 21, 2013 13:16:31 GMT -5
It didn't do quote tags
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Post by Silver Jan on Aug 21, 2013 13:18:26 GMT -5
It didn't do quote tags Because I didn't quote it silly me
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Post by Silver Jan on Aug 21, 2013 13:25:33 GMT -5
KidV has disappeared because I'm fucking flabbergasted at the votes I'm drawing. I'm used to Septimus/Swammerdami being a little unhinged, but I'm amazed that anybody can look at his interaction with me and decide that I'm the one that looks scummy enough to vote for. Anyway, I can't defend against "ooh that seems weird", and every time I try I draw another vote from somebody else, so fuck it. I'm done. If I happen to still be alive Day Two, great, I'm come play then. But screw SD for holding such a retarded grudge, screw the rest of you lazy voters that piled on, and the screw any of the rest of you that haven't called them out for shitty voting (at least one of you made a halfhearted attempt at it, so unscrew you, whoever you are). Why the bad temper? I usually don't last past D2 and you aren't in the lead, I think it's a tie. I haven't voted for you BTW but your post makes me very uncomfortable but also makes me think you could be Town. Why don't YOU call them out for shitty voting and we might have something to say about it.
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Post by Colby11 on Aug 21, 2013 13:28:35 GMT -5
SJ- I got it too.
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Post by BillMc on Aug 21, 2013 13:35:44 GMT -5
Are you voting Colby because you think they're a Jester or because you think they're scum trying to plant the Jester meme on another player? Since Bill seems to have missed by question the first time, I'll point it out again. Missed your question? I've only just seen your post from yesterday with the question. You seem rather tetchy. He is behaving strangely - his "please communicate with me", his repetitive comments, his oh i am confused, and now this: But not so long ago you wanted to vote for him because of his posting style and now you don't like the case against him. Well, which is it? I am having second thoughts about voting him just for posting in haiku. Doesn't seem like a good enough reasoning, and it smells fishy. With votes all over the place, it's apparent that no one knows who to vote for.... Obviously I need to vote for someone pretty quick, since EOD is soon, I think....
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Post by Silver Jan on Aug 21, 2013 14:24:06 GMT -5
So what do we do about it I was going to smile but those bunnies just freak me out
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Post by Colby11 on Aug 22, 2013 1:30:49 GMT -5
So what do we do about it I was going to smile but those bunnies just freak me out I'll send a reply to him, just to humor him. But not until Night 1
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Post by Colby11 on Aug 22, 2013 1:36:20 GMT -5
I always have a hard time with a first day vote - I have just reread the whole thread and the only small thing I see as scummy is TexCat vote on Peek - which she has now changed to Jan. I see both of her votes to be on experienced players so that may be a scum idea to vote off the best players today as town has no information so they can take that advantage to lynch a player that may see them for what they are given the time to do so. Yeah, that still all I got Vote: texcat Hmmm. I'm not sure who voted for Jan, but my vote is still on peeker. I don't like this vote, but even more I don't like mahaloth' s bandwagon of this vote. He's been around and posting, but didn't vote until there was some pressure to do so. And then he bandwagoned a bad vote. Unvote: peeker Vote: mahaloth Even though I kinda suspect Texcat, she makes a lot of sense about Mahaloth's vote, I agree with their case. Vote: Mahaloth
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Post by KidV on Aug 22, 2013 5:55:10 GMT -5
Swammerdammi's posts seem designed explicitly to obfuscate. I don't buy for a second that he thinks posting in Haiku is some sort of solution to the problem that nobody listens to him, and I wonder if he's really doing that to avoid showing scumtells. It's really no different than LIPS, and I'll definitely be voting for him if he keeps it up.
BillMCs infrequent posting is problematic. It's not a scumtell, he travels for work and goes days without posting. But it presents an issue, because he's not here posting so that he can be evaluated. If he were scum, it'd be very hard for us to smell him out, and if I remember right he did get a scum win in a recent game on the Geeb, and nobody had a line on him because he only posted once or twice a Day. So while his lurking may be involuntary, it's still lurking, and it's anti-Town. It would be great if Bill would post more.
Where's Peeker?
Texcat, I wouldn't call Patricia's vote on you scummy. Are you voting for her because you think she's scum, or are you voting for her because you think her vote is silly?
And on that note, Vote: Colby11 , for bandwagoning a bad vote that was placed for bandwagoning a bad vote.
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Post by texcat on Aug 22, 2013 7:11:30 GMT -5
Swammerdammi's posts seem designed explicitly to obfuscate. I don't buy for a second that he thinks posting in Haiku is some sort of solution to the problem that nobody listens to him, and I wonder if he's really doing that to avoid showing scumtells. It's really no different than LIPS, and I'll definitely be voting for him if he keeps it up. BillMCs infrequent posting is problematic. It's not a scumtell, he travels for work and goes days without posting. But it presents an issue, because he's not here posting so that he can be evaluated. If he were scum, it'd be very hard for us to smell him out, and if I remember right he did get a scum win in a recent game on the Geeb, and nobody had a line on him because he only posted once or twice a Day. So while his lurking may be involuntary, it's still lurking, and it's anti-Town. It would be great if Bill would post more. Where's Peeker? Texcat, I wouldn't call Patricia's vote on you scummy. Are you voting for her because you think she's scum, or are you voting for her because you think her vote is silly? And on that note, Vote: Colby11 , for bandwagoning a bad vote that was placed for bandwagoning a bad vote. Skim much? First, I am not voting for Patricia. I don't like her vote. I did not like all her misinformation about my votes, anymore than I like yours. I did not call it scummy and I am not voting for her, but I must admit I find it suspicious that she admitted that she was wrong, but didn't move her vote. Patricia had some cocklebrained theory that I am trying to lynch strong players based on my votes of peeker and Jan. The theory has numerous problems. The first is that it is based on lies. I never voted for Jan. At the time of Patricia's post, my one vote was on peeker. The second problem is that the theory would make no sense even if it were based in fact. If I were trying to get strong players lynched, why would I have a one-off vote that virtually no one agreed with? That hardly seems likely to lynch someone. Second, I am voting Mahaloth. Please go back to the previous page and READ posts 124 by Patricia and 125 by Mahaloth. I do find it scummy that Mahaloth blandly just agrees with Patricia's theory and bandwagons her vote. Even later when I pointed out that most of what Patricia said was false, not true, lies, Mahaloth just said he agreed with her and wasn't bandwagoning. I asked, but have no idea what part of her halfbaked theory or falsehoods he agrees with. Third, I don't understand your vote. I don't think Colby is bandwagoning a bad vote. I think he is agreeing with a good vote.
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Post by Pleonast on Aug 22, 2013 9:13:04 GMT -5
unvote KidV for coming back and making a case with a vote. Going back over the votes and cases, I think this one stands out as the most suspicious. I always have a hard time with a first day vote - I have just reread the whole thread and the only small thing I see as scummy is TexCat vote on Peek - which she has now changed to Jan. I see both of her votes to be on experienced players so that may be a scum idea to vote off the best players today as town has no information so they can take that advantage to lynch a player that may see them for what they are given the time to do so. Yeah, that still all I got Vote: texcat 1. I'm getting tired of the whole "it's so hard to decide on Day One" thing. It always strikes me as a way to defend a vote in case the person turns out to be town. 2. However, I agree with your main point about texcat and, with no qualifying how hard this is on Day One, I'll vote the same as you for now. vote texcat patricia's vote is a poor. Not quite poor enough to deserve a vote. But then Mahaloth does this wishy-washy "I don't really agree, but I'm going to follow your vote" vote, thus getting a vote down and trying to put distance from it at the same time. That's scummy. vote Mahaloth for am ill-thought wishy-washy vote.
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Post by storyteller0910 on Aug 22, 2013 9:45:07 GMT -5
VOTE COUNT – DAY ONE (THURSDAY) …Cookies (3) – Meeko, gnarlycharly, scathach Texcat (3) – silverjan, patricia, mahaloth Mahaloth (3) – texcat, Colby11, Pleonast Colby11 (3) – BillMc, Sister Coyote, KidVermicious KidVermicious (2) – FruitandGarbage, swammerdami Pleonast (2) – dizzymrslizzy, Jaade Paranoia (1) – abstain Meeko (1) – Paranoia Swammerdami (1) - …Cookies
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Day will end at 2:00PM Eastern today (Thursday, August 22), or in about three hours.
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Post by Silver Jan on Aug 22, 2013 10:30:47 GMT -5
Swammerdammi's posts seem designed explicitly to obfuscate. I don't buy for a second that he thinks posting in Haiku is some sort of solution to the problem that nobody listens to him, and I wonder if he's really doing that to avoid showing scumtells. It's really no different than LIPS, and I'll definitely be voting for him if he keeps it up. BillMCs infrequent posting is problematic. It's not a scumtell, he travels for work and goes days without posting. But it presents an issue, because he's not here posting so that he can be evaluated. If he were scum, it'd be very hard for us to smell him out, and if I remember right he did get a scum win in a recent game on the Geeb, and nobody had a line on him because he only posted once or twice a Day. So while his lurking may be involuntary, it's still lurking, and it's anti-Town. It would be great if Bill would post more. Where's Peeker? Texcat, I wouldn't call Patricia's vote on you scummy. Are you voting for her because you think she's scum, or are you voting for her because you think her vote is silly? And on that note, Vote: Colby11 , for bandwagoning a bad vote that was placed for bandwagoning a bad vote. Skim much? First, I am not voting for Patricia. I don't like her vote. I did not like all her misinformation about my votes, anymore than I like yours. I did not call it scummy and I am not voting for her, but I must admit I find it suspicious that she admitted that she was wrong, but didn't move her vote. Patricia had some cocklebrained theory that I am trying to lynch strong players based on my votes of peeker and Jan. The theory has numerous problems. The first is that it is based on lies. I never voted for Jan. At the time of Patricia's post, my one vote was on peeker. The second problem is that the theory would make no sense even if it were based in fact. If I were trying to get strong players lynched, why would I have a one-off vote that virtually no one agreed with? That hardly seems likely to lynch someone. Second, I am voting Mahaloth. Please go back to the previous page and READ posts 124 by Patricia and 125 by Mahaloth. I do find it scummy that Mahaloth blandly just agrees with Patricia's theory and bandwagons her vote. Even later when I pointed out that most of what Patricia said was false, not true, lies, Mahaloth just said he agreed with her and wasn't bandwagoning. I asked, but have no idea what part of her halfbaked theory or falsehoods he agrees with. Third, I don't understand your vote. I don't think Colby is bandwagoning a bad vote. I think he is agreeing with a good vote. You know what, I actually agree with you. Patricia voted for reasons that weren't reasons and Mahaloth just agreed with her, very strange. Unvote: Texcat Vote: MahalothI wonder why players are misreading what Texcat says and who she votes for. I am beginning to think she could be Town.
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Post by Pleonast on Aug 22, 2013 11:54:16 GMT -5
No matter how the lynch turns out, it'll be interesting analyzing the votes.
"Rotcod, rorrim a esu."
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Post by dizzymrslizzy on Aug 22, 2013 12:31:42 GMT -5
Unvote: Pleonast Sorry I didn't make it back before now to pull my vote on you. I didn't like your vote on Bill, but I think you guys have a better case here.
Vote: Mahaloth
I can half forgive Patricia, and that she misremembered who voted for Jan.... But Mahaloth's vote on Texcat was based off a "wrong" post. Then when questioned on it and if getting the corrected information changed his mind he continued to agree with Patricia's post without committing to what exactly he felt was scummy about Texcat?
I don't really get the Texcat votes.
I'm also pinged by KidVid today as well, but not enough to place my vote there today.
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Post by storyteller0910 on Aug 22, 2013 12:45:21 GMT -5
Day ends in fifteen minutes; Mahaloth, with five votes, is currently the lynch leader.
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Post by Silver Jan on Aug 22, 2013 13:12:59 GMT -5
Unvote: Pleonast Sorry I didn't make it back before now to pull my vote on you. I didn't like your vote on Bill, but I think you guys have a better case here. Vote: MahalothI can half forgive Patricia, and that she misremembered who voted for Jan.... But Mahaloth's vote on Texcat was based off a "wrong" post. Then when questioned on it and if getting the corrected information changed his mind he continued to agree with Patricia's post without committing to what exactly he felt was scummy about Texcat? I don't really get the Texcat votes. I'm also pinged by KidVid today as well, but not enough to place my vote there today. Are you skimming too, I haven't got a vote
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Post by dizzymrslizzy on Aug 22, 2013 13:27:18 GMT -5
No I was commenting on Patricia's mistake, not what actually happened.
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Post by storyteller0910 on Aug 22, 2013 13:28:15 GMT -5
Day One has ended; please move active discussion into the Night One thread. Thanks! - The Mgmt
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