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Post by storyteller0910 on Sept 2, 2013 9:09:43 GMT -5
DAY THREE Coroner’s Report – September 2, 1985VICTIM 001 – African American male, approximately 50 years old. Cause of death: spinal trauma, likely the result of a long fall. Personal effects include a notebook, ball point pen, glasses, and blood-stained Craftsman claw hammer. Additional wounds to hands and arms suggesting recent physical conflict, though it is not clear whether these wounds were sustained in the same conflict as the one that resulted in death. Notebook, which is mostly filled with writings on the subject of recently deceased vigilante Rorschach, has been forwarded to psychiatric… VICTIM 002 – Caucasian male, approximately 75 years old. Found at home with multiple blunt force traumas to head and upper body. Initial examination suggests that victim was in excellent physical condition in spite of advanced age. Multiple scars and contusions, including evident bullet wound, long healed – likely sustained twenty or thirty years ago. Autopsy revealed a very small electronic device implanted in lower spine; no entry wound discovered, and it does not appear that implantation occurred within the last 12 hours. Device appears to have been recently deactivated; the purpose of the device is beyond my capacity to.... ---- Silver Jan, who was Dr. Malcolm Long (Town), a Backup Vigilante, has been killed.In addition: Colby11, who was Hollis Mason (Third Party), Universal Backup, is no longer. An inexplicable device was found on his corpse. Finally: Meeko is no longer jailed. He is now eligible for lynchings, Night actions, etc, the same as any other player. Day Three begins here and will end at 2:00PM Eastern on Friday, September 6.
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Post by dizzymrslizzy on Sept 2, 2013 9:58:12 GMT -5
Not good. They found our other vig! *sigh*
Pleo any new information.
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Post by Colby11 on Sept 2, 2013 10:56:41 GMT -5
Well darn...
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Post by Mahaloth on Sept 2, 2013 11:13:43 GMT -5
Ouch. That hurts.
Wait, I'm on the other team. Yay!
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Post by Sister Coyote on Sept 2, 2013 11:51:55 GMT -5
/me chases the ghost out of the thread.
Also, just F everyone who hasn't read Watchmen's I: Hollis Mason was, IIRC, NightOwl the First.
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Post by Sister Coyote on Sept 2, 2013 11:52:24 GMT -5
Not good. They found our other vig! *sigh* Pleo any new information. We may not hear from Pleo until tomorrow (Tuesday).
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Post by texcat on Sept 2, 2013 12:47:43 GMT -5
I'm guessing that SilverJan, being the closest thing that we had to a confirmed town, was the scum target, and that Colby was SilverJan's target.
Vote: peeker sinjin Cause that's how I like to start the Day. Unvote: Vote: Meeko Cause being told I can't do something Yesterday just makes me want to do it. Unvote: Vote: Cookies Cause if I vote Meeko, it only seems fair that I vote Cookies. Unvote: Vote: Patricia Cause I think she's scum.
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Post by ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies on Sept 2, 2013 12:54:16 GMT -5
Ok Night smearers, let's hear some specifics to go with the usual, tired 'Cookies is scummy'. Some unfinished business with scathach: I stated that I was traveling here: Sometimes. But if the lynch comes down to a scum or third party things change. [oog] I am traveling today and it kinda started on Friday already. May be not as talkative till next Mon.[/oog] You start advancing the opinion that I'm avoiding things here: This made me laugh. It is actually and legitimately hard to decide on Day One in the vast majority of games. I get how people stating the obvious can be annoying. But getting annoyed at people who are stating something that is true and letting that annoyance influence your analysis regarding those who annoy you...is funny. And I know it is funny, because there is a little bit of honesty in the best comedy, because I'm going to Vote Swammer because the haikus are an annoying distraction.
10 posts today, most of them about metagame and rules clarifications. And then you avoid talking about any of the real lynch candidates to place a joke(?) vote on swammerdami for his posting style? Explicitly his posting style too, not even that you think it makes him scummy, just that you find it annoying. Unvote: KidV Vote: Cometothedarksidewehavecookies I said that swammer was posting in an annoying and distracting manner, and aside from yourself and swammer, I don't think anyone else had a problem with that as a reason to vote for him. Distraction can be a handy strategy for scum. Exhibit A i.cdn.turner.com/si/multimedia/photo_gallery/1202/free.throw.distraction/images/utah.jpg Do I know that was what he's been doing and why? No. Do I suspect that is what he's been doing and why? Yes. And I voted accordingly. The 'Cookies is avoiding things' stuff continues here: What is scummy about not voting for a lynch leader? Especially in a field where "lynch leaders" are separated from "non-lynch-leaders" by a single vote? You want me to comment on all of the crappy cases made against the "lynch leaders" on Day 1? Would that make you feel better? It is Day 1. All the justifications are going to be crappy. Actually I was just amused by the irony of me voting you for what I thought was a weird vote, and then you replying to say that you can vote for whoever you want to but also heavily implying my vote for you is stupid. AAaaaanyway, yeah you're right, it's D1, cases tend to be crap. But you're not even trying to make a case however stupid it might be. And up to now you were avoiding commenting on any other peoples cases too. So I voted you for what I felt was a mildly scummy "wait and see" attitude. I admit, crappy case, but that's all I know how to do. And at least it gives people something to reply to if nothing else :/ So to be clear, I have not been avoiding anything and avoiding is a loaded term in this game. It implies manipulations and agendas. I want to be clear that I'm not taking this personally like "How DARE you accuse me of lying about traveling for business to the sweaty armpit that is Charleston SC in August!" but rather I see it as perhaps opportunism of trying to spin lower posting volume as something more nefarious. Maybe it is a posting style thing, but I use a lot of qualifiers when I state my suspicions in this game. Alleged. Perhaps. Maybe. Seems. Short of circumstances where I have perfect information, you'd not see me making subjective statements as if they are fact. When I see what could only be a subjective statement stated as if it were a fact it catches my eye, as either a sign of someone who has perfect information or, when I know the judgement is wrong because it is about me, as a sign of either confirmation bias from a misguided Townie or scummy sabotage. Since I know you have no perfect information that would lead you to believe that I have been strategically avoiding anything, we're down to Townie confirmation bias or Scummy sabotage.
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Post by dizzymrslizzy on Sept 2, 2013 16:39:31 GMT -5
Tex maybe I missed it but how was jan confirmed??
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Post by ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies on Sept 2, 2013 17:57:03 GMT -5
Texcat didn't say that Jan was confirmed, but rather the "closest thing we had to a confirmed townie". Jan gained a fair bit of Townie cred by being instrumental and early in Mahaloth's lynch. Some of your posts sure sounded to me like you were wanting to cash in on some cred for pushing the Mahaloth lynch too, Dizzy, so I'm kind of surprised you're asking.
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Post by dizzymrslizzy on Sept 2, 2013 20:00:09 GMT -5
I've been away for most of the last week, and have been playing by phone, so I was wondering if I missed a claim, or something along the way.
And you misread my posts, which if you go back over the days that YOU were missing from the game, I explained my POV.
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Post by sinjin on Sept 2, 2013 20:45:23 GMT -5
I don't have much to say at the time being except that I was wrong about Colby11 I will be driving all day tomorrow, so don't expect anything from me til Wed.
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Post by Meeko on Sept 2, 2013 21:39:26 GMT -5
I'm guessing that SilverJan, being the closest thing that we had to a confirmed town, was the scum target, and that Colby was SilverJan's target. Vote: peeker sinjin Cause that's how I like to start the Day. Unvote: Vote: Meeko Cause being told I can't do something Yesterday just makes me want to do it. Unvote: Vote: Cookies Cause if I vote Meeko, it only seems fair that I vote Cookies. Unvote: Vote: Patricia Cause I think she's scum. What pump are you priming here, Tex?
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Post by ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies on Sept 2, 2013 22:30:15 GMT -5
I've been away for most of the last week, and have been playing by phone, so I was wondering if I missed a claim, or something along the way. And you misread my posts, which if you go back over the days that YOU were missing from the game, I explained my POV. Exactly Tex, I kind of think we had a whole cluster of a bunch of town on the line yesterday, and scum was just sitting there laughing at us, until Silver Jan and I pushed it towards Mahaloth. Otherwise why wasn't the tie broken earlier in the day. This is a rather self-serving statement. Yes, you do get a little not-scum credit for boosting Mahaloth to a two-vote lead, but really only silverjan gets a full share. Your post here feels a lot like riding their coattails. I also thought Dizzy's post seemed to be trying too hard to scream that she was Town and taking credit for something that maybe wasn't so genuine. On the other hand, I haven't gotten a scummy vibe from any of her other posts yet. Let me rephrase, because I wasn't taking credit for it at all. Silver Jan broke the tie, I added to it. That's history and ALL that I meant by it. We had a couple of players tied. I leaning on thinking that most if not all of the rest of them were Town players. Furthermore, at the end of the day....Don't you think it would have made more sense if I was Scum to vote one of the one off players up to tie Mahaloth, and hope that someone else would have broken the tie in scums favor? I think Scum losing a Godfather on D1 Lynch is a pretty big deal. I wasn't avoiding and I wasn't missing. I was not my usually loquacious self, but I was reading and participating. As for your explanation of your POV, it looks to me like you may have just scrambled to make excuses for the first post that multiple people felt was fishing for Townie cred. In a game that could have PFK roles, your furthermore doesn't necessarily apply. Scum aren't the only factions who might fish for Townie cred. And I just frankly find it hard to believe that the concept of Jan being at the top of the likely Townie consensus list is something that you would forget especially since you were a vocal part of that consensus, not to mention the whole above exchange. Texcat's phrasing was not really different than things you've said yourself about Jan. Your comment today just caught my eye, and your response seems to indicate that I may have poked a sensitive spot.
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Post by dizzymrslizzy on Sept 2, 2013 22:38:26 GMT -5
I'm not scrambling at all. Tyvm.
There's a big difference between feeling someone is town and someone being confirmed as town.
Yes I had a town feel on jan but not enough to call it a confirmation.
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Post by dizzymrslizzy on Sept 2, 2013 22:40:38 GMT -5
My question to Texcat was how did "we" as a group get from feeling that she was town to the point where she's confirmed town. I thought I had missed something that pushed her to the confirmed category. I never forgot about the vote from D1 at all.
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Post by ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies on Sept 2, 2013 23:03:44 GMT -5
I'm guessing that SilverJan, being the closest thing that we had to a confirmed town, was the scum target, and that Colby was SilverJan's target. Vote: peeker sinjin Cause that's how I like to start the Day. Unvote: Vote: Meeko Cause being told I can't do something Yesterday just makes me want to do it. Unvote: Vote: Cookies Cause if I vote Meeko, it only seems fair that I vote Cookies. Unvote: Vote: Patricia Cause I think she's scum. Texcat didn't say she was confirmed. I have no idea what is up with the voting spree, but her statement about Jan is quite clear in how it does not imply that Jan was confirmed.
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Post by Silver Jan on Sept 3, 2013 1:26:05 GMT -5
Go Town!
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Post by texcat on Sept 3, 2013 8:37:55 GMT -5
My question to Texcat was how did "we" as a group get from feeling that she was town to the point where she's confirmed town. I thought I had missed something that pushed her to the confirmed category. I never forgot about the vote from D1 at all. LOL. Yall are trying to make a mountain out of a pig's ear. Jan was certainly in the non-scum category based on her vote of Mahaloth. I can't think of anyone in this game that is closer to being confirmed town than that.
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Post by swammerdami on Sept 3, 2013 9:18:05 GMT -5
Yall are trying to make a mountain out of a pig's ear. Holy Mixed Metaphor, Batman Texcat. I was strongly leaning Town on you until this.
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Post by Meeko on Sept 3, 2013 9:43:45 GMT -5
I'm guessing that SilverJan, being the closest thing that we had to a confirmed town, was the scum target, and that Colby was SilverJan's target. Vote: peeker sinjin Cause that's how I like to start the Day. Unvote: Vote: Meeko Cause being told I can't do something Yesterday just makes me want to do it. Unvote: Vote: Cookies Cause if I vote Meeko, it only seems fair that I vote Cookies. Unvote: Vote: Patricia Cause I think she's scum. Texcat didn't say she was confirmed. I have no idea what is up with the voting spree, but her statement about Jan is quite clear in how it does not imply that Jan was confirmed. Cookies, as you are named here as well, per the vote and unvote, do you have any concerns there is an ulterior motive here?
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Post by Pleonast on Sept 3, 2013 10:57:44 GMT -5
Peeks never responded to his role PM and so did not change his alignment or utilize his power to beat a lynch or nightkill. I have not changed my alignment either, and don't plan to. I find this odd. Why would you not change your win condition to town or scum? You risk being killed and losing the game immediately. Since you can change your alignment at will, it's better to pick a side (temporarily) so you at least have a chance to win if you get killed. It is my plan to post very little tomorrow as I would like to be scanned by Pleonast it would be much better than claiming outright. That's risky, because you can't have better than a 50% chance of being investigated. And it's anti-game to intentionally not play. vote patricia for avoiding the spotlight. Note that I'm not sure what the case against you is. You're not going to convince anyone of anything if you're not here. Pleo any new information. You'll have to wait until the end of the Day to see what, if any, new information I have is.
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Post by ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies on Sept 3, 2013 11:15:14 GMT -5
Texcat didn't say she was confirmed. I have no idea what is up with the voting spree, but her statement about Jan is quite clear in how it does not imply that Jan was confirmed. Cookies, as you are named here as well, per the vote and unvote, do you have any concerns there is an ulterior motive here? I'm more concerned when people end their posts with a vote on me as opposed to apparently taking the scenic route through my neighborhood on their way to vote for someone else. I can't think of a role mechanic that would make me any more concerned than the people who Texcat didn't decide to include. It could be just a flurry of joke posts I suppose, but I really have no idea.
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Post by BillMc on Sept 3, 2013 12:32:25 GMT -5
Not good. They found our other vig! *sigh* They?
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Post by BillMc on Sept 3, 2013 12:42:10 GMT -5
Not good. They found our other vig! *sigh* neta - will try that again as most of the post got eaten by the board monster They? From "they", I would presume they=scum, and that you were in agreement with Texcat's theory that the scum skilled Jan and Jan killed Colby. But you are in disagreement about Texcat saying that Jan was as near as town confirmed. Colby had an implanted device - something to do with his role or something else? If we believe the color then the device had been deactivated. Not sure what Texact is trying with those string of vote/unvotes tho From yesterdays events, things don't look to rosy for patricia Vote: patricia
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Post by BillMc on Sept 3, 2013 12:43:07 GMT -5
Not good. They found our other vig! *sigh* And neta2 - "other vig" -- that kinda implies you knew there was another vig?
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Post by ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies on Sept 3, 2013 12:55:47 GMT -5
Wasn't Colby the second vig to end up dead?
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Post by swammerdami on Sept 3, 2013 12:59:43 GMT -5
... It looks like a foregone conclusion with KidV. I do have issue with Patricia's vote in #99 (which was invalid) - "i don't want to waste my vote, but let me make sure kidv get's lynched" putting him at 5 votes; but you fixed the vote in #133 making it 6. I think you are scum playing safe. I'd understand a scum motivation for Patricia if either KidV or abstain were Scum. But now we know KidV was Town.
From yesterdays events, things don't look to rosy for patricia Please explain this. Does it assume abstain is Scum?
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Post by Pleonast on Sept 3, 2013 13:05:11 GMT -5
From yesterdays events, things don't look to rosy for patricia Vote: patriciaPlease elaborate in more detail.
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Post by dizzymrslizzy on Sept 3, 2013 13:20:00 GMT -5
Not good. They found our other vig! *sigh* neta - will try that again as most of the post got eaten by the board monster They? From "they", I would presume they=scum, and that you were in agreement with Texcat's theory that the scum skilled Jan and Jan killed Colby. But you are in disagreement about Texcat saying that Jan was as near as town confirmed. Colby had an implanted device - something to do with his role or something else? If we believe the color then the device had been deactivated. Not sure what Texact is trying with those string of vote/unvotes tho From yesterdays events, things don't look to rosy for patricia Vote: patricia1- They = Scum Yes I'm assuming Scum killed Jan and Jan killed Colby 2- "Other" KidV = Town Vig lynched YesterDay, Jan NKed last Night 3- I'm not in disagreement on a town feel on Jan at all. I didn't understand how she got promoted to "confirmed" I get where he was coming from now.
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