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Post by BillMc on Sept 6, 2013 9:35:43 GMT -5
How do you interpret the results from your claim? Who do you think is the killer? Do you think they're scum/3rd paty/PFK/town? Given the number of 3rd parties, and that we probably have recruitment, I'm surprised there aren't more deaths - since voluntary recruitment usually means accept or die. So if recruitment has occured, then we can only assume that folk are accepting. Tho it is quite possible that Colby or even Jan was subject to a recruitment request and rejected it. Colby was listed as universal backup - we've no idea who he was backing up. Whether he was had been activated to backup kidv seems possible, tho I agree with your point that that could be too many vigs. It is possible that he was backing up gnarly and was investigating jan since she was pressuring him. So probably scum did kill jan and either colby suicided due to recruitment, or one of his visitors killed him. Colby had an implanted device - something to do with his role or something else? If we believe the color then the device had been deactivated. Given that you claim it was your device, what do you think about it being deactivated? I made that point for two reasons - one, no one had raised any questions about the device; which seemed strange; and two, to see if anyone would say they knew anything about it. With it being deactivated, there are two possibilities - someone deactivated it (which is consistent with the information I was given in my PM) - or it deactivated itself when Colby died. The interest around Colby yesterday was one of the reasons why I watched him last night, rather than the other person I bugged. Scathach--I think it's far more likely that Bill was checking to be sure he could throw shade swammer's way. I'm more inclined to think that it is you who is lying Sis; you've laid pretty low in this game and most of your contribution has been "bill isn't playing like he is usually playing". That may be true, as for once, I've actually got a whole week at home - but next week I'm back on the road with 10k miles to cover.
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Post by patricia on Sept 6, 2013 9:35:45 GMT -5
I will state, definitively, that I "visited" Colby--but on Night One. Last Night, I took no action. Bill is lying. Well either you or Bill is lying
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Post by patricia on Sept 6, 2013 9:39:12 GMT -5
The play for getting investigated is growing in my mind as a ploy by a role that can manipulate said investigation, and I just think there is an 'aw shucks' tone to patricia's play as well. I'm gonna have to Unvote: Swammer Vote: patriciaat this point. In other news, I'm going to take a leap of faith and quit my shitty job. Finally deciding to do so feels fucking fantastic. OOG - Good luck on finding a rewarding job and sometimes you just need to walk away because some things are more important than the mighty buck
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Post by abstain on Sept 6, 2013 9:39:59 GMT -5
Lol, what? Really trying everything to see if something will stick aren't you.
I never got a note, I don't know anything about it, so I'm ignoring it. However what you said could very well be PIS. We'll see what happen at the phase change of course.
Claim Patricia.
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Post by Sister Coyote on Sept 6, 2013 9:48:15 GMT -5
Can somebody more competent than me please give us a vote count?
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Post by patricia on Sept 6, 2013 9:52:16 GMT -5
Tally 3 BillMc (swammerdami, Sister Coyote, FruitAndGarbage) 3 Patricia (texcat, billmc, …cookies) 2 TexCat (Meeko, patricia) 1 Sinjin (sbstain) 1 abstain (sinjin) Now patricia, if you do not claim before the end of day, I will vote for you. You're scummy as hell, your reliance on the scan and lampshading of your lurking draw me to vote you. But I want to hear what you have to say in regards to your role, because that will likely be the only thing that saves you, if it does at all. I will bet heavily on patricia voting bill before the day is out. This just screams like you are trying to gets votes anywhere but on yourself. If I have to claim to save myself from a mislynch I will but not before. I'm not scum but I have said that already. I gave up the idea of being scanned early in the day so why bring that up again. I was a idea - it wasn't going to pan out so I ditched it. If I'm lynched today so be it but I won't stop playing the game to save getting a vote or two. And I hope you didn't bet to much on me voting for Bill because it won't happen as I don't see him a scum. Not even to save myself. I will claim if I have too but I won't vote on someone I feel is town to save myself
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Post by Meeko on Sept 6, 2013 9:57:18 GMT -5
I will state, definitively, that I "visited" Colby--but on Night One. Last Night, I took no action. Bill is lying. Well either you or Bill is lying Now, this is interesting. sister Coyotes bit, not Patricia quoting it.
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Post by abstain on Sept 6, 2013 9:58:31 GMT -5
Yes, because antagonising a third party, going after a bunch of people is the best way to not get votes. It's important because you said it and when it didn't work out the way you wanted you started to panic and jump on any lynch, like you are now.
edit: let's assume you are town. You don't know anyone else is town. Why would you save someone else over yourself who you know what alinment you are. That's silly.
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Post by texcat on Sept 6, 2013 10:01:02 GMT -5
Oh, dear. This is not what I was expecting to wake up to this morning. I confess to mostly ignoring the Swammer/BillMc debate of Today. I hate these last minute claims and feel like I will have to go back to re-read to evaluate it, and will not have time before the deadline.
I remain convinced that Patricia is the PFK Godfather and her recent nonsense about the bomb on Abstain which I suspect that she planted herself is just further feeding my confirmation bias.
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Post by swammerdami on Sept 6, 2013 10:01:10 GMT -5
Here is one of the PM's I've received from the Moderator. You have successfully deactivated a device implanted in colby11. However, he turned up dead shortly thereafter. As far as you know, neither you nor your action have anything to do with this latter development. As you can see, this does confirm part of Bill's story. However my role PM makes it clear that the agent installing these devices is not Town!There is a pro-Town motive for me not to post my role PM yet. I will do so only if it appears BillMc is not going to be Lynched, or if it appears I am to be Lynched. However, here is an excerpt (my underlining added).
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Post by BillMc on Sept 6, 2013 10:11:09 GMT -5
Where does benign = town ?
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Post by Sister Coyote on Sept 6, 2013 10:14:35 GMT -5
Where does benign = town ? You're really stretching, Bill.
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Post by abstain on Sept 6, 2013 10:51:50 GMT -5
Unvote: Sinjin Vote: BillMc
As much as I think patricia is worth a vote, it is definitely worth following up Septimus's claim.
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Post by abstain on Sept 6, 2013 10:53:35 GMT -5
Septimus, what can you deactivate? Just those devices or maybe something else that is a little more important to me.
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Post by BillMc on Sept 6, 2013 11:03:03 GMT -5
So fine, I lied, I'm a PFK Mad Bomber - and need to bug six alive people to win - pretty slim chance of that happening. The rest of the PM is accurate - as were my results.
Do with it as you wish.
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Post by patricia on Sept 6, 2013 11:09:14 GMT -5
So fine, I lied, I'm a PFK Mad Bomber - and need to bug six alive people to win - pretty slim chance of that happening. The rest of the PM is accurate - as were my results. Do with it as you wish. Why do I always fall for false claims - ugg Did you place the bomb on Abstain???
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Post by abstain on Sept 6, 2013 11:13:06 GMT -5
So fine, I lied, I'm a PFK Mad Bomber - and need to bug six alive people to win - pretty slim chance of that happening. The rest of the PM is accurate - as were my results. Do with it as you wish. Well, all you would've needed was three lucky nights yeah?
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Post by patricia on Sept 6, 2013 11:15:18 GMT -5
So it is not that Colby is dead but the fact that your device was deactivated
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Post by patricia on Sept 6, 2013 11:18:00 GMT -5
Thanks Bill - yes Abstain I'm eating my words I will now vote on Bill to save myself as I'm a doctor and more important to town than a mad bomber - hope you happy now
Unvote: Abstain Vote: BillMc
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Post by abstain on Sept 6, 2013 11:18:21 GMT -5
You may want to edit that.
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Post by Pleonast on Sept 6, 2013 11:20:44 GMT -5
Pleo I am surprised that you question my logic. Like you, I am playing for myself. I would love for town to win and plan to play for them because I, like them, don't know who anyone else is. However town frequently seems to shoot themselves in the foot (or ass). So I'm hedging my bets and hoping I live till the end with whoever. I'm basically playing as a survivor, the role I was handed. You don't need to hope. You can change your alignment at will. Why not switch to town as soon as you could, and then switch to survivor or scum if the situation changes? You're leaving to chance something you have complete control over. If my bug wasn't fooled with, then SisC or Swammi was responsible for Colby's death. Huh. On the one hand Colby got a lot of suspicion so you'd imagine that it would be a town aligned person who would target him. On the other hand, that's too many town vigs. Maybe a SK trying to lay foundation for a future town vig claim? If so, my money's on Sister C. She's been quiet which would be fairly consistent with PFK laying low, swammerdami has been making waves with a new posting style etc You waited awfully late in the day to reveal this though Bill and I think I'm leaning towards you trying to derail the lynch with a last minute claim. Vote: BillMc Huh? I have you played mafia before? Of course Bill is trying to derail their own lynch--that's the whole point of claiming/revealing info when you're the lynch leader. And you vote Bill after putting your suspicion on Sister Coyote. vote scathach for voting a townie who claimed to avoid the lynch. Here is one of the PM's I've received from the Moderator. You have successfully deactivated a device implanted in colby11. However, he turned up dead shortly thereafter. As far as you know, neither you nor your action have anything to do with this latter development. As you can see, this does confirm part of Bill's story. However my role PM makes it clear that the agent installing these devices is not Town!There is a pro-Town motive for me not to post my role PM yet. I will do so only if it appears BillMc is not going to be Lynched, or if it appears I am to be Lynched. However, here is an excerpt (my underlining added). Now, see, this is how to discredit a claim. unvote scathachvote BillMc for implanting an un-benign device. So fine, I lied, I'm a PFK Mad Bomber - and need to bug six alive people to win - pretty slim chance of that happening. The rest of the PM is accurate - as were my results. Do with it as you wish. That seems unlikely. If you only needed to bug six players to win, and could do two players per Night, you'd be foolish not simply do that. Why do I always fall for false claims - ugg Don't jump to conclusions about claims, wait for more information to come out. Time is usually on town's side. ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ Anyway my results for Night Two: " swammerdami is Professor Milton Glass, and he is Third Party."
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Post by swammerdami on Sept 6, 2013 11:20:45 GMT -5
Septimus, what can you deactivate? Just those devices or maybe something else that is a little more important to me. Just Bill's implants, I'm afraid. I'll be somewhat sorry to see him leave since that makes me essentially just Vanilla. (I doubt if there's a 2nd Implanter; I'll ask Storyteller, but I don't expect a straight answer.)Even if I could help you with your Bomb, I'm not sure I would -- you keep calling me Septimus. Don't you know that that sad Johnny Cash song is about me? And I don't even remember any abstain who knew me as septimus. You remind me of the gorgeous young woman who walked up to me in a disco a few decades ago, oohing about the great sex we once had and I couldn't even remember her name!
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Post by BillMc on Sept 6, 2013 11:22:02 GMT -5
So fine, I lied, I'm a PFK Mad Bomber - and need to bug six alive people to win - pretty slim chance of that happening. The rest of the PM is accurate - as were my results. Do with it as you wish. Why do I always fall for false claims - ugg Did you place the bomb on Abstain??? I have nothing to do with the bomb on abstain - that is from someone else. I can only assume that there is another PFK
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Post by patricia on Sept 6, 2013 11:22:45 GMT -5
You may want to edit that. Whatever you know what I mean
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Post by BillMc on Sept 6, 2013 11:23:11 GMT -5
So fine, I lied, I'm a PFK Mad Bomber - and need to bug six alive people to win - pretty slim chance of that happening. The rest of the PM is accurate - as were my results. Do with it as you wish. Well, all you would've needed was three lucky nights yeah? Nah, 6 nights - only bug one watch one a night. Hence why I had no real issue with pleo's day 6 win - it was consistent with my own - except I'd need to make it to day 7 with no one I bugged getting killed or deactivated
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Post by abstain on Sept 6, 2013 11:24:29 GMT -5
My name is only abstain here. (For fun really). I use another name on most sites. I'm also a male, so you may be viewing those years through rose tinted glasses.
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Post by abstain on Sept 6, 2013 11:25:23 GMT -5
You may want to edit that. Whatever you know what I mean No, I'm saying get rid of your claim. It is unnecessary at this point in time. Ah, makes more sense. Interesting role for a pfk.
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Post by Meeko on Sept 6, 2013 11:52:55 GMT -5
So fine, I lied, I'm a PFK Mad Bomber - and need to bug six alive people to win - pretty slim chance of that happening. The rest of the PM is accurate - as were my results. Do with it as you wish. Checking back in on the game, and well "that escalated quickly". Unvote: Texcat Vote: BillMC
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Post by BillMc on Sept 6, 2013 11:57:49 GMT -5
Just Bill's implants, I'm afraid. I'll be somewhat sorry to see him leave since that makes me essentially just Vanilla. Really - 3rd party now vanilla? So you're saying you have no personal wincon or that you have won with my demise?
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Post by BillMc on Sept 6, 2013 12:01:23 GMT -5
Interesting role for a pfk. Yeah, the investigative part was a nice twist on the mad bomber, tho like most mad bomber roles, it is very hard to win. I guess Story thought that the investigative part would add some value - but clearly any other PFK's and indeed the scum, don't want an investigator to be left alive to out them. And with Patricia claiming doc - I guess Pleo's days could be numbered as well. Tho if Pleo is actually a scum cop, then there will be no fear of him getting offed anyway. If Pleo is not announced as a winner on Day 6, then you probably should lynch him then as a matter of policy.
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