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Post by storyteller0910 on Sept 6, 2013 13:36:24 GMT -5
Hail and farewell, Adrian Veidt.
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BillMc, who was Ozymandias and a PFK of the Mad Bomber subtype, has been lynched.
Night Three begins now and will end on Sunday, September 8 at 6:00PM.
Sorry for the brevity, work is impossible.
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Post by Pleonast on Sept 6, 2013 13:58:35 GMT -5
ToNight I will investigate one of Paranoia or Jaade.
Also, here is an updated players list.
1. Sister Coyote 2. FruitandGarbage 3. BillMc - Ozymandias, PFK, Lynched Day Three 4. Paranoia 5. gnarlycharly - Dan Dreiberg (Nite Owl II), Third Party, Killed Night One 6. Jaade 7. peekercpa/sinjin - The Comedian, Third Party 8. ...cookies 9. Mahaloth - Dr. Manhattan (Jon Osterman), Scum, Lynched Day One 10. Meeko 11. texcat 12. colby11 - Hollis Mason, Third Party, Killed Night Two 13. Pleonast - Doug Roth, Third Party 14. scathach 15. dizzymrslizzy 16. abstain 17. KidVermicious - Rorschach, Town, Lynched Day Two 18. patricia 19. silverjan - Dr. Malcolm Long, Town, Killed Night Two 20. swammerdami - Professor Milton Glass, Third Party
We have 6 dead players: 2 dead town, 2 3rd-party, 1 dead scum, 1 dead PFK. And 14 living players: 0 known town, 3 known 3rd-party, 0 known scum, 0 known PFK, and 11 unknown players.
I'm guessing town needs to lynch 3 more scum/PFKs in order to win. Assuming scum make a kill ToNight, that'll be 10 town/3rd vs 3 scum/PFK on Day Four. That makes 3.5 mislynches possible before town loses.
Summary: town vs scum is at about the same position as the start of the game. Only one mislynch, but lynching the PFK helped scum as much as town. Only one scum down so far, but only two town. Game could still go either way.
Hard to say who my investigations are helping more. They're narrowing the places scum can hide, but also the places that town power-roles can hide. I expect to live one more Night, with scum trying for a town power role ToNight in the unknown pool. Especially if neither of my possible targets are scum. After another cycle, the unknown pool may be small enough that Night-killing me, rather than town, makes more sense.
In any case, the odds of me winning are looking very good.
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Post by FruitAndGarbage on Sept 6, 2013 14:10:27 GMT -5
Welp, it looks like I missed my last opportunity to actually post during the day by abooout half an hour. Awesome. Still, things worked out pretty well without me at least. Given there's no time crunch now, I'll chip in this evening or tomorrow morning; that way, maybe I won't make dumb mistakes like I did with my late-night postvomit.
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Post by dizzymrslizzy on Sept 6, 2013 14:51:14 GMT -5
Ugh I did too. I wound up falling asleep and didn't wake up to reread/vote as intended. Sorry guys
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Post by Sister Coyote on Sept 6, 2013 18:29:27 GMT -5
Seems like we all had really lousy meatspace weeks; mine's been ca-razy, too.
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Post by dizzymrslizzy on Sept 6, 2013 21:25:35 GMT -5
Okay so I just caught up with what happened literal today. What an end to this mess.
Comments-
- What do we think about Bill's Colby was killed by Swammer/Sister comment? Is there any merit in that comment, or do we just throw it away because he was a PFK? Is he a PFK that townsided, or scumsided, or like Pleo selfsided only.
- Patricia, your comment about the bomb/bugs are so farfetched it seems like PIS. It is just so far out in left field, I can't even comprehend how you came up with it.
- Bill (I'm going to talk to you like you aren't dead), Without your supposed PIS about your investigation, Texcat's suggestion of Jan being the Scum kill and Colby being killed by Jan makes sense from those of us in the dark. You are looking at it through tinted glasses, if you weren't just BSing us all.
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Post by sinjin on Sept 8, 2013 8:36:12 GMT -5
Okay so I just caught up with what happened literal today. What an end to this mess. Comments- - What do we think about Bill's Colby was killed by Swammer/Sister comment? Is there any merit in that comment, or do we just throw it away because he was a PFK? Is he a PFK that townsided, or scumsided, or like Pleo selfsided only. - Patricia, your comment about the bomb/bugs are so farfetched it seems like PIS. It is just so far out in left field, I can't even comprehend how you came up with it. - Bill (I'm going to talk to you like you aren't dead), Without your supposed PIS about your investigation, Texcat's suggestion of Jan being the Scum kill and Colby being killed by Jan makes sense from those of us in the dark. You are looking at it through tinted glasses, if you weren't just BSing us all. What kind of a question is "What do we think?" Why don't you tell us what YOU think? If Bill had turned up scum, I would have considered that Bill and SisC where in cahoots and when one turned up scum, the other would would get some awesome sauce town cred. Since he turned up PFK, that sounds unlikely, although there have been pairs of PFK's in the past Why are you still confusing 3rd parties and PFK's? PFK means Playing for Keeps. PfK's are win stealers, in general, if they win every one else; town, scum and any 3rd parties who have not yet met their win-con lose. 3rd parties can meet their win con and the game continues til town or scum win. There is no such think as a town-side PFK! Finally, what are you on about Patricia for? It helps to include a quote when posts are made in a different thread. What PIS are you talking about?
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Post by dizzymrslizzy on Sept 8, 2013 11:03:53 GMT -5
I'm not confusing third party and PFKs.
They both can town side or scum side with their delivery of information, voting, etc...
I'm trying to feel out what I think of Bill and his motivations. Was there any truth in his statements about swammer/sis killing jan. or did he make it up to save his rear end
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Post by dizzymrslizzy on Sept 8, 2013 11:07:58 GMT -5
Because I can't do anything about it. In light of all the new information Bill has just tossed out this morning, very late in the day, I almost didn't bring this up. However, it is still on my mind so I think I will throw this into the mix as well. About the bomb - here is my idea. Someone, may be even Abstain himself places a bomb on Abstain with a note - If you don't receive any votes/ or maybe not in the group of vote leaders today the bomb will be either be deactivated or maybe he would be able to pass it to someone else - But if Abstain (or the person with the bomb) gets voted on but not lynched the bomb will go off? This is just my thinking but it would seems to fit with Abstain play style for today and the lets wait and see what happens with the bomb style most have accepted for today. So to test I'm going to change my vote Unvote: TexCat Vote: Abstain This is the post I was confused about Patricia's thoughts on the bomb. It's very far fetched and bizarre
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Post by dizzymrslizzy on Sept 8, 2013 11:27:45 GMT -5
And sinjin I think you are confusing me with Patricia.
I always knew and understood what a PFK was
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Post by dizzymrslizzy on Sept 8, 2013 12:13:32 GMT -5
And sinjin I think you are confusing me with Patricia.
I always knew and understood what a PFK was
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Post by FruitAndGarbage on Sept 9, 2013 1:54:34 GMT -5
Alright, well, it's been a bit longer than I wanted, but here I am again! Pretty much everything that happened after my last post was related to bill's eventual lynch (I was really sure he was scum, too... boo that he wasn't, but hey! PFK's even better in a way!), and therefor doesn't really need much of my commentary or thoughts. It's all been and gone.
What does still strike me, though, is patricia's play. I really can't get a handle on it. I'm hesitant to suspect a claimed doc too much, especially in the absence of any counterclaims, but at the same time... the timing of the claim is weird. The refusal to claim followed by a claim with no pressure on her was weird. The fact that she was trying too hard to protect bill to her own detriment when she'd presumably know she was a doc and have no info on his alignment was SUPER weird. If he'd flipped scum, I'd be on her like ham on rye, but he was PFK. What possible motivation could she have to help him if she'd known unless there was some kind of lover role in play or perhaps a small PFK team? Is that even possible? What's the deal? I guess basically I'd like to hear a lot more from her in the future. I just really don't know what to make of things.
Additionally, bill made an interesting point while he was flailing around about my read on Paranoia. Obviously I'm not going to bother responding much to it, given he was just really trying to get suspicion off himself at that point, but there was some accuracy to it. I'd totally conflated Para's day 3 play with his play in general (as well as forgetting his whole claim!). In fact, he kind of dropped totally off the map for the most part. Obviously I (and cookies) aren't really in a position to cast suspicion on anyone for being busy, but it is pretty at odds with his post following KidV's mislynch. What's up, monomaniacal monobear? Surely you have more to share with the class than just a vote on the bomber after he claimed. (I do stand by my analysis of Jaade, though. Not seeing them as scummy or townie. Not hardly seeing them at all.)
It's worth noting that in addition to Para and Jade, who had one and no posts respectively, sinjin and Pleo each had four posts. I was also riding the lurker train pretty hard, as I pointed out. Any of the five of us would need some pretty serious prodding tomorrow, since we're getting towards the point in the game where absenteeism is going to start costing us, but sinjin and Pleo each have a little more leeway given that they have fairly solid roleclaims. Pleo moreso than sinjin. The fact that Pleo's going to investigate one of the two lurkiest helps in that regard, but I still think it's time to start looking harder at people who don't say much, or don't have much to say when they do contribute. Given the amount of claims we've had so far we know a fair amount about the loudest players; let's start looking for more info about the quieter ones.
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Post by storyteller0910 on Sept 9, 2013 7:30:41 GMT -5
Sorry, gang - issues similar to last time. Dawn in a few minutes.
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