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Post by sinjin on Sept 10, 2013 20:04:54 GMT -5
Unvote: texcat Vote: ScathachEvery single one of us should be voting Jaade, but then again we are no longer playing Mafia. Why are you not voting Jaade? Why are you voting Scathach? |
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Post by Meeko on Sept 10, 2013 20:05:38 GMT -5
The irony here is not lost on me. There is no irony here. Well, now you've literally moved on to literally. |
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Post by Meeko on Sept 10, 2013 20:07:30 GMT -5
Unvote: texcat Vote: ScathachEvery single one of us should be voting Jaade, but then again we are no longer playing Mafia. Why are you not voting Jaade? Why are you voting Scathach? I can ask the same of those voting me. But logic be damned. |
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Post by Meeko on Sept 10, 2013 20:19:18 GMT -5
Unvote: Scathach
Vote: Jaade
Everyone is being very hypocritical.
At least I was.
I fail to see why I am more likely to receive votes than Jaade.
If you fail to see this, you either are scum, or don't know how to play Mafia.
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Post by sinjin on Sept 10, 2013 20:19:46 GMT -5
Why are you not voting Jaade? Why are you voting Scathach? I can ask the same of those voting me. But logic be damned. And you are doing the damning. My vote on you stands. |
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Post by texcat on Sept 10, 2013 20:43:05 GMT -5
I'd love to be voting Patricia right now, and I'd even switch to the jailer if they'd care to claim. Although, if meeko is the jailer, it would explain why no one was jailed on D3. So, I might actually be voting for the jailer.
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Post by dizzymrslizzy on Sept 10, 2013 20:49:34 GMT -5
Okay here's unofficial color coded Vote Tallys for the last 4 days.
I included Pleo's investigation as Green
Claimed 3rd party are a different shade of Brown
Day 1:
…Cookies (3) – Meeko, gnarlycharly, scathach, Pleo
Texcat (2) – Colby11, silverjan, patricia, mahaloth
Mahaloth (5) – texcat, Colby11, Pleonast, SilverJan, DizzyLizzy
Colby11 (3) – BillMc, Sister Coyote, KidVermicious
KidVermicious (2) – FruitandGarbage, swammerdami (paranoia), Scathach, Pleo
Pleonast (1) – dizzymrslizzy, Jaade
Paranoia (1) – abstain
Meeko (1) – Paranoia
Swammerdami (1) - …Cookies, (pleo)
Peeker/Sinjin (0) – Texcat
BillMc – Pleo
Scathach – Pleo
SisterCoyote- Pleo
Day 2:
KidV (6)- Paranoia, Swammer, SilverJan, Cookies Patricia. Fruit
Cookies- Patricia
Peekers/Sinjin- Texcat, Meeko
Colby (2) - SisterCoyote, Sinjin
Swammer (2)- Cookies, Jaade, Dizzy
Abstain (3)– Texcat, Colby, Pleo
BillMc (1)- Abstain
Paranoia (1) – Kid
Pleo (1) - Meeko
Patricia- (1) Bill
Day 3 Votes:
Texcat bomb of votes: Sinjin, Meeko, Cookies, Patricia
Patricia (1)- Texcat, Pleo, Bill, Scathach, Cookies
Dizzy – Abstain
Bill (13)- Swammer, SisterCoyote, Fruit. Scathach, Abstain, Patricia, Pleo, Meeko, Paranoia, Cookies
Texcat- Meeko, Patricia
Sinjin- Abstain
Swammer- Cookies, Fruit
Abstain (1)- Sinjin, Patricia
Scathach - Pleo
D4 Votes:
Texcat Vote bomb – Paranoia, Cookies, Meeko
Cookies Votes everyone
Meeko (4)- Texcat, Sinjin, Cookies, Patricia
Scathach (2)- Paranoia, Meeko
Texcat (1)- Meeko
Fruit (1)- Swammer
Jaade (1) - Meeko
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Post by dizzymrslizzy on Sept 10, 2013 20:56:25 GMT -5
Actions:
D1 Mahaloth Lynched
N1 Gnarly Killed
N1 Meeko Jailed
N1 Pleo Investigates Peeker/Sinjin as 3rd party Comedian
N1 Sister Redirects from Pleo to Colby
D2 KidV Town Vig Lynched
D2 Bomb Placed on Abstain
N2 Silver Jan Town Vig Killed
N2 Colby 3rd party Backup Killed
N2 Meeko released from Jail
N2 Pleo investigates Swammer 3rd party Prof Glass
D3 Bill PFK Bomber lynched
N3 Pleo Killed
N3 Abstain killed by Bomb
N3 Patricia Jailed
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Post by dizzymrslizzy on Sept 10, 2013 21:01:51 GMT -5
And I completely confused myself and my case....FFS, I need to go back and re-read.
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Post by Meeko on Sept 10, 2013 21:02:28 GMT -5
I can ask the same of those voting me. But logic be damned. And you are doing the damning. My vote on you stands. Because your vote on me is so logical. |
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Post by dizzymrslizzy on Sept 10, 2013 21:11:33 GMT -5
Okay here's my case on Patricia and Fruit....
I'm going to Quote Bill here because he made a lot of sense from Day 2
Kid had 4 votes (Paranoia, Swammer and SilverJan, Cookies)
Abstain had 3 votes (Texcat, Colby, and Pleo)
Patricia who I have a strong scum lean on swooped in and made a bad vote to try and put more distance on Kid/Abstain. That obviously didn't work, but then Fruit came in right behind her and "saved the day" for scum pushing it out 2 votes.
Between that vote, and his D1 vote on Townie Kid, and his admitting to active lurking. I think I'm going to land on:
Vote: FruitandGarbage
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Post by dizzymrslizzy on Sept 10, 2013 21:12:50 GMT -5
I like cookies also for her vote breaking the Kid/Abstain tie, but I don't know if she would have actively done that as Scum...
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Post by texcat on Sept 10, 2013 21:55:53 GMT -5
Not every third party can be simply recruited you know. (see: Sinjin) That's certainly true -- though there was nothing in my PM about being "recruitable", so I don't think we can assume anything based on the chance that where she can choose to look like anyone she couldn't also be recruited permanently to Scum. Her PM said that she could not be recruited. Of course, while Pleo confirmed that Sinjin was 3rd party, we have no confirmation on the details of her PM, only her word on it. If her quoted PM is to be believed, she cannot be recruited permanently. And lets expand on this. If gnarly was anything like me he could have picked between town and scum (which I believe is highly likely), Sinjin can freely pick sides, and so on and so forth. If any of us were just straight survivors from the start then it's likely they could be recruited, or if they had weirdly different wincons like Pleos. Can you expand on this a little bit? Does your wincon look like Sinjin's? And what did Gnarly have to do with it? Does your PM say anything about whether you are recruitable? |
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Post by Paranoia on Sept 10, 2013 23:29:51 GMT -5
I said day two that Gnarly and I would become masons if one of us visited the other, and yes, the wording of my pm is similar to Sinjins - I can select my team at will.
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Post by Paranoia on Sept 10, 2013 23:35:21 GMT -5
Up until I pick a team anyway. At that point I'm stuck.
In other news: kinda flumoxed by meeko immediately voting scathach when pressured with zero reasoning before jumping to Jaade.
In less bizarre happenstance, that post from Dizzy is actually rather nice.
Hmm.
Hey Meeko, thoughts on patricia n' Fruit And Garbage? What about cookies? Why did you vote scathach in the first place?
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Post by FruitAndGarbage on Sept 11, 2013 1:10:20 GMT -5
Your case against me is relatively logical (obviously wrong from where I'm standing but you come by it honestly), except for the part where you're supporting it because apparently it's scummy to literally not have time to put a post together. That part's actually pretty frustrating, and if I didn't think it was more worth the town's time to focus on the three I mentioned than other milder suspicions, using something like that to push a lynch would make me want to reexamine the suspicions I already had against you. I get about fifteen hours of free time a week these days, with an extra swell last one; that really shouldn't affect your judgement or anyone else's, and I'm not sure why it's part of your case against me but not a strike against cookies or Para |
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Post by Meeko on Sept 11, 2013 8:48:22 GMT -5
Up until I pick a team anyway. At that point I'm stuck. In other news: kinda flumoxed by meeko immediately voting scathach when pressured with zero reasoning before jumping to Jaade. In less bizarre happenstance, that post from Dizzy is actually rather nice. Hmm. Hey Meeko, thoughts on patricia n' Fruit And Garbage? What about cookies? Why did you vote scathach in the first place? At this point actual cases don't matter anymore. I tell everyone of the wagon on me, and no one cares. At the point cases don't matter, mafia doesn't matter, it comes down to vote numbers. I was simply moving votes to people close in totals to my own. |
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Post by dizzymrslizzy on Sept 11, 2013 9:03:57 GMT -5
Meeko you have to stop taking it so personally. Cases always matter. I know self preservation matters also at times, but here's the thing.
Yes there may be a wagon on you, but if you are town, give us your thoughts and beliefs. Those of us who you leave behind will at least know your motivation instead of your current "cases doesn't matter" attitude.
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Post by storyteller0910 on Sept 11, 2013 12:01:48 GMT -5
Perhaps a vote count? Yes, I think so.
Meeko (4) - texcat, sinjin, ...Cookies, patricia
Jaade (2) - fruitandgarbage, Meeko
FruitandGarbage (2) - swammerdami, dizzymrslizzy
scathach (1) - Paranoia
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Post by Sister Coyote on Sept 11, 2013 13:08:14 GMT -5
So is the case on Meeko that he's being annoying, that he's exhibiting PIS, or something else?
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Post by ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies on Sept 11, 2013 13:16:47 GMT -5
For me, he's being annoying. And one of these days he's going to perfect the art of being annoying, non-contributive, fixated, reactionary scum. Who the heck knows if now is that time or not though. It seems like he's not inclined to claim at this point either, which is yet another thing that can be both suspect and yet fall in line with a Townie Meeko being his stubborn pro-meeko-but-anti-town self.
Unvote: Meeko
Vote: Jaade
A lynched Jaade will at least provide information to the game with her flip.
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Post by Sister Coyote on Sept 11, 2013 13:21:06 GMT -5
A lynched Jaade will at least provide information to the game with her flip. I can get behind this. Vote: Jaade |
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Post by dizzymrslizzy on Sept 11, 2013 13:44:57 GMT -5
What information will lynching Jaade give us?
Jaade D1 voted Pleo
Jaade D2 voted Swammer
and we haven't seen her since?
Pleo was 3rd party.....and Swammer was at the very lease 3rd Party at the start of D3.
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Post by sinjin on Sept 11, 2013 13:47:30 GMT -5
So is the case on Meeko that he's being annoying, that he's exhibiting PIS, or something else? Stuff like this: He has shown no interest in scum hunting and has not since Day 1. All of his posts are nonsense. His play is completely anti-town. As I stated before I believe he is either PFK or scum. I would not be surprised at all if he is the jailer as someone up thread suggested. The only "case" he has made to date is that texcat might get some awesome powers if she votes for everyone because that happened in that Batman game..........once. |
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Post by ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies on Sept 11, 2013 14:00:15 GMT -5
What information will lynching Jaade give us? Jaade D1 voted Pleo Jaade D2 voted Swammer and we haven't seen her since? Pleo was 3rd party.....and Swammer was at the very lease 3rd Party at the start of D3. Role name and faction was the information I was referring to. If she flips as severely lurking scum/pfk or awol scum/pfk that would be ideal. If she flips as 3rd party that at least gives us hard data and makes a dent in what we don't know. If she's Town that will suck, but would again give us hard data and make a dent in what we don't know. |
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Post by sinjin on Sept 11, 2013 14:25:39 GMT -5
Jaade hasn't signed in since 9/6 at about 2 am. Therefore she did not night-kill Pleo or jail Patricia. I hate lurkers or those who go awol as much or probably more than most but don't see the value of lynching her today. I am more concerned with the jailer and how he/she is picking candidates. Why pick Meeko as the first to be jailed? Why pick Patricia as the second when she was coming under suspicion and had off handedly claimed doc? And why was no one jailed in between Meeko and Patricia? Was it because the jailer, jailed himself?
Lynching Jaade who isn't even here to claim is just lazy, lazy, lazy.
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Post by dizzymrslizzy on Sept 11, 2013 14:30:52 GMT -5
Exactly my point Sinjin.
We have a few things we need to hash out:
We need to find the Jailer and find out WTF he/she is about.
We need to find Scum.
Finding the person who killed Pleo would be much more productive than lynching a random player who wasn't here to either Jail Patricia or Kill Pleo.
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Post by ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies on Sept 11, 2013 14:37:31 GMT -5
By my reckoning, lynching Meeko is pretty lazy too. I am ok with being called lazy if nets a scum or pfk.
But they are both sticking out like sore thumbs. What suspicions I have about anyone else, while arguably more relevant to the game, are stuck in a soup of null tells and the vagueness of what seems to be a game that is light on traditional Scum or Town. Based on the current vote count, it looks like lots of other people are in a similar frame of mind.
I for one would like more data as context to dig into those who are participating.
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Post by ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies on Sept 11, 2013 14:39:24 GMT -5
Ok, point taken that Jaade is apparently not the jailer or Pleo killer.
Let's get with the claiming then, Meeko.
Unvote: Jaade
Vote: Meeko
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Post by ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies on Sept 11, 2013 14:41:45 GMT -5
If Jaade is somehow sending night actions into Story via smoke signal or carrier pigeon, post-game drinks are on sinjin and Dizzy.  |
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