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Post by storyteller0910 on Sept 16, 2013 8:36:21 GMT -5
Scrawled in graffiti on the underside of a bridge
HERE LIES DERF. HE WUZ ANTYSOS ANTESCISL ANDY UNFRENDLY.
SEVEN LIVE. HOW MANY MORE WILL LIE?
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scathach, who was Derf, a Third Party Player (Bomb-themed serial killer), has been Night killed.
Day Five begins here and will end at 2:00PM on Friday, September 20. Happy lynching!
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Post by scáthach on Sept 16, 2013 8:59:23 GMT -5
Well nuts.
Go whichever side didn't kill me!
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Post by texcat on Sept 16, 2013 9:15:28 GMT -5
So, I guess that scathach was responsible for Abstain's bomb and death.
Vote: Patricia
I still do not believe that she is a doc.
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Post by patricia on Sept 16, 2013 10:29:24 GMT -5
So, I guess that scathach was responsible for Abstain's bomb and death. Vote: PatriciaI still do not believe that she is a doc. Lazy vote again tex - what you going to do after I'm lynch ride your bit of town credit to a scum victory? |
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Post by scáthach on Sept 16, 2013 10:33:03 GMT -5
If anyone has spoilers can they PM them to me?
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Post by patricia on Sept 16, 2013 10:34:59 GMT -5
Welcome to the Game; you are Captain Metropolis
STARTING ALIGNMENT: Third Party
SUB-ALIGNMENT: Protector
ROLE TYPE: Doctor
Subject ID #00004: Nelson Gardner (b. ca 1925) – also "Captain Metropolis." Sickly, asthmatic teenager overcame physical limitations to become college football player and USMC Lieutentant... following honorable discharge, among the first of the costumed vigilantes... Founder and putative leader of the "Minutemen"... extremely conservative and reactionary, but essentially concerned with protecting people from those who would harm them (and, when he deems it necessary, from themselves). Presumed dead in an automobile accident in 1974
Well here is my role PM believe it or not
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Post by patricia on Sept 16, 2013 10:37:04 GMT -5
Ok Take two
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Post by swammerdami on Sept 16, 2013 11:40:42 GMT -5
That isn't you full role PM, Patricia.
(I've not posted my complete PM either. Three brownie points to whoever guesses why, and why I'm willing to post it now.)
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Post by patricia on Sept 16, 2013 11:45:05 GMT -5
That isn't you full role PM, Patricia. (I've not posted my complete PM either. Three brownie points to whoever guesses why, and why I'm willing to post it now.) You are correct it is not I left off my powers and my win con - either you want a doctor around or not . That is all the information I'm giving the scum and I don't need to live to meet my win con so I have laid it on the table for town to do as they will |
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Post by Paranoia on Sept 16, 2013 12:55:31 GMT -5
Time for me to full claaaiiiimmmm. Welcome to the Game; you are Silk Spectre IISTARTING ALIGNMENT: Third Party
SUB-ALIGNMENT: Unaligned
ROLE TYPE: Investigator/Doctor
Subject ID #33673: Laurel Jane Juspeczyk (b. 1949) – also “Laurie Juspeczyk," "Silk Spectre II," and "Sandra Hollis." Daughter of Sally Juspecyzk ("Jupiter", the original Silk Spectre) and Edward Blake ("The Comedian"), though the paternal aspect of her parentage remains unknown to her... Impulsive, thrill-seeking behavior as a child and adolescent... drawn to career as costumed vigilante partly out of sense of obligation to famous mother... skilled and improvisational close-quarters combatant... closely tied to Daniel Dreiberg (the second Nite Owl)... exact nature of this relationship unknown. Stubborn, contrary... determined to choose own path no matter the cost. ABILITIES:Once per Night, Juspecyzk will investigate a player of her choice, incidentally protecting that player from harm in the process. Her investigation will show her target's starting alignment (ie, the alignment the player was originally assigned in his/her role PM), but will not contain any information about possible alignment changes subsequent to game start.
Juspeczyk may not investigate the same player more than once.
Should Juspeczyk actually locate Dan Dreiberg via her investigations, the two of them are likely to interact outside of the game. The possible outcome of such an interaction is difficult to predict. WIN CONDITION:Laurie Juspecyzk is pathologically stubborn... it will be difficult for any side to draw her in until she has chosen for herself. She may choose an alignment at will, with the establishment of alignment taking place at the end of the Day or Night on which the choice is made. Should Juspecyzk choose to become Town, she will win with the Town; should she choose to become Scum, she will win with the Scum (but not count toward their win condition, learn their identities, or join in their talks).
Should Laurie Juspeczyk encounter Dan Dreiberg after she has selected an alignment, any incompatibility between their outlooks will have to be resolved.
Note that until she chooses an alignment, Juspeczyk is considered an unaligned third party survivor and will lose if she dies before aligning. If she wishes, she may choose to retain this starting alignment, without joining any side at all, throughout the game; in such a case, she will win if she is alive at the end of the game.
I have two living targets. One is Cookies. One is Fruit And Garbage. One was scum at the start of the game. The other was a third party. I'll reveal which soon enough. And if you're wondering why I thought colby was third party it was mostly because I investigated him, along with Abstain the night he got blown up, which leads me to believe what killed him was a piercing ability. Fun stuff. I'd rather not lynch Patricia today - I will take tonight to protect her and find out her starting alignment and she should in turn protect me. |
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Post by texcat on Sept 16, 2013 13:19:53 GMT -5
Can you tell us when exactly you investigated them? I thought Cookies was town based on D1 voting, but have recently become more and more concerned about recruitment.
Can anyone tell us about any recruitment attempts from last night?
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Post by Paranoia on Sept 16, 2013 13:51:01 GMT -5
Yeah. Night one I investigated Colby because I got redirected to him from Pleo by SisC, hence why I was banging on about him being third party.
Night two I investigated cookies.
Night three I investigated abstain, he came back scum.
And dead (thank you Scathach). Hence why I just mused that the bomb had to be a piercing kill.
Last night I investigated Fruit And Garbage.
Which come to think of it doesn't actually impart much mystery into my "one of cookies or Fruit and Garbage are scum."
And keep in mind I only find out their start of game alignment. Not their current one.
anyway Vote: FruitAndGarbage
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Post by FruitAndGarbage on Sept 16, 2013 14:29:31 GMT -5
e: whoops, hang on derf. gotta quote straight from the PM
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Post by FruitAndGarbage on Sept 16, 2013 14:41:44 GMT -5
Cool, I was hoping this wouldn't happen. There's not much to do but claim, and I've literally never seen this go well. Not once. But you gotta do what you gotta do, and if a mislynch is what it'll take to narrow down the suspects, c'est la mort! Welcome to the Game; you are The Twilight LadySTARTING ALIGNMENT: Watchman (Town)
SUB-ALIGNMENT: N/A
ROLE TYPE: Conditional Miller
Subject ID #46472: Elizabeth Lane (dob unkown)... also "Liz Lane" and "The Twilight Lady"... under the latter title, established a series of high-end vice dens dealing in drugs and prostitution... mostly nonviolent criminal record... considered suspicious by most, but no known ties to the so-called "uncorrupted"... extensive previous interactions with Dan Dreiberg, in his incarnation as the second Nite Owl... also known to have history with the vigilante known as Rorschach, narrowly escaped being killed at his hands thanks to Dreiberg's intervention... ABILITIES:Due to her checkered past, Liz has had to take great pains to hide her identity form those present, but her disguise will not stand up to scrutny. As such, if she is ever investigated, she will appear to that player regardless of their alignment or methods as Uncorrupted (scum).
She considers whatever insane plans the people who trapped her here as "bad for business", and as such would much rather see the Watchmen eliminate those who would disrupt her establishment, even if it means siding with people who don't trust her or have even fought her in the past. She believes that the only way for her to clear her name is to enlist the help of the one man who fought for her before: Dan Dreiberg, the second Nite Owl. Each night, she may visit one player. If she manages to find Dan Dreiberg, then she will appear on all future investigations (but not that night's) as a Watchman.
However, not everyone is as willng to forgive and forget. Most potential targets will simply not interact with her, but there may be some who will ruin her chances of being redeemed or even wish to do her harm.
WIN CONDITION:As a member of the so-called Watchmen (Town), Liz Lane will win when all of the Uncorrupted (the game’s Scum equivalent) and all PFK have been eliminated from the game. I gotta say, you have no idea how much I groaned when I read miller. There's a reason I so studiously avoided claiming >:1 I also gotta say I am a real dumbass with this forum's software. Hopefully I can figure out how to quote from a PM first go next time successfully by the next game! |
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Post by ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies on Sept 16, 2013 14:59:57 GMT -5
It feels a bit hinky to be claiming while our apparently thrice redundant 'doctor' can't manage to make a full and proper claim, even though she's been 'claimed' for Days now.
But I can say that Paranoia is correct with respect to me. What that says about he or FG's alignment, I'm just as uninformed as the rest of you.
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Post by texcat on Sept 16, 2013 17:10:22 GMT -5
Unvote: Patricia
Vote: Fruit
Fruit's PM is a contradiction to Pleo's. Pleo claimed that he would get a true result on the second investigation and Fruit's says that is not the case.
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Post by dizzymrslizzy on Sept 16, 2013 17:15:16 GMT -5
If anyone has spoilers can they PM them to me?
I'm still waiting for mine...LOL....So sorry! If anyone can send me too! |
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Post by texcat on Sept 16, 2013 18:31:42 GMT -5
Oh no!  I see Meeko was correct about my voting doing something, although it was entirely coincidental. I hate when Meeko's right. I wonder if he was somehow hooked into Cookie's role? Not only that but I remember Cookies voting for herself yesterday and I didn't think anything about it. |
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Post by FruitAndGarbage on Sept 16, 2013 20:10:40 GMT -5
I got the impression the discrepancy was because Pleo's reinvestigations were a countermeasure against alignment changes rather than my false read, but it's equally likely that my role PM is intentionally inaccurate because revealing that someone existed that could get my alignment right after two tries would reveal something about someone else's role, which GMs try not to do. I mean, if that's what makes you vote for me, go for it. We've probably got the numbers to weather one last mislynch (unless we lose more third parties overnight like we did yesterday), I just don't think that's a particularly great reason to distrust me.
As scum, I'd probably have tried calling bullshit on Para's role rather than fakeclaiming miller. Miller claims always get lynched.
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Post by Meeko on Sept 16, 2013 20:31:16 GMT -5
I hate when Meeko's right. Houston, we have a new sig. But, please elaborate, the afterlife is rather dull. |
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Post by ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies on Sept 16, 2013 21:16:31 GMT -5
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Post by ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies on Sept 16, 2013 21:22:02 GMT -5
That would be 'I do not want to get lynched' but my copy of Psychology for Dummies is available if anyone wants to borrow it.
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Post by swammerdami on Sept 17, 2013 6:01:25 GMT -5
Syllogistic "Proof" that F_and_G is Scum:
(1) At least one of the suspicious KidV voters (Cookies, Fruit, Paranoia) must be Scum. (If not, voting record is almost useless and Town has little chance anyway.)
(2) If Paranoia is Scum then so is Fruit. For Paranoia to lie would be suicidal. Scum might buss team-mate to get Town cred, but they wouldn't commit suicide just to get a misLynch likely to happen anyway.
(3) If Paranoia is not Scum, then probably not lying, so Cookies was not Scum Day 1, nor (most likely) when she voted KidV.
Q.E.D.
Vote: FruitAndGarbage
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Post by FruitAndGarbage on Sept 17, 2013 13:52:16 GMT -5
That does discount the possibility that Paranoia is a scum-aligned investigator and discovered an easy lynch target when he found what he knew was a miller as a result of knowing I wasn't on his team. I'd be less likely to think that was possible if we hadn't already seen an alignment cop flip.
Mostly what I suspect is Patricia as scum, Paranoia and Cookies being honest, and the three "suspicious" voters just having been wrong. Obviously given that I know I'm a miller I'd rather see her lynched today, but like I said, we should be able to pull this out regardless. Probably. If I get lynched and someone dies overnight (let's say texcat just because she's the safest scum target), that'd leave us with:
Paranoia
sinjin
...cookies
patricia
swammerdami
If patricia is the only scum, the only way she'd win is if sinjin switches alignment to scum tonight (or already has, not that it would have been good strategy until now) AND a third-party achieves a win and leaves the game. Or scum somehow pull out a double-kill.
So basically I feel pretty good about my chances either way, but I certainly don't intend to support what I know is a mislynch. Plus, I think we can end the game now without the possibility of something unforeseen throwing a wrench in the words if we Vote: patricia.
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Post by ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies on Sept 17, 2013 14:24:57 GMT -5
I'd really like to see all of Patricia's PM before making a decision Today.
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Post by texcat on Sept 17, 2013 14:40:54 GMT -5
And I'd like to know who the heck she's allegedly been protecting.
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Post by texcat on Sept 17, 2013 14:50:26 GMT -5
Also, I am too lazy at the moment to re-read, but I don't recall that Fruit ever said anything about his Dan Dreiberg(Colby)connection. I remember Paranoia mentioning his connection more than once, and if I had been Fruit, I would have been all over that, questioning Para.
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Post by FruitAndGarbage on Sept 17, 2013 20:05:06 GMT -5
Nah, why? We figured out pretty early on this game has a weird setup; I figured as soon as Paranoia claimed to bee seeking Dreiberg that Storyteller had assigned multiple people to seek him, and whoever got there first got the benefit. My bet at the time was that a town player, a third party player, and a scum player all had a distinct reason to look for him, but that's more gut feeling than anything.
I've seen a lot of games where the GM assigns multiple people to try to find the same thing or person. I didn't see any reason this one wouldn't be similar; the benefit he claimed (masonry) was similar enough to mine (alignment confirmation) that it wasn't a suspicious claim to me. Especially since it was moot given he claimed after Dreiberg's death. It's not like saying "Hey now, I need to find him so nobody thinks I'm scum!" would have been much of a counterclaim – or indeed a very persuasive argument – in any case. I saw no benefit to saying anything, so I didn't. And I'm glad I didn't, because if we'd lynched him over that we'd have lost a probable investigator, and if we'd lynched me over it I'd be dead and bored.
I still kind of suspect there's someone else who wanted to find him, but I'm just going to have to wait until game-end to see if my gut's right or just grumbling.
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Post by sinjin on Sept 17, 2013 21:11:50 GMT -5
That does discount the possibility that Paranoia is a scum-aligned investigator and discovered an easy lynch target when he found what he knew was a miller as a result of knowing I wasn't on his team. I'd be less likely to think that was possible if we hadn't already seen an alignment cop flip. Mostly what I suspect is Patricia as scum, Paranoia and Cookies being honest, and the three "suspicious" voters just having been wrong. Obviously given that I know I'm a miller I'd rather see her lynched today, but like I said, we should be able to pull this out regardless. Probably. If I get lynched and someone dies overnight (let's say texcat just because she's the safest scum target), that'd leave us with: Paranoia sinjin ...cookies patricia swammerdami If patricia is the only scum, the only way she'd win is if sinjin switches alignment to scum tonight (or already has, not that it would have been good strategy until now) AND a third-party achieves a win and leaves the game. Or scum somehow pull out a double-kill. So basically I feel pretty good about my chances either way, but I certainly don't intend to support what I know is a mislynch. Plus, I think we can end the game now without the possibility of something unforeseen throwing a wrench in the words if we Vote: patricia. Aren't you paying attention? I don't count towards a scum win. I just ride their coat tails. I posted my PM, the good, the bad and the ugly. I want to see Patricia's and Swammerdami's. And Cookies I was well aware of you doofiness in going back and forth with you Jaade and Meeko posts. When Meeko and Jaade both came up 3rd party I immediately was convinced you were scum. And I'm still not unconvinced. SO maybe this helps your 3rd pary wincon or maybe you're scummy. Vote: cookies Until I see something out of Patricia. |
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Post by ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies on Sept 17, 2013 21:43:21 GMT -5
Thanks for the self-protect  |
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I see Meeko was correct about my voting doing something, although it was entirely coincidental. I hate when Meeko's right. I wonder if he was somehow hooked into Cookie's role? Not only that but I remember Cookies voting for herself yesterday and I didn't think anything about it. 
