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Post by xarchangelx on Nov 6, 2013 12:54:54 GMT -5
NETA: very long time.
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Post by Sister Coyote on Nov 6, 2013 14:27:24 GMT -5
Mahaloth (5,5): Colby11 [13]; archangel [19]; Pleonast [37]; silverjan [39]; patricia [54]
BillMc (4,4): archangel [7]; Colby11 [11]; Pleonast [37]; gnarlycharlie [44]
Archangel (3,3): BillMc [5]; Pleonast [37]; Mahaloth [40] Pleonast (3,3): archangel [7,19]; Meeko [30]; Mahaloth [40]; gnarlycharlie [44] Meeko (3,3): archangel [20,31]; Pleonast [37]; silverjan [54]; patricia [55]
Colby11 (2,2): BillMc [5]; Archangel [7]
gnarlycharlie (1,1): silverjan [54]
SilverJan (0,1): BillMc [5,33]; Pleonast [37,38]
With these votes, Mahaloth will be lynched.
Side note: The mod has a head cold. Please double-check the vote counts as she may have erred.
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Post by xarchangelx on Nov 6, 2013 14:34:41 GMT -5
SisC, I am confused on the tie-breaking now. If I unvote Mahaloth, who will be the lynch leader?
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Post by Silver Jan on Nov 6, 2013 15:03:28 GMT -5
SisC, I am confused on the tie-breaking now. If I unvote Mahaloth, who will be the lynch leader? From my likkle brain it would look as if BillMc could be in the lead? with 4 votes each. Thats from scutinising the votes so far. Why do you want to unvote Mahaloth?
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Post by xarchangelx on Nov 6, 2013 15:15:31 GMT -5
Because I feel strongly that BillM is scum and would like to see him lynched. If your reading is correct then I am unvoting Mahaloth to put Bill in the lead. I'm just unsure because Mahaloth was in the lead first, then Bill, then Mahaloth again.
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Post by xarchangelx on Nov 6, 2013 15:28:04 GMT -5
Unvote: all
Vote: BillMc
Because it will increase the chances that Bill will be lynched, even if it doesn't put him in the lead.
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Post by Sister Coyote on Nov 6, 2013 16:46:53 GMT -5
SisC, I am confused on the tie-breaking now. If I unvote Mahaloth, who will be the lynch leader? Ties will be resolved using the following method: The player who received the most votes during the current Day phase will be the lynch candidate.
If both players received the same number of maximum votes, the person who received the first vote during the current Day phase will be the lynch candidate.With Maha and Bill tied at four votes each, Maha would have remained the vote leader as he would have received five total votes to Bill's four. However, vote count coming shortly.
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Post by Sister Coyote on Nov 6, 2013 16:55:09 GMT -5
Mahaloth (4,5): Colby11 [13]; archangel [19,65]; Pleonast [37]; silverjan [39]; patricia [54] BillMc (4,4): archangel [7,65,65]; Colby11 [11]; Pleonast [37]; gnarlycharlie [44]
Archangel (3,3): BillMc [5]; Pleonast [37]; Mahaloth [40] Pleonast (3,3): archangel [7,19]; Meeko [30]; Mahaloth [40]; gnarlycharlie [44] Meeko (3,3): archangel [20,31]; Pleonast [37]; silverjan [54]; patricia [55]
Colby11 (1,2): BillMc [5]; Archangel [7,65] gnarlycharlie (1,1): silverjan [54]
SilverJan (0,1): BillMc [5,33]; Pleonast [37,38]
With these votes, Mahaloth will be lynched (Maha reached a total of five votes, Bill thus far has only four; per the tiebreaking rules, Maha remains in the lead).
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Post by Pleonast on Nov 6, 2013 16:56:11 GMT -5
I wish I had more to discuss, but things are rather dead. If there's only two scum left, we've got a whole lot of townies not pulling their weight.
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Post by Mahaloth on Nov 6, 2013 20:31:22 GMT -5
Mahaloth is the lynch leader, vote swings onto BillM (whom I am convinced is scum), and then the vote swings back onto Mahaloth. The problem with a Mahaloth lynch is it doesn't really tell us all that much. Most people are voting him because of the balance issue. Dude, lynching me will provide one nice nugget of info. That I am Town....and that the balance is weird.
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Post by Meeko on Nov 7, 2013 1:36:57 GMT -5
Why can't I vote for someone likely to die?
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Post by Meeko on Nov 7, 2013 1:38:20 GMT -5
Mahaloth is the lynch leader, vote swings onto BillM (whom I am convinced is scum), and then the vote swings back onto Mahaloth. The problem with a Mahaloth lynch is it doesn't really tell us all that much. Most people are voting him because of the balance issue. Dude, lynching me will provide one nice nugget of info. That I am Town....and that the balance is weird. Something needs to give, because I don't get half of what you guys are talking about.
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Post by Meeko on Nov 7, 2013 1:42:41 GMT -5
I'm going back to my votes of yesterday Vote: Meeko - yesterday I voted Meeko for his just phoning in and not scum hunting but today I'm adding to the case his vote on Pleo - why would any Town player vote someone who is likely to die already? No good reason I can think of - trying to save a scum buddy? You are voting me, because you think I am voting for scum?!
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Post by Meeko on Nov 7, 2013 1:43:44 GMT -5
NETA: you are voting me, because I am voting for someone you think is scum, and then you say I'm not scum hunting. Double
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Post by gnarlycharlie on Nov 7, 2013 7:45:08 GMT -5
Vote Pleonast- Pure vibe at this point. He's playing well and not holding back. I say kill him and find out if he's scum. You do realize that I received a "sleepy" PM and am likely to die no matter what the votes are? Anyone voting to lynch me is basically saying "we'll just let the Day-killer choose the lynch for us". that said, i wonder why Pleo doesn't want to share anything if he's about to die. he's claiming to have some passive power or a mason. i'm not sure how holding back is helpful to town. this makes me suspicious. Vote: PleonastPerhaps English isn't the first language for everyone here, but I very clearly am not claiming what you're saying I did. well, English is my first language. it doesn't mean communication is perfect. you said you weren't vanilla. so you have some kind of ability or not? at any rate why won't you share any info you have given you might not make it to Night? i'm also suspicious of Bill. he's been active relative to his recent games and yet did not vote in D1 and D3. why have some people called out archangel for voting late but not Bill? he seems to be getting a free pass. he even called me out for flying below the radar. i can't say that i have been fairly passive but he does acknowledge that i usually play that way and votes me anyway. he knows it's a null tell but that doesn't stop him. i suppose the multiple votes allow him to do that but calling me out and not voting strikes me as hypocritical. at least i have more complete voting record. I think this post just confirms what I have been saying - you are dribbling along with minimal participation and not even bothering to read half of what had been posted. I did not acknowledge anything about your play style - you may be placing votes, but my vote on you was for contributing very little to the discussion. And both Archangel and Pleo have called me on my votes, and I stated why I didn't vote. Interestingly enough, it was your vote on chameleon that was the tie breaker - your total participation yesterDay was voting Chameleon and reaffirming you reason for voting her was because she didn't believe Patricia. You know, I am totally sick of this meta game shit "active relative to his recent games" - if I play I get called on it, if I don't play I get called on it. I travel a lot for work, flying a 100K miles a year is nothing, sod it, I'll stick to travel any leave mafia out of it. look, my point is you call me out for flying under the radar when you missed voting despite being around in this game. my only reason for mentioning the previous game is that you had less participation but at least voted. if i wanted to meta, i would have said that this behavior worked when you and Pizza won as scum in another game but i didn't. in fact, i often say that your absence is a null tell when others point it out. i merely wanted to point out that you are flying under the radar too and not getting called out for your votes. I don't really understand the votes on Pleo when it seems as if he is going to die anyway. If he doesn't die then we will known he was lying about feeling sleepy. I think that if Pleo gets lynched then it just negates the fact that there was no NK and Town has just voted for a no lynch by voting for Pleo. Vote: gnarlycharlieI think both his votes today are very odd. I have already explained what I think about a Pleo lynch and I find his vote for BillMc equally baffling. Although I might not agree with what BillMc has done, his voting strategy or lack thereof, I do feel that if he was scum he would have made sure to get a vote in, especially to cause a mislynch of a Townie. With Patricia not giving us any results it does give me a little niggle but it can be explained by Dizzy's power and a scum roleblocker. I know Meeko has a vote on Pleo but I haven't a clue what to think about him. He really does baffle me. Vote: MeekoBecause I cannot see how a vote on a dying Pleo helps Town at all. If Pleo is scum the poisoner could be a 3rd Party/SK or even Town (I don't actually think the poisoner is Town but it's a possibility). Another thing that I just thought of, if Pleo is scum and scum places their votes on him because he is dying anyway they might be hoping to get some Town cred when he flips scum. Convoluted perhaps but not impossible. what exactly don't you understand about my votes? I'm going back to my votes of yesterday Vote: Meeko - yesterday I voted Meeko for his just phoning in and not scum hunting but today I'm adding to the case his vote on Pleo - why would any Town player vote someone who is likely to die already? No good reason I can think of - trying to save a scum buddy? You are voting me, because you think I am voting for scum?! i think she said that she's voting you because you might be trying to save a scum buddy.
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Post by BillMc on Nov 7, 2013 8:38:51 GMT -5
look, my point is you call me out for flying under the radar when you missed voting despite being around in this game. my only reason for mentioning the previous game is that you had less participation but at least voted. if i wanted to meta, i would have said that this behavior worked when you and Pizza won as scum in another game but i didn't. in fact, i often say that your absence is a null tell when others point it out. i merely wanted to point out that you are flying under the radar too and not getting called out for your votes. I was not around for the second half of D1, and stated quite clearly why I was not voting on D3, you may not agree with reason but that is not flying under the radar. Likewise, my vote on you yesterday was for the lack of content in your posts - I'm not the most prolific poster, but I'm 2-3x you in this game, and most of your posts have been 90% quoting someone else with minimal additions. I can totally understand why others have quit playing over the years due to metagame reasons. "I always play like this when I am town" "he knows all my town tells so he must be scum" "those of you who have played with me before (including Bill) know that I always get lynched for playing like this when I am town." - there is no in-game logical argument that can be had with statements like that.
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Post by BillMc on Nov 7, 2013 8:45:48 GMT -5
Unvote: Colby
Archangel spent the whole of yesterday manipulating the vote, claiming that she wanted to commit suicide (so pro-town - not!), and she's done the same today - waiting till Patricia voted Mahaloth then unvoted him, ensuring the Mahaloth still stays in the hot seat.
I don't see any pro-town motivations for her play.
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Post by xarchangelx on Nov 7, 2013 10:19:05 GMT -5
Unvote: Colby Archangel spent the whole of yesterday manipulating the vote, claiming that she wanted to commit suicide (so pro-town - not!), and she's done the same today - waiting till Patricia voted Mahaloth then unvoted him, ensuring the Mahaloth still stays in the hot seat. I don't see any pro-town motivations for her play. May I ask why you are unvoting Colby and explaining it by restating your case on me?
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Post by Pleonast on Nov 7, 2013 11:18:04 GMT -5
Why can't I vote for someone likely to die? You can vote for whoever you like. And the rest of us can point how anti-town your choices are. By voting to lynch a player who's already going to die, you're letting the Day-killer pick the lynch, instead of the town. Preventing town from picking their lynch is very useful for scum, not so helpful for town. NETA: you are voting me, because I am voting for someone you think is scum, and then you say I'm not scum hunting. Yes, because I'm already going to die, you're not looking for scum. Unless you're trying to argue I'm the final scum, by not wanting to lynch anyone else, you are not hunting for scum. you said you weren't vanilla. No, I did not say that. Please reread my claims more carefully. Archangel spent the whole of yesterday manipulating the vote, claiming that she wanted to commit suicide (so pro-town - not!), and she's done the same today - waiting till Patricia voted Mahaloth then unvoted him, ensuring the Mahaloth still stays in the hot seat. I don't see any pro-town motivations for her play. I think you're likely scum as well, but this argument is sound. We really need to lynch arch. I'm unvoting everyone else, in order of least suspicious to most: unvote Mahalothunvote BillMcunvote Meeko
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Post by Sister Coyote on Nov 7, 2013 11:29:18 GMT -5
Mahaloth (3,5): Colby11 [13]; archangel [19,65]; Pleonast [37,78]; silverjan [39]; patricia [54] BillMc (3,4): archangel [7,65,65]; Colby11 [11]; Pleonast [37,78]; gnarlycharlie [44] Archangel (3,3): BillMc [5]; Pleonast [37]; Mahaloth [40] Pleonast (3,3): archangel [7,19]; Meeko [30]; Mahaloth [40]; gnarlycharlie [44]
Meeko (2,3): archangel [20,31]; Pleonast [37,78]; silverjan [54]; patricia [55]
gnarlycharlie (1,1): silverjan [54]
Colby11 (0,2): BillMc [5,76]; Archangel [7,65] SilverJan (0,1): BillMc [5,33]; Pleonast [37,38]
With these votes, Mahaloth will be lynched.
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Post by xarchangelx on Nov 7, 2013 11:38:57 GMT -5
Vote: Vote Archangel
Because I still think my lynch will tell more than Mahaloth's. And he may be scum but all of the votes are saying they are because of perceived balance issues, which is a good reason for scum to hide behind.
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Post by Pleonast on Nov 7, 2013 11:48:51 GMT -5
Because I still think my lynch will tell more than Mahaloth's. And he may be scum but all of the votes are saying they are because of perceived balance issues, which is a good reason for scum to hide behind. Then tell us who you think those scum are and vote for them.
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Post by xarchangelx on Nov 7, 2013 11:53:27 GMT -5
I did. I am 110% convinced Bill is scum and I voted for him. But one is going to lynch Bill and the only way I can prove that I really mean this is dying and flipping town. If you are town (which I think you are now) and are going to die today, and Bill is scum, scum is going to win this game unless I can prove that I am not scum going after him. The only way to prove this is to die.
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Post by xarchangelx on Nov 7, 2013 11:56:00 GMT -5
I think Bill and Colby are scum, and I think Mahaloth might be scum but the swings onto him bother me. I have had my votes on all of them, but I feel most strongly about Bill and the only way I can make my point is by dying. You may disagree with me and my play as town is always controversial but this is the only way I can make anyone listen to me.
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Post by Pleonast on Nov 7, 2013 12:12:12 GMT -5
archangel, if you are town, you're letting your ego get in the way of winning. We win by lynching scum, not by "proving things" nor by "making points" nor by "making others listen". Play to win the game, not the argument.
If you are town, your self-vote is helping scum by making it easier for town to mislynch.
And if you think getting yourself lynched will cause others to listen to you, you are wrong. By self-voting, you simply prove your priorities are wrong and your understanding of the game is poor. A self-lynched townie is someone to be pitied, not someone to follow.
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Post by xarchangelx on Nov 7, 2013 12:33:29 GMT -5
Okay. I admit that I am seriously frustrated with this game and I see your point, and I am more likely to take it now that I think you're town.
Unvote: All
Vote: BillM
Vote: Colby
Vote: Malaloth whom I am still on the fence about but leaning more towards scum.
It would really help if someone besides you and me would talk about something besides me.
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Post by Silver Jan on Nov 7, 2013 13:13:42 GMT -5
I am off to the coast to celebrate my cousins wedding. If you look at Africa it is an 8 hour drive and the wedding is between Sharon and Michelle. I have never been to a gay wedding either but I love my Sharon
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Post by patricia on Nov 7, 2013 13:46:16 GMT -5
Okay. I admit that I am seriously frustrated with this game and I see your point, and I am more likely to take it now that I think you're town. Unvote: All Vote: BillM Vote: Colby Vote: Malaloth whom I am still on the fence about but leaning more towards scum. It would really help if someone besides you and me would talk about something besides me. Well archangel I'm sorry that you are frustrated but your play really seem more like scum than town - You seem to be frustrated scum! So if you are town - just stop - We have no reason to throw in the towel we have the numbers it is just a matter of time to find the last two scum - you have good votes down now and I'm sure you have one if not both of the scum in your votes. I hope to be able to track the person who has lucky gotten away the past two night and if I right and we get scum today. Everything will come up roses
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Post by Sister Coyote on Nov 7, 2013 18:53:27 GMT -5
Mahaloth (4,5): Colby11 [13]; archangel [19,65,85]; Pleonast [37,78]; silverjan [39]; patricia [54]
Archangel (3,4): BillMc [5]; Pleonast [37]; Mahaloth [40]; archangel [80,85] BillMc (3,4): archangel [7,65,65]; Colby11 [11]; Pleonast [37,78]; gnarlycharlie [44] Pleonast (3,3): archangel [7,19]; Meeko [30]; Mahaloth [40]; gnarlycharlie [44]
Meeko (2,3): archangel [20,31]; Pleonast [37,78]; silverjan [54]; patricia [55]
Colby11 (1,2): BillMc [5,76]; Archangel [7,65,85] gnarlycharlie (1,1): silverjan [54]
SilverJan (0,1): BillMc [5,33]; Pleonast [37,38]
With these votes, Mahaloth will be lynched.
toDay will end in about 24 hours, give or take.
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Post by gnarlycharlie on Nov 7, 2013 23:11:01 GMT -5
hi all. i may not be around the next 48 to 72 hours (not that anyone would notice) . part of the country is now being hit by what's said to be the strongest typhoon ever to hit landfall in recorded history (190mph/305kph). i have relatives there so i might be busy in the aftermath.
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