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Day Two
Dec 20, 2013 16:01:39 GMT -5
Post by Sister Coyote on Dec 20, 2013 16:01:39 GMT -5
silverjan, It is impossible to win a bid and not take the action. All bids have an action, an amount, and a living person on which to perform the action. I am disinclined to share more than that I did not take any actions last night. You make this sound as if there is some secret that you are not sharing. No, not at all. There are a multiplicity of things that I might have done last night, but the end result and therefore the only thing of relevance was that I took no action.
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Day Two
Dec 20, 2013 16:02:34 GMT -5
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Post by guiri on Dec 20, 2013 16:02:34 GMT -5
My new black keyboard is awful, I can't type on it yeah, black keyboards are the worst. Try a grey one, they make much fewer typos and are so much more ergonomic!
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Dec 20, 2013 16:05:37 GMT -5
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Post by guiri on Dec 20, 2013 16:05:37 GMT -5
No, not at all. There are a multiplicity of things that I might have done last night, but the end result and therefore the only thing of relevance was that I took no action. This is already a game, no need to include mini-games-within-games here. Are you saying you were blocked? Or took no action? Or do you not consider some actions to be "actions"?
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Day Two
Dec 20, 2013 16:30:33 GMT -5
Post by Mahaloth on Dec 20, 2013 16:30:33 GMT -5
Sorry, guys, I have been really busy.
I won the investigate bid.
I did not receive results, though.
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Dec 20, 2013 16:42:06 GMT -5
Post by texcat on Dec 20, 2013 16:42:06 GMT -5
silverjan, It is impossible to win a bid and not take the action. All bids have an action, an amount, and a living person on which to perform the action. You make this sound as if there is some secret that you are not sharing. No, not at all. There are a multiplicity of things that I might have done last night, but the end result and therefore the only thing of relevance was that I took no action. Huh? A multiplicity of things? All I could do last night was bid. Why are you trying to make this such a mystery?
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Dec 20, 2013 17:24:50 GMT -5
Post by BillMc on Dec 20, 2013 17:24:50 GMT -5
Sorry, guys, I have been really busy. I won the investigate bid. I did not receive results, though. How could you have won and not gotten results? are you implying that you think you were blocked?
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Dec 20, 2013 17:33:39 GMT -5
Post by BillMc on Dec 20, 2013 17:33:39 GMT -5
No, not at all. There are a multiplicity of things that I might have done last night, but the end result and therefore the only thing of relevance was that I took no action. Very cryptic - you didn't bid; or you did bid and didn't win
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Dec 20, 2013 21:48:06 GMT -5
Post by Mahaloth on Dec 20, 2013 21:48:06 GMT -5
Sorry, guys, I have been really busy. I won the investigate bid. I did not receive results, though. How could you have won and not gotten results? are you implying that you think you were blocked? I must have been blocked. I PM'ed Pleo today to ask why I did not get results, but got no answer. And he is usually absent on weekends, so I don't know if I'll get an answer before Monday(if he answers at all).
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Dec 20, 2013 21:49:10 GMT -5
Post by Mahaloth on Dec 20, 2013 21:49:10 GMT -5
Let me add I may have tied for the investigation bid and not been the one that was randomly picked. However, it seems unlikely two people would have bid 35%. It was kind of an odd choice for a bid.
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Dec 20, 2013 23:42:42 GMT -5
Post by swammerdami on Dec 20, 2013 23:42:42 GMT -5
Let me add I may have tied for the investigation bid and not been the one that was randomly picked. However, it seems unlikely two people would have bid 35%. It was kind of an odd choice for a bid. So you didn't receive a PM stating you won your bid? I received a PM stating I won mine. Remember that the price paid is the 2nd-highest bid. It sounds like you were 2nd-highest at 35, but someone else bid more. Anyway, unless your claim is a grand concoction, it leads me to Unvote: Mahaloth
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Day Two
Dec 21, 2013 4:42:00 GMT -5
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Post by guiri on Dec 21, 2013 4:42:00 GMT -5
Action | Player | Target | Bid | Paid | Investigate | ?? | ?? | ?? | 35 | Track | ?? | ?? | ?? | 8 | Watch | ?? | ?? | ?? | 8 | Obfuscate | ?? | ?? | ?? | 3 | Kill | ?? | ?? | ?? | 40 | Protect | ?? | ?? | ?? | 9 | Block | ?? | ?? | ?? | 20 | Charge | Guiri | Guiri | 5 | 3 |
Claims: 01. Meeko (no bids) 02. Sister Coyote (? bids, no actions) 03. swammerdami (won 1 bid) 04. gnarlycharlie (no claim yet) 05. SilverJan (no wins) 06. Captain Klutz (won 1 bid) 07. Guiri (won 1 bid) 08. Texcat (no wins) 12. Storyteller (not allowed) 13. Mahaloth (no wins) 14. BillMc (won >1 bid) I think it's time to share, the longer this draws out, the less time we'll have to actually act upon any results.
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Dec 21, 2013 4:59:57 GMT -5
Post by BillMc on Dec 21, 2013 4:59:57 GMT -5
I must have been blocked. I PM'ed Pleo today to ask why I did not get results, but got no answer. And he is usually absent on weekends, so I don't know if I'll get an answer before Monday(if he answers at all). You won, got a PM saying you won, but no results? or You think you won, but got no PM from Pleo full stop?
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Dec 21, 2013 5:08:17 GMT -5
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Post by guiri on Dec 21, 2013 5:08:17 GMT -5
Yeah, I disagree with Swammer, I believe Mahaloth's confused but I think his confusion is indicative of scum, not a townie. Let's see if I can explain why. For a scumbag, winning the bid is a great feat, it doesn't matter what result, if any, is received, the important thing is that they won the bid and prevented town from winning it. For a townie, winning means nothing unless it's accompanied by a result and, even if Pleo isn't around to answer questions, I think a townie would have waited to know for sure or been a lot more cautious about the claim. Coupled with his D1 votes:
Vote: Mahaloth
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Dec 21, 2013 5:39:24 GMT -5
Post by BillMc on Dec 21, 2013 5:39:24 GMT -5
Hmmm, I may not be around too much before end of day, so I'm going to put my cards on the table
I won three bids.
Investigate, <snip> and <snip>.
...and yes, I bid 35 for Investigate, so Mahaloth may have tied and lost the coin toss, but his vagueness concerns me.
My investigation returned scum. I am not going to reveal that result just yet.
Now, there is a chance that someone used obsfuscate on my investigation target, or indeed, on me.
Hence, why I am not revealing that result, or my other results just now - as if I have been obfuscated, my other results will also be impacted.
So, does anyone want to claim that they used obfuscate and on who?
Does anyone else want to claim winning a bid and what they actually did?
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Dec 21, 2013 6:17:58 GMT -5
Post by swammerdami on Dec 21, 2013 6:17:58 GMT -5
Scum would have little if any reason to Investigate, and would certainly NOT bid as much as 35 for the privilege. Unless a 3rd Player comes forth claiming to have also bid 35 for Investigate, I assume Mahaloth is telling the truth, and therefore Town.
I bid 9 to Protect Swammerdami, and won the bid for 8.
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Dec 21, 2013 6:24:43 GMT -5
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Post by guiri on Dec 21, 2013 6:24:43 GMT -5
Scum would have little if any reason to Investigate, and would certainly NOT bid as much as 35 for the privilege. Unless a 3rd Player comes forth claiming to have also bid 35 for Investigate, I assume Mahaloth is telling the truth, and therefore Town. I bid 9 to Protect Swammerdami, and won the bid for 8. That's exactly my point, scum would bid on investigate to prevent town from using it, not to investigate someone whose alignment they already know. To Mahaloth, just winning the bid was sufficient.
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Dec 21, 2013 6:36:28 GMT -5
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Post by guiri on Dec 21, 2013 6:36:28 GMT -5
]Hence, why I am not revealing that result, or my other results just now - as if I have been obfuscated, my other results will also be impacted. I don't think obfuscate works like that.
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Dec 21, 2013 6:56:47 GMT -5
Post by swammerdami on Dec 21, 2013 6:56:47 GMT -5
Protect ... ?? ... ?? ... 9 I assume this was a typo. :-) I did bid 9, but won the bid for 8, per Pleonast's post. Scum would have little if any reason to Investigate, and would certainly NOT bid as much as 35 for the privilege. Unless a 3rd Player comes forth claiming to have also bid 35 for Investigate, I assume Mahaloth is telling the truth, and therefore Town. I bid 9 to Protect Swammerdami, and won the bid for 8. That's exactly my point, scum would bid on investigate to prevent town from using it, not to investigate someone whose alignment they already know. To Mahaloth, just winning the bid was sufficient. That makes sense. And (I'm now thinking more clearly,I hope) Scum would be willing to pay much for the privilege. But would they go as high as 35? They'd assume they win Obfuscate to protect one Scum, so Investigate would have only 2 chances in 10 of catching Scum. Maybe, since Town also gains a lot with an Investigation of Townie. So I'll put Mahaloth back on my suspect list. But use a vote to indict another suspect on grounds of low activity, D1 vote on Townie, and no redemptive info from D2 bid reveals: Vote: Texcat
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Dec 21, 2013 8:41:24 GMT -5
Post by BillMc on Dec 21, 2013 8:41:24 GMT -5
That's exactly my point, scum would bid on investigate to prevent town from using it, not to investigate someone whose alignment they already know. To Mahaloth, just winning the bid was sufficient. I believe that Mahaloth did bid on Investigate, but again, it says nothing about his alignment.
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Dec 21, 2013 8:41:24 GMT -5
Post by Mahaloth on Dec 21, 2013 8:41:24 GMT -5
Ah, I am dumb. I asked him if there is a reason I did not get results.
Pleo wrote me back and said this:
"Yes. You did not win the bid.
Remember that the numbers reported are the prices paid, which are the second-highest bids made."
Yeah, so I came in 2nd.
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Day Two
Dec 21, 2013 8:42:24 GMT -5
Post by BillMc on Dec 21, 2013 8:42:24 GMT -5
]Hence, why I am not revealing that result, or my other results just now - as if I have been obfuscated, my other results will also be impacted. I don't think obfuscate works like that. Yeah, just read that - so unless someone comes forward and names who they obfuscated, I we've got a scum in the bag.
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Dec 21, 2013 8:43:18 GMT -5
Post by Mahaloth on Dec 21, 2013 8:43:18 GMT -5
Hmmm, I may not be around too much before end of day, so I'm going to put my cards on the table I won three bids. Investigate, <snip> and <snip>. ...and yes, I bid 35 for Investigate, so Mahaloth may have tied and lost the coin toss, but his vagueness concerns me. My investigation returned scum. I am not going to reveal that result just yet. Now, there is a chance that someone used obsfuscate on my investigation target, or indeed, on me. Hence, why I am not revealing that result, or my other results just now - as if I have been obfuscated, my other results will also be impacted. So, does anyone want to claim that they used obfuscate and on who? Does anyone else want to claim winning a bid and what they actually did? 1.Why not tell us who you found out is scum? 2. My PM from Pleo states the second highest total was shown and you claim to bid the same as me. Vote BillMC
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Dec 21, 2013 9:20:18 GMT -5
Post by BillMc on Dec 21, 2013 9:20:18 GMT -5
1. I've made that clear. I'm waiting for whoever won obfuscate to come forward and say who
2. Read the rules
It was immediately clear to me that there had been a tie when Pleo showed 35 as the winning bid. I'm now somewhat suspicious of your reaction to this.
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Day Two
Dec 21, 2013 11:13:55 GMT -5
Post by texcat on Dec 21, 2013 11:13:55 GMT -5
So I'll put Mahaloth back on my suspect list. But use a vote to indict another suspect on grounds of low activity, D1 vote on Townie, and no redemptive info from D2 bid reveals: Vote: TexcatHuh? You are voting me for low activity? Surely there are others with lower activity. You are voting me for voting Chameleon? You also voted Chameleon, and you voted for townie Patricia. Oh wait, you are voting me because I didn't win any bids??
We have 6 powers claimed. BillMc with Investigate and 2 others, Guiri with Charge, Swammer with Protect, and CaptK with something. Gnarly is the only unknown with 2 powers unaccounted for. I'm not sure how long we want to wait for the obsfucate claim.
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Dec 21, 2013 11:26:38 GMT -5
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Post by guiri on Dec 21, 2013 11:26:38 GMT -5
^ Especially where there are two dead players who may have won one or more bids.
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Dec 21, 2013 11:38:31 GMT -5
Post by BillMc on Dec 21, 2013 11:38:31 GMT -5
^ Especially where there are two dead players who may have won one or more bids. Well with both dead being town, unlikely they would have went with obfuscate. I guess I am not surprised that folk would prefer that I hand the town a probable scum on a plate and absolve folk of any real scum hunting. So be it. I investigated Storyteller - who showed as scum. I tracked Swammer - who visited himself (as he said). I watched Klutz - and I'll hold onto that result for now. Vote: Storyteller
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Dec 21, 2013 12:18:35 GMT -5
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Post by guiri on Dec 21, 2013 12:18:35 GMT -5
Well with both dead being town, unlikely they would have went with obfuscate. Well, I don't know about you but I originally went down the "bid something reasonable on everything power" strategy but then recanted when I figured my chances of surviving the Night were significantly reduced... As for the scum result on story, well done. Vote: Storyteller
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Dec 21, 2013 12:21:59 GMT -5
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Post by guiri on Dec 21, 2013 12:21:59 GMT -5
Action | Player | Target | Bid | Paid | Investigate | BillMc | Storyteller | ?? | 35 | Track | BillMc | Swammer | ?? | 8 | Watch | BillMc | CaptainKlutz | ?? | 8 | Obfuscate | ?? | ?? | ?? | 3 | Kill | ?? | ?? | ?? | 40 | Protect | Swammer | Swammer | 9 | 8 | Block | ?? | ?? | ?? | 20 | Charge | Guiri | Guiri | 5 | 3 |
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Dec 21, 2013 12:45:26 GMT -5
Post by swammerdami on Dec 21, 2013 12:45:26 GMT -5
Vote: Storyteller
Unvote: Texcat
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Day Two
Dec 21, 2013 12:48:49 GMT -5
Post by Meeko on Dec 21, 2013 12:48:49 GMT -5
^ Especially where there are two dead players who may have won one or more bids. Well with both dead being town, unlikely they would have went with obfuscate. I guess I am not surprised that folk would prefer that I hand the town a probable scum on a plate and absolve folk of any real scum hunting. So be it. I investigated Storyteller - who showed as scum. I tracked Swammer - who visited himself (as he said). I watched Klutz - and I'll hold onto that result for now. Vote: Storyteller Vote: StorytellerIf you aren't surprised by it, why do you feel the need to say it? It's kinda like saying "it goes without saying" and then saying it.
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