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Post by FruitAndGarbage on Jan 26, 2014 2:41:39 GMT -5
Despite the usage of terms like day and night, there was no real cycle in the underground prison. Grogginess was rampant throughout communists and capitalists alike, compounded by the fact that most were so busy with their own clandestine activities that sleep was precluded mostly or entirely. The new "morning" was an affair of silent consensus, and it was a consensus that took some time to come to. Men staggered into the conference room cum execution chamber over a period of what seemed like hours; eventually, though, it became undeniable that some of their number weren't just late. More of their number than most had expected.
The search parties set out, although frankly there was too little trust among the trapped for any real groups to form. Pairs and individuals spread out, breaking off and recombining and occasionally taking a minute to doze against a darkened doorframe. Even with little cohesion and less coherence, the first body was found quickly. Enough had expected this that it was the first thing they thought to check.
texcat was Ninad Korrapati. Hailing from India, he had little stake in the conflicts between the Eastern and Western Blocs. He had intended to speak at the conference in the hopes of showing the leaders of nations that their not global in scale, but were global in consequence. He had no affiliation with either faction, and simply hoped to make his point. When he became trapped in what was essentially a microcosm of the war he hoped to allay, he decided to fade into the background and observe. He was a third-party-aligned watcher.
It was a tragedy, certainly. Or at least rather sad. Ironic in a twisted little way. Even so, most present were simply relieved that it wasn't one of theirs, regardless of which "theirs" was thinking it. The loss of any life was sad, of course, but right now... Well, all that was important was that the right ones were lost. Few would mourn Ninad until after the situation resolved itself. If then.
But he wasn't the only one who hadn't shown his face. There were still seats unfilled, and that meant more information to be had, certainty to be gained through blood. It took much longer to find the second missing party, so much so that many had begun to optimistically hope that someone had discovered a way out. The group was about to give up the search when someone almost-literally stumbled over the body.
gnarlycharlie was Efstathios Floros, a citizen of Greece. Ex-police, then ex-military, he had eventually become a security expert and bodyguard. He had been working in that capacity at the NATO summit when he'd been dragged into this situation. He wasn't a violent man anymore and had seen more than enough atrocity in his life, so rather than fight back he leaned on his experience as a detective to contribute to the cause. He was able to analyze people's possessions and movements and determine what they were capable of. He was a town-aligned role-cop.
Everyone made a great show of being upset that whatever he'd known hadn't been passed on, at least not explicitly. Each man suspected that he was probably the only one who meant it genuinely; certainly there were those who were mentally celebrating such a dangerously-informed foe's death. Such was pointed out, and the discussion turned once again to who it was and how to root them out. The knife gleamed in the darkness invitingly.
Day 3 begins now and ends on Thursday, January 30th at 8:00PM PST.
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Post by Captain Klutz on Jan 26, 2014 3:30:48 GMT -5
Gnarly was a cop, so Colby is now confirmed.
Texcat was third party. It's a bit nasty to make an investigator third party, as they can't claim without making themselves a scum target. I'm curious as to what her wincon might have been.
It's a pity that texcat didn't reveal the names of the other 2 people who visited Colby. I suspect that she didn't know, as she suggested that Mahaloth was a scum blocker who targeted Colby, which we now know wasn't the case.
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Post by gnarlycharlie on Jan 26, 2014 3:51:46 GMT -5
as predicted. go town!
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Post by BillMc on Jan 26, 2014 8:33:59 GMT -5
Schnell! Schnell! Kartoffelkopf!
As I mentioned previously, my PM aludes to their being a defector/traitor in the town.
That defector is West German.....
....and last night I received information that that person is Herr Storyteller.
Vote: Storyteller
I'm surprised that given the information disclosed yesterday, that no one protected texcat or gnarly.
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Post by storyteller0910 on Jan 26, 2014 9:03:02 GMT -5
That is a flat lie. If the Town decides to lynch me in place of BillMc, lynch him next.
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Post by storyteller0910 on Jan 26, 2014 9:03:16 GMT -5
vote BillMc
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Post by storyteller0910 on Jan 26, 2014 9:14:53 GMT -5
OK, having gotten over my initial outrage, I find myself puzzled by this move. Bill's statement is flatly untrue. There's not even a bit of space for interpretation or wiggle room; I just combed my PM very carefully and find no hint of anything that might even suggest traitor/defector. This leaves three possibilities:
1. Bill is straight-up lying and knows it: Obviously my first conclusion, but if it's the case, then why? I have a power, but it is not terribly useful and certainly not worth a kamikaze attack by Scum, even if they know what it is somehow. Even if this move successfully results in my mislynch, it will probably result in Bill being either Night killed or lynched on Night Three/Day Four. The only way the move makes a lot of sense is if I am Bill's unique target and he is Scum or even PFK, who just needs me dead to win. This is entirely possible.
2. Bill has been misled: This can be resolved simply enough. @bill - do you consider there to be any room for error in your findings? Or will you claim them to be 100% certain?
3. There is something about my role that I don't know: This is possible. But if I'm a traitor/defector, it seems profoundly unlikely and bordering on bastard-moddish, because I've never been told. There's not even anything in the role color to hint at the possibility.
Interesting.
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Post by patricia on Jan 26, 2014 9:53:17 GMT -5
So after two deaths last night, alas, now we have to more calling each other out. So now town has to sort out who is lying. In the past I usually go with whoever speaks out first but in this case story makes points as well, Bill maybe we have more than one West German? I'm going to hold off a vote until Bill and others have a chance to weight in, the sliver lining in all this is it looks like we finally have a scum under pressure.
question to bill did your information say Story is a spy or that Story is West German and the spy is West German?
story your case was good until number 3 that sounds like a scum trying to place blame on the mod when they get called out. I don't buy you don't know you are a spy and bringing that up makes you look scummy
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Post by storyteller0910 on Jan 26, 2014 10:14:20 GMT -5
I'm not much concerned at this stage with whether I sound scummy, Patricia. If I am lynched, my flip will resolve that issue quite easily, and eyes will turn to BillMc for his incorrect accusation. I think it's important to consider all the possible ways that we could have arrived here (though "Bill is lying" or "Bill is wrong" are certainly the leaders going into the home stretch.
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Post by BillMc on Jan 26, 2014 10:29:13 GMT -5
I'm not denying that I need Herr Storyteller dead as part of my town wincon.
From my role pm:
From my investigation of storyteller:
So Story is denying all of it - so he's saying he isn't west german.
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Post by swammerdami on Jan 26, 2014 10:33:48 GMT -5
I still think we should reveal our special targets. BillMc, assuming his target is a West German, would have had to have revealed that or risked being caught in a lie.
Story, do you admit that you're West German?
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Post by Colby11 on Jan 26, 2014 11:05:38 GMT -5
Schnell! Schnell! Kartoffelkopf! As I mentioned previously, my PM aludes to their being a defector/traitor in the town. That defector is West German..... ....and last night I received information that that person is Herr Storyteller. Vote: Storyteller I'm surprised that given the information disclosed yesterday, that no one protected texcat or gnarly. I tried to protect Texcat, but I was roleblocked again. Going back to figure out who in the hell claimed to be a Roleblocker. And let this be a lesson to all- reveal all you know if you think you may be turning up dead. Especially if you know that there is a Roleblocker or two out there......
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Post by Colby11 on Jan 26, 2014 11:07:59 GMT -5
Like Mr. Meeko, who is a Roleblocker and claimed to visit me last night via Texcat
He dies. Today.
Vote: Vote Meeko
Oh, and you're still awesome Meeko.... Even though you're scum
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Post by Paranoia on Jan 26, 2014 11:25:45 GMT -5
Gnarly was a cop, so Colby is now confirmed. Texcat was third party. It's a bit nasty to make an investigator third party, as they can't claim without making themselves a scum target. I'm curious as to what her wincon might have been. It's a pity that texcat didn't reveal the names of the other 2 people who visited Colby. I suspect that she didn't know, as she suggested that Mahaloth was a scum blocker who targeted Colby, which we now know wasn't the case. Rolecop is different from alignment cop, but given that Colby has been roleblocked two nights now I think that's a clear enough indicator. So here's a question: from Texcat's reveal, did anyone need her dead? Also yeah I think Vote: meeko is our best option today, and that we should probably investigate into the billmc/storyteller pair. Investigate: Storyteller
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Post by BillMc on Jan 26, 2014 11:45:04 GMT -5
Like Mr. Meeko, who is a Roleblocker and claimed to visit me last night via Texcat He dies. Today. Vote: Vote Meeko Oh, and you're still awesome Meeko.... Even though you're scum I'll also add that my nationality investigation on N1 was blocked.
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Post by storyteller0910 on Jan 26, 2014 12:12:44 GMT -5
This turns out to be much sillier than I'd realized. I am indeed West German. Just not any kind of traitor or defector. Bill's just over-reaching a bit.
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Post by patricia on Jan 26, 2014 12:13:46 GMT -5
I agree Meeko needs to go today Vote: meeko and we need information from bill and story
investigate story
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Post by patricia on Jan 26, 2014 12:14:47 GMT -5
well that is hard to read lets try that again Investigate story
sorry to everyone's eyes
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Post by patricia on Jan 26, 2014 12:15:21 GMT -5
how do you bold things???
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Post by BillMc on Jan 26, 2014 13:04:33 GMT -5
This turns out to be much sillier than I'd realized. I am indeed West German. Just not any kind of traitor or defector. Bill's just over-reaching a bit. So a flat lie to admitting you are the west german. And you are now accusing the mod of lying.
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Post by storyteller0910 on Jan 26, 2014 13:11:13 GMT -5
This turns out to be much sillier than I'd realized. I am indeed West German. Just not any kind of traitor or defector. Bill's just over-reaching a bit. So a flat lie to admitting you are the west german. And you are now accusing the mod of lying. You're trying too hard. Did the mod tell you I was the person you are seeking, as you claimed in your first post? Yes or no?
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Post by FruitAndGarbage on Jan 26, 2014 13:11:23 GMT -5
You can bold things either by clicking the B button on the reply options or with the following code (replacing curly braces with square brackets): {b}Bold Text Here{/b}
Votes: Meeko [3]: Colby11 (12), Paranoia (13), patricia (16) storyteller0910 [1]: BillMc (3) BillMc [1]: storyteller0910 (5)
Investigations: storyteller0910 [2]: Paranoia (13), patricia (16)
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Post by swammerdami on Jan 26, 2014 14:27:41 GMT -5
I'm guessing that Bill vs Story is a Town-on-Town misunderstanding. The two top Scum suspects are clear to me:
Vote: dizzymrslizzie
Investigate: Suburban Plankton
Lizzie has posted very little; one of her most substantial posts was something like "I'm not afraid of being investigated." I've previously indicted Planks. (I'd be happy to reverse my Vote and Investigate targets.)
Another very low poster is Pleonast, but he has an excuse. Anyway, I get a definite Town read from his one substantial post.
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Post by BillMc on Jan 26, 2014 15:48:44 GMT -5
So a flat lie to admitting you are the west german. And you are now accusing the mod of lying. You're trying too hard. Did the mod tell you I was the person you are seeking, as you claimed in your first post? Yes or no? Ja Wohl!
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Post by storyteller0910 on Jan 26, 2014 16:13:11 GMT -5
You're trying too hard. Did the mod tell you I was the person you are seeking, as you claimed in your first post? Yes or no? Ja Wohl! That's... really surprising, given that it is not true. If you claim that the mod has directly informed you that I am the West German defector you seek, than either you're lying or the mod is. As I regard the latter as less than likely, my vote remains. I'll post my role pm tonight when I get home.
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Post by storyteller0910 on Jan 26, 2014 16:19:56 GMT -5
And your answer is not consistent with your posted investigation result, in which you were informed that I am West German (as I am), but not that I am the person you seek. Was this in a separate correspondence, then?
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Post by dizzymrslizzy on Jan 26, 2014 18:02:11 GMT -5
I also think that we have some colorful story going on here. My Role PM describes my extra target as someone who "I" beleive is very dangerous and needs to be stopped. It may be just color fiction that the West German is a traitor making BOTH of you correct.
If my extra target is a Town player then it is just colorful color. KWIM?
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Post by dizzymrslizzy on Jan 26, 2014 18:05:01 GMT -5
And since Swammer is hot to trot for me. I have no issue claiming.
I'm a Town Tracker.
N1 I tracked Sister Coyote, and of course she died. I tracked her because she likes to hold her cards close to her chest so I wanted more information on her.
N2 I tracked Meeko, and found out that he did not act last night. Unless his block is untrackable, then Meeko did not block Colby. Although the color of my reveal is interesting...
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Post by Captain Klutz on Jan 26, 2014 20:38:10 GMT -5
BillMc, from what you have posted it is not at all clear that storyteller is the town traitor.
Do you have specific information that there is only one West German? You have quoted a bit about "... the West German traitor...", but that just means there is one West German traitor, rather than one West German.
In addition, is killing the traitor an extra wincon for you? I would have thought that a town traitor was a threat to town and so is part of the town wincon. Are you town?
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Post by Captain Klutz on Jan 26, 2014 20:49:01 GMT -5
Following today's reveal, I have to claim.
I am a town-aligned alignment-cop
On Night 1, I investigated gnarlycharlie. I got the result: "You have determined that gnarlycharlie is aligned with the mafia."
On Night 1, I investigated dizzymrslizzy. I got the result: "You have determined that dizzymrslizzy is aligned with the mafia."
The result on gnarlycharlie is wrong, so I am not a standard cop. (yes, I have checked with the mod. Reply was "Your results were the results you were supposed to receive. gnarlycharlie's reveal was what it was supposed to be.")
There are various types of cops. For example: - always right (the standard cop) - always wrong - always gets guilty - always gets innocent - gets random results
It wouldn't surprise me if we have various cops in this game, of various types.
My death should reveal what type of cop I am. Until then, my results are not actionable.
Any other cops, don't assume that you are receiving accurate results. And if you have received any wrong results then I suggest claiming so that your results can be properly interpreted after you die.
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