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Post by Death By Irony on Dec 7, 2007 8:12:29 GMT -5
Sorry for not replying sooner, Roosh: I only skimmed the first post of the Night thread to see the reveal on Pleonast's role.
As far as the vote for you yesterDay, my apologies as well: I was posting off my memories and gotten several events conflated. If I have the time to reread the thread over the weekend, I will do so as soon as I can. (Unfortunately the game board is blocked by the school's server, and I kind of need to spend most of today IRL there to work on projects.)
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Post by Drain Bead on Dec 7, 2007 8:43:55 GMT -5
CatInASuit, I have no idea what you're talking about. The point I was responding to on Day Three was this comment that you made in post 57 of Day 3:
You also asked again, in post 77:
Now...I read through Night One, and here are all my posts, in their entirety:
Reply 6:
Reply 27:
Reply 38:
Reply 40:
Reply 52:
So that was Night One. On morning 2, CIAS1 turned up dead. Now where did I say I would insta-vote for anyone before CIAS is dead? Seeing as this appears to be a good 75% of your argument against me (the other part being that I "know too much" about night kills, which was never adequately explained), I think you're just trying to smudge me and hope nobody notices that you're completely making it up.
Now, on Day Two, I say:
That was in reference, obviously, to CIAS1, who had just died over the night. That was the person who I ended Day 1 voting for, and who was a leading candidate for lynch.
Then DIOMEDES said something about his insta-vote for Night 1 changing (Post 4, where my quote before was Post 2). Could it be you're getting us confused, since our names start with D and those posts were close together? Possibly, I suppose. But that would be awfully scummy of you.
Night Two, I mention a couple of times that my vote nearly changed. I didn't specifically say that I had a vote lined up, but I assumed when you mentioned my insta-vote you were referring to something from the previous night. It turns out you were just putting words in my mouth so you could set me up later. Fabulous.
HOS CIAS2
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Post by CatInASuit on Dec 7, 2007 10:09:59 GMT -5
CatInASuit, I have no idea what you're talking about. The point I was responding to on Day Three was this comment that you made in post 57 of Day 3: You also asked again, in post 77: So that was Night One. On morning 2, CIAS1 turned up dead. Now where did I say I would insta-vote for anyone before CIAS is dead? Seeing as this appears to be a good 75% of your argument against me (the other part being that I "know too much" about night kills, which was never adequately explained), I think you're just trying to smudge me and hope nobody notices that you're completely making it up. Now, on Day Two, I say: That was in reference, obviously, to CIAS1, who had just died over the night. That was the person who I ended Day 1 voting for, and who was a leading candidate for lynch. Then DIOMEDES said something about his insta-vote for Night 1 changing (Post 4, where my quote before was Post 2). Could it be you're getting us confused, since our names start with D and those posts were close together? Possibly, I suppose. But that would be awfully scummy of you. Night Two, I mention a couple of times that my vote nearly changed. I didn't specifically say that I had a vote lined up, but I assumed when you mentioned my insta-vote you were referring to something from the previous night. It turns out you were just putting words in my mouth so you could set me up later. Fabulous. I have put no words into your mouth and I have not confused you or diomedes. Your assumption is yours to clarify and not to start throwing suspicion around, because that would be scummy. My original post was this. 3. As for Diomedes, he has effectively shut down conversation for the day as people wait for his magic bag.
Of course, I see that no-one has asked drainbead the same question as she had said she had her insta-vote ready and lined up. It was marked as being part of my Day 1/Night 1/Day 2 analysis and refers to the post #2 and #4 by you and diomedes respectively at the start of Day 2. Yes, diomedes is the person who used the term insta-vote, but the comment was aimed at the two people at the time who said they either had a vote ready or had a leading suspect to vote for. Your comment being "since my leading candidate for scum is now dead, and wasn't scum"Diomedes comment being "This may make my insta-vote change somewhat. "I did not ask you to comment on this, you actually came forward yourself and said the you were going to insta-vote for Pleonast. Given the frame of reference, I was expecting an answer of CIAS v.1. Would you care to comment on the difference please? As for you knowing too much about night kills. your comments in Day 2 #17 really pinged my scumdar. Why would someone go out of their way to say that a character was definitely killed by a particular role? I also note you have decided to evade the question of your voting pattern. IMHO, that's three things I can find against you. I await your response.
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Post by sinjin on Dec 7, 2007 12:52:48 GMT -5
I'm not as sure on the kassia angle. Couldn't Pleo have just said straight out in his final post "Kassia is guaranteed scum" without any sort of claim or explanation, knowing (or at least hoping) that his role reveal would back up the statement? Or would that have been still counted under the restriction on claiming? Or would that have been still counted under the restriction on claiming?I would like a clarification on this too so I made it a little larger so story could see it.
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Post by Drain Bead on Dec 7, 2007 12:58:51 GMT -5
Where did I say I had my insta-vote ready and lined up for Day Two, before CIAS1 was already dead? I never said that, as I just showed you EVERY post I made that Night. I can't respond to an "analysis" that is completely wrong. I never said I had a vote ready--in fact, I said the COMPLETE OPPOSITE of that. I said that I had NO vote ready, because my leading candidate (CIAS) was now dead and was not scum.
As for my voting record...what of it? I've been wrong a lot, and so have a lot of other people. Let's see....
Last vote count of Day One, with sinjin's final vote added:
Looking at people who voted for known town, we have: atarus, Hal Briston, Pleonast, Parzival, NAF, me, hockey monkey, EoB, Cookies, Kat, Yattara, zeriel, DBI, sinjin, kassia, SR, Roosh, and Diomedes. Not a very good track record.
Day 2 Final Vote Count (courtesy of Roosh):
Voting for known town: SR, diggitcamera, sinjin, Roosh, zuma2, Diomedes (not even counting his self-vote), me, atarus, Parzival, Cookies, kassia, Tragic, EoB, DBI. Again, given the three non-voters, a horrid track record.
And then, the final vote count of Day 3, courtesy of Roosh but fixing his mistake with Pleonast:
Voting for known town: zuma 2.0, sinjin, Roosh, SR, me, you, kassia, Kat 2.0, CK, diggitcamera
I voted for known town all three days, but only for the lynchee two of them. The first day I voted for your first incarnation, who did not make it through the next Night. I said I thought you were vigged because I thought you were acting scummy, and had I been a vig, I would have killed you myself. I also thought it would have been stupid for the scum to off a leading candidate--why not just wait for the town to do it for them? I suppose you could have also been SKed, but the vig seemed the most likely possibility, given how these games have gone in the past. Oddly enough kassia has also voted for two out of three lynchees, but I don't see you commenting on her voting record. Or Cookies. Or DBI. Or sinjin. Or, I suppose if you want to get technical, Kat (since Yattara and her previous incarnation both voted for zuma Day One and she voted for Pleonast yesterday). All of those people voted in similar manners as I did.
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Post by Drain Bead on Dec 7, 2007 13:05:41 GMT -5
Oh, and to add to the analysis...those who have voted for known town all 3 days include: sinjin, Roosh, me, kassia, and diggit, who I inexplicably left off my first "voted for known town" list on Day One. There may very well have been more were it not for the fact that three people did not vote on Day Two. I should probably count zeriel among that list as well, since he said he wasn't voting but would have been voting for Diomedes anyway.
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Post by CatInASuit on Dec 7, 2007 13:12:02 GMT -5
Talk about completely missing the point of my posts.
Going through it slowly again:
Part 1: your insta-vote
Day 3 #63. You said that Pleonast was your insta-vote for the day.
In response to
Day 3 #57 where I said the following
3. As for Diomedes, he has effectively shut down conversation for the day as people wait for his magic bagTM.
Of course, I see that no-one has asked drainbead the same question as she had said she had her insta-vote ready and lined up.
Which was a reference to
Day 2 #2 drainbead: since my leading candidate for scum is now dead, and wasn't scum and Day 2 #4 diomedes: This may make my insta-vote change somewhat.
Your expected insta-vote for the day was CIAS v.1, which is contradictory to your given answer as you had found him the scummiest, but as you stated he was dead.
If you ASSUMED I was referring to Day 3, it would be understandable.
Are you?
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Post by CatInASuit on Dec 7, 2007 13:19:10 GMT -5
Part the second: Voting patterns.
Day 1: Second vote on NAF1138 Day 1: Second vote on CIAS Day 2: Second vote on Diomedes Day 3: Fifth vote on Pleonast Day 4: Second vote on kassia
Its how you voted that looks really scummy to me.
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Post by Parzival on Dec 7, 2007 13:56:52 GMT -5
In an attempt to figure out what happened with Pleonast after his second investigation, here's a detailed summary of his posts from Night 2 to Day 3. There weren't that many. N2.29 - Comes out against Cookies's "no Governors in tiebreaks" plan. States that the Governor needs to be able to vote, but also needs to be held accountable for all actions performed by them. 3.38 - Mentions (after Parzival's analysis) "I definitely want to take look at zeriel." Defends his non-inclusion of himself in analysis. "If I used info only I have, it wouldn't be transparent." - [In hindsight this makes sense but also looks pretty scummy.]
Quotes zuma in this post, and says that his quick jump on him seems like a scummy ploy.
3.44 - "I'm tempted to advocate my own lynching ... But that would likely start witch hunts against those piling on me--and I don't think they're scum, merely misguided Colonists."
3.104 - quotes Roosh's voting list. Includes post counts from the Days, and makes comparisons. Then provides analysis on three people - kassia (+4/-1/~3), diggitcamara(+3/-0/~4), and zeriel(+4/-4/~8). Votes kassia put says he may change if no else goes along.
3.128 - Complains about lack of posting/voting. Lists the "slackers" (low post count + no vote) - Kassia, diggitcamara, Kat 2.0, Tragic. Asks Santo Rugger if he thinks information from his death will be more of value than his power.
3.163 - "last words"
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Post by Drain Bead on Dec 7, 2007 14:14:33 GMT -5
Talk about completely missing the point of my posts. Going through it slowly again: Part 1: your insta-vote Day 3 #63. You said that Pleonast was your insta-vote for the day. In response to Day 3 #57 where I said the following 3. As for Diomedes, he has effectively shut down conversation for the day as people wait for his magic bagTM.
Of course, I see that no-one has asked drainbead the same question as she had said she had her insta-vote ready and lined up.Which was a reference to Day 2 #2 drainbead: since my leading candidate for scum is now dead, and wasn't scumand Day 2 #4 diomedes: This may make my insta-vote change somewhat.Your expected insta-vote for the day was CIAS v.1, which is contradictory to your given answer as you had found him the scummiest, but as you stated he was dead. If you ASSUMED I was referring to Day 3, it would be understandable. Are you? Yes, I did assume you were referring to Day 3 when you made that post. I guess the "insta-vote" language threw me off as to what day you were referring to. I thought you were referring to a comment I made about Pleonast during the Night before.
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Post by Drain Bead on Dec 7, 2007 14:19:56 GMT -5
Part the second: Voting patterns. Day 1: Second vote on NAF1138 Day 1: Second vote on CIASDay 2: Second vote on DiomedesDay 3: Fifth vote on PleonastDay 4: Second vote on kassiaIts how you voted that looks really scummy to me. It sure is an odd coincidence that I was the second vote on so many people. FWIW, I would have been the first vote on kassia, but I was afk doing Christmas shopping with my MIL last night. I think it was relatively apparent where my vote would go Today based on discussion from the Night before. My vote for kassia should shock absolutely nobody. As for the second vote on NAF, is that counting the vote that Hal Briston made before the governor race had even been decided? If so, you really should probably consider me the first vote on NAF. It's hard to fault me for voting second behind an eventually-subbed-out lurker who had the first vote in the entire game by a long shot. If you give me the benefit of the doubt on those, it's two first votes, two second votes, and a fifth vote. Not really as pretty a pattern as before.
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Post by RoOsh on Dec 7, 2007 14:31:17 GMT -5
I have a better idea. Considering I think you are scum, why don't you lookup where I asked the question and convince me otherwise. It is pretty easy to find, but I want to hear your version without my assistance. I look forward to your explanation. Ooh BURN! That line actually brought a smile to my face. Actually, CAIS, I kinda agree with you on some things, because right now there are two people who stand out to me. One is Dotchan... for her incredibly lax playing style (Post30: She admitted that she forgot what was going on in the game and just VOTED ME for no good damn reason....) -that's the sorta thing that makes me sigh and shake my head in frustration. But it's also Dotchan. Who is the one player I've kinda come to expect this sorta crap play from.... And as much as I want her dead in every past game, this one I'm gonna wait. But I'm really watching her. Cuz jeebus, Dotchan... Words just fail me.... (-_-) The second person I had on my list actually: was Drainbead. She was one of the people who had been going after me the last Day, and I found her arguments vs. me to be just terrible. If I were to vote for her, it'd be for her twisting of my posts around, and trying to get me fucked up yesterDay by just making up stuff. I felt like she was really out to get me, and Not sure why. Today she cooled off i felt, but then that "One in the bush" line again popped up and she's just on my radar again. Because I know what I am, and I know what I ain't. So her going after me just makes me a bit distressed. I'm paying close attention to her defending of herself though. And it's kinda hit and miss. But I'm kinda biased against her, so I don't want to vote simply because "She's been relentless after me", as that's just an OMGUS vote, and If the pleonast business has taught me something, it's that I can't keep doing what i've been doing. But you currently hit the nail right on the head, Cat, though by means of a different Hammer (your focusing on her Day 1-3 speeches). Something about her comments just strike me as odd and that's from her attacks against me on Day three. I'm in no mood to get into a shouting match with her again. I think i've yelled too much, and just dicked up right now. (-_-) So I'm going to play a bit quieter now. But my current Fos list is Drainbead at the top. Dotchan somewhere in the middle, and one or two others who I want to remain nameless right now, until they start posting and I can see what they're up to (because they pinged me on Day 3). I also need to review the Pleonast Posts. :sigh: So expect this to take a while... unless someone mentions my name. I'll respond then as soon as I can.
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Post by Parzival on Dec 7, 2007 15:00:46 GMT -5
Here are my own thoughts on what Pleonast did.
He was a combination cop and Vig. This is incredibly powerful, since unless he falls under suspicion, he never needs to breadcrumb. He can take out scum as he finds them. Obviously this was mitigated by the replicant NK resistance and role-claim restriction, but I'll add my own speculation to it. He almost certainly had to attempt a kill each Night. Making kills optional makes that role almost game-breakingly powerful.
I'm also inclined to believe the death color text did matter and (based on his vote) he killed Kat Night 1.
What I get from this is that he probably missed his target Night 2 and did not kill mhaye.
So, on Day 2 he investigated someone (call them 'X'). I don't know if it was confirmed, but I believe (based on the setting) he would read someone as either 'replicant' or 'human', without knowing alignment. The results would be :
1. X is a replicant (presumably scum). 2. X is human. 3. No result (this may not be on option, but I won't rule it out).
Case #1 ( X is replicant): Obviously X would be his target for that Night. Due to Rep-res., he missed. During the Day, there's no need to make much of a fuss about it, as nothing will attract as much attention from the scum as suddenly seeming to know who they are. A tepid vote might be applied if it can be otherwise supported.
Possible candidate : kassia.
However, by the time of the 'last words' post he almost certainly would have found a way to, at the very least, say something like "hey check this (or these) people out, I really do find them fishy."
This combined with the inherent unlikelihood of finding scum makes me believe this did not happen.
Case #2 (X is human). The target for that night would naturally be somebody else he found suspicious. A non-kill could mean several things, but would probably raise suspicion and be a target for Day 3 investigation.
If X was previously mentioned or voted for, a mild backing off would be warranted. Otherwise, it's probably best to simply completely ignore them. Broadcasting privileged information can get you killed. The last thing you would do is vote or throw suspicion on them.
Mentioning them in the 'last words' speech might be too out of the blue to hold on to a faint hope of surviving, so it's not too surprising if nobody besides Santo showed up there. It's hard to know for certain.
Unlikely candidate : kassia, zuma.
Possible candidates : sinjin,Roosh - Roosh was more consistently on Pleo's case, but didn't get suspected. I also wonder about the "misguided Colonists" quote. In 3.104 kassia and diggitcamara were analyzed and they'd both voted for him, so the phrase might mean one or more of Diomedes, Santo Rugger, sinjin, and Roosh (who had all voted for him).
It's too flimsy to make a case for either of them being confirmed colony, but I'm calling it a tiny point in their favor for now.
Case #3 is still on the table, since there isn't much else in the way of breadcrumbs. But for these purposes it doesn't change much (except weaken the "Roosh/Sinjin may be town" case).
The main conclusion I do draw : kassia was probably not investigated Day 2.
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Post by CatInASuit on Dec 7, 2007 15:35:43 GMT -5
More post count analysis, long, boring, but ultimately may be informative.
Detail as followed
Day voted: Person voted for - number of votes on person at time
Atarus: Day 1: mhaye - 1 Day 2: diomedes - 1 Day 3: death by irony - 1
Captain Klutz Day 1: zeriel - 3 Day 2: DeathyByIrony - 1 Day 3: DeathyByIrony - 1 Day 3: Pleonast - 9
CatinaSuit v1 Day 1: zeriel - 1
CatinaSuit v2 (Hal Briston) Day 1: NAF1138 - 1 Day 3: Pleonast - 6 Day 4: drainbead - 1
Cookies Day 1: zuma - 3 Day 2: diomedes - 4 Day 3: Death by Irony - 3
DeathByIrony Day 1: Santo Rugger - 1 Day 1: zuma - 1 Day 1: zuma - 5 Day 2: diomedes - 8 Day 3: Roosh - 1
diggitcamara Day 1: pleonast - 4 Day 2: pleonast - 2 Day 3: pleonast - 10
diomedes Day 1: Pleonast - 1 Day 1: zuma - 5 Day 1: NAF1138 - 5 Day 1: Pleonast - 6 Day 2: Pleonast - 6
drainbead Day 1: NAF1138 - 2 Day 1: NAF1138 - 5 Day 1: CIAS v.1 - 2 Day 2: Diomedes - 2 Day 3: Pleonast - 5 Day 4: kassia - 2
episodeofblonde Day 1: zuma - 2 Day 1: pleonast - 5 Day 1: CIAS v.1 - 4 Day 2: diomedes- 7 Day 3: zeriel - 2 Day 3: Roosh - 2
hockeyMonkey Day 1: Pleonast - 2 Day 1: CIAS v.1 - 4
mHaye Day 1: zeriel - 3 Day 2: zeriel - 1
kassia Day 1: pleonast - 3 Day 2: diomedes - 5 Day 3: Pleonast - 7
Kat v1 Day 1: zuma - 4
Kat v2 (Yattara) Day 1: zuma - 6 Day 3: Pleonast - 8
NAF1138 Day 1: Parzival - 1 Day 1: Pleonast - 5 Day 1: CIAS v.1 - 1 Day 2: Kassia - 1 Day 3: Santo Rugger - 1 Day 3: sinjin - 2
Parzival Day 1: Pleonast - 4 Day 1: Kat - 2 Day 2: diomedes - 3 Day 3: zeriel - 1
Pleonast Day 1: Kat - 1 Day 2: mhaye - 1 Day 2: Kassia - 2 Day 3: Kassia - 1
roosh Day 1: Pleonast - 2 Day 1: NAF1138 - 4 Day 1: Pleonast - 5 Day 2: Pleonast - 4 Day 3: Sinjin - 1 Day 3: Pleonast - 3
santo rugger Day 1: zeriel - 2 Day 1: Pleonast - 3 Day 2: Pleonast - 1 Day 3: Pleonast - 4
sinjin Day 1: NAF1138 - 3 Day 1: zuma - 6 Day 2: pleonast - 3 Day 3: pleonast - 2
Tragic (hazelnutcoffee) Day 2: diomedes - 6 Day 3: zeriel - 2
zeriel Day 1: mhaye - 2 Day 2: CIAS v.1 - 2 Day 1: zuma - 4 Day 3: sinjin - 2 Day 4: kassia - 1
zuma v1 Day 1: zeriel - 1 Day 1: roosh - 1 Day 1: zeriel - 1 Day 1: roosh - 1 Day 1: kassia - 1
zuma v2 (Blaster Master) Day 2: Pleonast - 5 Day 3: Pleonast - 1
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Post by CatInASuit on Dec 7, 2007 15:44:51 GMT -5
Part the second: Voting patterns. Day 1: Second vote on NAF1138 Day 1: Second vote on CIASDay 2: Second vote on DiomedesDay 3: Fifth vote on PleonastDay 4: Second vote on kassiaIts how you voted that looks really scummy to me. It sure is an odd coincidence that I was the second vote on so many people. FWIW, I would have been the first vote on kassia, but I was afk doing Christmas shopping with my MIL last night. I think it was relatively apparent where my vote would go Today based on discussion from the Night before. My vote for kassia should shock absolutely nobody. As for the second vote on NAF, is that counting the vote that Hal Briston made before the governor race had even been decided? If so, you really should probably consider me the first vote on NAF. It's hard to fault me for voting second behind an eventually-subbed-out lurker who had the first vote in the entire game by a long shot. If you give me the benefit of the doubt on those, it's two first votes, two second votes, and a fifth vote. Not really as pretty a pattern as before. I ought to apologise drainbead. I missed one of your votes, although it is strange you missed it as well. However, as it was a brief vote/unvote of NAF1138, I guess it doesn't count. After all, you seem to think that Hal Briston's original vote doesn't count because at the time, I'm sure you knew that he was going to lurk and then be subbed out half way through Day 1. Oh and looking through it, you are still very consistent in when you vote. In fact too consistent, going from beyond unlikely into the realms of planned voting. The votes are as they stand, you voted in the pattern above. If you wish to continue arguing against the facts, feel free.
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Post by RoOsh on Dec 7, 2007 16:43:10 GMT -5
So, on Day 2 he investigated someone (call them 'X'). I don't know if it was confirmed, but I believe ( based on the setting) he would read someone as either 'replicant' or 'human', without knowing alignment. What do you mean "based on the setting"? The theme of Blade Runner? Am I missing something in storyteller's posts?
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Post by Drain Bead on Dec 7, 2007 16:44:55 GMT -5
Well, as I didn't go back and pore through the voting record on Day One (I am at work, and frankly spent enough time poring over my own words today) it's no surprise I missed it. Plus, technically, I unvoted and then revoted the same person, so I didn't think of it as a separate vote.
My point with Hal's vote (which you are conveniently glossing over) is not that he ended up lurking and being subbed out, but that he made it before the governor race had even ended. It was the first vote even placed in the game by a long shot.
You are misconstruing some things, and seeing only what you want to see in others.
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Post by Santo Rugger on Dec 7, 2007 20:53:56 GMT -5
Well, if anybody was wondering, I pretty much blew it with "Lisa" last night. Oh, well, I didn't really have the best feeling about her the next morning anyway... In other news, I'm headed to Albuquerque for a "stereotype" costume party. I started dressing like a redneck, but ended up as Huck Finn instead. I'll try and post some pics. Anyway, the point of my story is that I'm not sure how much I'll be around this weekend... see you guys soon.
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Post by Drain Bead on Dec 7, 2007 21:20:00 GMT -5
It seems like this thread is so slow now.
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Post by Pleonast on Dec 7, 2007 21:59:47 GMT -5
It seems like this thread is so slow now. That's what you get for lynching me. ;D
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Post by Parzival on Dec 7, 2007 22:14:10 GMT -5
What do you mean "based on the setting"? The theme of Blade Runner? Am I missing something in storyteller's posts? drainbead - it is Friday night, a typically slow time 'round here. Yes, I mean the Blade Runner/DADOES universe. I myself was kind of working under those assumptions from the start even though it wasn't explicit. But after Pleonast died I had been pretty sure that's what story said. Anyways, I did go back and check now, and in the lynch post for Pleonast (start of Night 3) Storyteller says his power was to tell if someone was a Replicant or not. In my post above I was making an attempt to get inside Pleonast's head, and I can't be certain what assumptions he was making, so I was trying to be as broad as possible. But at least some of what he knew can be divined from the role description as we have it.
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Post by RoOsh on Dec 7, 2007 22:18:30 GMT -5
:nod: okay. Thanks for the clarification.
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Post by sinjin on Dec 7, 2007 22:51:32 GMT -5
:nod: okay. Thanks for the clarification. Wait, that can't be all. OMG Roosh has been brainwashed by a cult of silent monks. Run for the hills!!! No, stop, the other hills, don't run to the ones that have eyes for heaven's sake. Hills with eyes are always a bad idea. Piano music............We now return you to your regularly scheduled event. Carry on.
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Post by RoOsh on Dec 8, 2007 0:53:38 GMT -5
I've had some time to look at my schedule, and it's gonna be hell. Good news: My final 2 exams are on Weds and Thursday nights. So after that I can devote all my time to Mafia! Bad news: I gotta study like hell for those exams.
So with that in mind, and since i'll prolly be stuck having just to scan these threads then every night but thats about it before I get back to work, I know I won't have time for the deep analysis.
I was suspicious of Zeriel from yesterDay, mainly due to his statement of he's always going to vote for either Me or Sinjin until he kill one of us and then start voting for the other. I disliked it then, and still do. Even though I understand the behavior, I still dislike the "mechanical action" without any further proof/evidence. However, he's not posted today much. So... :shrug: I can't really go off of that. So I'm gonna put that line of thought on the backburner. But I do want to throw it out there, as he was one of my unnamed people I wanted to watch.
As for Dotchan- she's stated she's been really busy and had a hard time with the game. This is understand actually because I'm about to have one of those periods myself. So i'm gonna cut the lil'chan some slack, and give her the benefit of the doubt on her crap vote of me on Day 3.
This will bring me to the other mentioned person: Drainbead. I can understand your point on Hal, and the "insta-vote" business I'm not really sure I get your stance on. It's kinda shaky, but fine. However, the thing I didn't like was the way you kept pursuing me on Day 3. You misquoted me (stating I voted for Dio), you then attributed ideas to me which were simply false (stating I told Dio to shut up, when I did no such thing), and it just seems like you were really out to get me, but without really thinking things through. And then to top it off, you don't vote for me. And you just kinda leave it there. I felt like i was the victim of a drive by smudging/smear campaign. And then Dotchan randomly votes for me thinking I've got it out for her, and Episode as well votes, but of the 3 she was the only one who even gave a decent reason that made sense. I felt it was weak, but it made sense at least (saying she felt I was all over the place and disliked the Sinjin spat). The other vote/ drive by smear did not however. They had no real reasoning behind them, and it just felt like Ui almost, where you wanted my head, but no real evidence of why you wanted my head.
AND that to me is kinda suspicious.
So since I know I'm gonna be here and there for the next few days, I wanna put my vote out there early and not at the last min: Vote Drainbead with the right to change my mind if I see someone more suspicious in upcoming days. But right now, based on your Day 3 actions towards me, you are the most suspicious.
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Post by Captain Klutz on Dec 8, 2007 9:23:43 GMT -5
More post count analysis, long, boring, but ultimately may be informative. <snippage> Captain KlutzDay 1: zeriel - 3 Day 2: DeathyByIrony - 1 Day 3: DeathyByIrony - 1 Day 3: Pleonast - 9 zerielDay 1: mhaye - 2 Day 2: CIAS v.1 - 2 Day 1: zuma - 4 Day 3: sinjin - 2 Day 4: kassia - 1 Minor corrections: My Day 3 vote for Death By Irony was her second (not first) vote. Zeriel's vote for CIAS v.1 was on Day 1 (of course)
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Post by Captain Klutz on Dec 8, 2007 9:32:06 GMT -5
Atarus,
In regard to the Nexus-9 "activation", you have said that the wording allows two different interpretations. Can you seek clarification from storyteller as to which is the correct one?
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Post by zuma on Dec 8, 2007 10:36:04 GMT -5
NAF is right. we're screwed. I have no idea who to vote for. Maybe an early kassia voter? I think it was fairly obvious that kassia was not breadcrumbed guilty. I'll not vote for the first voter, but the second.
vote: drainbead[/color]
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Post by zuma on Dec 8, 2007 10:39:37 GMT -5
What exactly are you celebrating? The fact that my post finally went through. I was kind of hoping that it was a cheerleading post to the scum day thread, accidentally posted here. But it was probably just wishful thinking.
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Post by zuma on Dec 8, 2007 10:46:46 GMT -5
Actually, from a meta-game perspective, this one just got interesting. Scum is batting about .097... I was getting sick of town always winning. It got boring. Now we have to win this one the old fashioned way. No cops, and an apparently shitty doc who failed to protect NAF.
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Post by Drain Bead on Dec 8, 2007 11:06:20 GMT -5
They had no real reasoning behind them, and it just felt like Ui almost, where you wanted my head, but no real evidence of why you wanted my head. Are you forgetting that ui was TOWN then? When I was newbie scum, I tried to smear MTS for acting strangely as he did in a previous game...when he was town...and got rightfully jumped on for it. This isn't quite the same, as you're smearing me based on someone else's actions in a previous game...but that someone else was town nonetheless.
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