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Post by Chameleon on May 11, 2014 6:46:34 GMT -5
Huh? I feel like something just flew a thousand miles over my head. |
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Post by Mahaloth on May 11, 2014 7:38:26 GMT -5
Huh? I feel like something just flew a thousand miles over my head. It's a straight dope thing, where you list a(sadly now deceased) member Opal in the third item in a list. She hated lists of 2. |
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Post by Colby11 on May 11, 2014 10:58:13 GMT -5
Green gem- [/color] archangel, patricia, Mary, Meeko
Black gem- Mahaloth, johnnybravo, Dizzymrslizzy, Silver Jan
Please bold or color code whether you are getting a gem please
Vote count
Meeko- Paulwhoisaghost
Archangel- Storyteller
Storyteller- Archangel
Mary- Peeker
Peeker- Meeko
With these votes, Meeko will be lynched
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Post by LightFoot on May 11, 2014 11:49:28 GMT -5
I almost want to think that the black gem may help the Scum players- so the green one should benefit Town players-
This leads me to lean towards the takers of black gems as possible Scum
I realize this is probably wrong headed- but it is all I have this Day
I have the idea that Town will likely tell us what gems do what for them and Scum may not-
Having said that- Scum will probably make up what their gems do
Of course gems may operate different player to player- so we should not be trapped into thinking that what a green gem does for one Town will be the same for another- we will know more the next Day- I hope
Green Gem please
If I have one then I can see if it does the same for me as it does ( reportedly) for another
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Post by LightFoot on May 11, 2014 12:03:50 GMT -5
I am still suspect of the players that were eager – first thing- to have a black gem
Vote: Mahaloth
Nothing much to add – willing to change my vote since we have a mess in the vote count at this time
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Post by Mahaloth on May 11, 2014 12:14:51 GMT -5
I am still suspect of the players that were eager – first thing- to have a black gem Vote: Mahaloth Nothing much to add – willing to change my vote since we have a mess in the vote count at this time So why me and not archangel, who took one first? Besides, why wouldn't we take a gem first. I happen to be one of the first to post after the Day started and was curious. He took green, so I took black. |
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Post by LightFoot on May 11, 2014 12:30:18 GMT -5
I am still suspect of the players that were eager – first thing- to have a black gem Vote: Mahaloth Nothing much to add – willing to change my vote since we have a mess in the vote count at this time So why me and not archangel, who took one first? Besides, why wouldn't we take a gem first. I happen to be one of the first to post after the Day started and was curious. He took green, so I took black. my reasoning is weak - I admitted that- but I have the strange idea that the Black gems may benefit the dark side I do realize that we all thought there were only 2 gems total in the beginning- we were wrong- but if the black gem does benefit Scum more than Town it stands to reason that Scum would want to be sure to nab it |
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Post by xarchangelx on May 11, 2014 13:15:40 GMT -5
So why me and not archangel, who took one first? Besides, why wouldn't we take a gem first. I happen to be one of the first to post after the Day started and was curious. He took green, so I took black. my reasoning is weak - I admitted that- but I have the strange idea that the Black gems may benefit the dark side I do realize that we all thought there were only 2 gems total in the beginning- we were wrong- but if the black gem does benefit Scum more than Town it stands to reason that Scum would want to be sure to nab it I don't think it's possible that the black gems will always benefit scum and green will always benefit town. Otherwise scum wouldn't be able to take black gems without giving themselves away. |
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Post by Meeko on May 11, 2014 14:43:45 GMT -5
I am still suspect of the players that were eager – first thing- to have a black gem Vote: Mahaloth Nothing much to add – willing to change my vote since we have a mess in the vote count at this time Care to elaborate on "mess" ? |
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Post by Mahaloth on May 11, 2014 14:50:45 GMT -5
So why me and not archangel, who took one first? Besides, why wouldn't we take a gem first. I happen to be one of the first to post after the Day started and was curious. He took green, so I took black. I do realize that we all thought there were only 2 gems total in the beginning- we were wrong- but if the black gem does benefit Scum more than Town it stands to reason that Scum would want to be sure to nab it :snipped: I never thought there were 2 gems total, so exclude me from "we all". If there had been 2 total, I definitely would have not yoinked it right away, but opened it for discussion. I forget if we were told, but did archangel believe when the green was taken, it was the only one? |
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Post by Meeko on May 11, 2014 14:58:58 GMT -5
Im gonna avoid the gems this time pm recieved Sent from my SPH-L710 using proboards Why are you avoiding gems? Why are you lurking? Unvote: Peeker Vote: Crys |
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Post by Meeko on May 11, 2014 15:02:00 GMT -5
Paul before you fall back on the crutch of "don't worry about just one vote" answer me just two questions.
How can I defend against your vote on me, since the vote lacks substance?
Since I am the one that will get lynched, given the last vote count, wouldn't you say it' say little more than "just one vote"?
Your across game grudge on me is OMGUS incarnate.
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Post by xarchangelx on May 11, 2014 15:49:51 GMT -5
I do realize that we all thought there were only 2 gems total in the beginning- we were wrong- but if the black gem does benefit Scum more than Town it stands to reason that Scum would want to be sure to nab it :snipped: I never thought there were 2 gems total, so exclude me from "we all". If there had been 2 total, I definitely would have not yoinked it right away, but opened it for discussion. I forget if we were told, but did archangel believe when the green was taken, it was the only one? Yes, I did believe it was the only green gem of the Day. |
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Post by Paulwhoisaghost on May 11, 2014 17:24:14 GMT -5
Paul before you fall back on the crutch of "don't worry about just one vote" answer me just two questions. How can I defend against your vote on me, since the vote lacks substance? Since I am the one that will get lynched, given the last vote count, wouldn't you say it' say little more than "just one vote"? Your across game grudge on me is OMGUS incarnate. I don't feel that my vote lacks substance at all. I feel like you came in to the game and very early on went about the business of making people looking scummy without actually suspecting anyone of anything worthy of voting them for it. In other words, you started off the day by implying that other people's actions and posts were somehow indicators of them being scum, when in actuality there was nothing in their actions or posts to indicate their alignment at all. My vote in based on what I perceive to be you trying to make other people look guilty so that other players might look at them and not you, and maybe even eventually vote for them and you can +me that vote without having to appear like you started a mislynch wagon. It's good scum strategy, I think that you are a good enough player to come up with this strategy and execute it. I also think that I caught you red handed and ever since my vote you have squirmed to get votes rolling on someone else. This has nothing to do with a "grudge" that I have against you. I think this is the best place for me to put my vote for the Day. I think it's a much better vote than voting for Maha for taking a black gem.... or voting for Crys for not taking a gem and lurking (easy target them lurkers, huh Meeko?). I'm not looking for you to defend against my vote on you. It's unfortunate for you that I was the first person to vote, but I am not going to back down from voting for the person I have found most suspicious toDay just because you think I have a grudge against you or because no one else has had a wagon formed against them yet. Do you not agree that it would be very bad play on my part to against my judgement and vote for someone other than the person at the top of my suspicions? I don't feel it's necessary, since everyone else has seen my vote and the reasons for it... and no one has commented on it being unreasonable besides you... but lets ask everyone else. Do you guys think that I am being unreasonable in the reasons behind my vote or in maintaining that vote? |
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Post by Meeko on May 11, 2014 18:28:57 GMT -5
I wanted a shiny gem! Oh well.... Vote: Meeko My head is already starting to hurt. |
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Post by Meeko on May 11, 2014 19:07:38 GMT -5
Paul before you fall back on the crutch of "don't worry about just one vote" answer me just two questions. How can I defend against your vote on me, since the vote lacks substance? Since I am the one that will get lynched, given the last vote count, wouldn't you say it' say little more than "just one vote"? Your across game grudge on me is OMGUS incarnate. I don't feel that my vote lacks substance at all. I feel like you came in to the game and very early on went about the business of making people looking scummy without actually suspecting anyone of anything worthy of voting them for it. In other words, you started off the day by implying that other people's actions and posts were somehow indicators of them being scum, when in actuality there was nothing in their actions or posts to indicate their alignment at all. My vote in based on what I perceive to be you trying to make other people look guilty so that other players might look at them and not you, and maybe even eventually vote for them and you can +me that vote without having to appear like you started a mislynch wagon. It's good scum strategy, I think that you are a good enough player to come up with this strategy and execute it. I also think that I caught you red handed and ever since my vote you have squirmed to get votes rolling on someone else. This has nothing to do with a "grudge" that I have against you. I think this is the best place for me to put my vote for the Day. I think it's a much better vote than voting for Maha for taking a black gem.... or voting for Crys for not taking a gem and lurking (easy target them lurkers, huh Meeko?). I'm not looking for you to defend against my vote on you. It's unfortunate for you that I was the first person to vote, but I am not going to back down from voting for the person I have found most suspicious toDay just because you think I have a grudge against you or because no one else has had a wagon formed against them yet. Do you not agree that it would be very bad play on my part to against my judgement and vote for someone other than the person at the top of my suspicions? I don't feel it's necessary, since everyone else has seen my vote and the reasons for it... and no one has commented on it being unreasonable besides you... but lets ask everyone else. Do you guys think that I am being unreasonable in the reasons behind my vote or in maintaining that vote? I don't feel that my vote lacks substance at all. ---- I wanted a shiny gem! Oh well.... Vote: Meeko My head is already starting to hurt. ---- Very, very substantive. ---- I feel like you came in to the game and very early on went about the business of making people looking scummy without actually suspecting anyone of anything worthy of voting them for it. Believe it or not, some people like to wait before voting. You should try it some time. When you do, you might want practice "case building" ... Now, if only I had an example or two lying around here. ---- It's good scum strategy, I think that you are a good enough player to come up with this strategy and execute it. ---- But it's not good enough scum strategy to the point where my scum mates would tell me to knock it off. Or, to vote for other people to save me..... Thanks for the compliment though. ---- I also think that I caught you red handed and ever since my vote you have squirmed to get votes rolling on someone else. ---- No comment here. This stands on it's own. Think of it as an investment. ---- Lynch the lurker isn't valid on day 1? Well s***, I guess we are plying different games then. ---- And, perhaps, just perhaps, the reason why you don't want to hear a defense to your vote on me, is proof positive it is a lousy vote. But, then again, you aren't hearing any of this. La la la la la. |
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Post by crys on May 11, 2014 19:10:36 GMT -5
Im gonna avoid the gems this time pm recieved Sent from my SPH-L710 using proboards Why are you avoiding gems? Why are you lurking? Unvote: Peeker Vote: CrysBecause I dont know what they do. Im not lurking just havent had time to read everything yet. Starting now Sent from my SPH-L710 using proboards |
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Post by crys on May 11, 2014 19:24:56 GMT -5
Ok so after a read through im going to
Vote: vote paulwhoisaghost
Paul reads to me as someone that is doing exactly what he is accusing meeko of doing and trying very hard to paint a scum symbol on someone else.
Almost as if he knows that meeko isn't on his team and knowing that quite often meeko makes an easy target day 1 because his playstyle.
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Post by Meeko on May 11, 2014 19:29:19 GMT -5
Ok so after a read through im going to Vote: vote paulwhoisaghost Paul reads to me as someone that is doing exactly what he is accusing meeko of doing and trying very hard to paint a scum symbol on someone else. Almost as if he knows that meeko isn't on his team and knowing that quite often meeko makes an easy target day 1 because his playstyle. Well now, this is awkward. Is Meeko unvoting because he agrees with this? Is Meeko unvoting because Crys is no longer lurking? Both. Unvote: Crys Vote: Paul |
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Post by Meeko on May 11, 2014 19:43:09 GMT -5
Meeko wonders if anyone is going to comment on the fact that he somehow started the third person narrative thing again.  |
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Post by Paulwhoisaghost on May 11, 2014 20:20:07 GMT -5
I wanted a shiny gem! Oh well.... Vote: Meeko My head is already starting to hurt. Yes, that is where I voted... but it doesn't explain my case against you... if you scroll down a whopping three posts, you would see a full explanation of my vote for you. Here it is, I know you are familiar with it since we have been discussing the merit of it for the entire Day... but you seemed to want to oversimplify it so perhaps you need a reminder? If your head is hurting, perhaps vote for aspirin instead? How am I confusing you? Was it not your intention to cast suspicion on Angel and/or Maha based solely on the way that they requested the gems and the speed at which they did so? If you are being genuine in your suspicions, then I can't find the logic behind it... I can't see either of them taking the steps to consider what it says about their alignment to request one of them gems or to do so in one fashion or another using specific language so as to appear more innocent or plant WiFoM. If your suggestion of suspicion was not genuine then you are just trying to plant that seed of doubt against them in a subtle yet entirely non-sensical way. Either way, I am already confused by trying to figure out what your aim was when you commented on either of them. |
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Post by Paulwhoisaghost on May 11, 2014 20:35:25 GMT -5
Ok so after a read through im going to b] Vote: vote paulwhoisaghost [/b] Paul reads to me as someone that is doing exactly what he is accusing meeko of doing and trying very hard to paint a scum symbol on someone else. Almost as if he knows that meeko isn't on his team and knowing that quite often meeko makes an easy target day 1 because his playstyle.[/quote] Am I the only person playing who considers there to be a difference between smudging someone subtly and coming right out and voting for that person and explaining why I think they are scummy? As far as knowing Meeko is not on my team, I don't know that at all... but I am more convinced that he isn't on my team than I am anyone else. Although, I'm beginning to think that I can add to that list considering the awkward scenario that just played out between you and Meeko. Why did Meeko reach way back from page 4 to page 1 in order to grab a post from you and vote you for the content of that post and lurking? Wouldn't a better move as town be for self preservation on Day 1? If he knows he is town, why not vote for anyone else that already had a vote? He doesn't know they are town... Instead I think he found a reasion to vote for you, avoiding the gems... the opposite of the reason he supposedly voted for Peeker... the person that he had to unvote in order to vote for you. Voting you for lurking is a null tell in my opinion, but I disagree with the logic... there are other lurkers... why you? But magically you appear, explain yourself, do a reread, and decide to vote for me... then Meeko switches his vote to me as well.... why wasn't Meeko's vote already on me? If he was comfortable with me being lynched, why hadn't his vote been there all Day? This whole thing stinks of the two of you coordinating behind the scenes to find a way not to lose a scum teammate on Day 1 by a whopping 1 vote. My vote on Meeko stays. If no one else comes along in time to see the last minute shenanigans you just pulled, I'm sure the death reveal will be enough that they have some leads for Tomorrow's lynch. My role is of a nature that I don't find it's ability good for town to have, and would have reservations using it anyway. |
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Post by Meeko on May 11, 2014 21:06:38 GMT -5
Town, this is the entirety of his vote. In post 10. I'm more curious than he is. Is this good play? Yes, that is where I voted... but it doesn't explain my case against you... if you scroll down a whopping three posts, you would see a full explanation of my vote for you. Here it is, I know you are familiar with it since we have been discussing the merit of it for the entire Day... but you seemed to want to oversimplify it so perhaps you need a reminder? Was it not your intention to cast suspicion on Angel and/or Maha based solely on the way that they requested the gems and the speed at which they did so? If you are being genuine in your suspicions, then I can't find the logic behind it... I can't see either of them taking the steps to consider what it says about their alignment to request one of them gems or to do so in one fashion or another using specific language so as to appear more innocent or plant WiFoM. If your suggestion of suspicion was not genuine then you are just trying to plant that seed of doubt against them in a subtle yet entirely non-sensical way. Either way, I am already confused by trying to figure out what your aim was when you commented on either of them. Anyone can justify anything after the fact. The reason your reason came after the vote, is reason for the vote enough. Or did I just make your head hurt further? |
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Post by Meeko on May 11, 2014 21:22:00 GMT -5
Snipped and expanded. Let's have some fun! Why did Meeko reach way back from page 4 to page 1 in order to grab a post from you and vote you for the content of that post and lurking? Wouldn't a better move as town be for self preservation on Day 1? If he knows he is town, why not vote for anyone else that already had a vote? He doesn't know they are town... Instead I think he found a reasion to vote for you, avoiding the gems... the opposite of the reason he supposedly voted for Peeker... the person that he had to unvote in order to vote for you. Voting you for lurking is a null tell in my opinion, but I disagree with the logic... there are other lurkers... why you? But magically you appear, explain yourself, do a reread, and decide to vote for me... then Meeko switches his vote to me as well.... why wasn't Meeko's vote already on me? If he was comfortable with me being lynched, why hadn't his vote been there all Day? This whole thing stinks of the two of you coordinating behind the scenes to find a way not to lose a scum teammate on Day 1 by a whopping 1 vote. My vote on Meeko stays. If no one else comes along in time to see the last minute shenanigans you just pulled, I'm sure the death reveal will be enough that they have some leads for Tomorrow's lynch. My role is of a nature that I don't find it's ability good for town to have, and would have reservations using it anyway. ---- Why did I go back four pages to quote a lurker? Because, they are lurking. ---- Um, because I wanted to vote for you? ---- And yet, it all makes complete and perfect sense to him, ladies and gentlemen. ---- Reasoning with out giving reasons is a B***h ain't it? Perhaps I can give you some reasons ex post facto. That's how you would do it, right? ---- I don't know Crys' alignment. They are are enjoying this show as much as I am at this point. Perhaps for different reasons. ---- """ My role is of a nature that I don't find it's ability good for town to have, and would have reservations using it anyway.""" Do you mind speaking up? I didn't quite catch this. |
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Post by Paulwhoisaghost on May 11, 2014 21:36:08 GMT -5
Yes, that is where I voted... but it doesn't explain my case against you... if you scroll down a whopping three posts, you would see a full explanation of my vote for you. Here it is, I know you are familiar with it since we have been discussing the merit of it for the entire Day... but you seemed to want to oversimplify it so perhaps you need a reminder? Anyone can justify anything after the fact. The reason your reason came after the vote, is reason for the vote enough. Or did I just make your head hurt further? I'm done.... You've gone beyond using logic to play a fun game and are clearly now just using words to express your hostile feelings towards me. I thought we could play together after the amount of time that has gone by... but you can't even handle a single vote from me without getting hostile and using the game as a medium for mocking me. |
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Post by Meeko on May 11, 2014 21:38:04 GMT -5
Anyone can justify anything after the fact. The reason your reason came after the vote, is reason for the vote enough. Or did I just make your head hurt further? I'm done.... You've gone beyond using logic to play a fun game and are clearly now just using words to express your hostile feelings towards me. I thought we could play together after the amount of time that has gone by... but you can't even handle a single vote from me without getting hostile and using the game as a medium for mocking me. And you can't handle two votes. I think that's even. Oh, and one could take your comments towards me as mockery. |
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Post by crys on May 11, 2014 22:35:48 GMT -5
Magically appear? I dont think so. I work 2 pretty much full time jobs. I dont always have a ton of time. I wouldnt actually call wha t I did a reread. I hadnt had a chance to get back and do a full read through.
IMO you are coming off as if you are trying too hard to give meeko a push to the noose. Had you just let things go I probably wouldnt have even paid attention to the paul and meeko show.
I feel like im watching you trying to paint a picture without a paintbrush
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Post by Silver Jan on May 12, 2014 7:59:27 GMT -5
LightFoot, you "almost want to think" that scum players would pick a black gem, then you vote for a player that picked up a black gem which raised my eyebrows more than somewhat. Why would the mod do something so obviously against the scum team? In future all that would have to happen is vote for the person that picked up a black gem, oh look, another scum. This doesn't sit well with me at all, I think you know a bit more about these gems than we do.
Unvote: LightFoot
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Post by Silver Jan on May 12, 2014 7:59:59 GMT -5
Pressed the wrong button  Vote: LightFoot |
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Post by Silver Jan on May 12, 2014 8:06:48 GMT -5
At the moment I think Meeko is just being Meeko and I don't think Pauls original vote holds up and I do wonder why he is trying to make such a big thing about it. There does seem to be a bit of history there and it's rather difficult to sort out what is real and what is perceived. I need a Meeko dictionary.
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