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Post by Meeko on May 19, 2014 19:07:17 GMT -5
I guess I'll take a black gem again. I am super confused and way over my head, clearly. One thing that I recall is that certain gems only work with certain players. . Run this by me again?
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Post by Mahaloth on May 19, 2014 19:07:32 GMT -5
Odd, since there are no third parties in this game.
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Post by dizzymrslizzy on May 19, 2014 19:21:55 GMT -5
I guess I'll take a black gem again. I am super confused and way over my head, clearly. One thing that I recall is that certain gems only work with certain players. . Run this by me again? Meek's I believe he's referring to the rules, like specifically Rule #3: 3. Each Day and Night, you may choose to pick a Gem. You may choose not to pick a Gem. The Gems hold great power, but they do come with risk. Good and bad things can happen from you choosing a Gem. The only thing the Gems cannot do is kill you, however. The Gems' powers activate if you are a certain person, or if you are holding a particular gem, depending on the day/night. Each day/night is different, and so are the powers.
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Post by LightFoot on May 19, 2014 19:37:32 GMT -5
To put an end to some of the speculation Paul forced Meeko to vote for Crys Not gem related as Paul never took one Paul had no way to know that Crys would be the Night kill- as he was( as I now am) Town- if it were a Scum ability they would have forced the vote on a living Town – not the one they were going to NK anyway I’m not sure how the ability can help Town- unless I live til end of Game and have a clue who is Scum. I did consider keeping this under wraps- to see if there was a counter claim to take responsibility- but we need the information To answer Peeker From the rules
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Post by LightFoot on May 19, 2014 19:38:48 GMT -5
I will take a white Gem
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Post by LightFoot on May 19, 2014 20:13:07 GMT -5
Final vote tally Green gem- archangel, patricia, Mary, Meeko, Lightfoot, Black gem- Mahaloth, johnnybravo, Dizzymrslizzy, Silver Jan Vote count Meeko- Paulwhoisaghost Dizzymrslizzy- Peeker Mahaloth- Lightfoot Paulwhoisaghost- Crys, Meeko, Dizzymrslizzy, Archangel Lightfoot- Silver Jan, Mahaloth, johnnybravo, Patricia No lynch- Chameleon Now to address the votes that caused the demise of LightFoot V1 Paul and LightFootV1 both Town were the only contenders for the lynch yesterday. For the record "as we have some players I haven't played with as of yet" I'm not a big poster. I read the thread daily and usually get my vote in. But if I don't have some thing to add I don't post - that my style. As it is day one I don't have a strong scum feel on anyone but I do have enough to vote Vote: Lightfoot This vote is not because of her saying that black gem are good for scum (I kinda get that) no not really but I don't think her feeling that makes her scummy. What I do find scummy is her posts on page 6 one after another, being helpful, pointing out who voted who didn't, pointing a finger at dizzy for her post but not reading why she was posting as a guest (skimming) using the I may have to claim as a reason to get people to unvote her etc. These are things I might do as scum if I was the vote leader. Is it a weak sauce case yes, is it day one yes. Patricia For very weak sauce at the 11th hour in her vote
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Post by Meeko on May 19, 2014 20:46:27 GMT -5
Meek's I believe he's referring to the rules, like specifically Rule #3: 3. Each Day and Night, you may choose to pick a Gem. You may choose not to pick a Gem. The Gems hold great power, but they do come with risk. Good and bad things can happen from you choosing a Gem. The only thing the Gems cannot do is kill you, however. The Gems' powers activate if you are a certain person, or if you are holding a particular gem, depending on the day/night. Each day/night is different, and so are the powers. Ah. Ok.
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Post by Meeko on May 19, 2014 21:23:45 GMT -5
FOS PATRICIA
You know, since I can't vote.
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Post by LightFoot on May 19, 2014 21:54:30 GMT -5
brain dead idiot=me green gem please
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Post by Colby11 on May 20, 2014 7:33:15 GMT -5
Gem count
Black Gems - Mahaloth, johnnybravo, Meeko
Green Gems - Lightfoot
Vote count
Crys- Meeko
Patricia- Lightfoot
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Post by peekercpa on May 20, 2014 9:04:08 GMT -5
Odd, since there are no third parties in this game. [bill clinton voice] i never said there were third parties actually in the game but rather that it smelled like a third party action [/bill clinton voice off] carp, i certainly haven't gotten any better at this endeavor after they lay off.
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Post by Chameleon on May 20, 2014 11:40:30 GMT -5
The Crys vote seems too pointless to make up so I believe Meeko. Question is was it a power or a gem, or something else? I'm going with the idea that perhaps it was Lightfoot's (aka Paul's) not-so-good-for-Town ability. Perhaps Lightfoot could shed some light (ha) on the situation? We already know her character has some kind of ability, and it doesn't really make her a target since the ability doesn't do Town any good (and seems like it might help Scum). This is also assuming she's not Scum, which would alter the perspective. But of course she knows best what to reveal, or not. i don't believe anyone in this game until they are dead. so meeko making it up is not pointless. it can't be misproven, right? so he may get a little cred (well he diid with you). does it a couple more times and he's got some folks thinking he is nostradamus and then pulls a future one out of his ear that is fatal to a team. yeh, i don't trust the beaverr. You're right that no one can be fully trusted in this game until they're dead, but how would voting for Crys benefit Meeko regardless of what side he's on? The point is somewhat moot now since Lightfoot explained what happened (if we decide to believe her - it does make sense with what happened and with what Paul said about the role). Lightfoot, do you know if Paul chose both the voter and vote recipient?
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Post by LightFoot on May 20, 2014 12:57:04 GMT -5
~snipped~ Lightfoot, do you know if Paul chose both the voter and vote recipient? see post #33 this page
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Post by Silver Jan on May 20, 2014 14:00:59 GMT -5
I am glad that was cleared up about Meeko having to vote for crys, I am not very surprised that that turned out to be the case cos Paul did seem to have it in for Meeko. I don't really see how that ability helps Town though but as I said before why would scum make Meeko vote for a player that they were going to kill, that doesn't make sense. It does make both LightFoot and Meeko look Townie.
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Post by Silver Jan on May 20, 2014 14:07:33 GMT -5
Actually, after thinking about the situation for a bit I am not sure it sort of clears Meeko at all, if he was scum he could just as easily have come out with it cos otherwise it would have looked very strange if he had just voted for a dead crys. I think I could be confusing myself here and I should keep an open mind about Meeko.
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Post by LightFoot on May 20, 2014 15:54:54 GMT -5
Players that avoided the town-v-town vote
Paul – who is now me and I know I am Town
LightFootV1 Town
peeker
Chameleon
My half assed logic tells me that one/both Peeker & Chameleon are Scum
Thinking about it Scum knew that a Town player was going to be lynched - either way- of course they couldn’t all have one off votes- but a one off would be safe-
Odds were that there would be heat on Paul ( who I am now impersonating ) for the this Day- past games tell me that there are always a few that are convinced that a tie probably contains 1Town / 1Scum
Paul sort of did me a favour by getting lucky with his forced vote on the NK target ( as said before Scum knew that they were going to NK Crys ) Paul didn’t
unless there is a Town re-director you say- they redirected the Scum Kill-
Although it is possible that could have happened- then there would be a Town player that knew for CERTAIN the identity of one Scum- and they would likely be calling for my head as well as the player that they re-directed
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Post by LightFoot on May 20, 2014 16:25:51 GMT -5
Town or Scum – Meeko had to vote as instructed or face a penalty vote on himself
if we believe the conditions he posted and I tend to otherwise my power would not be much of a power
That said I don’t see how recent events help/hinder determining Meeko’s alliance
It does appear that Paul wanted to make Meeko ‘look bad’ by forcing him to vote for a player with little to no reason- I was not told the conditions ( if any) that would be given to the player whose vote was forced.
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Post by Mahaloth on May 20, 2014 16:43:34 GMT -5
When does Day end?
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Post by LightFoot on May 20, 2014 17:08:35 GMT -5
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Post by Silver Jan on May 21, 2014 9:25:03 GMT -5
Yes, it's Thursday. ToDay has been really quiet. I don't even think everyone has posted today, Archangel or Patricia, not sure if there are any more.
I will pick up a Green Gem today.
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Post by patricia on May 21, 2014 11:12:29 GMT -5
Last time around I took a Green Gem that as far as I can tell did nothing for me. So today, I will pick up a Black Gem
As for a vote today. Not much to go on as no one is posting. Lightfoot voted for me in a revenge type way which is ok, as I was wrong about her yesterday. The only thing the sticks out to me so far today is Meeko's FOS of me. Seems like a easy place for someone who has to vote a certain way to act in a townie way. Why would a townie player place a FOS on someone who gets the first real vote of the day? Scum want to look townie and like they are playing and looking for scum so right back at you Meeko FOS on Meeko for trying to hard. If nothing else pops before tomorrow this is where I will vote.
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Post by Chameleon on May 21, 2014 12:46:55 GMT -5
~snipped~ Lightfoot, do you know if Paul chose both the voter and vote recipient? see post #33 this page I was worried I missed something really obvious, but your description wasn't unquestionably direct. I assume this means that you choose both. Thanks for pointing it out.
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Post by Chameleon on May 21, 2014 13:00:29 GMT -5
Players that avoided the town-v-town vote Paul – who is now me and I know I am Town LightFootV1 Town peeker Chameleon My half assed logic tells me that one/both Peeker & Chameleon are Scum Thinking about it Scum knew that a Town player was going to be lynched - either way- of course they couldn’t all have one off votes- but a one off would be safe- I voted for No Lynch because I felt it was more likely that LightfootV1 was Town, and I thought I would have support with Archangel and yourself (and possibly others) with that option (I'm pretty sure it was Archangel that said she would be interested in voting No Lynch). I know it's controversial, but I would always prefer to err on the side of caution on Day 1 and prevent a (more likely) Town lynch. I was reasonably certain (and clearly wrong) that my vote would not be the only one for No Lynch. If I were Scum I would have been better off not voting at all as opposed to trying to prevent a probable Town lynch.
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Post by Silver Jan on May 21, 2014 14:27:05 GMT -5
Last time around I took a Green Gem that as far as I can tell did nothing for me. So today, I will pick up a Black Gem As for a vote today. Not much to go on as no one is posting. Lightfoot voted for me in a revenge type way which is ok, as I was wrong about her yesterday. The only thing the sticks out to me so far today is Meeko's FOS of me. Seems like a easy place for someone who has to vote a certain way to act in a townie way. Why would a townie player place a FOS on someone who gets the first real vote of the day? Scum want to look townie and like they are playing and looking for scum so right back at you Meeko FOS on Meeko for trying to hard. If nothing else pops before tomorrow this is where I will vote. So you won't vote for LightFoot because she voted for you because you think it's a revenge vote? Have I got that right? You haven't voted for anyone but FOS Meeko because he FOSsed you. I am not buying this. Why not place a vote? Votes can be changed. You have also come along at the eleventh hour (ok, it's really the 25th hour) and just FOS people, I find that difficult to accept. Okay, I know there hasn't been a lot of chat toDay but when I get votes I know people are wrong and I go and look up all there posts and then vote (I usually make a mess of this but never the less). I think Patricia is being too cautious and it's not sitting well with me. Vote: Patricia
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Post by patricia on May 21, 2014 14:38:48 GMT -5
Last time around I took a Green Gem that as far as I can tell did nothing for me. So today, I will pick up a Black Gem As for a vote today. Not much to go on as no one is posting. Lightfoot voted for me in a revenge type way which is ok, as I was wrong about her yesterday. The only thing the sticks out to me so far today is Meeko's FOS of me. Seems like a easy place for someone who has to vote a certain way to act in a townie way. Why would a townie player place a FOS on someone who gets the first real vote of the day? Scum want to look townie and like they are playing and looking for scum so right back at you Meeko FOS on Meeko for trying to hard. If nothing else pops before tomorrow this is where I will vote. So you won't vote for LightFoot because she voted for you because you think it's a revenge vote? Have I got that right? You haven't voted for anyone but FOS Meeko because he FOSsed you. I am not buying this. Why not place a vote? Votes can be changed. You have also come along at the eleventh hour (ok, it's really the 25th hour) and just FOS people, I find that difficult to accept. Okay, I know there hasn't been a lot of chat toDay but when I get votes I know people are wrong and I go and look up all there posts and then vote (I usually make a mess of this but never the less). I think Patricia is being too cautious and it's not sitting well with me. Vote: PatriciaTo answer this - I didn't vote for Lightfoot as I believe she is town. I was using her vote to show my point for my FOS of Meeko. As, to why I FOS instead of placing a vote is simple - I have time to be around today and I'm going to wait to see if anything else pops. So you voted for me for not voting? I find that interesting.
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Post by patricia on May 21, 2014 14:40:51 GMT -5
Since I'm the vote leader with a whole two votes. I will soft claim - I'm town and it can be tested, however, I would like to wait until later in the game to do so or claim.
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Post by dizzymrslizzy on May 21, 2014 14:42:52 GMT -5
Yeah, I agree with you there Jan, Patricia has been playing it way too safe....It gives me a lot of pause. Her FOS of Meeko is the last straw for me.
Patricia, if you feel like Meeko is reaching (which I kind of feel like he is anyway), then vote for him. Meeko sounds like his vote would be on you if it could, but his hands are tied, and he forced to vote for Crys. You're flailing around right now, and not really saying much of anything. Why would he FOS you, because he's playing the game, and trying to make a case on you even though he can't vote for you.
I was leaning on putting pressure back on Meeko. I know his hands are tied with the Crys vote, but his pushing on Story this Dawn gave me pause when it was a substitution mistake. I'm not quite sure whether there's some bussing going on here between Patricia/Meeko, or if one of them is scum, and Patricia is playing frustrated town, or if it's just town on town action.
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Post by LightFoot on May 21, 2014 14:47:48 GMT -5
~snip~ As for a vote today. Not much to go on as no one is posting. Lightfoot voted for me in a revenge type way which is ok, as I was wrong about her yesterday. Back up the truck- no revenge about it For the record "as we have some players I haven't played with as of yet" I'm not a big poster. I read the thread daily and usually get my vote in. But if I don't have some thing to add I don't post - that my style. As it is day one I don't have a strong scum feel on anyone but I do have enough to vote Vote: Lightfoot This vote is not because of her saying that black gem are good for scum (I kinda get that) no not really but I don't think her feeling that makes her scummy. What I do find scummy is her posts on page 6 one after another, being helpful, pointing out who voted who didn't, pointing a finger at dizzy for her post but not reading why she was posting as a guest (skimming) using the I may have to claim as a reason to get people to unvote her etc. These are things I might do as scum if I was the vote leader. Is it a weak sauce case yes, is it day one yes. My posting as I caught up- ( aka playing the game ) I asked Dizzy about her sock account appearance This had been a lynchable error in the past You will note that she did not say she could not log in- only that she was having trouble with her browser. Town players ( specially if they have a power) will claim near the end of the Day to prevent a miss-lynch just as readily as a lying Scum will to save their neck I think you had to pick one of the front runners for your vote – so you wouldn’t stand out- chose me and gave a weak excuse that didn’t contain complete truths You appear to contradict yourself- he’s acting Townie-Town wouldn’t do that-Scum want to look Townie His FOS reads as if he would be voting you if he could but can’t
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Post by LightFoot on May 21, 2014 14:52:33 GMT -5
Since I'm the vote leader with a whole two votes. I will soft claim - I'm town and it can be tested, however, I would like to wait until later in the game to do so or claim. and you can see where I quoted you from yesterday you said me saying I would claim later was what you would do as Scum you seem a little nervous here
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Post by LightFoot on May 21, 2014 15:56:04 GMT -5
NETA to clarify it's what patricia said she might do as Scum vote leader
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