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Post by Mahaloth on May 29, 2014 22:05:48 GMT -5
Hey Mahaloth, did you win the Gem last night on N2 since you were the first person to pick up the gem? Nope. Nothing was said to me about this at all. Meeko, what exactly is your disappointment with your power? What did you think it would do and what does it actually do that disappoints you?
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Post by Meeko on May 29, 2014 22:18:40 GMT -5
Hey Mahaloth, did you win the Gem last night on N2 since you were the first person to pick up the gem? Nope. Nothing was said to me about this at all. Meeko, what exactly is your disappointment with your power? What did you think it would do and what does it actually do that disappoints you? I was working with the assumption from the start, from the moment I heard the sign-up premise, that each gem had a FIXED power. Follow me on this analogy. I thought I was a gem "Cop". I could investigate a gem, and know that gem's alignment ((power)) for the entire game. I could, if I wanted to, breadcrumb the information in the game over which gems to collect. I could, if I wanted to wait and reveal my role when I revealed what the gems did. Much like you have done yourself Mahaloth, with clearing Peeker and Me. I thought that I alone had this power, and given the framework of "cop" I thought it was balanced at this strength. ... To say nothing of the fact that a gem of a set color that can change it's power can't work regardless of the story theme. I can't. Breadcrumb, or mass reveal, or for that matter, even PROVE anything about the gems if their properties change. If I can't prove my power, then I don't have it. If I don't have power, then I am vanilla. And realizing I am vanilla, in a game that was as dead as it was, was not worthwhile.
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Post by peekercpa on May 29, 2014 23:40:18 GMT -5
hey, maha pick up a six pack. we've got a squiggler here.
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Post by Chameleon on May 30, 2014 5:38:35 GMT -5
The players I'm finding the most suspicious at the moment are Patricia, Lightfoot (the player formerly known as Paul), Dizzy and Peeker. I don't want to vote Peeker because of Maha's investigation. They've all claimed a role and one has been countered. Scotsman could be either side. I don't see how the Gemologist role could be very helpful to Scum since the main thing the gems seem to be doing is protecting players from a night kill. And then we have a vote manipulator of sorts - which I can't see being a benefit for Town but a huge benefit for Scum. Lightfoot was forced into claiming because of Paul, otherwise I don't think the claim would have happened. So based on the role claims I will:
Vote: Lightfoot
I will try and be back before the end of Day, but I might be sleeping.
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Post by Meeko on May 30, 2014 8:47:45 GMT -5
The players I'm finding the most suspicious at the moment are Patricia, Lightfoot (the player formerly known as Paul), Dizzy and Peeker. I don't want to vote Peeker because of Maha's investigation. They've all claimed a role and one has been countered. Scotsman could be either side. I don't see how the Gemologist role could be very helpful to Scum since the main thing the gems seem to be doing is protecting players from a night kill. And then we have a vote manipulator of sorts - which I can't see being a benefit for Town but a huge benefit for Scum. Lightfoot was forced into claiming because of Paul, otherwise I don't think the claim would have happened. So based on the role claims I will: Vote: LightfootI will try and be back before the end of Day, but I might be sleeping. One evaluation of mine states an effect that is beneficial to either side.
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Post by peekercpa on May 30, 2014 10:25:29 GMT -5
i kind of have to agree with both chamo and meeko. my fourth choice as scum is indeed dizzy. remember these can and will most likely will change depending upon reveals and survival.
but for now yeh, unvote all
vote lightfoot
and a big thank you to whoever mentioned the way to be able to preview posts that are not quoted. i've been doing this for over ten years and that's the first time i've known how to do that.
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Post by Silver Jan on May 30, 2014 11:10:03 GMT -5
I still think Patricia could be scum, her saying that she couldn't be lynched and it looked like gloating when she wasn't lynched.
Vote: Patricia
I think Meekos power could help us, at least we know what that particular gem does or maybe I am just irritated by his continued insistence that he is useless.
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Post by peekercpa on May 30, 2014 11:36:40 GMT -5
I still think Patricia could be scum, her saying that she couldn't be lynched and it looked like gloating when she wasn't lynched. Vote: PatriciaI think Meekos power could help us, at least we know what that particular gem does or maybe I am just irritated by his continued insistence that he is useless. ahh, sleepiness leads to pulling a fellow scum from the train tracks because you are 4b. and irritance leads to confirmation of townieness. i'll be interested if those go into the book or not.
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Post by Meeko on May 30, 2014 11:44:13 GMT -5
I still think Patricia could be scum, her saying that she couldn't be lynched and it looked like gloating when she wasn't lynched. Vote: PatriciaI think Meekos power could help us, at least we know what that particular gem does or maybe I am just irritated by his continued insistence that he is useless. DID. NOT does. That's my entire point. I can only tell you what has done, or is doing. There is no value in my power, because you can't plan on it. You can count on it, you can't use it, per se.
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Post by LightFoot on May 30, 2014 12:24:53 GMT -5
Dizzy
D1 you asked about the black Gem and were told ? N2 you asked about the white Gem and were told? What is the timing of the information-
This reads that Scum gain no benefit from the Gems unless they have a “gemologist” too [/u]
Dizzy I see where you were warned not to tell what the gem you won did- but I don’t see where you were told not to tell us what other gems did ?
For instance- if there was no NK on a Night that you knew a certain player was protected from NK that would give you a clue that that person was the subject of the NK and therefore probably Town. Meeko this should apply to you as well RE: Gem results, non?
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chameleon I don’t follow you here. I admitted ( as Paul did before me) that the power was not a great benefit to Town ( although it could be near end game)
We discussed paul’s action on his last Night- he chose to force meeko to vote the player that was the Town target of the NK- if paul/LightFootV2 had been Scum they ( paul) would have known that and would have picked a different target. wouldn't you reason?
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Post by LightFoot on May 30, 2014 12:42:53 GMT -5
Hey Mahaloth, did you win the Gem last night on N2 since you were the first person to pick up the gem? Nope. Nothing was said to me about this at all. Meeko, what exactly is your disappointment with your power? What did you think it would do and what does it actually do that disappoints you? wait dizzy said that they were told they 'won' the D1 gem and were protected dizzy also says they were told the white gem would protect the first to pick one ( which was Maha )and yet Maha states that they were not sent any information about 'winning' the gem or it's effects Have I got that right?
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Post by Chameleon on May 30, 2014 12:48:22 GMT -5
It's not terribly strong Lightfoot, but I just feel that vote manipulation seems like the most likely of the claimed abilities to belong to Scum. Considering that the gems have all been pretty positive so far I think I'll try taking one today. I'll pick up a Black Gem please. Unless it's bad, then I don't want it (I guess it doesn't work that way though)
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Post by LightFoot on May 30, 2014 13:00:04 GMT -5
I was under no pressure to claim- I did so to clear up the speculations @ the forced v
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Post by mary on May 30, 2014 13:08:15 GMT -5
Hey guys, I am so sorry I've been gone! My uncle passed away so this week has been crazy with family in town and everything and I haven't had any time to get on my computer. I also agree with Johnny that it's really overwhelming playing on a new site with a new group of people. In retrospect, I probably shouldn't have signed up for this game but here we are. I will pick up a green gem. I know there's only an hour left so I don't know if people are online and I don't really want to mess up the votes last minute. Can someone post a vote tally?
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Post by LightFoot on May 30, 2014 13:11:52 GMT -5
NETA ... @ the forced vote
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Post by dizzymrslizzy on May 30, 2014 13:37:40 GMT -5
Ugh, I just woke up. I came down with a really bad cold last night, I've been asleep for the last 16 hours, and am groggy and out if it, but I don't have a vote down at this point.
My cases are between: Patricia- I don't like how she gloated about not getting lynched yesterday. I think she should have handled that whole situation different.
Meeko- Obviously he's my counter claim.
And Lightfoot- Being a vote manipulator who not only manipulates votes but forces one player to vote for another just doesn't sit right as a town role.
If Patricia is just a Scum Scotsman, then I think we can leave her be for tonight, and deal with her tomorrow. Lightfoot on the other hand, I think is a more pressing matter to take care of.
Vote: Lightfoot
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Post by LightFoot on May 30, 2014 14:00:17 GMT -5
at the last minute- good form
watch Mary and Dizzy tomorrow friends
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Post by Colby11 on May 30, 2014 14:00:44 GMT -5
Day (and hopefully the negativity) is over... Though I doubt it
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Post by LightFoot on May 30, 2014 14:01:08 GMT -5
BTW all I could do it make one person vote one other person- that was all
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