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Post by swammerdami on Aug 26, 2014 5:55:44 GMT -5
Vote: ChameleonThe confessed anti-Town killer is a much better Lynch than Patricia, whose truthfulness is implied in the Day's opening color. Why are we trusting color again? Sorry, I misused the word "color." What I meant was: that everything is unfolding as Patricia said it would; she is truthful. A benefactor helped her become Human again ... and she did. The Poisoning she previously reported would Hollow her again, and it did. Patricia is doomed to die by Poison whether we Lynch her or not, unless she gets unHollowed once more. We need reveals. If we Lynch Chameleon, we get two or three reveals soon: Chameleon and (likely) Patricia and (likely) whichever of Guiri/BillMc Scum decides to finish off. My predictions for the reveals: Chameleon is Hostile, Patricia and Guiri are Town or non-Hostile, BillMc -- I dunno. I'm confused by Players who do not want to Lynch the confessed anti-Town Killer.
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Post by sinjin on Aug 26, 2014 9:19:23 GMT -5
Why are we trusting color again? Sorry, I misused the word "color." What I meant was: that everything is unfolding as Patricia said it would; she is truthful. A benefactor helped her become Human again ... and she did. The Poisoning she previously reported would Hollow her again, and it did. Patricia is doomed to die by Poison whether we Lynch her or not, unless she gets unHollowed once more. We need reveals. If we Lynch Chameleon, we get two or three reveals soon: Chameleon and (likely) Patricia and (likely) whichever of Guiri/BillMc Scum decides to finish off. My predictions for the reveals: Chameleon is Hostile, Patricia and Guiri are Town or non-Hostile, BillMc -- I dunno. I'm confused by Players who do not want to Lynch the confessed anti-Town Killer. When I read this it seems to say that if Patricia becomes human a second time she will be hollowed by the poison for the last time and then the poison will be neutralized. Maybe I'm misunderstanding the use of that phrase. [/b][/color] Patricia[/b][/color] Vote: chameleon Unvote:
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Post by sinjin on Aug 26, 2014 9:20:49 GMT -5
Well that went tits up:
Unvote: Patricia Vote: Chameleon
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Post by BillMc on Aug 26, 2014 10:05:54 GMT -5
Patricia is doomed to die by Poison whether we Lynch her or not, unless she gets unHollowed once more. We need reveals. If we Lynch Chameleon, we get two or three reveals soon: Chameleon and (likely) Patricia and (likely) whichever of Guiri/BillMc Scum decides to finish off. My predictions for the reveals: Chameleon is Hostile, Patricia and Guiri are Town or non-Hostile, BillMc -- I dunno. interesting......you seem absolutely convinced that it was scum that attacked guiri and i, and then quickly change to "i dunno" The discussion seems to focus around chameleon and patricia, and very little comment on the lack of other attacks or kills. clearly whoever mugged me yesterday had anti-town motives, as I'm probably the closest thing to a doc the town has and can protect multiple people at the same time Vote: swammer
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Post by Chameleon on Aug 26, 2014 11:10:55 GMT -5
I don't really have anything else to say. No one seems to want to listen so what am I supposed to do? I'm damned when I attack someone and I'm damned when I don't. Hollowed players are probably the most likely to be watched, so perhaps less likely to be attacked.
I'm rather pissed off that I've been quite truthful and yet get no credit for it whatsoever. I found myself in a shitty situation based entirely on misfortune and tried to be as honest as I could about it. What's the point if no one listens? And don't bullshit yourselves into thinking you've figured out anything - the reason I'm on the chopping block is because I was seen attacking a player that you all have decided to believe - shitty luck for me and that's what it comes down to.
Bill why did you question Sinjin's comments and then vote Swammi?
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Post by patricia on Aug 26, 2014 12:03:47 GMT -5
I have nothing to hide - Here is my PM from Story - Word for Word
You were incredibly popular on Night Two.
First, you have received a gift of 4 souls, giving you 6 in all.
A power was used on you allowing you to use the Human version of your power (costing only 2 souls).
You did this, restoring yourself to Humanity again (at a cost of 2 souls, leaving you with 4).
And THEN someone stuck a sword in you, driving you Hollow one more time (you lose 2 more souls, leaving you with 2).
And regrettably, the poison will still hit you one more time, at Dusk of Day Three - you will die at this time unless someone restores you to Humanity yet again during Day Three.
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Post by patricia on Aug 26, 2014 12:11:38 GMT -5
Patricia, Patsy, Patty, Pat, got anything for us? Are you really dying toDay? Are you WOTB? Got anything to say about the poisoning? Are you willing to help us at all? What is your alignment? If you are WOTB why are you not giving us any info? Are you just lurking because it seems like a Chameleon lynch will set you home free? "These are the questions we ask everyday....."* *Rosenshantz, the 70's. I have answered all of this - skimming much Vote: sinjin
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Post by patricia on Aug 26, 2014 12:15:35 GMT -5
I was writing this post as you posted that, Mahaloth. [ In other news, I was recruited to join the Dragon Remnant Covenant. I am refusing. The only information I was given about them was the name. Wish we knew more and this - whoever send this offer should be the person lynched today. they are not WOTB. Mental guy any clue as to who send this?
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Post by sinjin on Aug 26, 2014 13:06:29 GMT -5
Patricia is doomed to die by Poison whether we Lynch her or not, unless she gets unHollowed once more. We need reveals. If we Lynch Chameleon, we get two or three reveals soon: Chameleon and (likely) Patricia and (likely) whichever of Guiri/BillMc Scum decides to finish off. My predictions for the reveals: Chameleon is Hostile, Patricia and Guiri are Town or non-Hostile, BillMc -- I dunno. interesting......you seem absolutely convinced that it was scum that attacked guiri and i, and then quickly change to "i dunno" The discussion seems to focus around chameleon and patricia, and very little comment on the lack of other attacks or kills. clearly whoever mugged me yesterday had anti-town motives, as I'm probably the closest thing to a doc the town has and can protect multiple people at the same time Vote: swammer The quoted post was not made by me, it was made by swammerdami
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Post by Suburban Plankton on Aug 26, 2014 13:06:50 GMT -5
I'm confused by Players who do not want to Lynch the confessed anti-Town Killer. I think the issue here is with the 'anti-Town' part of the description. It is a certainty that Chameleon is a killer (unless she falsely confessed to attacking guiri, but I don't want to go there). What is less certain is her motivation, and her 'Towniness'. You seem quite certain that she's 'anti-Town', despite the fact that there is no evidence to support that conclusion. Nor is there any evidence to refute it; in fact, there is no real evidence whatsoever, since we don't know if guiri is Town, Scum, or Other...or do you have some information you're not sharing with the class? All this being said, it does seem that we're at pretty much a standstill until the Chameleon and patricia situations are resolved. It seems that we'll get some closure on patricia at Dusk, but then again, we've thought that before. And Chameleon seems to be the prohibitive favorite already at this point.
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Post by sinjin on Aug 26, 2014 13:17:07 GMT -5
Patricia, Patsy, Patty, Pat, got anything for us? Are you really dying toDay? Are you WOTB? Got anything to say about the poisoning? Are you willing to help us at all? What is your alignment? If you are WOTB why are you not giving us any info? Are you just lurking because it seems like a Chameleon lynch will set you home free? "These are the questions we ask everyday....."* *Rosenshantz, the 70's. I have answered all of this - skimming much Vote: sinjin Yes you finally answered in the post just before this after I poked you. Your only other post toDay was: If anyone was watching me last night please soapstone me the who and I should be able to put that together with the actions. According to our mod I had several visitors - one try to kill me LOL. and a warning if I do find out who - I will let everyone know. Thanks for the gift of souls (you know who you are) the killer got half btw.
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Post by Mahaloth on Aug 26, 2014 14:59:21 GMT -5
Story, can we have a hammer capability?
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Post by MentalGuy on Aug 26, 2014 19:04:47 GMT -5
I was writing this post as you posted that, Mahaloth. [ In other news, I was recruited to join the Dragon Remnant Covenant. I am refusing. The only information I was given about them was the name. Wish we knew more and this - whoever send this offer should be the person lynched today. they are not WOTB. Mental guy any clue as to who send this? I have no idea who sent it. All I was told was the name of the covenant, and that if I had a passive power as a result of my current covenant, it would change to the power of the new covenant. I was not given any indication if the covenant is hostile or non-hostile nor what their win on is.
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Post by swammerdami on Aug 26, 2014 22:23:48 GMT -5
Patricia is doomed to die by Poison whether we Lynch her or not, unless she gets unHollowed once more. We need reveals. If we Lynch Chameleon, we get two or three reveals soon: Chameleon and (likely) Patricia and (likely) whichever of Guiri/BillMc Scum decides to finish off. My predictions for the reveals: Chameleon is Hostile, Patricia and Guiri are Town or non-Hostile, BillMc -- I dunno. interesting......you seem absolutely convinced that it was scum that attacked guiri and i, and then quickly change to "i dunno" The discussion seems to focus around chameleon and patricia, and very little comment on the lack of other attacks or kills. clearly whoever mugged me yesterday had anti-town motives, as I'm probably the closest thing to a doc the town has and can protect multiple people at the same time Vote: swammer You're reading more into my comment than is there, Biller. There may be Hostile teams that don't know about each other. I have tentative non-Hostile reads on Guiri and Patricia, and no one else. Is that so very ominous as to require a vote? And did I miss your claim? You vote me as though I was supposed to know the underlined portion. More interestingly you write as though you think Scum knows you're a sort of super-doc. Why do you think that? FOS.
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Post by guiri on Aug 27, 2014 6:37:11 GMT -5
In other news, I was recruited to join the Dragon Remnant Covenant. I am refusing. The only information I was given about them was the name. Has the post-game thread from the first version been deleted? I think I remember Story said there would be changes to the recruitment to make offers more compelling or attractive, just the name doesn't seem to be much help. Why are we trusting color again? Good point! The discussion seems to focus around chameleon and patricia, and very little comment on the lack of other attacks or kills. Poisoning appeared to be a Day power with a two-part effect, no-one else has mentioned being poisoned but who knows, Chameleon says he didn't attack last Night, someone did attack Patricia, no-one has mentioned a failed attack or protection, how many other attacks or kills do you think there could have been? And don't bullshit yourselves into thinking you've figured out anything - the reason I'm on the chopping block is because I was seen attacking a player that you all have decided to believe - shitty luck for me and that's what it comes down to. Yeah, it is shitty luck to be watched attacking someone on Night 1 and not having a reasonable explanation. First, you have received a gift of 4 souls, giving you 6 in all. Has anyone else receive souls or soapstones? Is it entirely anonymous? Unofficial vote countChameleon (8): Abstain[2], Guiri[8], Mahaloth[12], Swammerdami[17], Dizzymrslizzy[18], MentalGuy[26], Bufftabby[30], Sinjin[33] Patricia (1): [del]Sinjin[11-33][/del], [del]Dizzymrslizzy[14-18][/del], Cookies[15] MentalGuy (1): Meeko[5] Swammerdami (1): BillMc[34] Sinjin (1): Patricia[37] Not Voting (5): Chameleon, Colby11, Peekercpa,SuburbanPlankton, Gnarlycharlie
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Post by guiri on Aug 27, 2014 7:34:42 GMT -5
What is less certain is her motivation, and her 'Towniness'. You seem quite certain that she's 'anti-Town', despite the fact that there is no evidence to support that conclusion. Nor is there any evidence to refute it; in fact, there is no real evidence whatsoever, since we don't know if guiri is Town, Scum, or Other First of all, she's said herself that she's not Town so her "Towniness" is covered. I don't think the "anti-town" is related to, or dependent on, my alignment, it's needing to kill a player who may be town, then shooting into the crowd at random, and then not following up on a strongly expressed suspicion, or attacking the other top suspect. Back to Bill's comment, we now have some sort of claim or evidence of 8 powers: - poisoning power (used D1 on Patricia) - attack (Chameleon N1 on Guiri) - Day attack (used D2 on Bill) - watch (saw Chameleon attack me) - attack with sword (used D2 on Patricia) - power boost (used N2 on Patricia) - unhollow (used on herself twice by Patricia) - multiplayer protect (Bill) Are there others I've missed?
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Post by sinjin on Aug 27, 2014 8:56:33 GMT -5
What is less certain is her motivation, and her 'Towniness'. You seem quite certain that she's 'anti-Town', despite the fact that there is no evidence to support that conclusion. Nor is there any evidence to refute it; in fact, there is no real evidence whatsoever, since we don't know if guiri is Town, Scum, or Other First of all, she's said herself that she's not Town so her "Towniness" is covered. I don't think the "anti-town" is related to, or dependent on, my alignment, it's needing to kill a player who may be town, then shooting into the crowd at random, and then not following up on a strongly expressed suspicion, or attacking the other top suspect. Back to Bill's comment, we now have some sort of claim or evidence of 8 powers: - poisoning power (used D1 on Patricia) - attack (Chameleon N1 on Guiri) - Day attack (used D2 on Bill) - watch (saw Chameleon attack me) - attack with sword (used D2 on Patricia) - power boost (used N2 on Patricia) - unhollow (used on herself twice by Patricia) - multiplayer protect (Bill) Are there others I've missed? You missed non-town recruiter...@ MentalGuy were you recruited in the Day or Night?
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Post by MentalGuy on Aug 27, 2014 14:56:28 GMT -5
You missed non-town recruiter...@ MentalGuy were you recruited in the Day or Night? [/quote] It was a night action. I was informed at the end of Night 2.
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Post by gnarlycharlie on Aug 28, 2014 10:36:52 GMT -5
i agree with the assessment that partricia seems to have been truthful. i also agree that doesn't say anything about her alignment. i wouldn't mind her lynched.
however i also agree that Chameleon's actions are strange. while she may be a killer and not necessarily scum, i don't understand why she didn't attack anyone last Night. it seems she needs to so she can achieve her wincon.even that's not the case, she could have attacked someone she believed was scum.
this behavior makes me think she may not be who she seems to be.
Vote: Chameleon
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