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Post by Meeko on Sept 15, 2014 21:45:26 GMT -5
Vote: EXTEND DAY
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Post by abstain on Sept 15, 2014 22:26:15 GMT -5
Dizzy and Mahaloth are both quiet, wonder if they're trying to avoid suspicion.
No real reasoning other then that, I haven't gone back and read, and won't for some time, this week is hectic.
Vote: extend day
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Post by swammerdami on Sept 16, 2014 1:08:19 GMT -5
Swammer- Drop this act. Unless you really did accept recruitment, because you are surely acting like it. What "act" is that, Colbber ? Why am I acting Scummy? Sinjin confirmed that I didn't accept recruitment into the Royal Rats. If I were a Dragon Remnant it's unlikely I would have informed guiri who attacked him. I think I'm as cleared as anyone in the game, except you, with your very pro-Town Power. I think we're left with one (less likely, two) Royal Rat and a Traitor. I've explained already why the Traitor most probably investigates as Town. For this reason, Non-hostile 3rd Parties are actually more cleared than Townies! OTOH, we don't know the Scum win-cons. It's possible we don't need to Lynch the Town Traitor. But who is Scum? Below is a list of the remaining Players. Two Players of unknown alignment have voting and discussion records which suggest they are not allied with Remnants nor Rats. Of the two Players marked " ", I've no particular reason to think either is Scummy; they just stand out by process of elimination. guiri didn't participate in the Patricia Lynching (but neither did I). It might be that Dizzy or Mahaloth are Rats and took pains to bus their teammate. Bufftabby has been acting pro-Town, helped Lynch both Remnant and Rat. There is also a Town Traitor and there my suspicion still falls most heavily on Meeko, though it might be guiri or abstain. Town Colby11 Town? Sinjin Town? Gnarlycharlie Town-inv Bufftabby Town-inv Meeko Non-Hostile ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies Non-Hostile Swammerdami GoodVotes Dizzymrslizzy GoodVotes Mahaloth ?? Guiri ?? Abstain I have a weak Investigative Power, now useless since I'm out of Souls. I can report that neither Chameleon nor Gnarlycharlie is the Traitor. That's all -- I'd have called it a very weak Investigative role except I also learned that Chameleon attacked guiri, and gnarly did a Townish deed.
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Post by guiri on Sept 16, 2014 3:43:28 GMT -5
Does the vote history maybe hold a clue? Guiri, you're so good with that in the past, mind doing it again? Flattery will get you nowhere... color coded per player, e&oe: Maha: D1- Patricia, D2- PatriciaChameleon, D3- Chameleon, D4-Meeko, D5- No VoteWas voted by D1- Dizzy, D5-Swammi Guiri: D1- Patricia, D2- Chameleon, D3- Chameleon, D4- Suburban, D5- SuburbanWas voted by D2- Chameleon, D5-Colby, MeekoDizzy: D1- MahaPatricia, D2- Chameleon, D3- PatriciaChameleon, D4- Suburban, D5-Meeko Was voted by D1-Swammi, Colby, PeekerSinjin: D1- Patricia, D2- Chameleon, D3- PatriciaChameleon, D4- Suburban, D5- SuburbanWas voted by D3- PatriciaGnarly: D1-Buff, D2- Patricia, D3- Chameleon, D4- No Vote, D5- SuburbanWas voted by D2- BillAbstain: D1- SwammiMental, D2- No Vote, D3- Chameleon, D4- CookiesBuff, D5- SuburbanWas voted by D4-Buff, CookiesColby: Voted D1- DizzyPatricia, D2- Chameleon, D3- No Vote, D4- No Vote, D5-Guiri Was voted by D1- PatriciaBuff: D1- No Vote, D2- Patricia, D3- Chameleon, D4-Abstain, D5-Swammi Was voted by D1-Gnarly, D4-Abstain Cookies: D1- Chameleon, D2- No Vote, D3- Patricia, D4- AbstainSuburban, D5-Meeko Was voted by D4- Abstain, Swammi Swammi: D1-Dizzy, D2- Chameleon, D3- Chameleon, D4-Cookies, D5-Meeko Was voted by D1- Abstain, Suburban, D3- Bill, D5- MeekoMeeko, Buff Meeko: D1- No Vote, D2- PatriciaMentalGuy, D3- MentalGuy, D4- MentalGuy, D5- SwammiGuiriSwammi Was voted by: D2- MentalGuy, Patricia, D4-Mahaloth, D5-Swammi, Cookies, Dizzy Of the un-investigated players excluding Colby, everyone except Abstain voted Patricia: Gnarly and I once, Maha, Sinjin and Dizzy: twice. Sinjin was also voted by Patricia on D3. On D3 Patricia was due to die by Poison, scum may have attempted to bus her then since they had no hope of saving her. Everyone voted Chameleon - who was basically caught red-handed, most twice except Gnarly and Abstain who voted the second time only. Sinjin and I voted Suburban twice, Gnarly and Abstain again voted the second time, Dizzy just the first. I'm not sure how the two-phase kill would affect bussing and the value of the vote record: - Being hollowed isn't as significant as being lynched outright - Presumably scum knew that Patricia could be healed
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Post by guiri on Sept 16, 2014 3:45:40 GMT -5
One person changed alignment last night. Wow, if that person became WOTB, maybe we can soft confirm both the recruiter and the recruited?
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Post by bufftabby on Sept 16, 2014 7:40:51 GMT -5
vote Extend Day
We've got some discussion going and no vote leader, and barely any votes. Let's extend the Day and do this right.
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Post by guiri on Sept 16, 2014 7:49:07 GMT -5
Vote Extend Day
I have a small ping from Mahaloth due to his "oh noes, no-one's participating" while not adding much himself while he was here. His last post was N4 when he mentioned he had no internet connection so there's a chance a modkill will resolve that.
Dizzy's vote on Suburban on D4 and then her memory lapse really stands out. On D4 she voted him for something he didn't do, then upon a re-read found an entire different reason to vote him, and kept the vote there. Then the next day seemed to forget who she'd voted for previously or why. However she was the first to vote Patricia apart from Bill's poke.
Sinjin's got a perfect voting record, hasn't really been on my radar at all. She suggested a claim so may have some info to share.
Gnarly is suspicious for phoning it in - I count a total of 5 Day posts. His D2 vote on Patricia feels a little fabricated, given all the other reasons to vote her.
Ping on abstain, his references to the (other) game despite the moderator's warnings could be a ploy to mislead, or just over zealousness... I don't see much scum hunting going on: poke votes, a little magic bag, lots of color.
No strong reads on any of the five so fine with any lynch, maybe gnarly a little over the others, and sinjin less than the others.
Vote Gnarly
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Post by dizzymrslizzy on Sept 16, 2014 8:08:44 GMT -5
I'm all for Vote: Extend Day. I need to catch up here badly. Ugh
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Post by swammerdami on Sept 16, 2014 8:10:42 GMT -5
I have a small ping from Mahaloth due to his "oh noes, no-one's participating" while not adding much himself while he was here. His last post was N4 when he mentioned he had no internet connection so there's a chance a modkill will resolve that. Dizzy's vote on Suburban on D4 and then her memory lapse really stands out.... Gnarly is suspicious for phoning it in - I count a total of 5 Day posts. His D2 vote on Patricia feels a little fabricated, given all the other reasons to vote her. Ping on abstain ... Vote GnarlyI notice that Mahaloth has been posting very frequently the past few days at SDMB. I'd be happy to join a bandwagon on him. Abstain and Dizzy are also near the top of my suspect list. I am surprised at your vote on Gnarly. Have you even read my posts? Vote: Extend Day
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Post by dizzymrslizzy on Sept 16, 2014 8:20:25 GMT -5
So we have 1 vote each on:
Mahaloth Meeko Swammi Gnarly
Swammer, I believe your claim, but what kind of result DID you get on Gnarly? Just that he's not the Traitor?
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Post by swammerdami on Sept 16, 2014 8:26:35 GMT -5
Swammer, I believe your claim, but what kind of result DID you get on Gnarly? Just that he's not the Traitor? May I call you Dizzier ? I've exchanged PM's with Gnarly and don't want to breach confidentiality. If he wants to claim, I may be able to confirm. Meanwhile, I don't think he's Scum; those that do must mistrust me.
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Post by dizzymrslizzy on Sept 16, 2014 8:29:41 GMT -5
I'm just trying to figure out where I am on your clearing of Gnarly? Because I don't find Gnarly very "Townie". First you implied that you got an investigative result that Gnarly isn't the Traitor, and now are you saying that you exchanged PMs with him, and know from THAT conversation that he's not the Traitor?
Which is it?
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Post by dizzymrslizzy on Sept 16, 2014 8:35:48 GMT -5
In the meanwhile, because I'm going to be out for the rest of the morning, I'm going to continue my vote on Meeko from Day 5.
Again my case on him is his over-reaction to some pressure from Swammi in a case that I thought made sense for Meeko as the Traitor.
Vote: Meeko
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Post by guiri on Sept 16, 2014 9:01:05 GMT -5
Swammer, I believe your claim, but what kind of result DID you get on Gnarly? Just that he's not the Traitor? May I call you Dizzier ? I've exchanged PM's with Gnarly and don't want to breach confidentiality. If he wants to claim, I may be able to confirm. Meanwhile, I don't think he's Scum; those that do must mistrust me. You said you thought he did something townish, I did not see this as a claim or a vote of confidence. I believe his play has been scummish and that's where my vote is, I do not see how that reflects on you in any way. I'll reconsider my vote if any new information becomes available.
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Post by Meeko on Sept 16, 2014 9:19:27 GMT -5
In the meanwhile, because I'm going to be out for the rest of the morning, I'm going to continue my vote on Meeko from Day 5. Again my case on him is his over-reaction to some pressure from Swammi in a case that I thought made sense for Meeko as the Traitor. I begin to fear that those that won't think for themselves is the bigger threat than those that won't play for themselves.
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Post by Meeko on Sept 16, 2014 9:20:22 GMT -5
I would love to hear Colby and Bufftabby am I overlooking anything gang?
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Post by dizzymrslizzy on Sept 16, 2014 9:20:48 GMT -5
I have a weak Investigative Power, now useless since I'm out of Souls. I can report that neither Chameleon nor Gnarlycharlie is the Traitor. That's all -- I'd have called it a very weak Investigative role except I also learned that Chameleon attacked guiri, and gnarly did a Townish deed. This here is what I was referring to Guiri Swammi is claiming that Gnarly is not the Traitor. Yet it's not clear how he got that information.
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Post by Meeko on Sept 16, 2014 9:22:34 GMT -5
I'm just trying to figure out where I am on your clearing of Gnarly? Because I don't find Gnarly very "Townie". First you implied that you got an investigative result that Gnarly isn't the Traitor, and now are you saying that you exchanged PMs with him, and know from THAT conversation that he's not the Traitor? Which is it? Or that, they from conversation, that he IS the traitor, and they need to get their story straight.
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Post by Meeko on Sept 16, 2014 9:36:21 GMT -5
Sinjin confirmed that I didn't accept recruitment into the Royal Rats. If I were a Dragon Remnant it's unlikely I would have informed guiri who attacked him. I think I'm as cleared as anyone in the game, except you, with your very pro-Town Power. I think we're left with one (less likely, two) Royal Rat and a Traitor. I've explained already why the Traitor most probably investigates as Town. For this reason, Non-hostile 3rd Parties are actually more cleared than Townies! There is also a Town Traitor and there my suspicion still falls most heavily on Meeko, though it might be guiri or abstain. I have a weak Investigative Power, now useless since I'm out of Souls. I can report that neither Chameleon nor Gnarlycharlie is the Traitor. That's all -- I'd have called it a very weak Investigative role except I also learned that Chameleon attacked guiri, and gnarly did a Townish deed. Unvote: UNVOTE ALL Vote: SINJINSinjin confirmed that I didn't accept recruitment into the Royal Rats. If I were a Dragon Remnant it's unlikely I would have informed guiri who attacked him. I think I'm as cleared as anyone in the game, except you, with your very pro-Town Power. Swammer is already against town. Not accepting recruitment into town proves this. Therefore, town cannot accept what Swammer says at face value. The very, very slick, passive "Oh hey, and by the way, Sinjin is town" comment here reeks. Swammer knows that there is virtually no pressure on them, and likely won't be for the rest of the game, if things continue. Once Swammer has a pass, what better time than to pass through others who are also against town, perhaps even "further" against town, I.E. Hostile. I begin to wonder if Swammer isn't the traitor.The entire traitor business has been your personal fetish for a while now. I wonder if it's not projection. Note the backpedal now, getting off of me. Too little too late. I think you just stepped in it. I can report that neither Chameleon nor Gnarlycharlie is the Traitor. Please show your work here. Why did you give them a pass at not being traitor? How do they pass, but I don't?
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Post by Meeko on Sept 16, 2014 9:41:10 GMT -5
Unvote: sinjin Vote: Swammer
After the color, you guys are virtually the same, on a numerical value.
Yes, I'm playing the numbers here.
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Post by bufftabby on Sept 16, 2014 9:44:49 GMT -5
Meeko has PMed me (and presumably Colby, based on his post above) his role info. If what he says is true, he might be worth keeping alive for the moment. The PM is consistent with his claim that he has no power/ability, and makes sense.
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Post by Meeko on Sept 16, 2014 9:48:39 GMT -5
Meeko has PMed me (and presumably Colby, based on his post above) his role info. If what he says is true, he might be worth keeping alive for the moment. The PM is consistent with his claim that he has no power/ability, and makes sense. I can confirm that I have done this.OF COURSE, IF OUR MOD WAS MORE ACTIVE IN THIS GAME THAN PEEKER WAS, IT WOULD BE A LOT EASIER FOR TOWN TO WIN THIS THING.
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Post by Meeko on Sept 16, 2014 9:50:36 GMT -5
Meeko has PMed me (and presumably Colby, based on his post above) his role info. If what he says is true, he might be worth keeping alive for the moment. The PM is consistent with his claim that he has no power/ability, and makes sense. Bufftabby let me know when I can take you out for a drink sometime,please.
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Post by swammerdami on Sept 16, 2014 10:20:01 GMT -5
Sinjin has claimed a specifc Power and proved it to my satisfaction. It's the type of role that would almost certainly be given to Non-hostile 3rd-party or to Town, but not to Scum. Moreover, Scum would have little incentive to reveal her results. Thus, Sinjin is Non-Hostile. Latest developments weaken the case against Meeker. It remains certain that there is a Traitor, and likely that the Traitor Investigates as Town, but he might be Mahaloth, abstain or Guiri instead of Meeker. Unvote: Meeker
Vote: Mahaloth"I can report that neither Chameleon nor Gnarlycharlie is the Traitor." Please show your work here. Why did you give them a pass at not being traitor? How do they pass, but I don't?I revealed much about my Power in an earlier post toDay. Players just didn't pick up on it. In any event, it is Mod-confirmed that neither Chameleon nor Gnarly is the Traitor. I'd have Investigated Meeker if I could, but my Power lacks that flexibility.
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Post by Meeko on Sept 16, 2014 10:54:00 GMT -5
Unvote: All
Vote: Mahaloth
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Post by guiri on Sept 16, 2014 11:34:51 GMT -5
I support a Mahaloth lynch, especially if what Swammi says is true, exceedingly anti-game, and hypocritical.
Unvote Vote Mahaloth
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Post by storyteller0910 on Sept 16, 2014 13:11:47 GMT -5
Per your collective vote, Day is extended through Thursday at 12:30PM Eastern.
Meeko -
Since privately appealing to you to ease up on the unpleasantness did not work, and since indeed you've decided to ratchet it up in public, I will say in public the following. Your dissatisfaction with my moderation and with this game are noted. Repeating it over and over is unnecessary.[/b
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Post by Meeko on Sept 16, 2014 16:04:13 GMT -5
Per your collective vote, Day is extended through Thursday at 12:30PM Eastern.
Meeko -
Since privately appealing to you to ease up on the unpleasantness did not work, and since indeed you've decided to ratchet it up in public, I will say in public the following. Your dissatisfaction with my moderation and with this game are noted. Repeating it over and over is unnecessary.[/b Noted.
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Post by sinjin on Sept 16, 2014 16:40:25 GMT -5
Swammer, I believe your claim, but what kind of result DID you get on Gnarly? Just that he's not the Traitor? May I call you Dizzier ? I've exchanged PM's with Gnarly and don't want to breach confidentiality. If he wants to claim, I may be able to confirm. Meanwhile, I don't think he's Scum; those that do must mistrust me. [ot] Just so you know Swammerdami that people in the US frequently add 'er' or 'ster' to the end of folks names. We call our friend Nancy, Nanster, our grandaughter Lil, Lilster. We also love to abbreviate names: peekercpa becomes peeker or peek, hence we look at Swammerdami and immediately abbreviate it to 'Swammer'. I know you have said you prefer to be called Swami, but a lot of us don't pay attention or forget. A piece of advice: If you want to be called Swami make that your user name. [/ot] Vote: vote extend daySorry for not being here this day. We are leaving on a 6-7 month trip tomorrow. Hahahahaha, I thought this game would be over. However, as I will be the navigator, I will be able to participate once we get on the road.
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Post by sinjin on Sept 16, 2014 18:59:56 GMT -5
I would like to know who received a recruitment offer last Night and how they responded. Please note I am not the one who receives the results of recruitment. I also think it might be time to claim. I said this YesterDay, but no one responded.
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