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Post by abstain on Sept 23, 2014 18:36:38 GMT -5
I'll put my money where my mouth is. Speak up cookies, no more games today. As I explained above, it is impossible for either Cookies or Swammi to be Scum unless Cookies is lying ANDSwammi is lying AND
One of the following: Town Detective Colby is lying or Town Recruitment-Count Reporter Sinjin is lying or Non-Hostile Swammi is mysteriously aiding Cookies or Non-Hostile Cookies is mysteriously aiding Swammi. I'd ask those accusing either Cookies or myself how they reconcile their suspicion with my argument. You do realise that this isn't the point of my accusation. Based on a pure guess, one of gnarly and guiri are probably scum. I don;t think we've heard from gnarly today.
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Post by abstain on Sept 23, 2014 18:38:13 GMT -5
1. Guiri (Human) ?? - WOTB - inventor 2. Meeko (Human) WOTB - scanned, attacked swammer afaik 3. Colby11 (Human) WOTB - claimed investigator 4. Dizzymrslizzy (Human) BOB - claimed brotherhood of blood, possibly competing with cookies 5. Bufftabby (HOLLOW) WOTB - attacked, there was some other thing I can;t remember - claims meeko is town or something 6. Sinjin (Human) WOTB - mason 7. Gnarlycharlie (Human) ?? - zip? 8. Cometothedarksidewehavecookies (HOLLOW) COC won't tll anything of value 9. Abstain (HOLLOW) WOTB - has a self confirming claim, not much else 10. Swammerdami (HOLLOW) - COC - previously pilgrims of dark
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Post by guiri on Sept 23, 2014 18:44:33 GMT -5
Is it odd that two of these are calling for claims yet unwilling to start? Who's unwilling? I asked for either a confirmed mason, or if there are none, Colby or Bufftabby to set a claim order at the start of the Day. Guiri if you are really interested in the unclaimed/investigated pool, claim. I am on the verge of changing my vote from Meeko to you. You have talked the talk on claiming but not walked the walk. And here I was waiting for you, Colby or Bufftabby to start... What's happening with the mass claim? Do we set a claim order, do a free for all and spend the rest of the Day waiting, or pressure vote individual players into claiming? I asked for the masons, Colby or Bufftabby to lead. I don't have much to reveal but may be able to confirm or counter some other players' actions so would prefer to follow a claim order. I'm Pharros the Vagabond, WotB, inventor, and I have a power that I've used three times. I can track a player and, rather than learn what they did, I use my mechanical ability to build a single use replica of whatever action the other player took which I can then use. N1 I tracked Cookies and she did not do anything. N2 I tracked Suburban and he watched someone, I built an owl which allowed me to watch a player and see who visited them. N3 I tried to use the owl on abstain but was blocked. N4 I used the owl on Meeko, and saw Colby use an investigative power on him. N5 I tracked Colby, hoping to gain an additional investigation, but he didn't use any power. Didn't have enough souls to track N6.
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Post by abstain on Sept 23, 2014 18:47:57 GMT -5
Okay, that is a good start. Basically means we are missing something from Gnarly today.
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Post by sinjin on Sept 23, 2014 19:01:20 GMT -5
So swami/cookies. Are you planning on killing me now? Not knowing what cookies PM says and her win con is quite disconcerting at this point. Ya see cookies isn't claiming (and I'm assuming from reading in between the lines) because I am playing a side game with another covenant which in assuming is cookies/swammi. But since I've been called out and well who knows their win con could be to find and kill me for all I know. I am third party non hostile. My side of the game is similar to a bingo player as my whole win con is a side game that I will not elaborate more on. All I can say is that I'm Town sided. Um what?
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Post by swammerdami on Sept 23, 2014 19:02:46 GMT -5
Okay, that is a good start. Basically means we are missing something from Gnarly today. I know much about Gnarly's Power (and have told Cookies) and I will reveal it publicly if he doesn't show up. I'm clearly neither Scum nor Traitor. So why don't you go ahead and claim, abstain?
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Post by abstain on Sept 23, 2014 19:12:40 GMT -5
What possible role is left?
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Post by swammerdami on Sept 23, 2014 19:26:58 GMT -5
What possible role is left? I dunno ... Traitor? I have a guess what your role is, but I don't want to put words in your mouth. If you come clean completely, I'll probably move my vote.
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Post by abstain on Sept 23, 2014 19:29:37 GMT -5
Mason.
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Post by sinjin on Sept 23, 2014 19:39:39 GMT -5
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Post by Meeko on Sept 23, 2014 19:59:54 GMT -5
Is it odd that two of these are calling for claims yet unwilling to start? Who's unwilling? I asked for either a confirmed mason, or if there are none, Colby or Bufftabby to set a claim order at the start of the Day. Guiri if you are really interested in the unclaimed/investigated pool, claim. I am on the verge of changing my vote from Meeko to you. You have talked the talk on claiming but not walked the walk. And here I was waiting for you, Colby or Bufftabby to start... What's happening with the mass claim? Do we set a claim order, do a free for all and spend the rest of the Day waiting, or pressure vote individual players into claiming? I asked for the masons, Colby or Bufftabby to lead. I don't have much to reveal but may be able to confirm or counter some other players' actions so would prefer to follow a claim order. I'm Pharros the Vagabond, WotB, inventor, and I have a power that I've used three times. I can track a player and, rather than learn what they did, I use my mechanical ability to build a single use replica of whatever action the other player took which I can then use. N1 I tracked Cookies and she did not do anything. N2 I tracked Suburban and he watched someone, I built an owl which allowed me to watch a player and see who visited them. N3 I tried to use the owl on abstain but was blocked. N4 I used the owl on Meeko, and saw Colby use an investigative power on him. N5 I tracked Colby, hoping to gain an additional investigation, but he didn't use any power. Didn't have enough souls to track N6. N4 I used the owl on Meeko, and saw Colby use an investigative power on him.So you are confirming that I was indeed investigated? That Colby is indeed an Investigator? If only those people voting me would read that....
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Post by Meeko on Sept 23, 2014 20:03:38 GMT -5
What possible role is left? A more, but still less, conventional Jack Of All Trades but abstain probably wouldn't be that. There wouldn't be two of us
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Post by Meeko on Sept 23, 2014 20:04:56 GMT -5
So......
Unvote: ALL
Vote: Gnarly
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Post by abstain on Sept 23, 2014 20:05:11 GMT -5
So that leaves Gnarly, which apparently Swammer knows something about.
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Post by Meeko on Sept 23, 2014 20:06:15 GMT -5
and I'd like to thank Colby for handing the game to scum at this point.
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Post by swammerdami on Sept 23, 2014 20:26:03 GMT -5
So you are confirming that I was indeed investigated? That Colby is indeed an Investigator? If only those people voting me would read that.... I don't know about others, but my Votes on you were always based on the idea that you are the Town Traitor. I still think that's likely. Unvote: AbstainWe still haven't heard from Bufftabby, I think. And who was the trusted Player who gave recruitment counts to Sinjin? Abstain? But most importantly, Who is the Killer? Who attacked Cookies last Night? It would seem an unusual play for Scum. Was that you, DizzyMrsLizzy? Did you attack my teammate? Fess up, please; we won't Lynch you anyway. Anyway, I'd spill what I know about Gnarly, but would prefer to let him and Bufftabby post first. Cookies knows the Gnarly Power that I know about and is welcome to post it -- I'm off to bed. Guiri also should have figured it out from all my hints, but feigns ignorance. For now, I'll mention just one hint I got from the PM Gnarly sent me: he seemed in doubt what alignment Guiri was. ... And speaking of guiri, he's looking Scummier and Scummier by process of elimination. This is not a new conclusion on my part; Guiri has not been playing as the Townie Guiri I remember. Perhaps his claimed Power is true, but that's a Power Scum might have. His treatment of Chameleon (querying rather than moving quickly to Lynch) might indeed be what Scum would do. Perhaps he was deciding whether to "Track" her. Or perhaps the whole role and actions he claimed were a clever concoction. Vote: Guiri
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Post by Meeko on Sept 23, 2014 20:27:18 GMT -5
Welcome to the Game; you are Stone Trader ChloanneYou are a wanderer. You've traveled down to the poison pools of Harvest Valley and up to the very peaks of the Dragon Aerie... and because the undead curse is affecting your memory and you were never all that together in the first place, you then traveled down to the poison pools of Harvest Valley and up to the very peaks of the Dragon Aerie, and down to the poison pools of Harvest Valley and up... well, you get the idea. You've collected a number of curious artifacts in your journey, and they constitute the extent of your power. You drifted onto the Way of the Blue not out of any particular conviction, but because a small squirrel lead you in that direction: who knows where the next squirrel might lead?STARTING COVENANT: The Way of the BlueSTARTING SOULS: 3 STARTING SOAPSTONES: 8 (w); 1 (o) ABILITIESNOTE: Unlike most players in this game, you have neither a passive nor an active ability. What you do have is [redacted] items. Each is good for one use only, and you can use only one per Day/Night Cycle; unlike the abilities of your more powerful companions, however: (1) using these items costs you no souls; (2) items may be used by Day or by Night; and (3) becoming Hollow does not affect your ability to use items in any way. Note that if you wish you may pass items to other players rather than use them yourself. A lot of interesting stuff was mentioned here. It's a shame you didn't know the role back then. In fact, I know you didn't know the role at all, but it means so much to me know that you care. And now, some classic dummy text, for our dearly redacted Items. Usually given in Latin, but I prefer the English. Some deep shit here, natch : But I must explain to you how all this mistaken idea of denouncing pleasure and praising pain was born and I will give you a complete account of the system, and expound the actual teachings of the great explorer of the truth, the master-builder of human happiness. No one rejects, dislikes, or avoids pleasure itself, because it is pleasure, but because those who do not know how to pursue pleasure rationally encounter consequences that are extremely painful. Nor again is there anyone who loves or pursues or desires to obtain pain of itself, because it is pain, but because occasionally circumstances occur in which toil and pain can procure him some great pleasure. To take a trivial example, which of us ever undertakes laborious physical exercise, except to obtain some advantage from it? But who has any right to find fault with a man who chooses to enjoy a pleasure that has no annoying consequences, or one who avoids a pain that produces no resultant pleasure?"
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Post by sinjin on Sept 23, 2014 20:33:48 GMT -5
What possible role is left? A more, but still less, conventional Jack Of All Trades but abstain probably wouldn't be that. There wouldn't be two of us You are a jerk and anti-town even if you are town. Jack of all Trades is a power role by any definition.
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Post by abstain on Sept 23, 2014 20:37:51 GMT -5
This is not the time for hints, and gnarly hasn't spoken yet. Just tell us what you know.
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Post by Meeko on Sept 23, 2014 20:39:10 GMT -5
You are a jerk and anti-town even if you are town. Jack of all Trades is a power role by any definition. You sure did phrase this awkwardly. It almost gives off the voice of being third party.
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Post by Meeko on Sept 23, 2014 20:42:29 GMT -5
You are a jerk and anti-town even if you are town. Jack of all Trades is a power role by any definition. Jack of all Trades is a power role by any definition. Except for you know, the one that was handed to me for this game. I'm pointing and laughing.
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Post by abstain on Sept 23, 2014 20:43:17 GMT -5
Sinjin is town.... Swammer, you need to start spilling. And Colby needs to show up. I'm almost convinced he's scum at this point.
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Post by swammerdami on Sept 23, 2014 20:49:57 GMT -5
I lost my Special Covenant Power when I joined the Company of Champions, but I still have my Personal Power. I don't know if we need to Lynch a single Player or two (Scum and Traitor), but my Watching Power allows me to determine whether a Player is the Traitor or not.
Suspect Traitors include (in roughly decreasing order of likelihood) Meeko, Guiri, Bufftabby, Abstain, Sinjin. If any of these Players wants me to confirm that he/she is NOT the Traitor please PM me, after Dusk, with your Night action.
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Post by Meeko on Sept 23, 2014 20:51:41 GMT -5
I lost my Special Covenant Power when I joined the Company of Champions, but I still have my Personal Power. I don't know if we need to Lynch a single Player or two (Scum and Traitor), but my Watching Power allows me to determine whether a Player is the Traitor or not.Suspect Traitors include (in roughly decreasing order of likelihood) Meeko, Guiri, Bufftabby, Abstain, Sinjin. If any of these Players wants me to confirm that he/she is NOT the Traitor please PM me, after Dusk, with your Night action. Do what now?
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Post by sinjin on Sept 23, 2014 20:52:14 GMT -5
I would rather you confirm that Meeko is or is not the traitor. Abstain and I confirm each other.
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Post by Meeko on Sept 23, 2014 20:56:23 GMT -5
I lost my Special Covenant Power when I joined the Company of Champions, but I still have my Personal Power. I don't know if we need to Lynch a single Player or two (Scum and Traitor), but my Watching Power allows me to determine whether a Player is the Traitor or not.Suspect Traitors include (in roughly decreasing order of likelihood) Meeko, Guiri, Bufftabby, Abstain, Sinjin. If any of these Players wants me to confirm that he/she is NOT the Traitor please PM me, after Dusk, with your Night action. The Fatal Flaw with this, is that it demands that another player still have capital to give to Swammi. That is to say, it's pay for play. There should not, under good game building come to pass where a player would require this .... Holy blessing ....... While he or she is bankrupt on various items. In short, the payment required to you, to hire your services is one step too far. If you are this, it should be pro bono, at all times, given how fractional it is. It's merely a cantrip and your treating it like it were level 4 or 5.
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Post by sinjin on Sept 23, 2014 20:58:14 GMT -5
Welcome to the Game; you are Stone Trader ChloanneYou are a wanderer. You've traveled down to the poison pools of Harvest Valley and up to the very peaks of the Dragon Aerie... and because the undead curse is affecting your memory and you were never all that together in the first place, you then traveled down to the poison pools of Harvest Valley and up to the very peaks of the Dragon Aerie, and down to the poison pools of Harvest Valley and up... well, you get the idea. You've collected a number of curious artifacts in your journey, and they constitute the extent of your power. You drifted onto the Way of the Blue not out of any particular conviction, but because a small squirrel lead you in that direction: who knows where the next squirrel might lead?STARTING COVENANT: The Way of the BlueSTARTING SOULS: 3 STARTING SOAPSTONES: 8 (w); 1 (o) ABILITIESNOTE: Unlike most players in this game, you have neither a passive nor an active ability. What you do have is [redacted] items. Each is good for one use only, and you can use only one per Day/Night Cycle; unlike the abilities of your more powerful companions, however: (1) using these items costs you no souls; (2) items may be used by Day or by Night; and (3) becoming Hollow does not affect your ability to use items in any way. Note that if you wish you may pass items to other players rather than use them yourself. A lot of interesting stuff was mentioned here. It's a shame you didn't know the role back then. In fact, I know you didn't know the role at all, but it means so much to me know that you care.
And now, some classic dummy text, for our dearly redacted Items. Usually given in Latin, but I prefer the English. Some deep shit here, natch :
But I must explain to you how all this mistaken idea of denouncing pleasure and praising pain was born and I will give you a complete account of the system, and expound the actual teachings of the great explorer of the truth, the master-builder of human happiness. No one rejects, dislikes, or avoids pleasure itself, because it is pleasure, but because those who do not know how to pursue pleasure rationally encounter consequences that are extremely painful. Nor again is there anyone who loves or pursues or desires to obtain pain of itself, because it is pain, but because occasionally circumstances occur in which toil and pain can procure him some great pleasure. To take a trivial example, which of us ever undertakes laborious physical exercise, except to obtain some advantage from it? But who has any right to find fault with a man who chooses to enjoy a pleasure that has no annoying consequences, or one who avoids a pain that produces no resultant pleasure?"
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Post by swammerdami on Sept 23, 2014 21:00:16 GMT -5
... I Watched Gnarly Restore guiri to Human Night 3, and simultaneously Block him. I PM'ed him, asking him to do the same for me; I think he did. I assume the Blocking is an unintended but unavoidable side-effect of the Restoration.
True, he could have been Scum restoring his Scum teammate, but that would make too many Scum and, anyway, why then did he do the same favor for me? (I do know I was also Blocked as well as Restored Night 4.)
I think Gnarly is Townie with a pro-Town Power and assumed (incorrectly?) that guiri was also Town, so helped him. If we stipulate that at most one of {Gnarly, Guiri} is Scum, I think this clears Gnarly. My Power also revealed, the same Night 3, that Gnarly is NOT the Traitor.
There. Now you know what I know.
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Post by sinjin on Sept 23, 2014 21:00:41 GMT -5
I find it hard to believe that story wrote the bolded portion of Meeko's post. May just be me. Sorry for the double post, but traveling.
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Post by Meeko on Sept 23, 2014 21:09:40 GMT -5
I find it hard to believe that story wrote the bolded portion of Meeko's post. May just be me. Sorry for the double post, but traveling. Yeah, I kinda tipped my hand way back up where I started with [Redacted]. So I mean, if I redacted that, it should follow.
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