Death By Irony
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Day Six
Mar 7, 2008 12:33:02 GMT -5
Post by Death By Irony on Mar 7, 2008 12:33:02 GMT -5
Piratepete had been feeling strange ever since he woke from that strange dream of a previous life. Despite the victory of having eliminated a faction, he felt more ill than ever. "What's wrong with me?" he wondered. "Is it something I ate?" Feeling the urge to vomit, he lit a candle with trembling hands and stumbled towards the outhouse, but he never made it... Piratepete was thus found unconscious by the town. Examination of his body found strange discoloration on his skin, but no other obvious symptoms. Ancient China lacking modern forensic science, they could not puzzle out what killed the unfortunate man. Piratepete, Peasant, died via arsenic laced underwear. (Does Ancient China even HAVE underwear?) It is now Day 6. With 4 alive, it takes 3 to lynch.
The Day will end 11:59 PM EDT March 12 or when a player has 3 votes.
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Santo Rugger
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Day Six
Mar 7, 2008 12:35:34 GMT -5
Post by Santo Rugger on Mar 7, 2008 12:35:34 GMT -5
Clever, cookies. cookies and mhaye are the last scum.
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Day Six
Mar 7, 2008 12:41:50 GMT -5
Post by Pleonast on Mar 7, 2008 12:41:50 GMT -5
Well, no matter who are the scum, we (the Town) can't win. If we lynch scum, the other one will kill one of us, leaving it one Town, one Faction on the last Day. No lynch, and then the final Night kill.
By lynching one Faction, we assure victory to the other. Not very palatable to me. So it comes down to playing for stalemate. Vote Pleonast
The other Townie should vote for me. If a scum doesn't hammer, then there'll be no lynch. Whatever happens, Town should only vote for Town from here on out.
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Day Six
Mar 7, 2008 12:43:12 GMT -5
Post by Santo Rugger on Mar 7, 2008 12:43:12 GMT -5
Sorry, meant to bold instead of post. It would be nice if the Liu/Shu person told us who they were, so that the Tsao/Wei person wouldn't be able to kill whomever Pleo decides to protect between him and me Tonight. Not that I see that happening, but it'd be really, really nice of you. Does anybody care to confess? I'm pretty confident that both cookies and mhaye know each other are scum by now. -Now- I can give myself that slaphead smile for believing cookies!
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Santo Rugger
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Day Six
Mar 7, 2008 12:45:56 GMT -5
Post by Santo Rugger on Mar 7, 2008 12:45:56 GMT -5
Actually, Pleo, if you decide to protect me or you tonight, and we kill a Liu/Shu, we still have a 50/50 shot that they'll pick the same one of us that you do... we can do better than a stalemate, and you should take your vote off of yourself so they can't hammer... it'd be a guaranteed stalemate (because I wouldn't vote Tomorrow if they didn't kill me, and if they did it'd be a stalemate as soon as I died. The way I see it, we still have a 25% shot at this. I'd rather try for that than a guaranteed stalemate.
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Day Six
Mar 7, 2008 12:47:29 GMT -5
Post by Santo Rugger on Mar 7, 2008 12:47:29 GMT -5
Pleo, get your ass back in here and unvote!!!
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Day Six
Mar 7, 2008 12:51:27 GMT -5
Post by Pleonast on Mar 7, 2008 12:51:27 GMT -5
Unvote Pleonast
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Day Six
Mar 7, 2008 12:52:45 GMT -5
Post by Pleonast on Mar 7, 2008 12:52:45 GMT -5
How do you propose we distinguish the two scum? How do I know you're Town?
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Day Six
Mar 7, 2008 12:55:14 GMT -5
Post by Santo Rugger on Mar 7, 2008 12:55:14 GMT -5
Thank you. I think it's a tossup, and I don't know if there's any way of knowing which one's witch*. They're both too smart and experienced to have aligned themselves or distanced themselves too much from their partner. It's pretty much a coin flip at this point. You pick, I'll follow, and the other will have no choice than to follow the two of us... they can't kill the other at Night, so their only hope is to follow us. *See what I did there? Clever, huh?
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Day Six
Mar 7, 2008 12:58:04 GMT -5
Post by Santo Rugger on Mar 7, 2008 12:58:04 GMT -5
I guess you have no way of being sure, other than by taking me at my word (which scum would say too, I know, I know). My only argument for me being town is pure metagamy. That is, look how rude I've been to the people I've attacked in this game, compared to story's game, where I was town, and was pretty much a dick, too. Whereas in the games I've been scum, I've been much, much nicer to those I was attacking. That's all I've got, really. Like I said, mhaye and cookies are too good to be able to find anything that links them with their partners.
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Day Six
Mar 7, 2008 12:58:05 GMT -5
Post by ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies on Mar 7, 2008 12:58:05 GMT -5
I'm the clever one? I beg to differ. Vote Pleo, but not because I buy that he is town.
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Day Six
Mar 7, 2008 13:01:25 GMT -5
Post by Santo Rugger on Mar 7, 2008 13:01:25 GMT -5
I'm the clever one? I beg to differ. Vote Pleo, but not because I buy that he is town. If you or mhaye is the doc and hasn't claimed yet, you should turn in your Mafia cards right now.
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Day Six
Mar 7, 2008 13:05:54 GMT -5
Post by ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies on Mar 7, 2008 13:05:54 GMT -5
I honestly don't know what any of us are/were thinking. I think we're all here due to a comedy of errors. I do know that I have no counter claim to offer.
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Day Six
Mar 7, 2008 13:07:25 GMT -5
Post by Santo Rugger on Mar 7, 2008 13:07:25 GMT -5
So what faction are ya, cookies?
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Day Six
Mar 7, 2008 13:08:40 GMT -5
Post by ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies on Mar 7, 2008 13:08:40 GMT -5
The Peasant faction.
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Day Six
Mar 7, 2008 13:10:03 GMT -5
Post by piratepete v2 on Mar 7, 2008 13:10:03 GMT -5
Did they know about déjà vu in Ancient China?
Bah, go town! (somehow)
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Day Six
Mar 7, 2008 13:13:08 GMT -5
Post by Pleonast on Mar 7, 2008 13:13:08 GMT -5
Yep. I see my choices: vote for myself for the guaranteed stalemate or use a dartboard and hope for the best.
I'll likely vote for myself, but I'll give it a couple more hours before placing my vote.
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Day Six
Mar 7, 2008 13:14:45 GMT -5
Post by Santo Rugger on Mar 7, 2008 13:14:45 GMT -5
The Peasant faction. I know for a fact that you're not. You can't win, the best you can do is stalemate... might as well help us decide who to pick of you and mhaye...
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Day Six
Mar 7, 2008 13:16:36 GMT -5
Post by Santo Rugger on Mar 7, 2008 13:16:36 GMT -5
Yep. I see my choices: vote for myself for the guaranteed stalemate or use a dartboard and hope for the best. I'll likely vote for myself, but I'll give it a couple more hours before placing my vote. Pleo, it'll be a guaranteed stalemate if you die Today, but it'll still be a tie to the two scum factions, with town losing. The dartboard method gives a 25% chance of winning, and there's a 75% chance of a stalemate that we can claim a tie to. In other words, not all stalemates are created equal.
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Day Six
Mar 7, 2008 13:25:30 GMT -5
Post by Pleonast on Mar 7, 2008 13:25:30 GMT -5
Nope, it's 1 in 9. Your calculation presumes your own alignment. I don't have that benefit.
Since the game rules do not address this situation (bad, moderators, bad), I'll assume a stalemate is equivalent to a loss.
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Day Six
Mar 7, 2008 13:28:58 GMT -5
Post by Santo Rugger on Mar 7, 2008 13:28:58 GMT -5
Nope, it's 1 in 9. Your calculation presumes your own alignment. I don't have that benefit. Since the game rules do not address this situation (bad, moderators, bad), I'll assume a stalemate is equivalent to a loss. Fair enough. The game rules don't address it, but common sense does. Wouldn't you feel better about a tie if one of us were alive at the end? Regardless, putting myself in your shoes... erm, in your place, even if you were to kill me, how would that be fundamentally different than you dying Today?
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Day Six
Mar 7, 2008 13:30:21 GMT -5
Post by ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies on Mar 7, 2008 13:30:21 GMT -5
This game is seriously stressing me out. Unvote Pleo
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Day Six
Mar 7, 2008 13:37:39 GMT -5
Post by Santo Rugger on Mar 7, 2008 13:37:39 GMT -5
Actually, there's no way scum can win the game outright, regardless of what happens.
1.Town dies Today A - Town dies Tonight = scum stalemate. B - Town lives, refuses to vote Tomorrow = 3 way stalemate* 2.Scum dies Today A - Town dies Tonight = scum/town stalemate** B - Town lives, lynches scum = town win.
*Although town kinda loses in that scenario, since at least one of the scum would be able to take them out the next Night, theoretically. **Again, theoretically, scum would be able to take out town that Night unless it was Pleo that survived.
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Death By Irony
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Day Six
Mar 7, 2008 13:38:35 GMT -5
Post by Death By Irony on Mar 7, 2008 13:38:35 GMT -5
Ahem. I didn't address this situation because there were too many possible Endgame scenarios to discuss at the start of the game.
So here are your scenarios:
1) Lynch Town - Town loses, Wei and Shu factions draw. (NOTE: A draw is a draw. It is NOT a shared win.) 2) Lynch Shu - Game is either decided in the Night action or goes into three-handed toMorrow. 3) Lynch Wei - Shu faction wins.
(Wu faction has already lost in all of these scenarios, since both members died.)
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Day Six
Mar 7, 2008 13:43:16 GMT -5
Post by Santo Rugger on Mar 7, 2008 13:43:16 GMT -5
I didn't realize the scum were that much more powerful... What if we No-lynch?
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Day Six
Mar 7, 2008 13:46:33 GMT -5
Post by Santo Rugger on Mar 7, 2008 13:46:33 GMT -5
And what about my scenario 1-B?
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Day Six
Mar 7, 2008 13:46:50 GMT -5
Post by ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies on Mar 7, 2008 13:46:50 GMT -5
Thanks for the official clarification. Now to get mhaye in her suffering with the rest of us...
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Day Six
Mar 7, 2008 13:47:38 GMT -5
Post by ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies on Mar 7, 2008 13:47:38 GMT -5
her=here
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Day Six
Mar 7, 2008 13:48:07 GMT -5
Post by ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies on Mar 7, 2008 13:48:07 GMT -5
Nasty mental images with that typo, yes indeed.
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Day Six
Mar 7, 2008 13:49:05 GMT -5
Post by Santo Rugger on Mar 7, 2008 13:49:05 GMT -5
Nasty mental images with that typo, yes indeed.
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