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Post by Mad The Swine on Jun 17, 2007 13:59:10 GMT -5
Mad, one quick thought. There was only one kill on Night One - is it possible that instead of a miss by Dick the extra kill activated Ben Gun? If you did see Hal kill storyteller, is it possible he's Ben Gun? (There are two blocks in play and a chance of Dick missing, which also allows for all the permutations of kills we've seen whether there are two night killers or three in play. ) Ya know,I don't think so, I did consider it but decided against it for whatever reason, I don't take notes,guess I should start. I do think at some point all three would have competed a kill on the same night.Like I said I never heard anything from Mal when I blocked myself on Night1 .Unless I DID actually block NAF on Night3 instead of my intended witnessing, I have never blocked anyone, but IIRC ,there was only one kill that night right?I think the Doc would have said if had prevented a kill other than zuma(if we believe zumas FCOD doctor claim,which I see no reason not to.
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Post by cowgirl on Jun 17, 2007 14:14:32 GMT -5
What happened to cowgirl's insistent questions about people who voted against Idle Thought's during his meltdown? Because literally the only feedback I received on that subject was that by asking the question I was appearing scummy. I never understood why the officers were so certain that IT was scum and then got a pass when it tuned out that he wasn't, but whenever I brought it up I was accused of sounding scummy. It didn't seem productive to pursue. I note that now that you have brought it up, I have had only two responses to that line of questioning: one, as I mentioned, saying that it was scummy of me to ask; and two, now, came from someone I FOS'ed earlier on. If this made you suspicious, diggitcamera, why did you wait until now to say anything? At this point, as far as I'm concerned, there are three candidates for lynching (i.e the top three vote getters). Would you prefer I try to start a bandwagon against one of the lesser candidates? also I never voted for diggitcamera. Capybara:My inconsistency is based on the fact that MTS's claim is much less credulous to me than zuma's was, because I still can't understand why he made it, and why he did it when he did. Mad and Hal are approximately equivalent in my mind as lynch candidates (as either one would test Mad's claim); I chose Mad because I am inclined to not believe his claim and would prefer to save the crew if possible. But if the tides turned towards Hal I will switch my vote, because Lakai's death will not tell us as much as either Mad's or Hal's.
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Post by ArizonaTeach on Jun 17, 2007 14:21:07 GMT -5
Seriously. That's one hell if an out of nowhere claim. You must be really, really, really desperate to off Hal.
For that matter, cowgirl, what the heck? You've been pinging my radar ever since Day Three. It just looks to me right now you want to take down power roles.
Ok, I have no problem with killing Hal, since if it doesn't work we'll have a kill on Mad tomorrow, no problem.
Doctor, I don't recommend you protect Mad. That was a bit of a clusterfuck.
unvote Lakai vote Hal Briston.
For the record, depending on how this works out, I still suggest we take out Lakai and now cowgirl over the next few days.
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Post by capybara on Jun 17, 2007 14:28:43 GMT -5
I think if he IS
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Post by cowgirl on Jun 17, 2007 14:30:29 GMT -5
For that matter, cowgirl, what the heck? You've been pinging my radar ever since Day Three. I have defended every criticism that's been levelled at me. Please excuse me for not allaying suspicions that you have not outlined. I am inclined to not believe his role claim. If you believe it, that's cool, but please understand that to me it looks kind of hard to believe, and under the circumstances I would prefer to save a crew. Do you want me to switch my vote to Hal? I'm happy to do so but fear that might make me look suspicious too. At this point I am damned if I do and damned if I don't. Please advise; if switching to Hal will not increase your suspicions of me, I will do it. What if Hal is town? Shouldn't we then go after Mad? And then consider Lakai who was on the chopping block when Mad made his false* role claim? Why would I be as suspicious as both of them? *"false," of course, for the purposes of this paragraph
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Post by capybara on Jun 17, 2007 14:31:41 GMT -5
Crap! . . . if he IS Steele, I sort of understand the expediency in offing Hal: if Hal is indeed Dick that prevents one potential kill tonight, and if he's a pirate it gets us further into them, making a possible 2 dead pirates, which is a great start towards a winning game. If we get Dick that does mean only one non-Ben kill each night, which Steele and the doctor might be better able to handle and preserve themselves meanwhile.
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Post by diggitcamara on Jun 17, 2007 14:34:09 GMT -5
(snip) I note that now that you have brought it up, I have had only two responses to that line of questioning: one, as I mentioned, saying that it was scummy of me to ask; and two, now, came from someone I FOS'ed earlier on. If this made you suspicious, diggitcamera, why did you wait until now to say anything? (snip) also I never voted for diggitcamera. (snip) ... to be honest, I'm kind of bogged down in M3([other game] Hal, if you see this, please look in over there [/other game]). But that doesn't mean it's the first time I noticed. I even gave you reasons back then as to why it wouldn't be a good question to ask and you... simply overlooked them... And, on the second note. Who said you voted for me? (Who said anyone had voted for me? I think NAF did, once, but it was just a prod during the first day.
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Post by cowgirl on Jun 17, 2007 14:35:52 GMT -5
Crap! . . . if he IS Steele, I sort of understand the expediency in offing Hal: if Hal is indeed Dick that prevents one potential kill tonight, and if he's a pirate it gets us further into them, making a possible 2 dead pirates, which is a great start towards a winning game. If we get Dick that does mean only one non-Ben kill each night, which Steele and the doctor might be better able to handle and preserve themselves meanwhile. I didn't realize this when I wrote my four-point analysis earlier today. This is definitely a good reason to keep Mad alive another day. Unvote Mad The SwineVote Hal Briston
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Post by diggitcamara on Jun 17, 2007 14:37:19 GMT -5
Again: MadtheSwine--how do you detect who is Dick? (jokers refrain from answering).
Even if it's a good joke.
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Post by cowgirl on Jun 17, 2007 14:39:26 GMT -5
And, on the second note. Who said you voted for me? (Who said anyone had voted for me? I think NAF did, once, but it was just a prod during the first day. sorry, my mistake, I misread capybara's vote count and thought it had me voting for you rather than the other way around.
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Post by capybara on Jun 17, 2007 14:40:07 GMT -5
(snip) (snip) also I never voted for diggitcamera. (snip) snip And, on the second note. Who said you voted for me? (Who said anyone had voted for me? I think NAF did, once, but it was just a prod during the first day. I think she was reading too fast and misinterpreted the last vote count which had your vote for her. Resisting. . . Dick. . joke. . .
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Post by tirial on Jun 17, 2007 14:49:49 GMT -5
I was going to vote for Hal, but by my count its tied 4-all Hal/Lakai, and if there's a chance of extra time to discuss Mad's claim and its followup (especially cowgirl's posts) I think it would be useful.
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Post by capybara on Jun 17, 2007 14:54:49 GMT -5
I think that's an excellent idea-- Mal, if it's tied at sundown do we get overtime?
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Post by Malacandra on Jun 17, 2007 14:58:23 GMT -5
I think that's an excellent idea-- Mal, if it's tied at sundown do we get overtime?One hour. I got bugger all sleep last night and I don't want to stay up till 11 pm.
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Post by Mad The Swine on Jun 17, 2007 15:14:26 GMT -5
Again: MadtheSwine--how do you detect who is Dick? (jokers refrain from answering). I was not told that Hal was DICK just seems more likely to me that he is,rather than just a pirate.In fact at some point this weekend I thought he was for sure,but as you all know,sometimes "for sures" change. For all you wondering why the claim,(I think I already mentioned this) I based the claiming on Hal being Dick ,plus I think I was pegged already as Steele by the scum and would rather go on the offensive than defensive,with Dick dead we can do that a little easier,plus the doc needs to know who Steele is for the offense to be effective. Even if it's a good joke.
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Post by Hockey Monkey! on Jun 17, 2007 15:19:06 GMT -5
OK, I'm glad I read through and caught up before I did anything, even though I thought I had missed the deadline. We got another hour to discuss this. My first inclination when I read Mad's role claim was to unvote Lakai and vote for Hal. But I was still happy with my Lakai vote even as I read through the rest of the thread. I'm torn really.
Hal has had plenty of scum tells that he was called on and in my opinion wasn't very good at explaining. No, I never said anything about it because I thought there were better fish to fry.
I still think Lakai is scum. The question is which flavor? If Hal is Dick, then he has no idea of the affiliation of the other players and may be voting for Lakai because he thinks he is either crew or Flint. If Dick kills Flint he becomes King of the Pirates, so I don't know if that would be a reason to vote for him rather than try to kill him. If Hal is a pirate, then he knows that Lakai isn't a pirate too, so if we lynch Hal and he's a pirate, then I don't think Lakai would be one, as Hal has the last vote on him (while I'm composing this anyway).
If we lynch Hal and he is crew, then we should kill Mad in short order and Lakai after that.
Thinking this out as a write, I think I have convinced myself that Hal is the good lynch today.
unvote Lakai vote Hal Briston
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Post by Hal Briston on Jun 17, 2007 15:23:33 GMT -5
Terrific. Well done, Swine. You couldn't sucker any crew into your Day 3 gambit to lynch me, but this false role-claim seems to be working wonders. Good luck saving yourself when I come up crew.
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Post by capybara on Jun 17, 2007 15:26:04 GMT -5
Ok, verification-- has Hockey just broken the tie? Please undo that if we want an hour and a half to discuss this rather the half hour.
Anything more than that, Hal? Is that really all?
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Post by The Real FCOD on Jun 17, 2007 15:31:56 GMT -5
Well, I'm back from the wedding. I don't know when the day is supposed to end, but if I still have time to vote, I'll voteHal .
If he's town, we kill MtS and probably Lakai.
--FCOD
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Post by Mad The Swine on Jun 17, 2007 15:32:28 GMT -5
Again: MadtheSwine--how do you detect who is Dick? (jokers refrain from answering). I was not told that Hal was DICK just seems more likely to me that he is,rather than just a pirate.In fact at some point this weekend I thought he was for sure,but as you all know,sometimes "for sures" change. For all you wondering why the claim,(I think I already mentioned this) I based the claiming on Hal being Dick ,plus I think I was pegged already as Steele by the scum and would rather go on the offensive than defensive,with Dick dead we can do that a little easier,plus the doc needs to know who Steele is for the offense to be effective. Even if it's a good joke. whoops...forgot about this at the bottom...can you fix it MAL?
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Post by Hockey Monkey! on Jun 17, 2007 15:36:19 GMT -5
Ok, verification-- has Hockey just broken the tie? Please undo that if we want an hour and a half to discuss this rather the half hour. Anything more than that, Hal? Is that really all? Capy, the overtime started half an hour ago. The day ended at 9 Mal's time, 4 eastern. It was in a tie at that time, and he gave us another hour. So we really have about 25 minutes to decide this.
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Post by Hal Briston on Jun 17, 2007 15:40:25 GMT -5
How can I offer up more? I'm vanilla crew, and MtS is scum. He tried to have me lynched in blatantly scummy fashion on Day 3, and hasn't let up since. A readthrough of day 3 shows this pretty clearly.
Hell with it, though. Of course I'd personally prefer MtS' scummyness comes out with his (or Lakai's) lynching today, but if it has to come out at my expense, well, I'll be ticked that MtS managed to get you to lynch another crew member, but at least he'll be the next to swing.
Ah well...time to pack up the car and get the family back home. Hopefully I'll still be alive when I get there.
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Post by Malacandra on Jun 17, 2007 16:00:48 GMT -5
Time!
At the end of another long day aboard the Hispaniola the ship's company resolve to dispose of Hal Briston, and someone with a black sense of humour has a plank rigged, down which the unfortunate victim is encouraged at cutlass point. There is a splash followed by some thrashing and screaming in which the condemned party informs the world in general of his inability to swim. Soon he goes down for the third time leaving only bubbles behind.
Hal Briston (Dick Deadeye) has walked the plank. Day Five is over. Night people, you know what to do.
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