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Day Six
Jun 19, 2007 0:55:27 GMT -5
Post by Malacandra on Jun 19, 2007 0:55:27 GMT -5
A change in the weather sees the Hispaniola reaching along before a mild breeze under all plain sail while the dolphins play merrily about her cutwater. Unfortunately, ArizonaTeach is not there to witness the happy scene. A brief search of the ship finds him below decks, head down in a barrel, which has put paid not only to him but to half the rum ration, casting a gloom over the proceedings.
ArizonaTeach (Captain Smollett) has been murdered. It is Day Six.
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Day Six
Jun 19, 2007 1:09:32 GMT -5
Post by Lakai on Jun 19, 2007 1:09:32 GMT -5
I don't know if MTS mentioned this yesterDay, but I'd like to know how he knew Hal was Deadeye Dick.
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Day Six
Jun 19, 2007 1:14:34 GMT -5
Post by ArizonaTeach on Jun 19, 2007 1:14:34 GMT -5
Ahhh, it was just a matter of time. You all know what to do! And where's my password?
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Day Six
Jun 19, 2007 6:31:02 GMT -5
Post by Malacandra on Jun 19, 2007 6:31:02 GMT -5
With 13 players left, toDay will end 9pm my time on Friday 22nd. 7 votes to start a 12-hour countdown if I'm there to see it (not as unavailable as yesterDay).
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Day Six
Jun 19, 2007 8:12:45 GMT -5
Post by Mad The Swine on Jun 19, 2007 8:12:45 GMT -5
I don't know if MTS mentioned this yesterDay, but I'd like to know how he knew Hal was Deadeye Dick. Knowing Hal was some sorta scum,it just seemed to make sense that he was Dick and not a pirate.I think it becomes clear in the killing patterns ,if you assume Gunn isn't activated.
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Day Six
Jun 19, 2007 8:39:08 GMT -5
Post by Blaster Master on Jun 19, 2007 8:39:08 GMT -5
Sorry to see you go, AZT, you've played well.
MTS:
At this point, with the result of last night's lynch, I'm highly inclined to believe your role claim. That said, I'm interested in some of the information you bestowed upon us yesterday.
Concerning your uncertainty around your block on NAF, I think it's well founded. I imagine when choosing their representative, the pirates will choose the most suspicious one already to do the killing, such that if he is witnessed by Steele, they do not risk exposing someone who has maintained good cover. That said, while probabilistically speaking, chances are that at least one of your witnesses was likely to have turned into a block, even that could mean any number of things. Thus, I'm unsure how much weight that adds to the building suspicion of NAF, but since he was already a leading suspect, it doesn't help his case.
I also noticed that you said you had witnessed me on Night 4. Did you do so because you thought I was a pirate, or because you thought I would be a pirate's target? If it's the former, I'd like to know what I did to arouse your suspicion so that I may address that directly. Similarly, if it's the latter.
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Day Six
Jun 19, 2007 9:05:25 GMT -5
Post by Hockey Monkey! on Jun 19, 2007 9:05:25 GMT -5
Here is an updated version of voting events through Day Five. I am now listing MadTheSwine as a confirmed player. For simplicity’s sake, I deleted one color. Now all good guys are Green, Pirates are Orange so they stand out.
Good Guys – Lime Green SCUM - Purple Pirates - Orange
Day One Votes ArizonaTeach = 0 zuma Auntbeast = 0 MadTheSwine, hockeymonkey Autolycus = 0 Pleonast, MadTheSwine, Cookies, Gadarene, FCOD, Kyrie Eleison, Gadarene, CaerieD Blaster Master = 1 NAF1138, panamajack, capybara CaerieD = 0 NAF1138 capybara = 5 FCOD, Blaster Master, fluiddruid, FCOD, MHaye, MadTheSwine Cookies = 1 Pleonast, Gadarene cowgirl = 0 Kyrie Eleison, fluiddruid DiggitCamara = 0 NAF1138 FCOD = 0 NAF1138 hockeymonkey = 1 Lakai Idle Thoughts = 1 capybara, hockeymonkey, cowgirl, capybara,capybara KatiRoo = 9 Pleonast, storyteller0910, panamajack, ArizonaTeach, Cookies, zuma, Gadarene, CaerieD, hockey monkey, NAF1138 Kyrie Eleison = 1 Idle Thoughts, Lakai Lakai = 1 panamajack, Kyrie Eleison MadTheSwine = 1 KatiRoo,auntbeast NAF1138 = 0 Kyrie Eleison, ArizonaTeach Pleonast = 0 panamajack storyteller0910 = 2 diggitcamara, auntbeast zuma = 0 Pleonast
Day Two Votes MHaye =7 Blaster Master, Gadarene, zuma, hockey monkey, Pleonast, ArizonaTeach, Gadarene, ArizonaTeach, hockey monkey, Kyrie Eleison hockeymonkey =5 Lakai, NAF1138, FCOD, Hal Briston, Autolycus, diggitcamara, Idle Thoughts, ArizonaTeach FCOD =3 hockeymonkey, storyteller0910, Kyrie Eleison, MHaye, cowgirl, diggitcamara, Autolycus, MHaye, Gadarene, capybara NAF1138 =2 Auntbeast, tirial auntbeast =1 MadTheSwine, Pleonast, MadTheSwine Lakai =1 panamajack, hockeymonkey MadTheSwine =1 capybara, capybara Cookies {now Tirial} =1 Pleonast, NAF1138 ArizonaTeach =0 zuma Kyrie Eleison =0 Idle Thoughts, ArizonaTeach panamajack =0 hockeymonkey zuma =0 storyteller0910, MadTheSwine
Day Three Votes auntbeast =5 Pleonast, hockeymonkey, MadTheSwine, panamajack, NAF1138, ArizonaTeach, Blaster Master hockeymonkey =4 Autolycus, FCOD, panamajack, diggitcamara, auntbeast Hal Briston =2 ArizonaTeach, Lakai, MadTheSwine, zuma, NAF1138 Lakai =2 Hal Briston, Gadarene Autolycus =1 capybara Idle Thoughts =1 zuma NAF1138 =1 Idle Thoughts zuma =1 MadTheSwine, auntbeast, Lakai, Hal Briston, Idle Thoughts, ArizonaTeach cowgirl =0 Gadarene panamajack =0 hockeymonkey, Blaster Master tirial =0 zuma, NAF1138
Day Four Votes Idle Thoughts = 1 NAF1138, capybara, Pleonast, FCOD, MadTheSwine, ArizonaTeach, Hal Briston, Hockey Monkey, capybara, panamajack, zuma, Blaster Master, tirial NAF1138 =0 Idle Thoughts zuma =17 Idle Thoughts, Autolycus, MadTheSwine, ArizonaTeach, Gadarene, FCOD, capybara, Pleonast, Hockey Monkey, panamajack, tirial, zuma*, Blaster Master, cowgirl, NAF1138, diggitcamara, Lakai Autolycus =0 Pleonast
*zuma didn't unvote Idle Thoughts so his vote for himself didn't count.
Day Five Votes MadTheSwine = 2 Pleonast, Lakai, cowgirl Lakai = 3 ArizonaTeach, Hockey Monkey, Gadarene, panamajack, capybara, Hal Briston panamajack =1 Blaster Master Hal Briston =6 MadTheSwine, capybara, ArizonaTeach, cowgirl, Hockey Monkey, FCOD cowgirl =1 diggitcamara No Vote = NAF1138, tirial
I’ll be back in a few minutes with my observations.
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Day Six
Jun 19, 2007 9:08:09 GMT -5
Post by Mad The Swine on Jun 19, 2007 9:08:09 GMT -5
Sorry to see you go, AZT, you've played well. MTS: At this point, with the result of last night's lynch, I'm highly inclined to believe your role claim. That said, I'm interested in some of the information you bestowed upon us yesterday. Concerning your uncertainty around your block on NAF, I think it's well founded. I imagine when choosing their representative, the pirates will choose the most suspicious one already to do the killing, such that if he is witnessed by Steele, they do not risk exposing someone who has maintained good cover. That said, while probabilistically speaking, chances are that at least one of your witnesses was likely to have turned into a block, even that could mean any number of things. Thus, I'm unsure how much weight that adds to the building suspicion of NAF, but since he was already a leading suspect, it doesn't help his case. Ok,well I'm glad somebody agrees that there could be something there.I would like to hear more opinions on it...Whats up with the Sherlock dog anybody know that story? I also noticed that you said you had witnessed me on Night 4. Did you do so because you thought I was a pirate, or because you thought I would be a pirate's target? If it's the former, I'd like to know what I did to arouse your suspicion so that I may address that directly. Similarly, if it's the latter. I did it because I thought you were a pirate.Mebbe 70-30 scum/town. You seemed to be the only one, on numerous occasions, to openly discuss pro-town roles. Once you assumed I was Steele I figured ya had done your homework on me and woulda certainly picked up on the Hal breadcrumbs,yet you never mentioned Hal in a bad way on Day5.That was my reasoning. If my reason was wrong there was still a chance you woulda been attacked at night,so I thought ya was a good choice. You weren't,since ya slept all night and wasted my time.Try ta get yourself killed or sumpin next time.
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Day Six
Jun 19, 2007 9:17:45 GMT -5
Post by capybara on Jun 19, 2007 9:17:45 GMT -5
Ok, Sherlock Holmes. Silver Blaze. Greatly paraphrased: A race horse disappears. On investigating the scene at the stable the Yard decective asks if SH notices anything else. SH answers something about "the curious incident of the dog in the night time." Yard agent asks "Huh? What did the dog do?" Holmes says, "Well, nothing. Isn't that interesting?" Morale of the story/ resolution: the watch dog did nothing in the night time when the stranger came to steal the horse because no STRANGER came to take the horse, rather it was the trainer, whom the dog was familiar with. And some stuff. Analyze away. So the curious incident was that there was nothing "strange" that happened.. .
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Day Six
Jun 19, 2007 9:27:42 GMT -5
Post by capybara on Jun 19, 2007 9:27:42 GMT -5
Ok, so Mad, there's no info from last night to share, then? Not pushin', and I suppose if there was something useful and it's time was ripe you'd have already offered it. Hey, our rum! Bastards. Cowgirl/St Thomas-- you accept AZ and FCOD's claims now, I figure? I'm realizing that my Day 1 and 2 scumdar is totally broken, or good power roles behave like I imagined pirates would, because (almost) everyone I was very suspicious of in the first few Days are now confirmed. And the scum power roles we've pegged so far (got 'em all actually, no? Just pirates out there now) were indeed trying to lay low/ semi-lurk.
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Day Six
Jun 19, 2007 9:34:44 GMT -5
Post by Malacandra on Jun 19, 2007 9:34:44 GMT -5
Mad, I'm sure I asked you before to stop over-analyzing the "dog in the night-time" comment. When you Witness someone and see nothing happen it is possible that:
- they did nothing, and no-one did anything to them; or - you inadvertently Blocked and either prevented them doing something or something being done to them. Of course, even if you Block it is still possible that they were doing nothing.
That's all. End of story. Nothing that I say purports to give you any more information.
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Day Six
Jun 19, 2007 9:45:51 GMT -5
Post by Mad The Swine on Jun 19, 2007 9:45:51 GMT -5
Mad, I'm sure I asked you before to stop over-analyzing the "dog in the night-time" comment. When you Witness someone and see nothing happen it is possible that: - they did nothing, and no-one did anything to them; or - you inadvertently Blocked and either prevented them doing something or something being done to them. Of course, even if you Block it is still possible that they were doing nothing. That's all. End of story. Nothing that I say purports to give you any more information. I understand. What I am not sure of(still) is what happens when I block.If I feel it might be a clue to a block(since there was only one kill that night) I don't think it hurts to discuss it.
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Day Six
Jun 19, 2007 10:01:39 GMT -5
Post by Blaster Master on Jun 19, 2007 10:01:39 GMT -5
I did it because I thought you were a pirate.Mebbe 70-30 scum/town. You seemed to be the only one, on numerous occasions, to openly discuss pro-town roles. Once you assumed I was Steele I figured ya had done your homework on me and woulda certainly picked up on the Hal breadcrumbs,yet you never mentioned Hal in a bad way on Day5.That was my reasoning. If my reason was wrong there was still a chance you woulda been attacked at night,so I thought ya was a good choice. You weren't,since ya slept all night and wasted my time.Try ta get yourself killed or sumpin next time. In fairness, you've got compelling points there. However, prior to your claim, I was actually losing confidence that you were a likely Steele candidate and I had, in fact, not "done my homework" on you... I'll explain why. I think I've made my reasoning clear (whether it is well accepted or not) on why I've decided that open discussion of potential power roles is acceptable. I also figured it was a reasonable risk to pit 50-50 between you and Autolycus for Hal to attack and that if you were targetted we'd at worst get the "signs of struggle" clue or a no-kill, and at best get a pirate (which we did). I had said earlier that if you were Steele, that if you had information that would net a pirate, you should claim, bring it forth, and then if you, at worst, protect yourself the rest of the game, it would eventually net us the "signs", getting us 2-to-1 on your life. When I didn't see that, I thought you either really didn't have any useful information or you thought I was a pirate trying to out you. However, considering that IF I actually was a pirate (which, BTW, I'm not ), and that I had already made it clear that I thought you the most likely Steele candidate, then you shouldn't be of any concern about accidently outting yourself, because the pirates would have already known anyway. Thus, since I didn't see your claim (it happened after I was last able to check in Yesterday), I was under the impression that you had no additional information, and thus didn't bother to "do my homework".
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Day Six
Jun 19, 2007 10:03:46 GMT -5
Post by Malacandra on Jun 19, 2007 10:03:46 GMT -5
When Steele Blocks (intentionally or otherwise) his mere presence nearby alerts anyone who might have been planning a murder that it is not safe to go ahead with their plan. Note that no-one can distinguish a Block by Steele from an attack on Ben Gunn (who is also hair-trigger enough that no-one can get near to him, until he flips out or becomes sane).
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Day Six
Jun 19, 2007 10:04:04 GMT -5
Post by Hockey Monkey! on Jun 19, 2007 10:04:04 GMT -5
1. Working on the assumption that pirates would not want to kill Dick, and that they had good reason to believe he was Dick, I think we may have had a full on crew lynch of Hal Briston. I did have a WTF? moment when cowgirl voted for MTS, but maybe she was confused. Still not sure on that one.
2. Going back to voting records (which I am sure y'all are so tired of by now ;D), if we look at the lynches and take out the known crew and confirmed (I am known to myself as crew) then that leaves us with the unknown members. I don't think Katiroo's, MHaye's, or Auntbeast's lynchings were entirely crew driven. We know everyone voted for zuma, and I just stated that I think Hal's was probably a crew lynch.
That leaves us with a small pool of candidates for pirates that participated in, or drove a lynch. Mind you, I'm not looking at reasons behind a vote, just that it is there. I'm also not accusing anyone here, just pointing out that in this group I think there are 2-3 bad guys. I think the only person in this group that I have voiced an opinion on is panamajack. The others have had little pings on my scumdar, but nothing that took precedence over whatever else was going in that Day.
panamajack (2) Katiroo, Auntbeast tirial (1) Katiroo Gadarene (2) Katiroo, MHaye NAF1138 (2) Katiroo, Auntbeast Blaster Master (2) MHaye, Auntbeast
Previously, I have been working on the zero bandwagon group. Now I am shifting focus. (Can y'all tell I like statistics?)
3. My guess is that the Pirates will start to kill off the Officers now so as to keep the pool of confirmed to a minimum. The more unconfirmed they kill, the more we can narrow down who the Pirates are. I think this means for us (crew) that we are going to have to be careful pretty much from here on out that we lynch scum. It's a very good thing that Dick is gone and we only have to worry about losing one crewman to the night. I don't know if it will be a good thing or not to have Gunn activated at this point. It would give us one no kill night, but then the possiblity of another free-agent killer on the loose is not appealing to me.
4. Now who do we have left in the game?
Blaster Master capybara tirial/Hal cowgirl diggitcamara Gadarene Lakai NAF1138 panamajack
Hockey Monkey - crew FCOD - Officer Pleonast - Officer MadTheSwine - Capt. Steele
So we are still looking for Flint, Gunn, and one or two vanilla Pirates, with the remainder being vanilla crew.
5. Just because I haven't brought up Lakai yet doesn't mean I've changed my mind about him.
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Day Six
Jun 19, 2007 10:05:54 GMT -5
Post by Blaster Master on Jun 19, 2007 10:05:54 GMT -5
Mad, I'm sure I asked you before to stop over-analyzing the "dog in the night-time" comment. When you Witness someone and see nothing happen it is possible that: - they did nothing, and no-one did anything to them; or - you inadvertently Blocked and either prevented them doing something or something being done to them. Of course, even if you Block it is still possible that they were doing nothing. That's all. End of story. Nothing that I say purports to give you any more information. I understand. What I am not sure of(still) is what happens when I block.If I feel it might be a clue to a block(since there was only one kill that night) I don't think it hurts to discuss it. Well, what might add to the discussion is when Hal replaces tirial. Being that he knows who he targetted on what nights, if he is responsible for the one kill... you very well may have blocked a pirate kill on the same night.
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Day Six
Jun 19, 2007 10:15:12 GMT -5
Post by Blaster Master on Jun 19, 2007 10:15:12 GMT -5
4. Now who do we have left in the game? Blaster Master capybara tirial/Hal cowgirl diggitcamara Gadarene Lakai NAF1138 panamajack Hockey Monkey - crew FCOD - Officer Pleonast - Officer MadTheSwine - Capt. Steele Being that we all are saying that we're crew (regardless of whether we are or not), it makes generating these lists with yourself listed as crew a little biased and not particularly useful to the rest of the crew who isn't as sure as you are. Because it's ALSO interesting that you were on several bandwagons ( KatiRoo, MHaye, and AuntBeast), and you seem to be "conveniently" leaving yourself out when the evidence you're using to build a potential pirate list is equally as damning for you.
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Day Six
Jun 19, 2007 10:15:16 GMT -5
Post by Mad The Swine on Jun 19, 2007 10:15:16 GMT -5
Ok, so Mad, there's no info from last night to share, then? Not pushin', and I suppose if there was something useful and it's time was ripe you'd have already offered it. No ...I'll gettem tonight though!
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Day Six
Jun 19, 2007 10:22:47 GMT -5
Post by Mad The Swine on Jun 19, 2007 10:22:47 GMT -5
Well, what might add to the discussion is when Hal replaces tirial. Being that he knows who he targetted on what nights, if he is responsible for the one kill... you very well may have blocked a pirate kill on the same night. I don't think Hal should share any information he has from his previous scum-ridden life...It wouldn't be fair.
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Day Six
Jun 19, 2007 10:26:18 GMT -5
Post by Malacandra on Jun 19, 2007 10:26:18 GMT -5
Well, what might add to the discussion is when Hal replaces tirial. Being that he knows who he targetted on what nights, if he is responsible for the one kill... you very well may have blocked a pirate kill on the same night. I don't think Hal should share any information he has from his previous scum-ridden life...It wouldn't be fair. I think you should rest secure in the knowledge that I'm on the case.
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Day Six
Jun 19, 2007 10:27:19 GMT -5
Post by capybara on Jun 19, 2007 10:27:19 GMT -5
4. Now who do we have left in the game? Blaster Master capybara tirial/Hal cowgirl diggitcamara Gadarene Lakai NAF1138 panamajack Hockey Monkey - crew FCOD - Officer Pleonast - Officer MadTheSwine - Capt. Steele Being that we all are saying that we're crew (regardless of whether we are or not), it makes generating these lists with yourself listed as crew a little biased and not particularly useful to the rest of the crew who isn't as sure as you are. Because it's ALSO interesting that you were on several bandwagons ( KatiRoo, MHaye, and AuntBeast), and you seem to be "conveniently" leaving yourself out when the evidence you're using to build a potential pirate list is equally as damning for you. Uh, yeah. Hockey, you were doing some strange things with numbers yesterday, too. And now you've changed tack but are still "spinning" a tad-- this isn't necessarily scummy, but it's scum-like. (for an external vision of what this might look like, have a look at Cowgirl's emotion-driven logic near end of Day yesterDay) Why don't you come up with a theory and THEN look for evidence, rather than analyzing the numbers and trying to attach meaning to patterns? Those patterns might just be incidental, or not, but over-enthusiasm about finding meaning might cause some very strange theories-- cart before the horse. Work in the other direction for a while. On the implied crewiness of yourself and leaving yourself out of analyses. . . what he said.
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Day Six
Jun 19, 2007 10:28:51 GMT -5
Post by NAF1138 on Jun 19, 2007 10:28:51 GMT -5
Well, I'm back, and apperantly the most suspicious person on the ship...not sure why that is, can anyone clue me in?
Yesterday was interesting to read. I didn't get to check in at all while I was away (sorry about that) but I am back now and ready to rock.
Also, WOOHOO DIE HAL SCUM DON'T DARKEN OUR SAILS AGAIN!
And WELCOME HAL/SIR! Good to have you aboard!
;D
Sorry to see you go tirial. Hope everything is ok.
Now, MtS tell us what you witnessed last night.
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Day Six
Jun 19, 2007 10:30:20 GMT -5
Post by Hockey Monkey! on Jun 19, 2007 10:30:20 GMT -5
4. Now who do we have left in the game? Blaster Master capybara tirial/Hal cowgirl diggitcamara Gadarene Lakai NAF1138 panamajack Hockey Monkey - crew FCOD - Officer Pleonast - Officer MadTheSwine - Capt. Steele Being that we all are saying that we're crew (regardless of whether we are or not), it makes generating these lists with yourself listed as crew a little biased and not particularly useful to the rest of the crew who isn't as sure as you are. Because it's ALSO interesting that you were on several bandwagons ( KatiRoo, MHaye, and AuntBeast), and you seem to be "conveniently" leaving yourself out when the evidence you're using to build a potential pirate list is equally as damning for you. Blaster Master - this is the first time I have done so. You can see in the voting records that I have posted that I do not list myself as confirmed. I have the knowledge that I am crew. I've also been on every single lynch in the game. Something which I believe a Pirate would try very hard NOT to do. I am aware of my part in the information and yet I still choose to share it. Again, if I were a Pirate, I would not do. I can in fact argue that I am crew because Autolycus had an active vote on me at the end of Days Two and Three when I was about to be lynched BOTH times. A Pirate tried to kill me twice. I find it useful to try to narrow down lists with specific criteria, and I post my data so other crew members can benefit from it if they choose.
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Day Six
Jun 19, 2007 10:44:34 GMT -5
Post by Mad The Swine on Jun 19, 2007 10:44:34 GMT -5
Now, MtS tell us what you witnessed last night. Nothing to share at this time.I'm not sure if I wanna say what I did yet.Don't want the pirates knowing info they don't hafta have...unless ya'll think it might be more beneficial to us to have it out in the open.
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Day Six
Jun 19, 2007 10:50:53 GMT -5
Post by NAF1138 on Jun 19, 2007 10:50:53 GMT -5
Now, MtS tell us what you witnessed last night. Nothing to share at this time.I'm not sure if I wanna say what I did yet.Don't want the pirates knowing info they don't hafta have...unless ya'll think it might be more beneficial to us to have it out in the open. I would say that keeping quiet is a good idea. Can you tell me why you think I am scummy. The only person who ever listed his reasoning was Idle, and if you actually look at his reasoning...it was fairly shaky. Sorry I am being so self centered, I will move onto other people eventually. But several people mentioned that they would have liked to have talked to me yesterDay, but I was gone for too much of it. And well...I am rather self centered. While I wait I am going to do a reread with the knowledge that Hal was Deadeye.
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Day Six
Jun 19, 2007 11:02:28 GMT -5
Post by Parzival on Jun 19, 2007 11:02:28 GMT -5
So long to ArizonaTeach. For once, at least, who killed him and their motive is pretty clear. 1. Working on the assumption that pirates would not want to kill Dick, and that they had good reason to believe he was Dick, I think we may have had a full on crew lynch of Hal Briston. I did have a WTF? moment when cowgirl voted for MTS, but maybe she was confused. Still not sure on that one. I'm not so sure on the crew lynch. If, for instance, Lakai really is a Pirate, a Pirate might have decided to avoid him for a vote for someone who most likely was Dick; both are a loss but the Deadeye Dick vote looks a little better since it's approved by Steele. Lynching Lakai today solely to test this theory, though, would be crazy (not that there might not be other reasons to lynch him). As for cowgirl's vote, I think she may have been confused - hoping to get more pirates, but only if she was right. But I'm not sure I read her logic right either. I checked without about 5 minutes to go but I had no time to verify Mad's claim. Until Deadeye Dick swung, I wasn't really believing it. I'm with Blaster Master on excluding yourself as crew in your list. It makes your analysis somewhat useless to us unless you're willing to walk the plank today. (Not really offering, I'd like to get someone I think is more likely to be a Pirate). Including an argument in your favor is nice, but I think you should keep it separate. We're not supposed to read into the color commentary, but yesterday was one case where we were supposed to get something, weren't we? I don't know if the 'unused knives' in the rule description was intended to tell us whether Dick had become a Pirate yet, or if that actually was just more flavor text, and we don't know his status for sure.
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Day Six
Jun 19, 2007 11:13:06 GMT -5
Post by Mad The Swine on Jun 19, 2007 11:13:06 GMT -5
Nothing to share at this time.I'm not sure if I wanna say what I did yet.Don't want the pirates knowing info they don't hafta have...unless ya'll think it might be more beneficial to us to have it out in the open. I would say that keeping quiet is a good idea. Can you tell me why you think I am scummy. The only person who ever listed his reasoning was Idle, and if you actually look at his reasoning...it was fairly shaky. The reason I witnessed you in the first place was early in the game you were really agreeable with alot of players,seemed scummy.Then the whole zuma, Hal and you thing at the end of Day3 was bothersome.Since I knew at that time Hal was scum, you and zuma both looked very dirty,though zuma may have known one of your identities,I see now you could not have known either one of them,so that was just unfortunate on your part to throw in with those two scum. The reply I got from Mal about that damn dog from witnessing you just confused the hell outta me,so i'm not sure I got a strong case against you. Seems like there was something else, but I doubt remember it anymore....I really gotta start taking notes.I will let you know if I think of it.
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Day Six
Jun 19, 2007 11:17:51 GMT -5
Post by Pleonast on Jun 19, 2007 11:17:51 GMT -5
Just wanted to chime in that I'm following along, but not willing to go after anyone yet to avoid a bandwagon effect.
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Day Six
Jun 19, 2007 11:28:12 GMT -5
Post by capybara on Jun 19, 2007 11:28:12 GMT -5
Just wanted to chime in that I'm following along, but not willing to go after anyone yet to avoid a bandwagon effect. Well. . . do you have any non-bandwagony thoughts? General observations?
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Day Six
Jun 19, 2007 11:36:46 GMT -5
Post by The Real FCOD on Jun 19, 2007 11:36:46 GMT -5
Blaster Master - this is the first time I have done so. You can see in the voting records that I have posted that I do not list myself as confirmed. I have the knowledge that I am crew. I've also been on every single lynch in the game. Something which I believe a Pirate would try very hard NOT to do. I am aware of my part in the information and yet I still choose to share it. Again, if I were a Pirate, I would not do. I can in fact argue that I am crew because Autolycus had an active vote on me at the end of Days Two and Three when I was about to be lynched BOTH times. A Pirate tried to kill me twice. I find it useful to try to narrow down lists with specific criteria, and I post my data so other crew members can benefit from it if they choose. I find you suspicious. That was pretty sneaky, what you did with that last list. Also, pirates most certainly would vote for their own here and there; I know because I did in M2. Your argument that you are crew because Auto voted for you is weak and scummy, IMO. I voted for you twice, in Days 2 and 3. I didn't forget about you, I only put voting for you aside because there were better lynch candidates on Days 4 and 5. Right now, I'm not seeing anything to go on for today's lynchee, so until some other information surfaces, I'm going to Vote hockeymonkey. --FCOD
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