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Jun 3, 2008 15:38:22 GMT -5
Post by Hawkmod on Jun 3, 2008 15:38:22 GMT -5
Much better.
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Jun 3, 2008 18:14:47 GMT -5
Post by NAF1138 on Jun 3, 2008 18:14:47 GMT -5
I'm frustrated. I'm frustrated becasue the only people I am genuinly suspicious of are ALL THE PEOPLE THAT ARE ACTUALLY TALKING!
I don't get it, but yesterDay was the same way for the most part. I talk a big game about looking back at people's actions and mining for information, but right now there isn't any freakin information because so many people aren't talking.
That isn't fair, their is some good analysis going on in regards to the buffabby wagon vs hockeyguy lynch. And I am trying to keep up, but frankley that is just not the kind of shit I have ever been good at. Not at this level of information, not when the Night resulted in a nearly 0 net information gain. With this level of information I need people to actually talk. Is that selfish? Maybe. But it's helpfull to the town too. If toDay keeps going like this, the Day is going to see all it's activity in the last 24 hours and we are going to take a shot in the dark at someone just like we did yesterDay. And yesterDay we got lucky.
Let's take a look shall we?
People who have posted fewer than 3 times toDay.
Kat Darth Sensitive Ryjae Kidvermicious MHaye Smurf Czech Misterblockey Rebel tragic BlaM
The people in bold and italics haven't posted at all.
I am frustrated.
Sorry for the rant, but I don't know what to do. The people who aren't talking are hurting the town, because, right now, as a town, what we NEED is infromation; and right now 11 out of the 23 living players are not participating enough to give us that information.
11 out of 23 players! Some of you have legit excuses I am sure. That isn't my point. My point is we are only playing with half a deck right now.
This is going to go on forever if I don't stop myself.
Sorry.
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Jun 3, 2008 18:17:10 GMT -5
Post by Mister Blockey on Jun 3, 2008 18:17:10 GMT -5
I don't have the time to do these massively in-depth examinations that many other people are doing, but as I read and re-read the days posts, I came across this: Then you'd have to be thinking that as a scum player, I've completely changed my views on how to play the role since Batman, because all I did there when under pressure was deflect and hide until I got caught. I was extremely passive, intimidated even. So yes, it's entirely possible that I've become an aggressive scum player in that time. Or I could just be a townie, boldened by the freedom granted by shared win conditions . I really don't like this. I really really don't like this reasoning. It's really the kind of thing that just shouldn't be mentioned at all. The argument boils down to basically "This isn't how I acted the last time I played scum." Thats a giant glass of WIFOM. It's not even a revealing one. All it serves to do is muddy the waters, which is slightly more of a scum move than town. I'm not thinking this is enough for a vote at this time but that and my gut are more than enough form me to point a big FOS at tdpatriots12.
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Jun 3, 2008 18:19:47 GMT -5
Post by Mister Blockey on Jun 3, 2008 18:19:47 GMT -5
Sorry NAF, I haven't had a terribly large amount of time today, between closing yesterday, opening today, cleaning the house, and working on other things, I've just barely gotten caught up enough to make that post I just made.
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Jun 3, 2008 18:35:24 GMT -5
Post by NAF1138 on Jun 3, 2008 18:35:24 GMT -5
Sorry NAF, I haven't had a terribly large amount of time today, between closing yesterday, opening today, cleaning the house, and working on other things, I've just barely gotten caught up enough to make that post I just made. Totally fair. I do understand that there is life outside of mafia. It's just frustrating when life happens to nearly half the players in the game at the same time.
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Jun 3, 2008 18:52:04 GMT -5
Post by Hockey Monkey! on Jun 3, 2008 18:52:04 GMT -5
I'm frustrated. I'm frustrated becasue the only people I am genuinly suspicious of are ALL THE PEOPLE THAT ARE ACTUALLY TALKING! I don't get it, but yesterDay was the same way for the most part. I talk a big game about looking back at people's actions and mining for information, but right now there isn't any freakin information because so many people aren't talking. That isn't fair, their is some good analysis going on in regards to the buffabby wagon vs hockeyguy lynch. And I am trying to keep up, but frankley that is just not the kind of shit I have ever been good at. Not at this level of information, not when the Night resulted in a nearly 0 net information gain. With this level of information I need people to actually talk. Is that selfish? Maybe. But it's helpfull to the town too. If toDay keeps going like this, the Day is going to see all it's activity in the last 24 hours and we are going to take a shot in the dark at someone just like we did yesterDay. And yesterDay we got lucky. Let's take a look shall we? People who have posted fewer than 3 times toDay. Kat Darth Sensitive Ryjae Kidvermicious MHaye Smurf Czech Misterblockey Rebel tragic BlaMThe people in bold and italics haven't posted at all. I am frustrated. Sorry for the rant, but I don't know what to do. The people who aren't talking are hurting the town, because, right now, as a town, what we NEED is infromation; and right now 11 out of the 23 living players are not participating enough to give us that information. 11 out of 23 players! Some of you have legit excuses I am sure. That isn't my point. My point is we are only playing with half a deck right now. This is going to go on forever if I don't stop myself. Sorry. Holy fuck! I know I'm not the most prolific of posters, but this is goddamn unacceptable. I hope we aren't losing interest in Mafia itself. That would suck. What would I do at work? Bufftabby, to address your concern with my vote and reasoning yesterday, that is just how I play the game. I don't sit down and pour over posts and analyze votes (I used to when I first started). Now, I read and form general impressions of people - gut feelings if you will. I look for inconsistencies and wierd wording. In the Batman game, I was an investigator/vig, and picked scum 3 for 3 nights, so my method seems to work for me most of the time. In YSI, it failed me miserably. Yesterday, I got no strong gut feelings or impressions from anyone and voted for who I thought was scummiest at the time.
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Jun 3, 2008 19:08:11 GMT -5
Post by tdpatriots12 on Jun 3, 2008 19:08:11 GMT -5
I'm not thinking this is enough for a vote at this time but that and my gut are more than enough form me to point a big FOS at tdpatriots12.It was a direct response to one of storyteller's issues with me, and I answered it exactly the way I would if anyone had the same issue with someone else. By pointing out that if I'm doing what he suggested, it would imply a significant change in my playstyle. I then presented another situation where more aggressive play would also make sense. Yet, I suppose in effect it was a "steaming cup of WIFOM" (I forgot who said that earlier but I liked it) because only I really know what I learned from my experience in Batman. Following assumptions to conclusions, and then using those conclusions to redefine those assumptions is simply how I figure stuff out. If it results in the occasional WIFOMy statement, that's something I'm prepared to deal with, because the alternative means leaving my comfort zone, and it's just not worth it.
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Jun 3, 2008 19:09:31 GMT -5
Post by tdpatriots12 on Jun 3, 2008 19:09:31 GMT -5
People who have posted fewer than 3 times toDay. Kidvermicious That bastard, who does he think he is!?
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Jun 3, 2008 19:10:57 GMT -5
Post by bufftabby on Jun 3, 2008 19:10:57 GMT -5
I'm frustrated. I'm frustrated becasue the only people I am genuinly suspicious of are ALL THE PEOPLE THAT ARE ACTUALLY TALKING! I don't get it, but yesterDay was the same way for the most part. I talk a big game about looking back at people's actions and mining for information, but right now there isn't any freakin information because so many people aren't talking. That isn't fair, their is some good analysis going on in regards to the buffabby wagon vs hockeyguy lynch. And I am trying to keep up, but frankley that is just not the kind of shit I have ever been good at. Not at this level of information, not when the Night resulted in a nearly 0 net information gain. With this level of information I need people to actually talk. Is that selfish? Maybe. But it's helpfull to the town too. If toDay keeps going like this, the Day is going to see all it's activity in the last 24 hours and we are going to take a shot in the dark at someone just like we did yesterDay. And yesterDay we got lucky. Let's take a look shall we? People who have posted fewer than 3 times toDay. Kat Darth Sensitive Ryjae Kidvermicious MHaye Smurf Czech Misterblockey Rebel tragic BlaMThe people in bold and italics haven't posted at all. I am frustrated. Sorry for the rant, but I don't know what to do. The people who aren't talking are hurting the town, because, right now, as a town, what we NEED is infromation; and right now 11 out of the 23 living players are not participating enough to give us that information. 11 out of 23 players! Some of you have legit excuses I am sure. That isn't my point. My point is we are only playing with half a deck right now. This is going to go on forever if I don't stop myself. Sorry. Holy fuck! I know I'm not the most prolific of posters, but this is goddamn unacceptable. I hope we aren't losing interest in Mafia itself. That would suck. What would I do at work? Bufftabby, to address your concern with my vote and reasoning yesterday, that is just how I play the game. I don't sit down and pour over posts and analyze votes (I used to when I first started). Now, I read and form general impressions of people - gut feelings if you will. I look for inconsistencies and wierd wording. In the Batman game, I was an investigator/vig, and picked scum 3 for 3 nights, so my method seems to work for me most of the time. In YSI, it failed me miserably. Yesterday, I got no strong gut feelings or impressions from anyone and voted for who I thought was scummiest at the time. 1. We are making it easy for scum to hide among the lurkers. Granted, I don't think that all of the scum are there, but some certainly are. Anyone who's not talking is enabling these scum. 2. Hockey Monkey, so you are saying that your list of 3 suspects (FCOD, me, and hockeyguy) was based soley on your gut? If that's the case, I'm curious why you didn't mention that, or any reason, at the time. I tend to be suspicious of votes/FoS unaccompanied by any explanation whatsoever.
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Jun 3, 2008 19:15:58 GMT -5
Post by NAF1138 on Jun 3, 2008 19:15:58 GMT -5
People who have posted fewer than 3 times toDay. Kidvermicious That bastard, who does he think he is!? ha, I thought I took him off the list.
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Jun 3, 2008 19:47:29 GMT -5
Post by Greedy Smurf on Jun 3, 2008 19:47:29 GMT -5
That's some good, and very indepth, analysis we've got happening now. Handy and useful to read through. Just a note as to my vote on Bufftabby on Day 1. At it's basis, yes it was effectively a me too vote. As I said I didn't have any new revelations or additional evidence to weigh in with that hadn't already been covered by the earlier voters. The evidence already presented being enough in my eyes for a vote. As to why I didn't unvote when Buff claimed Mason, simple reason I wasn't around to do so . There are couple of downsides to playing a US-based mafia game while living in Australia. With the absence of a counterclaim, I believe Buff's claim of being a mason, so won't be repeating my vote toDay. I will be taking some time to give a thorough read over Roosh's voting patterns info before I jump back in with my thoughts.
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Day Two
Jun 3, 2008 20:03:15 GMT -5
Post by Rebel on Jun 3, 2008 20:03:15 GMT -5
Sorry everyone. I’m honestly trying to keep up to the best of my ability. I started my new job yesterday and it’s already left me exhausted. (5 am is when I’m used to going to bed... not getting up!) If I can’t keep on top of the game I’m going to ask to get subbed out. It’s not fair to everyone else because it’s no fun having people that don’t say anything. I hope to stay though because I want to play and it’s already a lot of fun. Anyways game thoughts: From Day 2’s events I think that Kat! comes out of it looking very much like a citizen (as almost everyone has said). I really am inclined to think that Stardragonman is a citizen as well. Perhaps I’m underestimating SDM but for a person who’s never played mafia before, if you were scum I don’t know why you’d vote for a fellow mafia member day 1 especially if it happens to be a scum player with some kind of role or special ability. (If hockeyguy indeed had some role or godfather like ability). I’m not saying I’m going to write him off completely but I admit I do tend to think he is a citizen from it at the moment. Is anyone else confused on why Hal was killed? It certainly raises some questions on just exactly how two people were killed. Did mafia kill him to see if the possessed demon thing would spread onto a new survivor? First: six voters for bufftabby. I will provisionally guess that, given that the secondary target at this moment is the fricking Demon Lord, at least one demon is voting for buff. Now, since the following is based on that provisional guess, I'll start with: does anyone want to challenge that assertion? I'm open to discussion on the subject, and it is certainly possible that all six voters are pro-Town, but my feeling is that it's more likely than not that at least one is a Demon. I agree with this that I think there is a high chance that at least one demon was voting for buff. I think it’s interesting that tdpatslosttotheGiants and FCoD were both voting buff and joined late on the vote against Hockeyguy. At the moment they both are the two I’m most suspicious about. Quick question to Survivor Smurf: Who would you have voted for (if anyone) if you were able to get on after buff’s mason claim?
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Jun 3, 2008 20:10:45 GMT -5
Post by tdpatriots12 on Jun 3, 2008 20:10:45 GMT -5
SI think it’s interesting that tdpatslosttotheGiants and FCoD were both voting buff and joined late on the vote against Hockeyguy. At the moment they both are the two I’m most suspicious about. /it's a link
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Jun 3, 2008 20:11:23 GMT -5
Post by tdpatriots12 on Jun 3, 2008 20:11:23 GMT -5
MUCH less amusing than I expected.
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Day Two
Jun 3, 2008 20:14:58 GMT -5
Post by Hockey Monkey! on Jun 3, 2008 20:14:58 GMT -5
Holy fuck! I know I'm not the most prolific of posters, but this is goddamn unacceptable. I hope we aren't losing interest in Mafia itself. That would suck. What would I do at work? Bufftabby, to address your concern with my vote and reasoning yesterday, that is just how I play the game. I don't sit down and pour over posts and analyze votes (I used to when I first started). Now, I read and form general impressions of people - gut feelings if you will. I look for inconsistencies and wierd wording. In the Batman game, I was an investigator/vig, and picked scum 3 for 3 nights, so my method seems to work for me most of the time. In YSI, it failed me miserably. Yesterday, I got no strong gut feelings or impressions from anyone and voted for who I thought was scummiest at the time. 1. We are making it easy for scum to hide among the lurkers. Granted, I don't think that all of the scum are there, but some certainly are. Anyone who's not talking is enabling these scum. 2. Hockey Monkey, so you are saying that your list of 3 suspects (FCOD, me, and hockeyguy) was based soley on your gut? If that's the case, I'm curious why you didn't mention that, or any reason, at the time. I tend to be suspicious of votes/FoS unaccompanied by any explanation whatsoever. Soley, no. I wasn't voting or FOSing either.
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Jun 3, 2008 20:20:51 GMT -5
Post by tdpatriots12 on Jun 3, 2008 20:20:51 GMT -5
Meh, I guess I better elaborate again. Point I'm trying to make is that if you're going to raise suspicions all over again, it would be nice to address standing issues regarding them, such as:
* If FCOD is scum, was putting hockeyguy up +4 a justifiable risk? * You say I voted early, but like I illustrated, my vote on bufftabby occured before Kat! made her hockeyguy post. How do you reconcile this of your theory of tdpatriots12 as scum? * Do you dispute my reasoning for my vote on hockeyguy?
I could have responded with far less frustration and sarcasm if any of these things were addressed. Otherwise it just strikes me as lazy "Eh, yeah, all that stuff going on sounds good" kind of analysis that doesn't help anyone.
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Jun 3, 2008 20:21:31 GMT -5
Post by KidVermicious on Jun 3, 2008 20:21:31 GMT -5
People who have posted fewer than 3 times toDay. Kidvermicious That bastard, who does he think he is!? Slacker. String him up.
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Jun 3, 2008 20:21:34 GMT -5
Post by Czech on Jun 3, 2008 20:21:34 GMT -5
Just checking in. Waiting at O'Hare for a flight, paying $7 for wireless. I've caught up as much as I can with the amount of battery I have left on the laptop. I'll post my thoughts to everything that's happened this weekend tomorrow afternoon. Intriguing stuff, for sure...
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Jun 3, 2008 22:21:56 GMT -5
Post by Greedy Smurf on Jun 3, 2008 22:21:56 GMT -5
Quick question to Survivor Smurf: Who would you have voted for (if anyone) if you were able to get on after buff’s mason claim? I don't really know. It would be easy to say Hockeyguy of course. ;D But I don't think I would have switched to him. At the time I was last on during Day 1, I was far from convinced by the case against him, and having caught up, I still think the "tells" were more new player, rather than scum. At the time I recall thinking Blocky was looking a bit odd, so I may well have switched to Blocky.
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Jun 3, 2008 22:42:55 GMT -5
Post by storyteller0910 on Jun 3, 2008 22:42:55 GMT -5
Observations, Timepoint #1 to Timepoint #2 (Please see my lengthy post on the previous page for details of this analysis)
On the whole, based solely on the events of this period, Kat, ryjae, and hawkeyeop, look a bit more Townie.
I am interested in the fact that there was a budding little bandwagon for Czech that lost steam when the bufftabby wagon got rolling. That bandwagon, as of timepoint #2, consisted of Roosh and misterblockey; the former has drawn my suspicion for a strange FoS of a player for whom he had already voted.
stardragonman has given me no particular reason to suspect him or to not suspect him, based on close reading of this block of time. Neither has tdpatriots12 or FCoD.
Darth Sensitive, Nanook, and NAF basically stayed out of it, at least until timepoint #2.
So that's where we stand. Next up, analysis of Timepoint #3.
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Jun 3, 2008 22:55:45 GMT -5
Post by storyteller0910 on Jun 3, 2008 22:55:45 GMT -5
OK, here's the next subject for examination (incidentally, I am reading the contributions of others; it's just if I get distracted from this, I'll never finish it, and I genuinely think it might be useful. When I'm done, I'll respond to what's happened since I started this).
I am skipping Roosh's Timepoint #3, because no vote count is provided. I'll consider the block between timepoints #2 and #4 as one period. If the first period, analyzed above, was the rise and fall of the bufftabby wagon, this second period was the emergence of the hockeyguy and competing wagons. (The third period was the final Passion of Hockeyguy, but more on that much later).
So, as of #381, the vote count is as follows:
hockeyguy8435 (8): stardragonman, Kat, hawkeyeop, ryjae, misterblockey, Roosh, bufftabby, Rebel bufftabby (5): tdpatriots12, Survivor Smurf, Hal Briston, FlyingCowofDoom, Tragic misterblockey (2): NAF1138, Nanook Tragic (2): KidVermicious, hockeymonkey Stardragonman (1): Darth Sensitive FlyingCowofDoom (1): Rysto Not Voting: (7)
As a reminder, the timepoint #2 vote count was as follows:
Bufftabby 6 : storyteller, TDpatssuck, GreedySmurf, Hal Briston, KidVermicious, FCoD Hockeyguy 4 : stardragonman, Kat, HawkeyeOp, Ryjae Stardragonman 2 : Darth, hockeyguy FCOD 2 : Bufftabby, Rysto MrBlocky 2 : NAF, Nanook Czech 2 : Roosh, MrBlocky
So in less than 40 posts, the following (significant) things happened:
1) The hockeyguy wagon swelled to the point where it was almost, but not quite, unstoppable 2) The bufftabby wagon shrunk, but only a bit 3) Misterblocky voters didn't move an inch 4) The Czech wagon vanished, replaced by an equivalent-sized one on Tragic
In 40 posts, we've gone from bufftabby in big trouble to hockeyguy on the verge of a lynching. Without studying the posts involved, I'd initially hypothesize that at least one scum got on the hockeyguy wagon during this period (so looking at Roosh, bufftabby, misterblocky, and Rebel). I'd also hypothesize that the Tragic bandwagon might have been an abortive attempt at creating an alternative bandwagon to hockeyguy.
Tomorrow, I'll look at the evidence and see how it fits these hypotheses.
Is any of this helpful?
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Jun 3, 2008 22:57:08 GMT -5
Post by NAF1138 on Jun 3, 2008 22:57:08 GMT -5
Yes, I don't know what to do with it yet. But yes.
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Post by RoOsh on Jun 4, 2008 1:33:32 GMT -5
Sorry, I've not been able to contribute much today, I just had some real life issues pop up. But on the other hand, I now know how to fully install a faucet and wire it up to the correct pipes. I also know that an uncleaned sink drawer is a dirty dirty place to spend ones evenings.... I do want to mention that at #285, Roosh gives an FoS to Czech despite having his vote already on him. That’s weird, to me. It may mean nothing, but it draws my eye to Roosh. Moving on. I can explain that one- I use my FoS's for my own sake rather than others. The color there is always to catch my eye when I read through my posts and to see where i found someone suspicious with someone. So yeah, Post 285 for me is me re-affirming my suspicions on Czech at that time. Namely to say his immediate backing down from his own vote after receiving 2 votes. It caught my eye. ~Anyways back to catch up on the thread~
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Post by RoOsh on Jun 4, 2008 1:52:52 GMT -5
Observations, Timepoint #1 to Timepoint #2(Please see my lengthy post on the previous page for details of this analysis) On the whole, based solely on the events of this period, Kat, ryjae, and hawkeyeop, look a bit more Townie. I am interested in the fact that there was a budding little bandwagon for Czech that lost steam when the bufftabby wagon got rolling. That bandwagon, as of timepoint #2, consisted of Roosh and misterblockey; the former has drawn my suspicion for a strange FoS of a player for whom he had already voted. stardragonman has given me no particular reason to suspect him or to not suspect him, based on close reading of this block of time. Neither has tdpatriots12 or FCoD. Wow, all of these are similar sentiments from my massive post a while back. (as I agree with you about the Czech wagon being curious, though I'm still wanting to hear more from him; I agree with you on the SDM; and on the Kat->Ryjae series of voters; though I guess I should say, you agree with ME more so, due to me saying these things first. Heh). Currently, I'm kinda dishearten by the whole Story vs. Tdpats issue right now, as that's been the major brunt of the discussion- various people attack Td, and then him defending it, and no real other discussion- I was hoping to see more from BlaM and NAF, but as today in real life has shown me, Real life has a funny way of finding you at inopportune times. Though, I still REALLY want to hear back from Tragic on her explanation of her Post-Mason Vote. Also, I'd like to hear more from Mr.Blocky- you seemed a lot more vociferous on Day 1, but now suddenly you've really quieted down. What are your thoughts on the Day so far? Because right now it just feels like we're all waiting for Tdpats to crack. And i'm equally just as Paranoid about you Storyteller. But right now this day feels all Anti-Tdpats, and not much else. Perhaps its just from him being the most prolific poster toDay- he certainly has been quite vocal in his defense. And where are your thoughts SDM? I noticed you weren't' on NAF's list, but you haven't SAID anything really today! To me it feels like you're blatantly lurking- just posting your minimal 4 posts to survive, and then offering nothing else. Which really irks me. But it's not "scummy"; it's just anti-Town and just unhelpful.
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Jun 4, 2008 10:11:56 GMT -5
Post by bufftabby on Jun 4, 2008 10:11:56 GMT -5
1. We are making it easy for scum to hide among the lurkers. Granted, I don't think that all of the scum are there, but some certainly are. Anyone who's not talking is enabling these scum. 2. Hockey Monkey, so you are saying that your list of 3 suspects (FCOD, me, and hockeyguy) was based soley on your gut? If that's the case, I'm curious why you didn't mention that, or any reason, at the time. I tend to be suspicious of votes/FoS unaccompanied by any explanation whatsoever. Soley, no. I wasn't voting or FOSing either. Maybe you weren't officially FoSing, but I don't know how else to take a post where you list three people and say that you'll be voting for one of them. That sounds like you're casting some suspicion, whether you add the FoS tag or not. At this point, it looks like you pretty much don't intend to answer my question about what your motivation was for choosing me, FCoD, and hockeyguy as your pool to vote from. You seem to have side-stepped the question quite nicely.
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Jun 4, 2008 10:14:14 GMT -5
Post by bufftabby on Jun 4, 2008 10:14:14 GMT -5
1. We are making it easy for scum to hide among the lurkers. Granted, I don't think that all of the scum are there, but some certainly are. Anyone who's not talking is enabling these scum. 2. Hockey Monkey, so you are saying that your list of 3 suspects (FCOD, me, and hockeyguy) was based soley on your gut? If that's the case, I'm curious why you didn't mention that, or any reason, at the time. I tend to be suspicious of votes/FoS unaccompanied by any explanation whatsoever. Soley, no. I wasn't voting or FOSing either. Maybe you weren't officially FoSing, but I don't know how else to take a post where you list three people and say that you'll be voting for one of them. That sounds like you're casting some suspicion, whether you add the FoS tag or not. At this point, it looks like you pretty much don't intend to answer my question about what your motivation was for choosing me, FCoD, and hockeyguy as your pool to vote from. You seem to have side-stepped the question quite nicely.
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Jun 4, 2008 10:18:36 GMT -5
Post by bufftabby on Jun 4, 2008 10:18:36 GMT -5
Damn hamsters and their timeout messages.
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Day Two
Jun 4, 2008 10:42:17 GMT -5
Post by stardragonman on Jun 4, 2008 10:42:17 GMT -5
Roosh, I am not posting my thoughts because:
1. I feel I have nothing of substance to offer. Sure, I can post a whole page worth of random musings and BS, so I could look intellectual and give the impression that I'm not a scum and really care, or I could a small tidbit here and there which can contain something interesting.
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2. I cannot vote this round due to our Nazi-like host. But if I would vote, no offense, but I would probably vote you Roosh simply because that long post really made me think that you're just trying to cleverly disguise your intentions.
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Jun 4, 2008 11:36:34 GMT -5
Post by RoOsh on Jun 4, 2008 11:36:34 GMT -5
1. I feel I have nothing of substance to offer. Sure, I can post a whole page worth of random musings and BS, so I could look intellectual and give the impression that I'm not a scum and really care, or I could a small tidbit here and there which can contain something interesting. Erm.... Nice Tidbit there.
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Jun 4, 2008 11:44:14 GMT -5
Post by NAF1138 on Jun 4, 2008 11:44:14 GMT -5
Roosh, I am not posting my thoughts because: 1. I feel I have nothing of substance to offer. Sure, I can post a whole page worth of random musings and BS, so I could look intellectual and give the impression that I'm not a scum and really care, or I could a small tidbit here and there which can contain something interesting. I gotta say, this kinda bugs me. Everyone has something to contribute. I feel completely adrift in this game, but at least I am posting. This feels like an excuse for lurking. I don't like it.
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