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Post by The Real FCOD on Jun 9, 2008 12:12:05 GMT -5
This doesn't make me feel any better about you. --FCOD Actually, I'm not going leave it at that. It is customary, in this game, to actually give reasons for one's suspicions and doubts. Would you care to share those? Or are you just tossing smudges into the wind and hoping they get picked up by someone who can supply your reasons for you? I missed this while I was composing my last post. I think I've been entirely clear on the subject. You can read about it in this post: I don't trust storyteller. In fact, I'm going to Vote storyteller He wants us to believe that zombies are good for the town? What? I am convinced he is leading us on. Here's the thing: Getting the town to believe that zombies are a good thing is just the stuff that storyteller is good at. He is extremely good at getting people to trust him. I suspect he carefully planned his "coming out" post yesterDay as a way of convincing the town that he is on our side, when he's actually PFK. He was worried that we'd find out he had this ability through some investigation (he said so himself), and decided to put it out in the open ahead of time to gain credibility. I think he hoped the town would think he's being straight-forward, because why would he have spilled the beans without being provoked if he wasn't pro-town? I say he took a gamble to counteract the risk of being investigated. I mean, if a cop found out that his role was "Necromancer" what do you think the cop would assume? I know I'd assume SCUM. I think what Smurf said is extremely likely: storyteller will win when the number of zombies exceeds the number of townies. And I don't like it. I am going to go search for other scum tells in storyteller's posts, but I doubt I will find any. He's too good at this game. --FCOD
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Post by storyteller0910 on Jun 9, 2008 12:15:35 GMT -5
There's nothing you can say to convince me that you're pro-town as long as there is a reasonable explanation that could go either way. I don't expect you to believe that I am pro-Town. But I expect there to be some reason why you consider me to be any more likely to be anti-Town than any other player. The entire argument against me is entirely based on the color of the role, and not on any actual reasoning about my behavior. Which, if you're Town, is lazy and dangerous. And if you're not, well, it's right along the lines of what I'd expect.
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Post by RoOsh on Jun 9, 2008 12:16:24 GMT -5
Obviously, Roosh confused things a lot (what else is new) by claiming they might be lovers. It's possible that this confusion swayed the lynch onto our newest zombie. I am still suspicious of tdpatriots, but I'd like to hear more from Roosh about what he can do. --FCOD I don't know what else to tell you other than those 6 statements! Right now the possibilities are such: 1. Tdpatriots could be my lover 2. I could be paranoid. 3. I could be a Milkman. ~~~> Of Those, One is 100% True. One is 100% FALSE, and One is "WIFOM" (what that means, I don't know- maybe that it could go either way?) Then I also know: 1. Today I need to deliver Milk or else bad things for me. 2. You May not win if the Demons outnumber the Survivors. 3. You Might be a Crazy Townie. ~~~~ Again of those- 1 is a Lie, 1 is the truth, and 1 is WIFOM. ( All paraphrased by me of course) I have been able to submit a Night Choice at Nights. I checked out Tdpatriots N1, and the Storyteller N2. Both times nothing came up for me via PM (Though I did get that tdpats was my lover the next Day), and they say they did not recieve anything. With that... I'm ruling out that I'm probably a cop or a RoleBlocker (as I believe Story was able to do his Night Action of Zombie Making, Right Story?) Doctor could still be on the table, as they're not dead yet... I also FULLY wish to be Investigated toNight. I throw myself at the Mercy of the investigators/cops/searchers/whatever- Just find out what I am, and I have to just hope that based on N2clue#2 that I'm NOT a demon. But I'm not sure what else you want to know FCoD. I'd be happy to help- but I'm not sure how.
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Post by storyteller0910 on Jun 9, 2008 12:17:29 GMT -5
Could I ask you (even though i know you could lie)- are you ProTown or PFK? I am Pro-Town. My alignment and win condition are word for word the same as those in the Vanilla PM that atarus has posted. I'm going to wait on answering that a bit. I have no idea what the hell it signifies, so you'll understand my reluctance.
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Post by RoOsh on Jun 9, 2008 12:18:11 GMT -5
FCoD- Can I interest YOU in a nice Cold Refreshing Bottle of Milk?
A Fine Virile Manly Cow such as yourself is unable to produce such fine milk, so perhaps I can deliver you a bottle?
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Post by RoOsh on Jun 9, 2008 12:21:25 GMT -5
I am Pro-Town. My alignment and win condition are word for word the same as those in the Vanilla PM that atarus has posted. One last question... Do you have a "Generic Mafia Role" name as "Necromancer" or does it differ from your role name (and your ROLE is called Necromancer)?
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Post by storyteller0910 on Jun 9, 2008 12:24:07 GMT -5
I am Pro-Town. My alignment and win condition are word for word the same as those in the Vanilla PM that atarus has posted. One last question... Do you have a "Generic Mafia Role" name as "Necromancer" or does it differ from your role name (and your ROLE is called Necromancer)? I do have a "Generic Mafia Role Name," and it is this: "Congratulations, you're unique!"
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Post by The Real FCOD on Jun 9, 2008 12:26:22 GMT -5
storyteller -- I don't have any factual evidence on which to base my opinion that you are not pro-town. Note that I am not saying anti-town, because if you are PFK you could go either way. I regret voting for you initially; it was a knee-jerk reaction and I have since revised my position. My entire point is not that you should be lynched, but that you should be placed under careful scrutiny. If you are who you say you are then, great! If you are not who you say you are and we just believe you, we (the town) could be in for some trouble. It seems to me that you're upset that I don't believe you, yet you cannot prove that you are not anti-town. I am not lazy or dangerous, I am being cautious because I know how capable you are at swaying people.
Roosh -- I guess I'm not really sure what else I want from you. I recognize that you are trying to be helpful about your role, but you don't have anything else to say. I'm not really comfortable lynching you toDay either. Fuck it, I'll take some milk.
We didn't learn all that much from the deaths since ryjae already claimed. So, I'm back to my target from yesterDay...Vote tdpatriots. Nothing really has changed since yesterDay, although I am going to go examine the posts of the deceased, and also Czech, since two Days of non-voting is extremely suspicious.
--FCOD
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Post by Hawkmod on Jun 9, 2008 12:32:26 GMT -5
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Why didn't you ask for protection night one?
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Post by RoOsh on Jun 9, 2008 12:34:05 GMT -5
Fuck it, I'll take some milk. --FCOD Good Choice, my Man! Roosh delivers Milk to FlyingCowofDoom.
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Post by RoOsh on Jun 9, 2008 12:35:15 GMT -5
HawkeyeOps: Can I offer you a refreshing Bottle of Ice Cold Milk?
It keeps the eyes strong you know? And it keeps away annoying nicknames!
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Post by RoOsh on Jun 9, 2008 12:36:57 GMT -5
I do have a "Generic Mafia Role Name," and it is this: "Congratulations, you're unique!" I have no room to talk. So i guess I can't really be worried about that. Though I wonder if anyone else is unique... and if you're a Necromancer, why not just have THAT as your Generic Mafia Role? It IS basically the same thing- so maybe you do have those extra powers.... WIFOM, i suppose.
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Post by The Real FCOD on Jun 9, 2008 12:37:16 GMT -5
Good Choice, my Man! Roosh delivers Milk to FlyingCowofDoom.AGGGGHHHH MY THROAT!!!!! IT BURNSSSS!!!!! AGH I'M BLIND!!!!!!!!! NOOOOOOOOOoooooo lol jk --FCOD
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Post by Hawkmod on Jun 9, 2008 14:32:19 GMT -5
HawkeyeOps: Can I offer you a refreshing Bottle of Ice Cold Milk? It keeps the eyes strong you know? And it keeps away annoying nicknames! Sorry, it is against my religion to mix milk with demons.
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Post by The Real FCOD on Jun 9, 2008 14:36:22 GMT -5
Well I can say that receiving milk has had absolutely no affect on me so far. If there is an actual game mechanic involved with Roosh ridiculous deliveries I am not aware of it. I get the feeling that atarus is having a pretty good laugh about it right now.
Rest assured that I will be the first to disclose anything that happens to me as a result of the milk delivery.
--FCOD
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Post by Rebel on Jun 9, 2008 16:14:42 GMT -5
Sweet one goodbye post. Sorry I wasn't much of a help guys. Thanks though atarus for inviting me to play. It was fun I just wish I had more time to put into it. Either way good luck survivors!!
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Post by Kison on Jun 9, 2008 16:41:34 GMT -5
Word up ma homies.
Why are people voting R0o0o0o0o0o0sh?
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Post by Hal Briston on Jun 9, 2008 16:53:14 GMT -5
Oh yeah...I forgot my goodbye post! Well then, let me just take a moment to say... BRAAAAAAINS!!!!!Thank you.
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Post by bufftabby on Jun 9, 2008 17:16:21 GMT -5
Zombies and milkmen and necromancers, oh my! On a less serious note, this is all I can think of when it comes to RoOsh's milkman claim, and I can't help but think that might be very...uncomfortable for his potential lover. Realistically, I can't help but raise my eyebrows a bit at both RoOsh's and storyteller's claims, but at the moment, I think a bit of time and thought is needed to fully evaluate their claims, so I'm certainly not ready to vote for either one yet. Both claims do scream PFK to me, but I'm not ready to make that assumption just yet. As for my vote, I'm ready to place it right back on Hockey Monkey. I outlined my reasons previously, but a brief recap: I asked why she had considered me, FCOD, and Hockeyguy for voting. She responded by basically saying that she goes by her gut, and it's too bad if I don't like her playstyle. I asked her if that means that those votes were based solely on her gut feeling then, and she replied by saying, No, not solely. Since then, I've asked several times what her reasoning was then, since she says it wasn't based solely on her gut. She's responded 2 or 3 times, acting pissy as hell that I'm questioning her on the subject, and claiming that she's already answered my question. She has since decided to stop responding to me, even when I ask her to point out where she answered my question about her motivations. The only motivation she's provided is that she goes by her gut, but not solely in this particular instance. I'll be happy to post the whole exchange in a day or two when I've got full net access, not just through my blackberry, but of course the posts are there for anyone who would like to compare my version of events with reality, and see that they are the same. Hockey Monkey has steadfastly refused to answer my question, all while insisting that she's already done so, but refusing to point out where she has done so. This seems quite scummy to me, and so this is where my vote goes. vote Hockey Monkey[/b]
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Post by RoOsh on Jun 9, 2008 17:19:02 GMT -5
Ah Buffytabby! Can I interest you in a nice Ice Cold Bottle of Milk?
No Pee included!
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Post by bufftabby on Jun 9, 2008 17:28:45 GMT -5
If you checked out my link, RoOsh, you'll see why I feel a bit reluctant to accept any dairy beverages. Maybe later.
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Post by Pollux Oil on Jun 9, 2008 17:31:07 GMT -5
Vote CountRoosh (2): Darth Sensitive, hockeymonkey tdpatriots (2): Nanook, FlyingCowofDoom Nanook (1): Rysto hockeymonkey (1): bufftabby
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Post by RoOsh on Jun 9, 2008 17:41:18 GMT -5
If you checked out my link, RoOsh, you'll see why I feel a bit reluctant to accept any dairy beverages. Maybe later. Of the 3 "milkman" conspiracy theories out there this is the SILLIEST one. (I just read the lyrics, didn't hear the song)
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Post by Hockey Monkey! on Jun 9, 2008 19:06:18 GMT -5
Zombies and milkmen and necromancers, oh my! On a less serious note, this is all I can think of when it comes to RoOsh's milkman claim, and I can't help but think that might be very...uncomfortable for his potential lover. Realistically, I can't help but raise my eyebrows a bit at both RoOsh's and storyteller's claims, but at the moment, I think a bit of time and thought is needed to fully evaluate their claims, so I'm certainly not ready to vote for either one yet. Both claims do scream PFK to me, but I'm not ready to make that assumption just yet. As for my vote, I'm ready to place it right back on Hockey Monkey. I outlined my reasons previously, but a brief recap: I asked why she had considered me, FCOD, and Hockeyguy for voting. She responded by basically saying that she goes by her gut, and it's too bad if I don't like her playstyle. I asked her if that means that those votes were based solely on her gut feeling then, and she replied by saying, No, not solely. Since then, I've asked several times what her reasoning was then, since she says it wasn't based solely on her gut. She's responded 2 or 3 times, acting pissy as hell that I'm questioning her on the subject, and claiming that she's already answered my question. She has since decided to stop responding to me, even when I ask her to point out where she answered my question about her motivations. The only motivation she's provided is that she goes by her gut, but not solely in this particular instance. I'll be happy to post the whole exchange in a day or two when I've got full net access, not just through my blackberry, but of course the posts are there for anyone who would like to compare my version of events with reality, and see that they are the same. Hockey Monkey has steadfastly refused to answer my question, all while insisting that she's already done so, but refusing to point out where she has done so. This seems quite scummy to me, and so this is where my vote goes. vote Hockey Monkey[/b][/quote] Buff, I'm sorry if you felt I was being pissy with you. Not my intention at all. I see now that your issue is with the word solely. That was pretty much tounge in cheek, and I think I even included a to go with it. At that point in time, (and good lord, it was way back on day one!) I put my suspicions out there based mostly on my gut feelings. 98% gut feeling, 1% analysis from my brain, 1% analysis from other people's brains. I don't like absolutes, and I didn't want to say I 100% based my suspicions on my gut, but it was mostly that. So yeah, I thought I had answered your question (you can't divine my intent from my thoughts)...I see now that I didn't. There are bigger issues at hand today. I've had this window open trying to respond for at least an hour now, and have been interrupted by work the whole time. I'm about to leave and go home for the day. I'm sure more posts have been made in the meantime, and I'll read them when I get home.
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Post by RoOsh on Jun 9, 2008 19:28:30 GMT -5
Where Is tdpatriots btw? He's usually always online, and I've not seen him yet actually, which is surprising, since he's one of the leading vote contenders- along with me.
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Post by bufftabby on Jun 9, 2008 20:14:21 GMT -5
Zombies and milkmen and necromancers, oh my! On a less serious note, this is all I can think of when it comes to RoOsh's milkman claim, and I can't help but think that might be very...uncomfortable for his potential lover. Realistically, I can't help but raise my eyebrows a bit at both RoOsh's and storyteller's claims, but at the moment, I think a bit of time and thought is needed to fully evaluate their claims, so I'm certainly not ready to vote for either one yet. Both claims do scream PFK to me, but I'm not ready to make that assumption just yet. As for my vote, I'm ready to place it right back on Hockey Monkey. I outlined my reasons previously, but a brief recap: I asked why she had considered me, FCOD, and Hockeyguy for voting. She responded by basically saying that she goes by her gut, and it's too bad if I don't like her playstyle. I asked her if that means that those votes were based solely on her gut feeling then, and she replied by saying, No, not solely. Since then, I've asked several times what her reasoning was then, since she says it wasn't based solely on her gut. She's responded 2 or 3 times, acting pissy as hell that I'm questioning her on the subject, and claiming that she's already answered my question. She has since decided to stop responding to me, even when I ask her to point out where she answered my question about her motivations. The only motivation she's provided is that she goes by her gut, but not solely in this particular instance. I'll be happy to post the whole exchange in a day or two when I've got full net access, not just through my blackberry, but of course the posts are there for anyone who would like to compare my version of events with reality, and see that they are the same. Hockey Monkey has steadfastly refused to answer my question, all while insisting that she's already done so, but refusing to point out where she has done so. This seems quite scummy to me, and so this is where my vote goes. vote Hockey Monkey Buff, I'm sorry if you felt I was being pissy with you. Not my intention at all. I see now that your issue is with the word solely. That was pretty much tounge in cheek, and I think I even included a to go with it. At that point in time, (and good lord, it was way back on day one!) I put my suspicions out there based mostly on my gut feelings. 98% gut feeling, 1% analysis from my brain, 1% analysis from other people's brains. I don't like absolutes, and I didn't want to say I 100% based my suspicions on my gut, but it was mostly that. So yeah, I thought I had answered your question (you can't divine my intent from my thoughts)...I see now that I didn't. There are bigger issues at hand today. I've had this window open trying to respond for at least an hour now, and have been interrupted by work the whole time. I'm about to leave and go home for the day. I'm sure more posts have been made in the meantime, and I'll read them when I get home. I'm not sure why you didn't explain this before. I thought I made it pretty clear that I'd grokked the bit on the gut, and where my remaining questions were coming from. I'm still feeling like you might have been engaging in some scummy avoidance behavior, but I'm now done questioning you on the subject, at least.
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Post by Darth Sensitive on Jun 9, 2008 20:41:04 GMT -5
I am currently temporarily assuaged by the explanations coming from Roosh. I may not like it, but as of now, I'm going to assume that he is telling the truth.
Want more reason to trust the Necromancer. I'm lacking in reason to trust zombies - I too assume that being greater to or equal to townies would be a victory for story. But there may be protown things the zombies can do. I don't know
Exorcism is what I might guess that Roosh has as a power. I would suggest that tonight he targets someone that he thinks could possibly be possessed, as nobody else has done so at this point.
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Post by Hawkmod on Jun 9, 2008 20:58:03 GMT -5
Exorcism is what I might guess that Roosh has as a power. I would suggest that tonight he targets someone that he thinks could possibly be possessed, as nobody else has done so at this point. So you?
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Post by Darth Sensitive on Jun 9, 2008 21:11:16 GMT -5
I am vanilla town.
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Post by Holy Moley! on Jun 9, 2008 21:13:06 GMT -5
I'm lactose-intolerant. (There endeth my contribution to this day's strategy... nah, I'll think of something. )
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